RE: Uncontrollable laughing

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I need some help.My 8 yr old Aspie son has trouble controlling laughter

in class.I keep getting calls from the teacher regarding this,that they

cant get him to stop..They say he does it at inappropriate times..I

really dont know what to tell them to do..Any suggestions? I thought

they were the professionals..Maybe they should look it up on the

internet how to deal with it in the classroom.....

Conni

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Conni,

I have heard of high yeast causing these type of "abnormal laughing fits". Our ABA play therapist works with one child that exhibits these odd laughing fits... and this is the behavior that signals his yeast is flairing up. Once the family starts treating the yeast again, the odd laughing behavior goes away.

I would check your son's yeast and see if it is high. In the cases where people have reported this type of odd laughter, once the yeast was under control, the behavior has stopped.

Yeast can be controlled through using anti-yeast medications (nizoral, diflucan, etc.), homeopathic supplements (candidase enzyme, grape fruit seed extract, three lac, olive leaf extract, oregano oil) and/or diet modifications (eliminate all refined sugar, complex carbohydrates (that convert to sugars) and no yeast in baked goods.

Hope it's helpful to your son too.

From: clbrew311@... <clbrew311@...>Subject: RE: ( ) Uncontrollable laughing Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 10:32 PM

I need some help.My 8 yr old Aspie son has trouble controlling laughterin class.I keep getting calls from the teacher regarding this,that theycant get him to stop..They say he does it at inappropriate times..Ireally dont know what to tell them to do..Any suggestions? I thoughtthey were the professionals. .Maybe they should look it up on theinternet how to deal with it in the classroom... ..Conni

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Laughing like this is not an uncommon symptom of autism that some people/kids have. It can be happening for various reasons such as anxiety or stress or sensory reasons. It is also a sign of seizures in some people. It could be a tic as well. I would first take him to a neurologist to have everything looked over. Then if that is all ok, work with the school autism consultant to identify why he's doing it so you can then design an intervention to either make it stop or redirect it.

Yes, you thought they were the professionals but really, they know little about autism and how to manage behaviors. I shouldn't say that about "all" educators. I know there are some good ones out there. But unfortunately, you can't expect them to have the answers. You will have to work to get them to hire an autism consultant to come in and work on these kinds of problems. Doing a "Functional behavior analysis" (FBA) will help identify why he is laughing. Only then will you be able to find ways to stop it or alter it. I hope he isn't getting in trouble for doing it either.

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RE: ( ) Uncontrollable laughing

I need some help.My 8 yr old Aspie son has trouble controlling laughterin class.I keep getting calls from the teacher regarding this,that theycant get him to stop..They say he does it at inappropriate times..Ireally dont know what to tell them to do..Any suggestions? I thoughtthey were the professionals..Maybe they should look it up on theinternet how to deal with it in the classroom.....Conni

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Roxanna,

I dont know if he gets in trouble for the laughter.I know they probably

yell at him, but not sure if they punish him.. I am taking him to a

neurologist in April..As for the autism expert at the school, I dont

know if they have one, but I will suggest they contact one and get

advice on how to handle it.. Thanks!

Conni

Roxanna wrote: Laughing like this is not an uncommon symptom of autism

that some people/kids have.  It can be happening for various reasons

such as anxiety or stress or sensory reasons.  It is also a sign of

seizures in some people.  It could be a tic as well.  I would first

take him to a neurologist to have everything looked over.  Then if

that is all ok, work with the school autism consultant to identify why

he's doing it so you can then design an intervention to either make it

stop or redirect it. 

 

Yes, you thought they were the professionals but really, they know

little about autism and how to manage behaviors.  I shouldn't say that

about " all " educators.  I know there are some good ones out there. 

But unfortunately, you can't expect them to have the answers.  You

will have to work to get them to hire an autism consultant to come in

and work on these kinds of problems.  Doing a " Functional behavior

analysis " (FBA) will help identify why he is laughing.  Only then will

you be able to find ways to stop it or alter it.  I hope he isn't

getting in trouble for doing it either. 

