Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 My son, GW, obsesses about activities during the day also. He always wants to know what is coming next....and so on and so forth.... at school, he used a visual schedule, and that seemed to help because he could see the activities occurring...plus, the activity schedule was velcrod, so once the activity was done, he removed it from the chart. I have implemented the same kind of chart here at home....it took awhile to make, I bought posterboard, then used Microsoft images to make pictures of various activities that we do, including birthdays, park days, pool days etc....then I laminated the pictures and added velcro to the pictures and posterboard. Activities like breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and before bed snack are always on the posterboard. There are also no times listed whatsoever....or GW would watch the clock.... On the posterboard, I have GW's name, and ten to twelve velcro dots....every morning I just stick up whatever activities GW will be responsible for that day. It has helped keep him from asking "what's next" ...but sometimes he will still ask when and what time.~but not as much Apriljerzyannie@... wrote: He follows a visual schedule in school and can read so he knows the routine. He just gets so obsessive. I feel the staff needs to reward, set consequences, etc. I mean he's in a special (autism) room at camp and in school. But I cannot jump in when i'm not there with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 My son, GW, obsesses about activities during the day also. He always wants to know what is coming next....and so on and so forth.... at school, he used a visual schedule, and that seemed to help because he could see the activities occurring...plus, the activity schedule was velcrod, so once the activity was done, he removed it from the chart. I have implemented the same kind of chart here at home....it took awhile to make, I bought posterboard, then used Microsoft images to make pictures of various activities that we do, including birthdays, park days, pool days etc....then I laminated the pictures and added velcro to the pictures and posterboard. Activities like breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and before bed snack are always on the posterboard. There are also no times listed whatsoever....or GW would watch the clock.... On the posterboard, I have GW's name, and ten to twelve velcro dots....every morning I just stick up whatever activities GW will be responsible for that day. It has helped keep him from asking "what's next" ...but sometimes he will still ask when and what time.~but not as much Apriljerzyannie@... wrote: He follows a visual schedule in school and can read so he knows the routine. He just gets so obsessive. I feel the staff needs to reward, set consequences, etc. I mean he's in a special (autism) room at camp and in school. But I cannot jump in when i'm not there with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 This is a great topic for discussion. I am a teacher and have developed a visual schedule bord for two students. No times or limits are on the board. Both students are learning what the board is used for, but they get of task quite easily. Rewards are no problem since I know what both of them like and use them appropriately. One of the boys is very verbal and obsessed with " What is for lunch " and anything that he knows is coming up in the day. The other is non verbal and makes little to no eye contact. He likes to make marks on paper and would do this all day if allowed. He also has a big problem changing tasks and will scream and knock everything on the floor if he does not get his way. Any ideas related to consequenses for bad behavior would be helpful. Thank you > > He follows a visual schedule in school and can read so he knows the routine. He just gets so obsessive. I feel the staff needs to reward, set consequences, etc. I mean he's in a special (autism) room at camp and in school. But I cannot jump in when i'm not there with him. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 I don't know about other kids, but the only thing that works for Karac is positive reinforcement for appropriate behavior, i.e. "Karac good not tearing the papers; here is a gummie". Karac use to scream in church. It took about a year of reinforcing sitting quietly on a variable ratio schedule to eliminate the screaming. That is the only way I have found to eliminate any inappropriate behavior with one exception; some behavior I just use extinction. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 I don't know about other kids, but the only thing that works for Karac is positive reinforcement for appropriate behavior, i.e. "Karac good not tearing the papers; here is a gummie". Karac use to scream in church. It took about a year of reinforcing sitting quietly on a variable ratio schedule to eliminate the screaming. That is the only way I have found to eliminate any inappropriate behavior with one exception; some behavior I just use extinction. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Tami, Thank you for sharing your success story. I will research the use of restraints in my school distrit. Like you, I hate to do things like this, but if monitored closely and removed when vilolent behavior stops it could prove to be a useful tool in stopping someone from hurting themself. I appreciate your help and will note it in my bag of tricks. > > Hi , > My son used to be the same way when transitioning. He would throw horrible fits. At age 2-4 years - The only thing I found that worked was putting him in a high chair that restrained him. I didn't restrain him to be mean, but it was the only way he understood that he was in a time out chair, we called it a cry chair (if he was not restrained, I would have to hold him there or he would just get up, so the high chair worked great). When he was in the chair he could cry all he wanted and when he stopped, I let him out. After he was a bit older, I just put him in a regular chair. Since he hated having to sit in the cry chair, he immediately quit crying. Now, all I have to say is, " do you want to sit in the cry chair " and he stops immediately. His language is better now (age 5), so when he has a tantrum, I realize its because he forgets he can verbalize why he is mad. So, now, I say " talk regular " (instead of tantrum) and I make him tell me why he is mad. Now that he > can use words to express his throughts, he tantrums much less. Before he could talk, I would try to say for him what I thought he was mad about. That is just my experience, don't know if this system will help for you or not. