Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 I wrote before about my horror story IEP and dreading going. Well, we've had a few meetings since then and I involved the Special Ed director and our local Child Advocacy program, although I did not have anyone attend the meetings. I thought we were moving in the right direction until I got a call from my son's priciapl (sandy)last Wed telling me how he is being deliberately disrespectful to his main teacher and that i could disagree with her terminology but that was that. I told her I disagreed and that the conversation was over. The next day ended up being a snow day with no school so it gave me a bit of time to cool off. We were supposed to have the 2nd part of his FBA. On Friday I sent a letter requesting an outside evaluation since the school still " does not see the Asperger's " and keep using that as an excuse to not give him what he needs. I then emailed the special ed director, Kim :Hi Kim. I just sent you a letter requesting an independent evaluation for Jayden. I am debating filing a complaint with the school board and the state but I am hoping it doesn't need to go that far. I got a phone call from Sandy Wednesday regarding Jayden. She accused him of being purposely disrespectful to Marie beacuse he does not have problems in Liz Zentii's class or in Mrs. Fluerry's. She told me I may disagree with her or not like her terminology but that's how she sees it. I disagree and I am beyond tired of trying to get through to her and Marie. It seems that only Tammy Horton and Beth Coyne understand anything about Aspergers. I don't care what they want to label it at school. What I do care about is Jayden getting the education he deserves. He will never get it without the people who are supposed to be teaching him having knowledge about what his problems are. I am again dreading meeting with the IEP team to finish Jayden's behavioral assessment Monday. If Sandy or Ceil refer to ADHD and why Jayden's problems are not what I say they are, I will leave and return with a lawyer. All the correspondence has already been sent to MPAS and it was recommended that I file complaints. I'd rather handle this without going to extremes. However, I no longer feel there is ANY excuse for ignorance on the part of several members of the IEP team. Maybe the evaluation filled out by Marie regarding Aspergers was not understood or she answered things without really observing. I don't know. What I do know is that the correspondence I keep getting from her and from Sandy can all be explained by the Aspergers. Several things came up at the last meeting that I was unaware of. He has been hiding under his desk after getting teased in class. He has sensory problems and needs to escape. It's fight or flight. That's what happened again Tuesday. He lost a game and had his typical Aperger's reaction of being overly upset about it. He was teased and ended up reacting by swinging the cushion from his chair around and then went under his desk. He strikes out and then retreats. He's overloaded from losing and then more so by being teased. To top it all off he was feeling it was very unfair (a HUGE problem for him...everything should be fair in his eyes) that those who were teasing and calling him names were not in trouble because he's gotten in trouble for the same thing. As for him not having the same problems with Liz or Mrs. Fluerry, I am guessing, because they've been teaching for so long, their classes run like a ship. He knows what's expected every day and the rules are set. That doesn't happen in Marie's room. Some days she writes for him, other days he does it himself. Some days she lets him do certain things and then on other days those aren't accepted. He will never function well without the routine and structure. I have provided a lot of information but it's either not read or not believed. I am frustrated and am hoping things improve soon. Thank you for your time. So, in response to this, she returned an email with the guidelines for the independent evaluation and said she would get me any addiotiona info I needed ubt also asked if I would be interested in a meeting with the Superintendent to let him in on what was going on. My son's IEP was not being followed which presents a major problem for them. LOL I agreed to a meeting with him and it was yesterday. It could not have gone better if I'd written a scrip for it because...he is in the process of convincing his daughter-in-law that his grandson has autism. The little bo is 3 1/2 and in a program for speech problems but Grnadpa knows it's more. The meltdowns, the sensory issues...he knew ALL about what I was describing in my son. He was very curious and asked questions that were so relevant. He wanted more information and told me everything would be done to help my son because he knew he was going to have to advocate for his grandson when he entered school. Before I left the meeting he told me that he'd be calling the principal before the meeting I had in the afternoon to finish the FBA and that she would either listen and accept his reasoning for believing the diagnosis for Jayden regardless of what her " test " told her or he'd force her to understand unwillingly but either way, it would no longer be a problem. He was true to his word. I've never seen such a change in attitude. It was such a nice feeling to know that someone was helping and cared what happened to my son...even if he did have another reason for it. The school social worker already had the behavior plan where it should have been anyway but it was nice to have something else to back it up. The principal did keep trying to find a way to bring the control abck to herself by having reasons to write Jayden up but the social worker shot her down every time explaining that the unwanted behavior should be controlled thus not having a need for write ups. If the tools put in place are used, it should not get to that extreme and asking why she was trying to turn something positive into having negative consequences. It was a wonderful day, his teacher has come a long way in the past month and a half and has become more educated. I'm such a happy mom! Keep fighting for your kids...at some point you will get the needed outcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 CONGRATULATIONS! I don't know if you've had this happen but I get so frustrated that people can't wrap their head around the fact that even though s understands right and wrong and is remorseful after the fact he just CANNOT stop himself when he is scared or frustrated. Like you said, its fight or flight. Regardless of what triggers it once he is in that mood he will lash out. It doesn't help that these kids are ofter quite intelligent in some areas and so people recognize the intelligence and can't understand how someone so bright can't control themselves. They can appear so " normal " on the surface and I think it is just easier to conclude that they are just badly parented or bad kids than to try to understand that their brains don't work properly. Vickie > > I wrote before about my horror story IEP and dreading going. Well, > we've had a few meetings since then and I involved the Special Ed > director and our local Child Advocacy program, although I did not > have anyone attend the meetings. I thought we were moving in the > right direction until I got a call from my son's priciapl (sandy) last > Wed telling me how he is being deliberately disrespectful to his main > teacher and that i could disagree with her terminology but that was > that. I told her I disagreed and that the conversation was over. > The next day ended up being a snow day with no school so it gave me a > bit of time to cool off. We were supposed to have