IBS

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In a message dated 8/2/99 2:25:55 PM, lschroe3@... writes:

<<

I have also noticed several other PA sufferers commenting on

having thyroid problems and just wondering if this also goes

hand-in-hand with the PA?

>>

I too have been diagnosed recently with PA but now, along with PA, I have

been diagnosed with hypothroidism! Should I be on Methotrexate to stop the

joint destruction?

Diane

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When I finally went to the doctor about the unbearable pain I was in, he not

only diagnosed the PA but also found that my thyroid was dead....kaput. I am

now on daily Synthroid.

Annette

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Yep!...my hypothyroidism was diagnosed the same day as the PA.

Annette

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In a message dated 8/2/99 4:48:11 AM Central Daylight Time,

onelist writes:

> Have any of you have digestive type problems with PA? I have

> been diagnosed as having IRB. It can make life difficult when I

> eat out. And it is painful too. The Lo card diet has also

> helped with this problem. Does this go along with PA?

Lee Ann,

I started having IBS symptoms about six months ago....bloating, alternating

constipation and diarrhea. I am using Metamucil for it at my doctor's

suggestion and it helps quite a bit. You can also get " colon cleanse "

products in health food stores that have psyllium in them that also help.

Dwanna

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Hi Dwanna,

Do you have reactions to certain foods? There are many things

that will sent me straight to the bathroom within 15 minutes

after I eat. I have to be very careful when I go out to eat

because I may end up spending a long time in the bathroom! The

Dr. has never suggested Metamucil to me. Since I do have food

allergies I am not sure if the Metamucil would do the job. I

will have to ask the Doc. and see what he thinks.

Lee Ann Walter

Wife of Steve;

Mom to: 15; Krystle 14;

Caleb 2; 2; 10 mo.

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I, too, have hypothyroidism. Mine works some, but not all, and I'm on daily

levoxyl (generic). That was diagnosed back in 87, but I had since at least

84. The doctor noticed my enlarged thyroid in the autumn of 84 and merely

asked, gee do you eat a lot of seafood? No tests, nothing. Jerk. My hips

give my problems too, Lee Ann. Everything for me started in my left hip

about 4 or 5 years ago. The fatigue is the biggest thing to go with my

supplements. I've been able to get up easily without a lot of stiffness.

Yesterday I had a million things to do during the baby's nap and I was

trying to hurry through them so I could go lie down too. The minute I was

ready I heard her awake and crying on the monitor. I almost panicked , until

I realized I wasn't bone-weary like usual; I had a reserve of energy I

hadn't even noticed. It surprised the heck out of me, but it's what happened

before, too, with these. I stayed up with her until she went down for the

night at 8:30 pm. Then I went down too :-).

btw, I get those anxiety attacks too! Ever since high school. My doctor

then said it was psychosomatic (sp). I had had the psoriasis at that point

for about 5 or 6 years but no sign of arthritis. Mine manifest as an

inability to breath. I just can't get enough air and I feel like I'm

suffocating. I've figured out ways to deal with it--specifically making

lists of the things I'm worried and anxious about. When I see it on paper,

then I can dismiss the ones that I have no control over, and make concrete

decisions about the rest. As I weed through them all, my panic subsides.)

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It was not atropine I took for ibs, it was tincture of Belladonna.

J

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>Subject: Re: [ ]antidepressants

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>Kathy, I take 40mg of prozac a day. have to take it to survive my severe

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>>Dear :

>>

>>What antideppressant are you on? Some of them can cause stress on the

>>liver.

>> Most drugs metabolize through the liver. Since so many people in the

>>group

>>have mentioned being on antidepressants, it makes me wonder if there is

>>connection, too.

>>

>>Kathy (AIH)

>>Seattle area

>>

>>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

When one of my cats had inflammatory bowel disease I gave him the herbs

marshmallow and plantain. The blood in his stool stopped immediately. I

don't know if inflammatory bowel is the same as irritable bowel, but the

herbs might still help if there is a difference. They won't cure it by

themselves, so I'm not saying this is the only thing you should do, but

they'll help, especially with the discomfort.

Hope this helps,

Odette wrote:

>

>

> Hi all,

>

> I was wondering whether any of you lovley people on here are from the

> UK.

>

> I ask this mainly because I do and when I asked my doctor about Bowel

> cleansing and Parasite cleansing and she didn't know what I was

> talking about.

> So if any one is from the Uk, how do you go about cleansing?

>

> I have IBS, which I have had for the last 4 yrs and never been able

> to get anything to take the pain away.

>

> A friend from the US suggested that I might have parasites and to go

> and see my doctor. Which I have already explained she didn't know a

> thing.

>

> So if anyone can help out please give us a shout.

>

> many thanks

>

> Odette and Hubby Chris

>

> Subscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

>

[Guest guest]

> Hi all,

>

> I was wondering whether any of you lovley people on here are from the

> UK.