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Tami, Thank you for sharing your success story. I will research the use of restraints in my school distrit. Like you, I hate to do things like this, but if monitored closely and removed when vilolent behavior stops it could prove to be a useful tool in stopping someone from hurting themself. I appreciate your help and will note it in my bag of tricks. > > Hi , > My son used to be the same way when transitioning. He would throw horrible fits. At age 2-4 years - The only thing I found that worked was putting him in a high chair that restrained him. I didn't restrain him to be mean, but it was the only way he understood that he was in a time out chair, we called it a cry chair (if he was not restrained, I would have to hold him there or he would just get up, so the high chair worked great). When he was in the chair he could cry all he wanted and when he stopped, I let him out. After he was a bit older, I just put him in a regular chair. Since he hated having to sit in the cry chair, he immediately quit crying. Now, all I have to say is, " do you want to sit in the cry chair " and he stops immediately. His language is better now (age 5), so when he has a tantrum, I realize its because he forgets he can verbalize why he is mad. So, now, I say " talk regular " (instead of tantrum) and I make him tell me why he is mad. Now that he > can use words to express his throughts, he tantrums much less. Before he could talk, I would try to say for him what I thought he was mad about. That is just my experience, don't know if this system will help for you or not. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 ---Hi, I have a student who has tantrums, refuses to work, etc. Unfortunately, he learned over the years that time-out meant he didn't have to work. He will actually break a pencil and say, " He broke pencil. Time-out. No work. " Time out was a REWARD! What I do is sit my chair behind his (like a choo-choo train) and put a weighted lap blanket on him. My arms are around him holding the corners of the blanket. Then I just make sure my head is out of head- but range and wait him out. Every minute or two I say, " When you are ready we will work. " It used to take up to 30 minutes, but now he knows that he isn't getting up and it takes only 5-10 minutes. It takes patience and NO negative reinforcement- you cannot respond to anything he says, cries, etc or give up, because then you just raise the threshold for his behavior the next time. Hope this helps- sitting behind him is not technically restraint, but it still prevents him from moving. AMY > Tami, > Thank you for sharing your success story. I will research the use > of restraints in my school distrit. Like you, I hate to do things > like this, but if monitored closely and removed when vilolent > behavior stops it could prove to be a useful tool in stopping > someone from hurting themself. I appreciate your help and will note > it in my bag of tricks. > > > > > > > > > worked was putting him in a high chair that restrained him. I > didn't restrain him to be mean, but it was the only way he > understood that he was in a time out chair, we called it a cry chair > (if he was not restrained, I would have to hold him there or he > would just get up, so the high chair worked great). When he was in > the chair he could cry all he wanted and when he stopped, I let him > out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 ---Hi, I have a student who has tantrums, refuses to work, etc. Unfortunately, he learned over the years that time-out meant he didn't have to work. He will actually break a pencil and say, " He broke pencil. Time-out. No work. " Time out was a REWARD! What I do is sit my chair behind his (like a choo-choo train) and put a weighted lap blanket on him. My arms are around him holding the corners of the blanket. Then I just make sure my head is out of head- but range and wait him out. Every minute or two I say, " When you are ready we will work. " It used to take up to 30 minutes, but now he knows that he isn't getting up and it takes only 5-10 minutes. It takes patience and NO negative reinforcement- you cannot respond to anything he says, cries, etc or give up, because then you just raise the threshold for his behavior the next time. Hope this helps- sitting behind him is not technically restraint, but it still prevents him from moving. AMY > Tami, > Thank you for sharing your success story. I will research the use > of restraints in my school distrit. Like you, I hate to do things > like this, but if monitored closely and removed when vilolent > behavior stops it could prove to be a useful tool in stopping > someone from hurting themself. I appreciate your help and will note > it in my bag of tricks. > > > > > > > > > worked was putting him in a high chair that restrained him. I > didn't restrain him to be mean, but it was the only way he > understood that he was in a time out chair, we called it a cry chair > (if he was not restrained, I would have to hold him there or he > would just get up, so the high chair worked great). When he was in > the chair he could cry all he wanted and when he stopped, I let him > out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Hey there! I am new here, and also fairly new (February) to the diagnosis. My son was diagnosed with Aspergers, anxiety and ADHD in Feruary. We knew the anxiety, not the others. One of the things I have been working on for G is a visual schedule (he is six going into grade 2) does anyone out there have a good resource for creating a visual schdeule? Charlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Hi Charlene, I'm so new to this whole thing that I'm not sure