the 2nd part of > his FBA. On Friday I sent a letter requesting an outside evaluation > since the school still " does not see the Asperger's " and keep using > that as an excuse to not give him what he needs. I then emailed the > special ed director, Kim :Hi Kim. I just sent you a letter > requesting an independent evaluation for Jayden. I am debating filing > a complaint with the school board and the state but I am hoping it > doesn't need to go that far. I got a phone call from Sandy Wednesday > regarding Jayden. She accused him of being purposely disrespectful > to Marie beacuse he does not have problems in Liz Zentii's class or > in Mrs. Fluerry's. She told me I may disagree with her or not like > her terminology but that's how she sees it. I disagree and I am > beyond tired of trying to get through to her and Marie. It seems > that only Tammy Horton and Beth Coyne understand anything about > Aspergers. I don't care what they want to label it at school. What > I do care about is Jayden getting the education he deserves. He will > never get it without the people who are supposed to be teaching him > having knowledge about what his problems are. I am again dreading > meeting with the IEP team to finish Jayden's behavioral assessment > Monday. If Sandy or Ceil refer to ADHD and why Jayden's problems are > not what I say they are, I will leave and return with a lawyer. All > the correspondence has already been sent to MPAS and it was > recommended that I file complaints. I'd rather handle this without > going to extremes. However, I no longer feel there is ANY excuse for > ignorance on the part of several members of the IEP team. Maybe the > evaluation filled out by Marie regarding Aspergers was not understood > or she answered things without really observing. I don't know. What > I do know is that the correspondence I keep getting from her and from > Sandy can all be explained by the Aspergers. Several things came up > at the last meeting that I was unaware of. He has been hiding under > his desk after getting teased in class. He has sensory problems and > needs to escape. It's fight or flight. That's what happened again > Tuesday. He lost a game and had his typical Aperger's reaction of > being overly upset about it. He was teased and ended up reacting by > swinging the cushion from his chair around and then went under his > desk. He strikes out and then retreats. He's overloaded from losing > and then more so by being teased. To top it all off he was feeling > it was very unfair (a HUGE problem for him...everything should be > fair in his eyes) that those who were teasing and calling him names > were not in trouble because he's gotten in trouble for the same > thing. As for him not having the same problems with Liz or Mrs. > Fluerry, I am guessing, because they've been teaching for so long, > their classes run like a ship. He knows what's expected every day > and the rules are set. That doesn't happen in Marie's room. Some > days she writes for him, other days he does it himself. Some days > she lets him do certain things and then on other days those aren't > accepted. He will never function well without the routine and > structure. I have provided a lot of information but it's either not > read or not believed. I am frustrated and am hoping things improve > soon. Thank you for your time. > So, in response to this, she returned an email with the guidelines > for the independent evaluation and said she would get me any > addiotiona info I needed ubt also asked if I would be interested in a > meeting with the Superintendent to let him in on what was going on. > My son's IEP was not being followed which presents a major problem > for them. LOL I agreed to a meeting with him and it was yesterday. > It could not have gone better if I'd written a scrip for it > because...he is in the process of convincing his daughter-in-law that > his grandson has autism. The little bo is 3 1/2 and in a program for > speech problems but Grnadpa knows it's more. The meltdowns, the > sensory issues...he knew ALL about what I was describing in my son. > He was very curious and asked questions that were so relevant. He > wanted more information and told me everything would be done to help > my son because he knew he was going to have to advocate for his > grandson when he entered school. Before I left the meeting he > told me that he'd be calling the principal before the meeting I had > in the afternoon to finish the FBA and that she would either listen > and accept his reasoning for believing the diagnosis for Jayden > regardless of what her " test " told her or he'd force her to > understand unwillingly but either way, it would no longer be a > problem. He was true to his word. I've never seen such a change in > attitude. It was such a nice feeling to know that someone was helping > and cared what happened to my son...even if he did have another > reason for it. The school social worker already had the behavior > plan where it should have been anyway but it was nice to have > something else to back it up. The principal did keep trying to find > a way to bring the control abck to herself by having reasons to write > Jayden up but the social worker shot her down every time explaining > that the unwanted behavior should be controlled thus not having a > need for write ups. If the tools put in place are used, it should > not get to that extreme and asking why she was trying to turn > something positive into having negative consequences. It was a > wonderful day, his teacher has come a long way in the past month and > a half and has become more educated. I'm such a happy mom! Keep > fighting for your kids...at some point you will get the needed > outcome! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Sorry, I had a misspeak their. I did NOT mean to say their brains don't work properly. I meant to say their brains don't work the same. Vickie > > > > I wrote before about my horror story IEP and dreading going. Well, > > we've had a few meetings since then and I involved the Special Ed > > director and our local Child Advocacy program, although I did not > > have anyone attend the meetings. I thought we were moving in the > > right direction until I got a call from my son's priciapl (sandy) > last > > Wed telling me how he is being deliberately disrespectful to his > main > > teacher and that i could disagree with her terminology but that was > > that. I told her I disagreed and that the conversation was over. > > The next day ended up being a snow day with no school so it gave me > a > > bit of time to cool off. We were supposed to have the 2nd part of > > his FBA. On Friday I sent a letter requesting an outside > evaluation > > since the school still " does not see the Asperger's " and keep using > > that as an excuse to not give him what he needs. I then emailed > the > > special ed director, Kim :Hi Kim. I just sent you a letter > > requesting an independent evaluation for Jayden. I am debating > filing > > a complaint with the school board and the state but I am hoping it > > doesn't need to go that far. I got a phone call from Sandy > Wednesday > > regarding Jayden. She accused him of being purposely disrespectful > > to Marie beacuse he does not have problems in Liz Zentii's class or > > in Mrs. Fluerry's. She told me I may disagree with her or not like > > her terminology but that's how she sees it. I disagree and I am > > beyond tired of trying to get through to her and Marie. It seems > > that only Tammy Horton and Beth Coyne understand anything > about > > Aspergers. I don't care what they want to label it at school. > What > > I do care about is Jayden getting the education he deserves. He > will > > never get it without the people who are