>

> I ask this mainly because I do and when I asked my doctor about Bowel

> cleansing and Parasite cleansing and she didn't know what I was

> talking about.

> So if any one is from the Uk, how do you go about cleansing?

>

> I have IBS, which I have had for the last 4 yrs and never been able

> to get anything to take the pain away.

>

> A friend from the US suggested that I might have parasites and to go

> and see my doctor. Which I have already explained she didn't know a

> thing.

>

> So if anyone can help out please give us a shout.

>

> many thanks

>

To Odette and Hubby Chris

I live in the England and to be honest wouldn't go near a normal medical

doctor with questions regarding bowelcleansing etc. We're SO behind over

here in the natural information department. They just seem to treat the

symptoms once we've messed up our bodies and can't offer any information on

how to restore the balance. I found this site last Sept and have learnt

an amazing amount. I was also diagnosed by my GP as having IBS abt 5 yrs

ago ..... I now believe they use this label for 'any old symptom' to do

with the bowel.

I did the Mastercleanse (the ol' water, lemon juice, maple syrup, cayenne

pepper drink) for 10 days last year, followed by anti candida diet which

really sorted me out for the better! Found it was my diet that caused the

IBS symptoms. I hope to do parasite/liver/gallbladder cleanses in the

future. If it wasn't for the internet and this list, I'd still be up half

the night.

Read as much as you can. There are numerous products available on-line so

availability isn't a problem.

All the best!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks for your mail.

I am really really interested in finding out more about cleansing.

I will have to have a look around for the herbs you said and

obviously ask the herbilist about them before I go and try it.

Thanks for the info.

Hugs

Odette

> >

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I was wondering whether any of you lovley people on here are from

the

> > UK.

> >

> > I ask this mainly because I do and when I asked my doctor about

Bowel

> > cleansing and Parasite cleansing and she didn't know what I was

> > talking about.

> > So if any one is from the Uk, how do you go about cleansing?

> >

> > I have IBS, which I have had for the last 4 yrs and never been

able

> > to get anything to take the pain away.

> >

> > A friend from the US suggested that I might have parasites and to

go

> > and see my doctor. Which I have already explained she didn't

know a

> > thing.

> >

> > So if anyone can help out please give us a shout.

> >

> > many thanks

> >

> > Odette and Hubby Chris

> >

> > Subscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks for the email.

Like i said to someone else that replied to me I am very interested

in finding out more about cleansing mainly because i am fed up of

being fobbed of by doctors.

I will look into the things that you mentioned and I will have to

give it a try soon.

Thanks again for your mail and all the info.

Hugs

Odette

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I was wondering whether any of you lovley people on here are from

the

> > UK.

> >

> > I ask this mainly because I do and when I asked my doctor about

Bowel

> > cleansing and Parasite cleansing and she didn't know what I was

> > talking about.

> > So if any one is from the Uk, how do you go about cleansing?

> >

> > I have IBS, which I have had for the last 4 yrs and never been

able

> > to get anything to take the pain away.

> >

> > A friend from the US suggested that I might have parasites and to

go

> > and see my doctor. Which I have already explained she didn't

know a

> > thing.

> >

> > So if anyone can help out please give us a shout.

> >

> > many thanks

> >

> To Odette and Hubby Chris

>

> I live in the England and to be honest wouldn't go near a normal

medical

> doctor with questions regarding bowelcleansing etc. We're SO

behind over

> here in the natural information department. They just seem to

treat the

> symptoms once we've messed up our bodies and can't offer any

information on

> how to restore the balance. I found this site last Sept and have

learnt

> an amazing amount. I was also diagnosed by my GP as having IBS

abt 5 yrs

> ago ..... I now believe they use this label for 'any old

symptom' to do

> with the bowel.

>

> I did the Mastercleanse (the ol' water, lemon juice, maple syrup,

cayenne

> pepper drink) for 10 days last year, followed by anti candida diet

which

> really sorted me out for the better! Found it was my diet that

caused the

> IBS symptoms. I hope to do parasite/liver/gallbladder cleanses in

the

> future. If it wasn't for the internet and this list, I'd still be

up half

> the night.

>

> Read as much as you can. There are numerous products available on-

line so

> availability isn't a problem.

>

> All the best!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tara,

Thanks for the info on Caltrate 600. What's with

Magnesium? I wasn't aware that it isn't good for

us. Can you explain? Thanks!

I also appreciated the explanation of the five kinds

of PA. Thanks!

Have a good day everyone!

Pat

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ra - I am checking up on emails after a few days away - what is IBS?

[ ] IBS

> I posted a while ago about my IBS woes as well, and want to report that I

> think I have found a miracle cure (for IBS, not PA unfortunately). I did

> lots of research online, determined to manage this socially altering and

> very annoying problem. I started taking Calcium each day, on the advice

of

> others who have had some success with this therapy.