I even know what a visual schedule is. My assumption is that it is a schedule of daily activities accompanied by a picture so that he knows what comes next and made transitions easier. Do you need a schedule for home for the summer, or do you home school? I don't know good resources, but I did here a neat idea of taking a digital picture of your son doing what it is you want him to do and using the pictures as his schedule. For example take a picture of him brushing his teeth and have that put up for his teeth time. I think also at this age, a good idea would be to have the words written down next to the picture (especially if your ds is having difficulty reading). And, if you want to practice time telling, you could have a clock next to each picture showing the time and have a real clock next to your schedule. Although, that might create an issue of him being too rigid with the schedule, but it might also put him in a position to be more self-sufficient. Jill > > Hey there! I am new here, and also fairly new (February) to the > diagnosis. My son was diagnosed with Aspergers, anxiety and ADHD in > Feruary. We knew the anxiety, not the others. One of the things I have > been working on for G is a visual schedule (he is six going into grade > 2) does anyone out there have a good resource for creating a visual > schdeule? > > Charlene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Hi Charlene The site www.dotolearn.com has many ideas and some free pictures to download. I made a basic weekly calendar for (4 years) using laminated A4 pages. I used a page a day from Monday to Friday(each a different color). They are up on the wall in the kitchen, starting at Monday on the left and ending with Sunday on the far right. Each page has the day written at the top. Next to the name of the day I have a piece of velcro. To show him which day we are on, I stick a small photo of him on the velcro next to the name of the day. There are also 10 pieces of velcro, 5 down the left and 5 down the right of the page. I use pictures in the order in which things are going to happen. Eg. Sunday first picture on left bread and tea for breakfast, picture of church, picture of cake to indicate a birthday party, picture of pasta for lunch, picture of home to indicate going home, picture of supper, picture of bath, picture of bed. We have many pictures, some clip art, some from do-2-learn, some we got from school, all +- 2x2cm. We show school, granny, farm, meals of different kinds, restaurants, shopping mall, hair cut(scissors and comb) etc. He is a very anxious little boy, and having this schedule which shows him what comes next has definitely decreased some of the anxiety about not knowing what to expect. Every now and then he runs back to the wall to see what's next. At night, after he goes to sleep I put up all the available info on the following day. In the morning we go to the chart and discuss the day and if plans change we both go to the wall and he helps me make the changes by removing and replacing picture cards. All picture cards have velcro on the back, so they are easy to change around. Sometimes we will make the next days chart together before he goes to bed, especially if the next day is something very out of the ordinary, This way he is better prepared to deal with big things like parties and holidays away from home. He loves going away on holiday, but I like to prepare him anyway. Hope this helps. Mirinda (, 4 years almost HFA, Annika 19 months NT so far) South Africa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Wow! I find this interesting and may even try it with (12). thanks for the information. Jan Janice Rushen Mom, Mentor, Wife, Teacher, Advocate, Accountant, Maid, Taxi, Shopper, Bulletin Board Artist Nanny, Crafter, Therapist, Friend, Sister, Aunt, Daughter, Grand-daughter, Personal Care Aide, Student, Believer, and Giver. From: Mirinda Nel <mirinda.nel@...>Subject: ( ) Re:Visual Schedule Date: Monday, June 23, 2008, 2:46 AM Hi Charlene The site www.dotolearn. com has many ideas and some free pictures to download. I made a basic weekly calendar for (4 years) using laminated A4 pages. I used a page a day from Monday to Friday(each a different color). They are up on the wall in the kitchen, starting at Monday on the left and ending with Sunday on the far right. Each page has the day written at the top. Next to the name of the day I have a piece of velcro. To show him which day we are on, I stick a small photo of him on the velcro next to the name of the day. There are also 10 pieces of velcro, 5 down the left and 5 down the right of the page. I use pictures in the order in which things are going to happen. Eg. Sunday first picture on left bread and tea for breakfast, picture of church, picture of cake to indicate a birthday party, picture of pasta for lunch, picture of home to indicate going home, picture of supper, picture of bath, picture of bed. We have many pictures, some clip art, some from do-2-learn, some we got from school, all +- 2x2cm. We show school, granny, farm, meals of different kinds, restaurants, shopping mall, hair cut(scissors and comb) etc. He is a very anxious little boy, and having this schedule which shows him what comes next has definitely decreased some of the anxiety about not knowing what to expect. Every now and then he runs back to the wall to see what's next. At night, after he goes to sleep I put up all the available info on the following day. In the morning we go to the chart and discuss the day and if plans change we both go to the wall and he helps me make the changes by removing and replacing picture cards. All picture cards have velcro on the back, so they are easy to change around. Sometimes we will make the next days chart together before he goes to bed, especially if the next day is something very out of the ordinary, This way he is better prepared to deal with big things like parties and holidays away from home. He loves going away on holiday, but I like to prepare him anyway. Hope this helps. Mirinda (, 4 years almost HFA, Annika 19 months NT so far) South Africa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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