supposed to be teaching him > > having knowledge about what his problems are. I am again dreading > > meeting with the IEP team to finish Jayden's behavioral assessment > > Monday. If Sandy or Ceil refer to ADHD and why Jayden's problems > are > > not what I say they are, I will leave and return with a lawyer. > All > > the correspondence has already been sent to MPAS and it was > > recommended that I file complaints. I'd rather handle this without > > going to extremes. However, I no longer feel there is ANY excuse > for > > ignorance on the part of several members of the IEP team. Maybe > the > > evaluation filled out by Marie regarding Aspergers was not > understood > > or she answered things without really observing. I don't know. > What > > I do know is that the correspondence I keep getting from her and > from > > Sandy can all be explained by the Aspergers. Several things came > up > > at the last meeting that I was unaware of. He has been hiding > under > > his desk after getting teased in class. He has sensory problems > and > > needs to escape. It's fight or flight. That's what happened again > > Tuesday. He lost a game and had his typical Aperger's reaction of > > being overly upset about it. He was teased and ended up reacting > by > > swinging the cushion from his chair around and then went under his > > desk. He strikes out and then retreats. He's overloaded from > losing > > and then more so by being teased. To top it all off he was feeling > > it was very unfair (a HUGE problem for him...everything should be > > fair in his eyes) that those who were teasing and calling him names > > were not in trouble because he's gotten in trouble for the same > > thing. As for him not having the same problems with Liz or Mrs. > > Fluerry, I am guessing, because they've been teaching for so long, > > their classes run like a ship. He knows what's expected every day > > and the rules are set. That doesn't happen in Marie's room. Some > > days she writes for him, other days he does it himself. Some days > > she lets him do certain things and then on other days those aren't > > accepted. He will never function well without the routine and > > structure. I have provided a lot of information but it's either > not > > read or not believed. I am frustrated and am hoping things improve > > soon. Thank you for your time. > > So, in response to this, she returned an email with the guidelines > > for the independent evaluation and said she would get me any > > addiotiona info I needed ubt also asked if I would be interested in > a > > meeting with the Superintendent to let him in on what was going on. > > My son's IEP was not being followed which presents a major problem > > for them. LOL I agreed to a meeting with him and it was > yesterday. > > It could not have gone better if I'd written a scrip for it > > because...he is in the process of convincing his daughter-in-law > that > > his grandson has autism. The little bo is 3 1/2 and in a program > for > > speech problems but Grnadpa knows it's more. The meltdowns, the > > sensory issues...he knew ALL about what I was describing in my > son. > > He was very curious and asked questions that were so relevant. He > > wanted more information and told me everything would be done to > help > > my son because he knew he was going to have to advocate for his > > grandson when he entered school. Before I left the meeting he > > told me that he'd be calling the principal before the meeting I had > > in the afternoon to finish the FBA and that she would either listen > > and accept his reasoning for believing the diagnosis for Jayden > > regardless of what her " test " told her or he'd force her to > > understand unwillingly but either way, it would no longer be a > > problem. He was true to his word. I've never seen such a change > in > > attitude. It was such a nice feeling to know that someone was > helping > > and cared what happened to my son...even if he did have another > > reason for it. The school social worker already had the behavior > > plan where it should have been anyway but it was nice to have > > something else to back it up. The principal did keep trying to > find > > a way to bring the control abck to herself by having reasons to > write > > Jayden up but the social worker shot her down every time explaining > > that the unwanted behavior should be controlled thus not having a > > need for write ups. If the tools put in place are used, it should > > not get to that extreme and asking why she was trying to turn > > something positive into having negative consequences. It was a > > wonderful day, his teacher has come a long way in the past month > and > > a half and has become more educated. I'm such a happy mom! Keep > > fighting for your kids...at some point you will get the needed > > outcome! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 I do have that happen...it's what was happening withe the principal. She's not dumb so why didn't she get it? I don't think she wanted to admit I was right. I had told her at the last meeting that we'd tried things her way for two years and it wasn't working so we were going to now try it my way. Insanity: doing things the exact same way yet expecting different results...yet our Aspie kids are the ones with problems? ugh From: Vickie Boehnlein <baneline1@...>Subject: ( ) Re: WONDERFUL SCHOOL MEETING! Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 2:08 PM Sorry, I had a misspeak their. I did NOT mean to say their brains don't work properly. I meant to say their brains don't work the same.Vickie> >> > I wrote before about my horror story IEP and dreading going. Well, > > we've had a few meetings since then and I involved the Special Ed > > director and our local Child Advocacy program, although I did not > > have anyone attend the meetings. I thought we were moving in the > > right direction until I got a call from my son's priciapl (sandy)> last > > Wed telling me how he is being deliberately disrespectful to his > main > > teacher and that i could disagree with her terminology but that was > > that. I told her I disagreed and that the conversation was over. > > The next day ended up being a snow day with no school so it gave me > a > > bit of time to cool off. We were supposed to have the 2nd part of > > his FBA. On Friday I sent a letter requesting an outside > evaluation > > since the school still "does not see the Asperger's" and keep using > > that as an excuse to not give him what he needs. I then emailed > the > > special ed director, Kim :Hi Kim. I just sent you a letter > > requesting an independent evaluation for Jayden. I am debating > filing > > a complaint with the school board and the state but I am hoping it > > doesn't need to go that far. I got a phone call from Sandy > Wednesday > > regarding Jayden. She accused him of being purposely disrespectful > > to Marie beacuse he does not have problems in Liz Zentii's class or > > in Mrs. Fluerry's. She told me I may disagree with her or not like > > her terminology but that's how she sees it. I disagree and I am > > beyond tired of trying to get through to her and Marie. It seems > > that only Tammy Horton and Beth Coyne understand anything > about > > Aspergers. I don't care what they want to label it at school. > What > > I do care about is Jayden getting the education he deserves. He > will > > never get it without the people who are supposed to be teaching him > > having knowledge about what his problems are. I am again dreading > > meeting with the IEP team to finish Jayden's behavioral assessment > > Monday. If Sandy or Ceil refer to ADHD and why Jayden's problems > are > > not what I say they are, I will leave and return with a lawyer. > All > > the correspondence has