Re: Question about Gifted Testing

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> My question is regarding the testing for the GT program. My son has

> an IEP with his primary accommodation being extra time for class

> assignments and tests. The GT tests are timed so we are concerned

> that he would not pass for that reason. However, we believe it

would

> help his self-esteem greatly if he could be in the gifted program.

> Does anyone know if his IEP accommodations would also apply to the

GT

> testing? i.e. Does he have a right to extra time on the GT tests as

well?

>

> Thanks for any help you can offer. This group is wonderful and I

have

> learned so much already from all of you.

>

>

>

Hi !

I don't know what state you live in, but during fifth grade (in GA),

one of our son's teachers suggested that he might do well in a gifted

program, both for educational and self-esteem benefits, but he could

not qualify because his IEP allowed extra time for standardized

testing. They would not even test him to see if he could do it

without

the extra time.

I hope that's not the case where you are...it's so frustrating when

your child scores off the charts on the standardized tests, but can't

even be evaluated for a gifted program!

Laurie

www.therapythreads.com

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm in Illinois and also have an IEP for extra time on tests. The GT

program would NOT allow accommodations for test. He was allowed to

take the test without accomodations. This was ok for him since it

was just math and he didn't need the accomodations for Math. Writing

is a whole 'nother story.

Sandy

>

> > My question is regarding the testing for the GT program. My son

has

> > an IEP with his primary accommodation being extra time for class

> > assignments and tests. The GT tests are timed so we are concerned

> > that he would not pass for that reason. However, we believe it

> would

> > help his self-esteem greatly if he could be in the gifted

program.

> > Does anyone know if his IEP accommodations would also apply to

the

> GT

> > testing? i.e. Does he have a right to extra time on the GT tests

as

> well?

> >

> > Thanks for any help you can offer. This group is wonderful and I

> have

> > learned so much already from all of you.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> My question is regarding the testing for the GT program. My son has

> an IEP with his primary accommodation being extra time for class

> assignments and tests. The GT tests are timed so we are concerned

> that he would not pass for that reason. However, we believe it would

> help his self-esteem greatly if he could be in the gifted program.

> Does anyone know if his IEP accommodations would also apply to the GT

> testing? i.e. Does he have a right to extra time on the GT tests as

well?

I think this would depend on the rules in your state and school

district and the attitude at the particular school where you're at.

In Texas, where we live, students with disabilities have the right to

apply to gifted programs. But beyond that it is fuzzy. They don't

explicitly say whether the testing should allow for accommodations or

not. One thing I can say is that you should check out the GT program

carefully first. The teachers in ours were not trained much different

than any other teachers, weren't accommodating, in fact, were very

stinky. My son hasn't needed accommodations on standardized testing

yet, so getting in the program was not a problem. But he got kicked

out after a few years because of his issues. They were very mean to

him. And the GT program in our district turned out to be more geared

toward high-achievers with early developing executive functioning more

than kids who were actually gifted anyway. I feel like gifted kids in

our district don't really have a place despite the GT program.

Anyway, I would advise googling or calling your state education agency

and finding out what the rules actually are. Then call your school

district and find out what their rules are. Other peoples experiences

from other states and school districts could be misleading since

your's may be different!

Hope this helps.

Ruth

[Guest guest]

, my son was in the gifted program and had no time limit on

tests and extra time for turning in work written into his 504 Plan.

I *think* they did do some extra paperwork to get him the extra time

on state tests...maybe not, but he had the " extra time " on them too.

They did do a request to the state for him to have extra sheets of

paper for the writing test and not just the one sheet the test gives

(he wrote large so they felt he needed extra paper to do well on

it).

You might search around on your state's education website. I

remember I found where " state tests " were included in the " extra

time " accommodation. I just don't recall if they had to make " note "

of that to the state in some way. I asked when he was in 8th grade

about the state tests and time, and was told if he didn't finish in

the alloted time that he would go to another room to finish. He was

last in his room to finish (others had finished much sooner) but it

was still within the regular testing time allowed.

