Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Although I don't condone any violence on the school staff, I'm speechless that the only recourse they thought was appropriate was the police? For a 10-yr-old with autism? Seriously? Bless your heart. I'm sure those hours of waiting were miserable for you. Sounds like the assessment center staff were very nice though, thank god! If this isn't a CLEAR indication that the school needs more training/help/a clue-to-the-utmost-degree, I'm not sure what is. Keep us posted. I'm still in shock. "Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out." From: Hawk <hjhawk@...> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 8:59:48 PMSubject: ( ) Child with Autism Arrested Well, today at 3:15pm I got the call I had been dreading since the last IEP. See, at the last IEP the principal basically threatened to have my son arrested. A note was even placed in his cumulative folder after I complained of restraint stating that there was zero tolerance toward him and suspension, police, etc were to be used. For the last few weeks I have refused to be any distance away from the school and have been at home with my cellphone at all times, even in the bathroom, knowing the call would come. Today it did.I got the call to come pick my son up at school as he was out of control. I grabbed his service dog and got in the car and we raced over. When I got there, the police were waiting. My 10 year old child with autism was handcuffed in the back of the patrol car. I could not go see him and could not talk to the school staff. They did hand me a letter stating he was suspended for 4 days. The police told me they were taking him to the assessment center and they would call me in a few hours.This evening I was able to pick him up after a few hours in the juvenile assessment center. Thankfully the officers were made aware of his disability and they placed him in a cell alone. He was fascinated when they took his fingerprints and smiled for his booking photo (you know cause you smile for all photos like mom says) and really does not understand what went on. The detention staff said he was a great kid and would recommend that charges be dropped. At this time he is charged with two 3rd degree felony counts of battery on a school official. He is now home, tired and hungry. He is off getting ready for bed as I type. Tonight he begged me to never send him back to the school that does not understand him were there is no where safe for him to be. -- AutismOnTheGo. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 , Your post moved me to tears. It must of been the most awful experience for you and your son. Words can not describe how i feel after reading this. This kind of thing could happen to anyone our of kids and it really makes me feel physically sick. You and your son will be in my thoughts and prayers. Would it be possible to move your son to a different school? Please keep us posted. Estelle From: MacAllister <smacalli@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Child with Autism Arrested Date: Friday, 13 February, 2009, 5:30 PM Although I don't condone any violence on the school staff, I'm speechless that the only recourse they thought was appropriate was the police? For a 10-yr-old with autism? Seriously? Bless your heart. I'm sure those hours of waiting were miserable for you. Sounds like the assessment center staff were very nice though, thank god! If this isn't a CLEAR indication that the school needs more training/help/ a clue-to-the- utmost-degree, I'm not sure what is. Keep us posted. I'm still in shock. "Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out." From: Hawk <hjhawkgmail (DOT) com> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 8:59:48 PMSubject: ( ) Child with Autism Arrested Well, today at 3:15pm I got the call I had been dreading since the last IEP. See, at the last IEP the principal basically threatened to have my son arrested. A note was even placed in his cumulative folder after I complained of restraint stating that there was zero tolerance toward him and suspension, police, etc were to be used. For the last few weeks I have refused to be any distance away from the school and have been at home with my cellphone at all times, even in the bathroom, knowing the call would come. Today it did.I got the call to come pick my son up at school as he was out of control. I grabbed his service dog and got in the car and we raced over. When I got there, the police were waiting. My 10 year old child with autism was handcuffed in the back of the patrol car. I could not go see him and could not talk to the school staff. They did hand me a letter stating he was suspended for 4 days. The police told me they were taking him to the assessment center and they would call me in a few hours.This evening I was able to pick him up after a few hours in the juvenile assessment center. Thankfully the officers were made aware of his disability and they placed him in a cell alone. He was fascinated when they took his fingerprints and smiled for his booking photo (you know cause you smile for all photos like mom says) and really does not understand what went on. The detention staff said he was a great kid and would recommend that charges be dropped. At this time he is charged with two 3rd degree felony counts of battery on a school official. He is now home, tired and hungry. He is off getting ready for bed as I type. Tonight he begged me to never send him back to the school that does not understand him were there is no where safe for him to be. -- AutismOnTheGo. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 We are asking for private school placement now. He is home and calming down some. The story is going out all over the news and the support has been amazing. Thanks everyoneOn Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Estelle <estellelws@...> wrote: , Your post moved me to tears. It must of been the most awful experience for you and your son. Words can not describe how i feel after reading this. This kind of thing could happen to anyone our of kids and it really makes me feel physically sick. You and your son will be in my thoughts and prayers. Would it be possible to move your son to a different school? Please keep us posted. Estelle From: MacAllister <smacalli@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Child with Autism Arrested Date: Friday, 13 February, 2009, 5:30 PM Although I don't condone any violence on the school staff, I'm speechless that the only recourse they thought was appropriate was the police? For a 10-yr-old with autism? Seriously? Bless your heart. I'm sure those hours of waiting were miserable for you. Sounds like the assessment center staff were very nice though, thank god! If this isn't a CLEAR indication that the school needs more training/help/ a clue-to-the- utmost-degree, I'm not sure what is. Keep us posted. I'm still in shock. " Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out. " From: Hawk <hjhawkgmail (DOT) com> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 8:59:48 PM Subject: ( ) Child with Autism Arrested Well, today at 3:15pm I got the call I had been dreading since the last IEP. See, at the last IEP the principal basically threatened to have my son arrested. A note was even placed in his cumulative folder after I complained of restraint stating that there was zero tolerance toward him and suspension, police, etc were to be used. For the last few weeks I have refused to be any distance away from the school and have been at home with my cellphone at all times, even in the bathroom, knowing the call would come. Today it did. I got the call to come pick my son up at school as he was out of control. I grabbed his service dog and got in the car and we raced over. When I got there, the police were waiting. My 10 year old child with autism was handcuffed in the back of the patrol car. I could not go see him and could not talk to the school staff. They did hand me a letter stating he was suspended for 4 days. The police told me they were taking him to the assessment center and they would call me in a few hours.This evening I was able to pick him up after a few hours in the juvenile assessment center. Thankfully the officers were made aware of his disability and they placed him in a cell alone. He was fascinated when they took his fingerprints and smiled for his booking photo (you know cause you smile for all photos like mom says) and really does not understand what went on. The detention staff said he was a great kid and would recommend that charges be dropped. At this time he is charged with two 3rd degree felony counts of battery on a school official. He is now home, tired and hungry. He is off getting ready for bed as I type. Tonight he begged me to never send him back to the school that does not understand him were there is no where safe for him to be. -- AutismOnTheGo. com -- AutismOnTheGo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 OMG...OMG...How horrible....awful! This has always been one of my greatest fears...and he was interested in everything ...goes to prove how innocent/nairve/immature our children are...he didn't even seem to understand what was happening to him. My heart goes out to you. The school sounds awful! I can't believe you were not allowed to talk to your son! and he is only 10. I will keep you in my prayers. Jan Janice Rushen "I will try to be open to all avenues of wisdom and hope" From: Hawk <hjhawk@...>Subject: ( ) Child with Autism Arrested Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 9:59 PM Well, today at 3:15pm I got the call I had been dreading since the last IEP. See, at the last IEP the principal basically threatened to have my son arrested. A note was even placed in his cumulative folder after I complained of restraint stating that there was zero tolerance toward him and suspension, police, etc were to be used. For the last few weeks I have refused to be any distance away from the school and have been at home with my cellphone at all times, even in the bathroom, knowing the call would come. Today it did.I got the call to come pick my son up at school as he was out of control. I grabbed his service dog and got in the car and we raced over. When I got there, the police were waiting. My 10 year old child with autism was handcuffed in the back of the patrol car. I could not go see him and could not talk to the school staff. They did hand me a letter stating he was suspended for 4 days. The police told me they were taking him to the assessment center and they would