already been sent to MPAS and it was > > recommended that I file complaints. I'd rather handle this without > > going to extremes. However, I no longer feel there is ANY excuse > for > > ignorance on the part of several members of the IEP team. Maybe > the > > evaluation filled out by Marie regarding Aspergers was not > understood > > or she answered things without really observing. I don't know. > What > > I do know is that the correspondence I keep getting from her and > from > > Sandy can all be explained by the Aspergers. Several things came > up > > at the last meeting that I was unaware of. He has been hiding > under > > his desk after getting teased in class. He has sensory problems > and > > needs to escape. It's fight or flight. That's what happened again > > Tuesday. He lost a game and had his typical Aperger's reaction of > > being overly upset about it. He was teased and ended up reacting > by > > swinging the cushion from his chair around and then went under his > > desk. He strikes out and then retreats. He's overloaded from > losing > > and then more so by being teased. To top it all off he was feeling > > it was very unfair (a HUGE problem for him...everything should be > > fair in his eyes) that those who were teasing and calling him names > > were not in trouble because he's gotten in trouble for the same > > thing. As for him not having the same problems with Liz or Mrs. > > Fluerry, I am guessing, because they've been teaching for so long, > > their classes run like a ship. He knows what's expected every day > > and the rules are set. That doesn't happen in Marie's room. Some > > days she writes for him, other days he does it himself. Some days > > she lets him do certain things and then on other days those aren't > > accepted. He will never function well without the routine and > > structure. I have provided a lot of information but it's either > not > > read or not believed. I am frustrated and am hoping things improve > > soon. Thank you for your time.> > So, in response to this, she returned an email with the guidelines > > for the independent evaluation and said she would get me any > > addiotiona info I needed ubt also asked if I would be interested in > a > > meeting with the Superintendent to let him in on what was going on. > > My son's IEP was not being followed which presents a major problem > > for them. LOL I agreed to a meeting with him and it was > yesterday. > > It could not have gone better if I'd written a scrip for it > > because...he is in the process of convincing his daughter-in- law > that > > his grandson has autism. The little bo is 3 1/2 and in a program > for > > speech problems but Grnadpa knows it's more. The meltdowns, the > > sensory issues...he knew ALL about what I was describing in my > son. > > He was very curious and asked questions that were so relevant. He > > wanted more information and told me everything would be done to > help > > my son because he knew he was going to have to advocate for his > > grandson when he entered school. Before I left the meeting he > > told me that he'd be calling the principal before the meeting I had > > in the afternoon to finish the FBA and that she would either listen > > and accept his reasoning for believing the diagnosis for Jayden > > regardless of what her "test" told her or he'd force her to > > understand unwillingly but either way, it would no longer be a > > problem. He was true to his word. I've never seen such a change > in > > attitude. It was such a nice feeling to know that someone was > helping > > and cared what happened to my son...even if he did have another > > reason for it. The school social worker already had the behavior > > plan where it should have been anyway but it was nice to have > > something else to back it up. The principal did keep trying to > find > > a way to bring the control abck to herself by having reasons to > write > > Jayden up but the social worker shot her down every time explaining > > that the unwanted behavior should be controlled thus not having a > > need for write ups. If the tools put in place are used, it should > > not get to that extreme and asking why she was trying to turn > > something positive into having negative consequences. It was a > > wonderful day, his teacher has come a long way in the past month > and > > a half and has become more educated. I'm such a happy mom! Keep > > fighting for your kids...at some point you will get the needed > > outcome!> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 I can say my son (12) is impulsive with how he reacts in situations, but he is learning to stop and think in some situations. Those instances are growing in leaps and bounds. He can often see he maybe didn't handle it the right way after the fact and he tries to learn from that for future situations. It seems like the time between his reaction and realization of his error is getting shorter the older he gets. He still sabotages himself (unintentially, of course) in social situations with peers, but it seems he's learning quicker what to do (or not do) the next time. If I could wish anything for him, I'd wish for him to have one good friend that got him. His best friend moved to Phoenix last summer and we haven't found a replacement yet. He's such a good, loyal kid with his head on straight...he makes a great friend. "Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out." From: Vickie Boehnlein <baneline1@...> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:56:07 PMSubject: ( ) Re: WONDERFUL SCHOOL MEETING! CONGRATULATIONS! I don't know if you've had this happen but I get so frustrated that people can't wrap their head around the fact that even though s understands right and wrong and is remorseful after the fact he just CANNOT stop himself when he is scared or frustrated. Like you said, its fight or flight. Regardless of what triggers it once he is in that mood he will lash out. It doesn't help that these kids are ofter quite intelligent in some areas and so people recognize the intelligence and can't understand how someone so bright can't control themselves. They can appear so "normal" on the surface and I think it is just easier to conclude that they are just badly parented or bad kids than to try to understand that their brains don't work properly.Vickie>> I wrote before about my horror story IEP and dreading going. Well, > we've had a few meetings since then and I involved the Special Ed > director and our local Child Advocacy program, although I did not > have anyone attend the meetings. I thought we were moving in the > right direction until I got a call from my son's priciapl (sandy)last > Wed telling me how he is being deliberately disrespectful to his main > teacher and that i could disagree with her terminology but that was > that. I told her I disagreed and that the conversation was over. > The next day ended up being a snow day with no school so it gave me a > bit of time to cool off. We were supposed to have the 2nd part of > his FBA. On Friday I sent a letter requesting an outside evaluation > since the school still "does not see the Asperger's" and keep using > that as an excuse to not give him what he needs. I then emailed the > special ed director, Kim :Hi Kim. I just sent you a letter > requesting an independent evaluation for Jayden. I am debating filing > a complaint with the school board and the state but I am hoping it > doesn't need to go that far. I got a phone call from Sandy Wednesday > regarding Jayden. She accused him of being purposely disrespectful > to Marie beacuse he does not have problems in Liz Zentii's class or > in Mrs. Fluerry's. She told me I may disagree with her or not like > her terminology but that's how she sees it. I disagree