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Alyssa,

Thanks for your response..It seems that this eliminating yeast from diet

must make it hard to figure out what to feed him, no? Does it say

" refined sugars " on the ingredients or are they under their own

different names and refined sugar is just a broad term?

Conni

Alyssa wrote:

Conni,

 

I have heard of high yeast causing these type of " abnormal laughing

fits " .  Our ABA play therapist works with one child that exhibits

these odd laughing fits... and this is the behavior that signals his

yeast is flairing up.  Once the family starts treating the

yeast again, the odd laughing behavior goes away. 

 

I would check your son's yeast and see if it is high.  In the cases

where people have reported this type of odd laughter, once the yeast was

under control, the behavior has stopped.

 

Yeast can be controlled through using anti-yeast medications (nizoral,

diflucan, etc.), homeopathic supplements (candidase enzyme, grape fruit

seed extract, three lac, olive leaf extract, oregano oil) and/or diet

modifications (eliminate all refined sugar, complex carbohydrates (that

convert to sugars) and no yeast in baked goods.

 

Hope it's helpful to your son too

[Guest guest]

Alyssa,

How do I check my son's yeast?

Conni

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My son, gets quite giggly and disrupts class a bit with it. His

neurologist said that his medication, Lexapro, can sometimes do

this. I remember when I was working with developmentally disabled

adults there was a woman who would laugh uncontrollably as a side

effect to some combination of medications. It took them forever to

get it worked out. She didn't have autism. She had a brain injury

from a doctor using forceps when she was born.

Miriam

>

> I need some help.My 8 yr old Aspie son has trouble controlling

laughter

> in class.I keep getting calls from the teacher regarding this,that

they

> cant get him to stop..They say he does it at inappropriate times..I

> really dont know what to tell them to do..Any suggestions? I thought

> they were the professionals..Maybe they should look it up on the

> internet how to deal with it in the classroom.....

> Conni

>

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Conni,

The test we used to check our boys yeast levels was:

Metametrix Clinical Laboratory

3425 Corporate Way

Duluth, GA 30096

770-446-5483 (phone)

770-441-2237 (fax)

The lab (kit) is called 2100 Gastrointestinal Function Profile and checks for yeast, parasites and bacteria in stool as well as looks at overall GI functioning (absorption, GI inflammation, etc.) If I am remembering correctly I think the test runs in the neighborhood of $350. out of pocket and we have been reimbursed approx. 60% back by our insurance... witpersistencece.

You can call them directly but I believe a doctor has to order the test. If you have a good pedi. they could help you get the kit to be completed and mailed to their lab. Or a local homeopathic doctor may also be able to help you.

Signs of yeast over-growth can be bloating, headache, fatigue, atopic dermatitis and diarrhea. Our son has had chronic diarrhea for over a year and a half... that no doctor was able to resolve (even after an endoscopy and colonoscopy). He was a child that had a history of chronic ear infections and over-use of antibiotics (which can cause high yeast) due to this fact.

He has been on anti-yeast treatments with a DAN! (Defeat Autism Now! pediatrician) for several months now (due to high yeast test results on the GI Profile and has been taking diflucan) and he also started the Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD). He has been diarrhea free for weeks now so we are hoping we have found our solution... finally after searching for an answer for over a year!

Modifying how you feed your kids is a big undertaking, for sure. Our journey began over the summer and it has been a challenge for me because I was never a "label reader" before all of this so it has been a crash course in nutrition for me. It has taken time to find substitute foods but it has yielded great results in our two boys and that keeps me motivated despite the extra work.

Organic raw nuts and "clean" dried fruits have become my kids favorite treats. They eat a diet heavy in protein and fresh fruit. Fresh vegetables are still hard... but I'm trying.

If you start reading labels carefully, you will see that different brands of raisins, for example, are "cleaner" than others. Some raisins have raisins and SUGAR in the ingredients. Now I look for the raisins that are simply raisins, with no added sugar. Shop the perimeter of the grocery store. Many of the processed foods (in the center aisles of the grocery store) are too high in sugar, if you are trying to control yeast issues.