call me in a few hours.This evening I was able to pick him up after a few hours in the juvenile assessment center. Thankfully the officers were made aware of his disability and they placed him in a cell alone. He was fascinated when they took his fingerprints and smiled for his booking photo (you know cause you smile for all photos like mom says) and really does not understand what went on. The detention staff said he was a great kid and would recommend that charges be dropped. At this time he is charged with two 3rd degree felony counts of battery on a school official. He is now home, tired and hungry. He is off getting ready for bed as I type. Tonight he begged me to never send him back to the school that does not understand him were there is no where safe for him to be. -- AutismOnTheGo. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 He is now home. We are working with the advocacy center. He goes to court in March to face felony charges for battery on a school officialTop News Story http://www.nbc-2.com/index.shtml Warning, some not so nice commentshttp://news-press.com/article/20090213/NEWS0101/90213056/1075 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29188424/On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:46 PM, rushen janice <jrushen@...> wrote: OMG...OMG...How horrible....awful! This has always been one of my greatest fears...and he was interested in everything ...goes to prove how innocent/nairve/immature our children are...he didn't even seem to understand what was happening to him. My heart goes out to you. The school sounds awful! I can't believe you were not allowed to talk to your son! and he is only 10. I will keep you in my prayers. Jan Janice Rushen " I will try to be open to all avenues of wisdom and hope " From: Hawk <hjhawk@...>Subject: ( ) Child with Autism Arrested Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 9:59 PM Well, today at 3:15pm I got the call I had been dreading since the last IEP. See, at the last IEP the principal basically threatened to have my son arrested. A note was even placed in his cumulative folder after I complained of restraint stating that there was zero tolerance toward him and suspension, police, etc were to be used. For the last few weeks I have refused to be any distance away from the school and have been at home with my cellphone at all times, even in the bathroom, knowing the call would come. Today it did. I got the call to come pick my son up at school as he was out of control. I grabbed his service dog and got in the car and we raced over. When I got there, the police were waiting. My 10 year old child with autism was handcuffed in the back of the patrol car. I could not go see him and could not talk to the school staff. They did hand me a letter stating he was suspended for 4 days. The police told me they were taking him to the assessment center and they would call me in a few hours.This evening I was able to pick him up after a few hours in the juvenile assessment center. Thankfully the officers were made aware of his disability and they placed him in a cell alone. He was fascinated when they took his fingerprints and smiled for his booking photo (you know cause you smile for all photos like mom says) and really does not understand what went on. The detention staff said he was a great kid and would recommend that charges be dropped. At this time he is charged with two 3rd degree felony counts of battery on a school official. He is now home, tired and hungry. He is off getting ready for bed as I type. Tonight he begged me to never send him back to the school that does not understand him were there is no where safe for him to be. -- AutismOnTheGo. com -- AutismOnTheGo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Oh god, , I'm so sorry to hear this. I am so afraid it will happen to mine some day. In Texas I believe there is a good chance it would have. They sent him to the " behavior school " once while we were in Texas. He was SEVEN. He pushed a chair into the back of his teacher's legs. At the behavior school it was a lockdown thing. It's for kids who bring drugs and weapons to school. They had so upset that he was throwing tantrums and hitting and kicking and biting every day so they sent him to special programs. He was supposed to go to school there for 10 days but I took him out when I felt it became abusive. He was restrained on the floor for not asking to go to the bathroom. They ignored him when he said his foot hurt and sent a snotty note home about him not cooperating. He had a huge plantar wart in the ball of his foot. Nobody checked. I've had plantar wards. They can be very painful. The wart grows in instead of being a bump that sticks out. In Texas the " age of reason " is considered to be 10. We moved to New Hampshire 4 months before 's 11th birthday. I do not have the same fears here that I had in Texas. They seem to know what they're doing here! Miriam > > Well, today at 3:15pm I got the call I had been dreading since the last IEP. > See, at the last IEP the principal basically threatened to have my son > arrested. A note was even placed in his cumulative folder after I complained > of restraint stating that there was zero tolerance toward him and > suspension, police, etc were to be used. For the last few