and I am > beyond tired of trying to get through to her and Marie. It seems > that only Tammy Horton and Beth Coyne understand anything about > Aspergers. I don't care what they want to label it at school. What > I do care about is Jayden getting the education he deserves. He will > never get it without the people who are supposed to be teaching him > having knowledge about what his problems are. I am again dreading > meeting with the IEP team to finish Jayden's behavioral assessment > Monday. If Sandy or Ceil refer to ADHD and why Jayden's problems are > not what I say they are, I will leave and return with a lawyer. All > the correspondence has already been sent to MPAS and it was > recommended that I file complaints. I'd rather handle this without > going to extremes. However, I no longer feel there is ANY excuse for > ignorance on the part of several members of the IEP team. Maybe the > evaluation filled out by Marie regarding Aspergers was not understood > or she answered things without really observing. I don't know. What > I do know is that the correspondence I keep getting from her and from > Sandy can all be explained by the Aspergers. Several things came up > at the last meeting that I was unaware of. He has been hiding under > his desk after getting teased in class. He has sensory problems and > needs to escape. It's fight or flight. That's what happened again > Tuesday. He lost a game and had his typical Aperger's reaction of > being overly upset about it. He was teased and ended up reacting by > swinging the cushion from his chair around and then went under his > desk. He strikes out and then retreats. He's overloaded from losing > and then more so by being teased. To top it all off he was feeling > it was very unfair (a HUGE problem for him...everything should be > fair in his eyes) that those who were teasing and calling him names > were not in trouble because he's gotten in trouble for the same > thing. As for him not having the same problems with Liz or Mrs. > Fluerry, I am guessing, because they've been teaching for so long, > their classes run like a ship. He knows what's expected every day > and the rules are set. That doesn't happen in Marie's room. Some > days she writes for him, other days he does it himself. Some days > she lets him do certain things and then on other days those aren't > accepted. He will never function well without the routine and > structure. I have provided a lot of information but it's either not > read or not believed. I am frustrated and am hoping things improve > soon. Thank you for your time.> So, in response to this, she returned an email with the guidelines > for the independent evaluation and said she would get me any > addiotiona info I needed ubt also asked if I would be interested in a > meeting with the Superintendent to let him in on what was going on. > My son's IEP was not being followed which presents a major problem > for them. LOL I agreed to a meeting with him and it was yesterday. > It could not have gone better if I'd written a scrip for it > because...he is in the process of convincing his daughter-in- law that > his grandson has autism. The little bo is 3 1/2 and in a program for > speech problems but Grnadpa knows it's more. The meltdowns, the > sensory issues...he knew ALL about what I was describing in my son. > He was very curious and asked questions that were so relevant. He > wanted more information and told me everything would be done to help > my son because he knew he was going to have to advocate for his > grandson when he entered school. Before I left the meeting he > told me that he'd be calling the principal before the meeting I had > in the afternoon to finish the FBA and that she would either listen > and accept his reasoning for believing the diagnosis for Jayden > regardless of what her "test" told her or he'd force her to > understand unwillingly but either way, it would no longer be a > problem. He was true to his word. I've never seen such a change in > attitude. It was such a nice feeling to know that someone was helping > and cared what happened to my son...even if he did have another > reason for it. The school social worker already had the behavior > plan where it should have been anyway but it was nice to have > something else to back it up. The principal did keep trying to find > a way to bring the control abck to herself by having reasons to write > Jayden up but the social worker shot her down every time explaining > that the unwanted behavior should be controlled thus not having a > need for write ups. If the tools put in place are used, it should > not get to that extreme and asking why she was trying to turn > something positive into having negative consequences. It was a > wonderful day, his teacher has come a long way in the past month and > a half and has become more educated. I'm such a happy mom! Keep > fighting for your kids...at some point you will get the needed > outcome!> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 My son has a friend that seems to put up with anything and he is supposed to be moving soon. It will be a sad, sad day. From: MacAllister <smacalli@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Re: WONDERFUL SCHOOL MEETING! Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 2:46 PM I can say my son (12) is impulsive with how he reacts in situations, but he is learning to stop and think in some situations. Those instances are growing in leaps and bounds. He can often see he maybe didn't handle it the right way after the fact and he tries to learn from that for future situations. It seems like the time between his reaction and realization of his error is getting shorter the older he gets. He still sabotages himself (unintentially, of course) in social situations with peers, but it seems he's learning quicker what to do (or not do) the next time. If I could wish anything for him, I'd wish for him to have one good friend that got him. His best friend moved to Phoenix last summer and we haven't found a replacement yet. He's such a good, loyal kid with his head on straight...he makes a great friend. "Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out." From: Vickie Boehnlein <baneline1msn (DOT) com> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:56:07 PMSubject: ( ) Re: WONDERFUL SCHOOL MEETING! CONGRATULATIONS! I don't know if you've had this happen but I get so frustrated that people can't wrap their head around the fact that even though s understands right and wrong and is remorseful after the fact he just CANNOT stop himself when he is scared or frustrated. Like you said, its fight or flight. Regardless of what triggers it once he is in that mood he will lash out. It doesn't help that these kids are ofter quite intelligent in some areas and so people recognize the intelligence and can't understand how someone so bright can't control themselves. They can appear so "normal" on the surface and I think it is just easier to conclude that they are just badly parented or bad kids than to try to understand that their brains don't work properly.Vickie>> I wrote before about my horror story IEP and dreading going. Well, > we've had a few meetings since then and I involved the Special Ed > director and our local Child Advocacy program, although I did not > have anyone attend the meetings. I thought we were moving in the > right direction until I got a call from my son's priciapl (sandy)last > Wed telling me how he is being deliberately disrespectful to his main > teacher and that i could disagree with her terminology but that was > that. I told her I disagreed and that the conversation was over. > The next day ended up being a snow day with no school so it gave me a > bit of time to cool off. We