The theory is that sugar feeds yeast. Any food that you eat that converts to sugars (complex carbohydrates especially- breads, cakes, cookies, pasta, and anything with granulated (raw) sugar in it or high fructose corn syrup, etc) will feed yeast. The more you feed the yeast, the more yeast will grow. But if you remove the food source for yeast, it will "die off" and greater GI balance and overall health will be restored.

The Specific Carbohydrate Diet is basically an anti-diarrhea and anti-yeast diet. It does not allow any grains (white or wheat flour, rice flour, alternative flours, or starches- potato) at all. Only protein, fresh fruit, vegetables and select beans. And all baked goods need to be made with nut flours. It sounds scary at first, but it is really just back to excellent eating and nutrition... and I have to say, my son has NEVER eaten as well or as much food as he has since starting SCD. I think he just feels better. I know how challenging it can be to put the puzzle together. The road to simply helping my son's diarrhea has been a long exhausting one.

I am wondering if you could track any of the episodes back to what your son had recently eaten? The day before the outburst? Or at breakfast that morning? Or lunch at school? Do any of his laughing episodes correlate with times when he was eating a lot of complex carbohydrates? Breads? Cakes? Sugary breakfast cereals? Or treats at parties (in school or out)?

....Or following a round of antibiotics?

If you do the yeast test, please keep in touch and let me know if it is helpful to your son.

Best wishes. I am happy to talk more with you, if you are interested.

Sample meal plan, to give you an idea:

Breakfast:

bacon (Applegate Farms)- I cook the meats on Sunday night so I just heat them in the am

sausage (Shelton brand or All Natural)

blueberries

apple cinn. almond flour muffin (home mead- easy recipe)

eggs would be a good choice too (...but my son can't have eggs)

Snack:

dried apple chips

cucumbers with salt

raisins

Lunch:

diced ham (Boars Head All Natural- cut off the skin)

navy beans

strawberries

broccoli

Snack:

dried jack fruit

raw pistachios

celery with almond butter (or cashew butter)

Dinner:

turkey burgers

fresh green beans

pear and cranberry "bake" (diced pear, fresh cranberries, cinn. and honey baked in the oven for one hour)- He loves this over a muffin.

I have a few good muffin recipes, cookie recipe and bread recipe. I do a lot of baking on one day. I leave some out for the week and freeze individual servings to take out over the next two weeks. So I bake every three weeks approx.

Conni, I have heard of high yeast causing these type of "abnormal laughingfits". Our ABA play therapist works with one child that exhibitsthese odd laughing fits... and this is the behavior that signals hisyeast is flairing up. Once the family starts treating theyeast again, the odd laughing behavior goes away. I would check your son's yeast and see if it is high. In the caseswhere people have reported this type of odd laughter, once the yeast wasunder control, the behavior has stopped. Yeast can be controlled through using anti-yeast

medications (nizoral,diflucan, etc.), homeopathic supplements (candidase enzyme, grape fruitseed extract, three lac, olive leaf extract, oregano oil) and/or dietmodifications (eliminate all refined sugar, complex carbohydrates (thatconvert to sugars) and no yeast in baked goods. Hope it's helpful to your son too

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Conni,

I have heard this condition with yeast called, "auto brewery syndrome" or "gut fermentation", and some say people can appear "drunk" from the yeast. I found the following article on line. It gives a basic intro. to the concept. There are several good books on the topic listed, if you would like to learn more.

Best.

Sweets Cravings

By: Winsey-Rudd

The sugar industry and the food manufacturers are capitalizing BIG TIME on the addictive nature of carbohydrates (sweets, breads, deserts) in the human body. Blood sugar-handling problems promote arteriosclerosis (plaque in the arteries), adult-onset diabetes, mood swings, weight problems, chronic fatigue, PMS and much more. Additionally, there is evidence that sugar addiction has a component of alcoholism!

Consider that there actually is speculation about a Syndrome called “Gut Fermentation" or “Auto-Brewery Syndrome." There is a great deal of evidence that due to a combination of 1. An overgrown yeast population in the GI tract (gastrointestinal system), 2. Compromised stomach acid levels (hypochlorhydria), and consumption of refined carbohydrates, detectable amounts of alcohol are produced. In fact, it is estimated that this syndrome plagues 61% of chronically unwell patients.