>

> I am happy to report that after a month of taking Calcium, my IBS seems to

> have gone away. This is a huge deal for me, since I basically stopped

going

> out to eat or to parties for fear of an emergency. Anyway, this Calcium

is

> a wonderful thing. If you would like to try it, please be sure that you

> take Caltrate 600 with NO magnesium. Magnesium is a big no no, so make

sure

> you don;t take a supplement with that in it, it only makes things worse.

>

> Feel free to email if you need more info.....

> Tara in NJ

>

> PS--thanks to those who posted the 5 types of PA for me!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

ITB= IRRITABLE BOWEL SYNDROME

[Guest guest]

Hi Pat

I suffer from ibs and after I had my last top and tail test the Dr

prescribed Deptran 25mg I told him I was already on 50mg for Pain block from

the P/a & A but he said that I need 75mg and it should pull it into line. He

was right I still get a bit only when I eat the wrong food and when I am

under a lot of stress.

Just thought I would let you know my treatment

God Bless

Beverley in Australia

Have a very Happy Easter Pat

[Guest guest]

> ra - I am checking up on emails after a few days away - what is

IBS?

here. Thanks to everyone who posted about IBS in responce to my

question. I have had IBS all my life (stress related) but a few years

ago I had a very bad bout that caused severe weight loss. Happened

after taking an antibiotic which I had taken with impugnity before!

It was after that bad case that my psoriasis first appeared as small

spots on the palms of both hands. I finally got the bowel under

control by watching what I ate but the psoriasis on the right hand

grew and grew and then of course the psoriasis went crazy when the

arthritis appeared this past winter.

I know that the IBS doesn't like all these nsaids I have been taking.

Beats me how I can get the inflammation under control and not take my

medicine. I will try the *calcium treatment* because I do take

calcium but with D and Magnesium. They say you can just get away with

something like Calcium Carbonate. Heaven knows I take enough of that!

[Guest guest]

Thanks Beverley! the info on IBS was most helpful.

I sure hope that you all have a fun, happy and

pain free Easter!

Blessings,

Pat

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In a message dated 2/6/03 12:17:15 AM Central Standard Time, fam24@...

writes:

> ~~~I feel like the IBS is all related to the

> autoimmune thing. ~~~

> Janet

Abnormalities in the intestines of psoriatics have been noted. What happens

to the outside skin could conceivable also happen to inside skin. This might

make for some interesting reading. <A

HREF= " http://www.meridianinstitute.com/psorias2.htm " >MEDICAL RESEARCH ON THE

INTESTINE/PSORIASIS CONNECTION</A>

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Count me in. ;( (VA)

[Guest guest]

Orin,

Thanks so much for the information on the psoriasis link and inflammatory

bowel disease. I always felt like there was a connection. This board has

helped me so much. It's great to be able to post with people who are

experiencing the same thing that I am going through.

Janet

[Guest guest]

Janet,

Have you been tested for celiac disease (gluten intolerance)? Has many

similar symptoms to Crohn's and IBS but resolves when gluten is removed from

the diet...I have never gotten a formal diagnosis, but I do much better

gluten free....

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/7/2003 12:12:50 AM Eastern Standard Time,

rachelviognier@... writes:

> Have you been tested for celiac disease (gluten intolerance)? Has many

> similar symptoms to Crohn's and IBS but resolves when gluten is removed

> from

> the diet...I have never gotten a formal diagnosis, but I do much better

> gluten free....

>

> No , thanks for the advice. I often wondered if it could be gluten

> intolerence although there are so many other foods that I have trouble

> with. This includes salad, many fruits, and dairy. How do they test for

> celiac disease.

> Thanks,

> Janet

[Guest guest]

Janet,

I don't know if there are different ways to test for it...when I was first

going through the getting my diagnosis for pernicious anemia, they thought I

might be bleeding internally, so they did both an endoscopy and colonoscopy,

and during the endoscopy they took a biopsy of the small intestine...nothing

showed up, but I know I feel better without gluten, especially as it relates

to fatigue...hope that helps.

[Guest guest]

Here is what has helped me - my gasto prescribed levid. and that helped some -

but I got to thinking that I use to take a muscle relaxer -(robaxin) and I

started back taking it 500mg x2 aday. and this has helped greatly. I was told

that the anxiety - which causes muscle spasms,does nasty things to us. maybe

this will help someone. well, I'm off to get a root-canal. aren't I the envy of

all! lol.

I wish everyone a Happy Day.

Jan in AL

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/14/2003 9:39:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, JNJSewing writes:

> Here is what has helped me - my gasto prescribed levid.

My gastro tried Levbid on me and Nulev which is similar. I tried diets and

everything. The only thing that helped was the calcium carbonate in the

Caltrate 600 bottle. Worked like a miracle.

Janet