were supposed to have the 2nd part of > his FBA. On Friday I sent a letter requesting an outside evaluation > since the school still "does not see the Asperger's" and keep using > that as an excuse to not give him what he needs. I then emailed the > special ed director, Kim :Hi Kim. I just sent you a letter > requesting an independent evaluation for Jayden. I am debating filing > a complaint with the school board and the state but I am hoping it > doesn't need to go that far. I got a phone call from Sandy Wednesday > regarding Jayden. She accused him of being purposely disrespectful > to Marie beacuse he does not have problems in Liz Zentii's class or > in Mrs. Fluerry's. She told me I may disagree with her or not like > her terminology but that's how she sees it. I disagree and I am > beyond tired of trying to get through to her and Marie. It seems > that only Tammy Horton and Beth Coyne understand anything about > Aspergers. I don't care what they want to label it at school. What > I do care about is Jayden getting the education he deserves. He will > never get it without the people who are supposed to be teaching him > having knowledge about what his problems are. I am again dreading > meeting with the IEP team to finish Jayden's behavioral assessment > Monday. If Sandy or Ceil refer to ADHD and why Jayden's problems are > not what I say they are, I will leave and return with a lawyer. All > the correspondence has already been sent to MPAS and it was > recommended that I file complaints. I'd rather handle this without > going to extremes. However, I no longer feel there is ANY excuse for > ignorance on the part of several members of the IEP team. Maybe the > evaluation filled out by Marie regarding Aspergers was not understood > or she answered things without really observing. I don't know. What > I do know is that the correspondence I keep getting from her and from > Sandy can all be explained by the Aspergers. Several things came up > at the last meeting that I was unaware of. He has been hiding under > his desk after getting teased in class. He has sensory problems and > needs to escape. It's fight or flight. That's what happened again > Tuesday. He lost a game and had his typical Aperger's reaction of > being overly upset about it. He was teased and ended up reacting by > swinging the cushion from his chair around and then went under his > desk. He strikes out and then retreats. He's overloaded from losing > and then more so by being teased. To top it all off he was feeling > it was very unfair (a HUGE problem for him...everything should be > fair in his eyes) that those who were teasing and calling him names > were not in trouble because he's gotten in trouble for the same > thing. As for him not having the same problems with Liz or Mrs. > Fluerry, I am guessing, because they've been teaching for so long, > their classes run like a ship. He knows what's expected every day > and the rules are set. That doesn't happen in Marie's room. Some > days she writes for him, other days he does it himself. Some days > she lets him do certain things and then on other days those aren't > accepted. He will never function well without the routine and > structure. I have provided a lot of information but it's either not > read or not believed. I am frustrated and am hoping things improve > soon. Thank you for your time.> So, in response to this, she returned an email with the guidelines > for the independent evaluation and said she would get me any > addiotiona info I needed ubt also asked if I would be interested in a > meeting with the Superintendent to let him in on what was going on. > My son's IEP was not being followed which presents a major problem > for them. LOL I agreed to a meeting with him and it was yesterday. > It could not have gone better if I'd written a scrip for it > because...he is in the process of convincing his daughter-in- law that > his grandson has autism. The little bo is 3 1/2 and in a program for > speech problems but Grnadpa knows it's more. The meltdowns, the > sensory issues...he knew ALL about what I was describing in my son. > He was very curious and asked questions that were so relevant. He > wanted more information and told me everything would be done to help > my son because he knew he was going to have to advocate for his > grandson when he entered school. Before I left the meeting he > told me that he'd be calling the principal before the meeting I had > in the afternoon to finish the FBA and that she would either listen > and accept his reasoning for believing the diagnosis for Jayden > regardless of what her "test" told her or he'd force her to > understand unwillingly but either way, it would no longer be a > problem. He was true to his word. I've never seen such a change in > attitude. It was such a nice feeling to know that someone was helping > and cared what happened to my son...even if he did have another > reason for it. The school social worker already had the behavior > plan where it should have been anyway but it was nice to have > something else to back it up. The principal did keep trying to find > a way to bring the control abck to herself by having reasons to write > Jayden up but the social worker shot her down every time explaining > that the unwanted behavior should be controlled thus not having a > need for write ups. If the tools put in place are used, it should > not get to that extreme and asking why she was trying to turn > something positive into having negative consequences. It was a > wonderful day, his teacher has come a long way in the past month and > a half and has become more educated. I'm such a happy mom! Keep > fighting for your kids...at some point you will get the needed > outcome!> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Hi Wind. I'm curious, where in the UP are you? I live in Wisconsin just a little south of Green Bay. Vickie > > > > > > I wrote before about my horror story IEP and dreading going. > Well, > > > we've had a few meetings since then and I involved the Special Ed > > > director and our local Child Advocacy program, although I did not > > > have anyone attend the meetings. I thought we were moving in the > > > right direction until I got a call from my son's priciapl (sandy) > > last > > > Wed telling me how he is being deliberately disrespectful to his > > main > > > teacher and that i could disagree with her terminology but that > was > > > that. I told her I disagreed and that the conversation was > over. > > > The next day ended up being a snow day with no school so it gave > me > > a > > > bit of time to cool off. We were supposed to have the 2nd part > of > > > his FBA. On Friday I sent a letter requesting an outside > > evaluation > > > since the school still " does not see the Asperger's " and keep > using > > > that as an excuse to not give him what he needs. I then emailed > > the > > > special ed director, Kim :Hi Kim. I just sent you a letter > > > requesting an independent evaluation for Jayden. I am debating > > filing > > > a complaint with the school board and the state but I am hoping > it > > > doesn't need to go that far. I got a phone call from Sandy > > Wednesday > > > regarding Jayden. She accused him of being purposely > disrespectful > > > to Marie beacuse he does not have problems in Liz Zentii's class > or > > > in Mrs. Fluerry's. She told me I may disagree with her or not > like > > > her terminology but that's how she sees it. I disagree and I am > > > beyond tired of trying to get through to her and Marie. It seems > > > that only Tammy Horton and Beth Coyne understand anything > > about > > > Aspergers. I don't care what they want to label it at school. > > What > > > I do care about is Jayden getting the