Microscopic Yeast, “Candida Albicans" Controls Your Cravings. Just what is candida albicans? Neither a vegetable nor an animal, yeasts live in our intestines, on our skin, as well as on the surfaces of all living creatures (and foods). However, yeasts usually live in small enough numbers that the existence of large populations of “good flora" (the kind of bacteria that actually assist human health) keeps it under control.

Candida yeast is in the fungal family, and loves warm, moist places on, or inside living things. People plagued with candida crave sweets – carbohydrates – and milk products (cheese, milk, ice cream, etc.) because candida “loves" these foods too. Americans consider them daily fare.

How Can I Diagnose Myself? Though there are tests that can be done many practitioners diagnose from the symptoms and health history alone. Ask yourself these questions and then take the symptom survey in #6 below:

Taken many antibiotic drugs from childhood through the present?

Are you now, or have you had periods of high to extreme stress in your life?

Taken birth control pills for any period of time?

Heavily consume white breads, pastas, cookies, cakes, ice cream, cheeses, etc?

Have a child who has been labeled ADD/ADHD, “slow learner" or “underachiever"? Our children are huge victims of the yeast syndrome!

Circle your symptoms:

Headaches,

Depression,

Fatigue,

Mood swings,

Muscle/joint pains (unexplained),

Loss of strong libido/sexual function,

Chemical sensitivities,

Asthma & respiratory problems,

Food sensitivities,

Memory loss,

Constant colds,

Sleep Problems,

Volvodynia, endometriosis, infertility,

Attention Deficits,

Ear problems,

Skin rashes,

Hyperactivity,

Poor School Performance,

Recurrent vaginal yeast infections,

Pain on intercourse,

Interstitial cystitis

How Does This Yeast Syndrome Occur? In a person with a strong immune system, yeasts co-exist with the millions of other microbes (“micro flora") in the body. The imbalance begins with the use of broad-spectrum antibiotics. These drugs not only kill infectious microbes, but also kill the “good flora" that normally live in our bodies; thus decreasing the body’s built-in yeast population control. The opportunistic yeast then have a chance to multiply.

Worse yet, yeasts excrete toxins into their environment (the host body) that weaken the immune system further. This increases susceptibility to re-infection and the need for more antibiotics; leading to more killing of the “good flora" and hence the continued overgrowth of yeasts – a vicious cycle!

Yeasts can and do spread to be a system-wide problem. The result is myriad symptoms that can arise from its pervasiveness.

What YOU Can Do NOW: Unfortunately, simply eating yogurt to ingest the “good flora" (acidophilus and bifidus) when you take antibiotics isn’t enough. Dietary changes, along with herbs and supplements are vital. In severe cases, anti-fungal prescriptions are recommended. There are several must-read books on the subject: The Yeast Connection by Dr. Crock, M.D., The Body Knows, by Caroline Sutherland, and regarding the negatives of sugar, Sugar Blues, by Dufty.

Candida Yeast infections are no joke, and progressively make the sufferer’s life more and more difficult. If you ignore it, it will NOT go away.. Many people have been so debilitated by candida problems that they almost felt they needed to go live in a plastic bubble to stay healthy. If you do have it, getting free of systemic yeast infection can revolutionize your health, and give you the youthful vitality and wellness you never thought you’d see again.

Conni, I have heard of high yeast causing these type of "abnormal laughingfits". Our ABA play therapist works with one child that exhibitsthese odd laughing fits... and this is the behavior that signals hisyeast is flairing up. Once the family starts treating theyeast again, the odd laughing behavior goes away. I would check your son's yeast and see if it is high. In the caseswhere people have reported this type of odd laughter, once the yeast wasunder control, the behavior has stopped. Yeast can be controlled through using anti-yeast

medications (nizoral,diflucan, etc.), homeopathic supplements (candidase enzyme, grape fruitseed extract, three lac, olive leaf extract, oregano oil) and/or dietmodifications (eliminate all refined sugar, complex carbohydrates (thatconvert to sugars) and no yeast in baked goods. Hope it's helpful to your son too

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Alyssa,

Thanks for the sample menu..My only problem will be that my son has an

egg AND peanut and nut allergy as well.

Conni