weeks I have > refused to be any distance away from the school and have been at home with > my cellphone at all times, even in the bathroom, knowing the call would > come. Today it did. > > I got the call to come pick my son up at school as he was out of control. I > grabbed his service dog and got in the car and we raced over. When I got > there, the police were waiting. My 10 year old child with autism was > handcuffed in the back of the patrol car. I could not go see him and could > not talk to the school staff. They did hand me a letter stating he was > suspended for 4 days. The police told me they were taking him to the > assessment center and they would call me in a few hours. > > This evening I was able to pick him up after a few hours in the juvenile > assessment center. Thankfully the officers were made aware of his disability > and they placed him in a cell alone. He was fascinated when they took his > fingerprints and smiled for his booking photo (you know cause you smile for > all photos like mom says) and really does not understand what went on. The > detention staff said he was a great kid and would recommend that charges be > dropped. At this time he is charged with two 3rd degree felony counts of > battery on a school official. > > He is now home, tired and hungry. He is off getting ready for bed as I type. > Tonight he begged me to never send him back to the school that does not > understand him were there is no where safe for him to be. > > -- > > AutismOnTheGo.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 You definitely cannot send him back to that school. RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else... ( ) Child with Autism Arrested Well, today at 3:15pm I got the call I had been dreading since the last IEP. See, at the last IEP the principal basically threatened to have my son arrested. A note was even placed in his cumulative folder after I complained of restraint stating that there was zero tolerance toward him and suspension, police, etc were to be used. For the last few weeks I have refused to be any distance away from the school and have been at home with my cellphone at all times, even in the bathroom, knowing the call would come. Today it did.I got the call to come pick my son up at school as he was out of control. I grabbed his service dog and got in the car and we raced over. When I got there, the police were waiting. My 10 year old child with autism was handcuffed in the back of the patrol car. I could not go see him and could not talk to the school staff. They did hand me a letter stating he was suspended for 4 days. The police told me they were taking him to the assessment center and they would call me in a few hours.This evening I was able to pick him up after a few hours in the juvenile assessment center. Thankfully the officers were made aware of his disability and they placed him in a cell alone. He was fascinated when they took his fingerprints and smiled for his booking photo (you know cause you smile for all photos like mom says) and really does not understand what went on. The detention staff said he was a great kid and would recommend that charges be dropped. At this time he is charged with two 3rd degree felony counts of battery on a school official. He is now home, tired and hungry. He is off getting ready for bed as I type. Tonight he begged me to never send him back to the school that does not understand him were there is no where safe for him to be. -- AutismOnTheGo.com No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 02/13/09 06:51:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 I wanted to reply to some of those terrible comments. Autistic children have DIED in the hands of people like these. One child died in his church when the pastor tried to CURE him by restraining him. I think he was tied up on the floor. I can't remember exactly what heppened but I think it was his frantic fighting to get out of the restraints that ended up killing him. He was probably so frightened. A body slam would be likely to do the same kind of thing. UGH. People are so stupid. We encountered someone like this at a hotel. The clerk argued with my son about the no pets policy (they'd already agreed to let us stay). I kept trying to educate her but she got nastier and nastier. She claims said a bad word. I wouldn't put it past him. But her comment was, " He gotta learn some time. " We had another problem with a police office in Plano, TX. He was a security guard at the courthouse. I was there to deal with a traffic ticket. politely asked the clerk who was working with me if he could sit on the stairs. She said yes. Then the guard told him to move. He was only 7 at the time. He was very confused. The guy saw me RACING to get there in time to fix the problem but he chose to grab and bodily MOVE him from the stairs. I told him, has autism, he doesn't understand you! " The guy said, " He has to learn SOME TIME! " I made sure his superiors knew and they made him take the sensitivity training all over again. A child was shot and killed in plano a while back by a police officer who didn't understand autistic kids. New training was started at that time and the security guard had that training. He obviously needed to go through it again. The Autism Society of Collin