education he deserves. He > > will > > > never get it without the people who are supposed to be teaching > him > > > having knowledge about what his problems are. I am again > dreading > > > meeting with the IEP team to finish Jayden's behavioral > assessment > > > Monday. If Sandy or Ceil refer to ADHD and why Jayden's problems > > are > > > not what I say they are, I will leave and return with a lawyer. > > All > > > the correspondence has already been sent to MPAS and it was > > > recommended that I file complaints. I'd rather handle this > without > > > going to extremes. However, I no longer feel there is ANY excuse > > for > > > ignorance on the part of several members of the IEP team. Maybe > > the > > > evaluation filled out by Marie regarding Aspergers was not > > understood > > > or she answered things without really observing. I don't know. > > What > > > I do know is that the correspondence I keep getting from her and > > from > > > Sandy can all be explained by the Aspergers. Several things came > > up > > > at the last meeting that I was unaware of. He has been hiding > > under > > > his desk after getting teased in class. He has sensory problems > > and > > > needs to escape. It's fight or flight. That's what happened > again > > > Tuesday. He lost a game and had his typical Aperger's reaction > of > > > being overly upset about it. He was teased and ended up reacting > > by > > > swinging the cushion from his chair around and then went under > his > > > desk. He strikes out and then retreats. He's overloaded from > > losing > > > and then more so by being teased. To top it all off he was > feeling > > > it was very unfair (a HUGE problem for him...everything should be > > > fair in his eyes) that those who were teasing and calling him > names > > > were not in trouble because he's gotten in trouble for the same > > > thing. As for him not having the same problems with Liz or Mrs. > > > Fluerry, I am guessing, because they've been teaching for so > long, > > > their classes run like a ship. He knows what's expected every > day > > > and the rules are set. That doesn't happen in Marie's room. > Some > > > days she writes for him, other days he does it himself. Some > days > > > she lets him do certain things and then on other days those > aren't > > > accepted. He will never function well without the routine and > > > structure. I have provided a lot of information but it's either > > not > > > read or not believed. I am frustrated and am hoping things > improve > > > soon. Thank you for your time. > > > So, in response to this, she returned an email with the > guidelines > > > for the independent evaluation and said she would get me any > > > addiotiona info I needed ubt also asked if I would be interested > in > > a > > > meeting with the Superintendent to let him in on what was going > on. > > > My son's IEP was not being followed which presents a major > problem > > > for them. LOL I agreed to a meeting with him and it was > > yesterday. > > > It could not have gone better if I'd written a scrip for it > > > because...he is in the process of convincing his daughter-in- law > > that > > > his grandson has autism. The little bo is 3 1/2 and in a program > > for > > > speech problems but Grnadpa knows it's more. The meltdowns, the > > > sensory issues...he knew ALL about what I was describing in my > > son. > > > He was very curious and asked questions that were so relevant. > He > > > wanted more information and told me everything would be done to > > help > > > my son because he knew he was going to have to advocate for his > > > grandson when he entered school. Before I left the meeting > he > > > told me that he'd be calling the principal before the meeting I > had > > > in the afternoon to finish the FBA and that she would either > listen > > > and accept his reasoning for believing the diagnosis for Jayden > > > regardless of what her " test " told her or he'd force her to > > > understand unwillingly but either way, it would no longer be a > > > problem. He was true to his word. I've never seen such a change > > in > > > attitude. It was such a nice feeling to know that someone was > > helping > > > and cared what happened to my son...even if he did have another > > > reason for it. The school social worker already had the behavior > > > plan where it should have been anyway but it was nice to have > > > something else to back it up. The principal did keep trying to > > find > > > a way to bring the control abck to herself by having reasons to > > write > > > Jayden up but the social worker shot her down every time > explaining > > > that the unwanted behavior should be controlled thus not having a > > > need for write ups. If the tools put in place are used, it > should > > > not get to that extreme and asking why she was trying to turn > > > something positive into having negative consequences. It was a > > > wonderful day, his teacher has come a long way in the past month > > and > > > a half and has become more educated. I'm such a happy mom! Keep > > > fighting for your kids...at some point you will get the needed > > > outcome! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Hey Vickie. We're in Gwinn, near Marquette. We were just in Green Bay for Disney on Ice with my 3 year old. From: Vickie Boehnlein <baneline1@...>Subject: ( ) Re: WONDERFUL SCHOOL MEETING! Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 3:15 PM Hi Wind. I'm curious, where in the UP are you? I live in Wisconsin just a little south of Green Bay. Vickie> > >> > > I wrote before about my horror story IEP and dreading going. > Well, > > > we've had a few meetings since then and I involved the Special Ed > > > director and our local Child Advocacy program, although I did not > > > have anyone attend the meetings. I thought we were moving in the > > > right direction until I got a call from my son's priciapl (sandy)> > last > > > Wed telling me how he is being deliberately disrespectful to his > > main > > > teacher and that i could disagree with her terminology but that > was > > > that. I told her I disagreed and that the conversation was > over. > > > The next day ended up being a snow day with no school so it gave > me > > a > > > bit of time to cool off. We were supposed to have the 2nd part > of > > > his FBA. On Friday I sent a letter requesting an outside > > evaluation > > > since the school still "does not see the Asperger's" and keep > using > > > that as an excuse to not give him what he needs. I then emailed > > the > > > special ed director, Kim :Hi Kim. I just sent you a letter > > > requesting an independent evaluation for Jayden. I am debating > > filing > > > a complaint with the school board and the state but I am hoping > it > > > doesn't need to go that far. I got a phone call from Sandy > > Wednesday > > > regarding Jayden. She accused him of being purposely > disrespectful > > > to Marie beacuse he does not have problems in Liz Zentii's class > or > > > in Mrs. Fluerry's. She told me I may disagree with her or not > like > > > her terminology but that's how she sees it. I disagree and I am > > > beyond tired of trying to get through to her and Marie. It seems > > > that only Tammy Horton and Beth Coyne understand anything > > about > > > Aspergers. I don't care what they want to label it at school. > > What > > > I do care about is Jayden getting the education he deserves. He > > will > > > never get it without the people who are supposed to be teaching > him > > > having knowledge about what his problems are. I am again > dreading > > > meeting with the IEP team to finish Jayden's behavioral > assessment > > > Monday. If Sandy or Ceil refer to ADHD and why Jayden's problems > > are > > > not what I say they