I don't see how the gifted program could NOT allow extra time if it's

something he is getting already.

Just my thoughts,

>

> My 10 year old (5th grade) ds is 2E. He has aspergers, bipolar

> disorder and a seizure disorder but he tested in 2nd grade in

another

> state as highly gifted, before we had any dx. He has really

struggled

> with depression and his self-esteem is terrible, so we haven't had

him

> tested in his new school, mainly because we didn't want to put any

> more pressure on him.

>

> My question is regarding the testing for the GT program. My son has

> an IEP with his primary accommodation being extra time for class

> assignments and tests. The GT tests are timed so we are concerned

> that he would not pass for that reason. However, we believe it

would

> help his self-esteem greatly if he could be in the gifted program.

> Does anyone know if his IEP accommodations would also apply to the

GT

> testing? i.e. Does he have a right to extra time on the GT tests as

well?

>

> Thanks for any help you can offer. This group is wonderful and I

have

> learned so much already from all of you.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, all his IEP accommodations apply for all testing and in gifted classes as well --> http://www.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-20071226.html

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( ) Question about Gifted Testing

My 10 year old (5th grade) ds is 2E. He has aspergers, bipolardisorder and a seizure disorder but he tested in 2nd grade in anotherstate as highly gifted, before we had any dx. He has really struggledwith depression and his self-esteem is terrible, so we haven't had himtested in his new school, mainly because we didn't want to put anymore pressure on him. My question is regarding the testing for the GT program. My son hasan IEP with his primary accommodation being extra time for classassignments and tests. The GT tests are timed so we are concernedthat he would not pass for that reason. However, we believe it wouldhelp his self-esteem greatly if he could be in the gifted program. Does anyone know if his IEP accommodations would also apply to the GTtesting? i.e. Does he have a right to extra time on the GT tests as well?Thanks for any help you can offer. This group is wonderful and I havelearned so much already from all of you.

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[Guest guest]

Laurie, they are discriminating against him when they do this. Read this --> http://www.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-20071226.html

RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else...

( ) Re: Question about Gifted Testing

Hi !I don't know what state you live in, but during fifth grade (in GA), one of our son's teachers suggested that he might do well in a gifted program, both for educational and self-esteem benefits, but he could not qualify because his IEP allowed extra time for standardized testing. They would not even test him to see if he could do it without the extra time.I hope that's not the case where you are...it's so frustrating when your child scores off the charts on the standardized tests, but can't even be evaluated for a gifted program!Lauriewww.therapythreads.com

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[Guest guest]

Thanks so much to all of you who responded to my question. I'm very

happy to hear that his IEP accommodations also apply to the gifted

testing. So far, I've been really happy with the school (we're in a

small town just outside of Austin) but as you all know, it always

helps to know where you stand before you deal with the school.

>

> Yes, all his IEP accommodations apply for all testing and in gifted

classes as well -->

http://www.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-20071226.html

>

>

> Roxanna

> You're Unique

> Just like everyone else...

> ( ) Question about Gifted Testing

>

>

> My 10 year old (5th grade) ds is 2E. He has aspergers, bipolar

> disorder and a seizure disorder but he tested in 2nd grade in another

> state as highly gifted, before we had any dx. He has really struggled

> with depression and his self-esteem is terrible, so we haven't had him

> tested in his new school, mainly because we didn't want to put any

> more pressure on him.

>

> My question is regarding the testing for the GT program. My son has

> an IEP with his primary accommodation being extra time for class

> assignments and tests. The GT tests are timed so we are concerned

> that he would not pass for that reason. However, we believe it would

> help his self-esteem greatly if he could be in the gifted program.

> Does anyone know if his IEP accommodations would also apply to the GT

> testing? i.e. Does he have a right to extra time on the GT tests

as well?

>

> Thanks for any help you can offer. This group is wonderful and I have

> learned so much already from all of you.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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