County was founded as a result. AGG. I'm always having to educate people. Mostly, I don't mind. I sttart the education process as soon as people meet my son. Some day, though, he'll be away from me more and I won't be there to protect him as much. So far things have been really good since we moved to New Hampshire. Everyone here is pretty well educated about autism. The school has it's own Special Olympics team! YAY! I really do miss my wonderful friends in Texas. I wish I could pay for all the ones who are struggling to come and live up here. Other school districts might not be as good as the one we're in, though. Miriam > > He is now home. We are working with the advocacy center. He goes to court in > March to face felony charges for battery on a school official > > Top News Story > http://www.nbc-2.com/index.shtml > > > Warning, some not so nice comments > http://news-press.com/article/20090213/NEWS0101/90213056/1075 > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29188424/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Yes, please keep us posted. Are you going to send him back to that school? I can't imagine what school must be like for him and how awful it must be for you, too. A big hug to you both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 So glad to hear that you are looking for a different school for your son. Autism is not a crime and your son should not have been arrested. Get a lawyer to help you get private school placement (and maybe to scare your old school into changing its ways). Look for a school that really has experience helping AS kids and that will accomodate him. My son goes to a private school for AS kids and he has never been happier in his life. He feels safe, he has friends, his grades are good (finally), he is being intellectually challenged in his classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Don't send him back. Hear his pleas. pj From: Hawk <hjhawk@...> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:51:09 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Child with Autism Arrested He is now home. We are working with the advocacy center. He goes to court in March to face felony charges for battery on a school official Top News Storyhttp://www.nbc- 2.com/index. shtml Warning, some not so nice commentshttp://news- press.com/ article/20090213 /NEWS0101/ 90213056/ 1075 http://www.msnbc. msn.com/id/ 29188424/ On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:46 PM, rushen janice <jrushen (DOT) com> wrote: OMG...OMG... How horrible.... awful! This has always been one of my greatest fears...and he was interested in everything ...goes to prove how innocent/nairve/ immature our children are...he didn't even seem to understand what was happening to him. My heart goes out to you. The school sounds awful! I can't believe you were not allowed to talk to your son! and he is only 10. I will keep you in my prayers. Jan Janice Rushen "I will try to be open to all avenues of wisdom and hope" From: Hawk <hjhawkgmail (DOT) com>Subject: ( ) Child with Autism Arrested Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 9:59 PM Well, today at 3:15pm I got the call I had been dreading since the last IEP. See, at the last IEP the principal basically threatened to have my son arrested. A note was even placed in his cumulative folder after I complained of restraint stating that there was zero tolerance toward him and suspension, police, etc were to be used. For the last few weeks I have refused to be any distance away from the school and have been at home with my cellphone at all times, even in the bathroom, knowing the call would come. Today it did.I got the call to come pick my son up at school as he was out of control. I grabbed his service dog and got in the car and we raced over. When I got there, the police were waiting. My 10 year old child with autism was handcuffed in the back of the patrol car. I could not go see him and could not talk to the school staff. They did hand me a letter stating he was suspended for 4 days. The police told me they were taking him to the assessment center and they would call me in a few hours.This evening I was able to pick him up after a few hours in the juvenile assessment center. Thankfully the officers were made aware of his disability and they placed him in a cell alone. He was fascinated when they took his fingerprints and smiled for his booking photo (you know cause you smile for all photos like mom says) and really does not understand what went on. The detention staff said he was a great kid and would recommend that charges be dropped. At this time he is charged with two 3rd degree felony counts of battery on a school official. He is now home, tired and hungry. He is off getting ready for bed as I type. Tonight he begged me to never send him back to the school that does not understand him were there is no where safe for him to be. -- AutismOnTheGo. com -- AutismOnTheGo. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 He will not go back. No way, nuh uh, no howOn Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Patti Journey <pjpoo78363@...> wrote: Don't send him back. Hear his pleas. pj -- AutismOnTheGo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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