are, I will leave and return with a lawyer. > > All > > > the correspondence has already been sent to MPAS and it was > > > recommended that I file complaints. I'd rather handle this > without > > > going to extremes. However, I no longer feel there is ANY excuse > > for > > > ignorance on the part of several members of the IEP team. Maybe > > the > > > evaluation filled out by Marie regarding Aspergers was not > > understood > > > or she answered things without really observing. I don't know. > > What > > > I do know is that the correspondence I keep getting from her and > > from > > > Sandy can all be explained by the Aspergers. Several things came > > up > > > at the last meeting that I was unaware of. He has been hiding > > under > > > his desk after getting teased in class. He has sensory problems > > and > > > needs to escape. It's fight or flight. That's what happened > again > > > Tuesday. He lost a game and had his typical Aperger's reaction > of > > > being overly upset about it. He was teased and ended up reacting > > by > > > swinging the cushion from his chair around and then went under > his > > > desk. He strikes out and then retreats. He's overloaded from > > losing > > > and then more so by being teased. To top it all off he was > feeling > > > it was very unfair (a HUGE problem for him...everything should be > > > fair in his eyes) that those who were teasing and calling him > names > > > were not in trouble because he's gotten in trouble for the same > > > thing. As for him not having the same problems with Liz or Mrs. > > > Fluerry, I am guessing, because they've been teaching for so > long, > > > their classes run like a ship. He knows what's expected every > day > > > and the rules are set. That doesn't happen in Marie's room. > Some > > > days she writes for him, other days he does it himself. Some > days > > > she lets him do certain things and then on other days those > aren't > > > accepted. He will never function well without the routine and > > > structure. I have provided a lot of information but it's either > > not > > > read or not believed. I am frustrated and am hoping things > improve > > > soon. Thank you for your time.> > > So, in response to this, she returned an email with the > guidelines > > > for the independent evaluation and said she would get me any > > > addiotiona info I needed ubt also asked if I would be interested > in > > a > > > meeting with the Superintendent to let him in on what was going > on. > > > My son's IEP was not being followed which presents a major > problem > > > for them. LOL I agreed to a meeting with him and it was > > yesterday. > > > It could not have gone better if I'd written a scrip for it > > > because...he is in the process of convincing his daughter-in- law > > that > > > his grandson has autism. The little bo is 3 1/2 and in a program > > for > > > speech problems but Grnadpa knows it's more. The meltdowns, the > > > sensory issues...he knew ALL about what I was describing in my > > son. > > > He was very curious and asked questions that were so relevant. > He > > > wanted more information and told me everything would be done to > > help > > > my son because he knew he was going to have to advocate for his > > > grandson when he entered school. Before I left the meeting > he > > > told me that he'd be calling the principal before the meeting I > had > > > in the afternoon to finish the FBA and that she would either > listen > > > and accept his reasoning for believing the diagnosis for Jayden > > > regardless of what her "test" told her or he'd force her to > > > understand unwillingly but either way, it would no longer be a > > > problem. He was true to his word. I've never seen such a change > > in > > > attitude. It was such a nice feeling to know that someone was > > helping > > > and cared what happened to my son...even if he did have another > > > reason for it. The school social worker already had the behavior > > > plan where it should have been anyway but it was nice to have > > > something else to back it up. The principal did keep trying to > > find > > > a way to bring the control abck to herself by having reasons to > > write > > > Jayden up but the social worker shot her down every time > explaining > > > that the unwanted behavior should be controlled thus not having a > > > need for write ups. If the tools put in place are used, it > should > > > not get to that extreme and asking why she was trying to turn > > > something positive into having negative consequences. It was a > > > wonderful day, his teacher has come a long way in the past month > > and > > > a half and has become more educated. I'm such a happy mom! Keep > > > fighting for your kids...at some point you will get the needed > > > outcome!> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Wow! How exciting! Your son's sensory/structure issues in school sound a lot like our pre-school experience. We had to pay for private pre-school since our county didn't recognize our little guy as having any issues. We had a similar "turn around" from pre-school to Kindergarden...from being told the problems were all about us and no services to recognizing Asperger's and giving our son an "autism" label with lots of supports at school. Still not sure what made the change - different staff, us bringing an advocate to the elegibility meeting, him having "bad" days during the school evals, or all our independant evals. May this be the beginning of a new season for you and Jayden! I'd be happy to chat about supports which have helped our little guy in class. Our little one has significant issues in all 7 sensory areas. He's currently doing very well (for him) in a mainstream classroom with daily scheduled pull-outs for sensory breaks and social skill training. Blessings, (Mommy to a 5.5 year old aspie) www.cuddlebugkids.etsy.com ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find the perfect picture with our powerful photo search features. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Have you had your child officially diagnosed? I found that very helpful. Once I had an official diagnosis, I got help. They couldn't argue with the pediatric neurologist's diagnosis and they were required to provide assistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 They certainly can and do argue with a doctor's diagnosis. A school diagnosis and a doctor's diagnosis are based on different criteria and the school doe snot have to accept a medical disnosis. Ours chose not to. Last week I sent an email requesting an independent evaluation, paid for by the school syster, if they wanted to continue to fight the diagnosis and getting him the help he needed. It doesn't matter what he's labeled at school now. The help is there for him. From: garnejil <garnejil@...>Subject: ( ) Re: WONDERFUL SCHOOL MEETING! Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 9:37 PM Have you had your child officially diagnosed? I found that very helpful. Once I had an official diagnosis, I got help. They couldn't argue with the pediatric neurologist' s diagnosis and they were required to provide assistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Hmmm... This must vary by state. That would be very frustrating to have a diagnosis and then have it ignored. I don't believe a school is qualified to give a medical diagnosis in my opinion. I'm glad he's getting the help he needs. > > > From: garnejil <garnejil@...> > Subject: ( ) Re: WONDERFUL SCHOOL MEETING! > > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 9:37 PM > > > > > > > Have you had your child officially diagnosed? I found that very > helpful. Once I had an official diagnosis, I got help. They couldn't > argue with the pediatric neurologist' s diagnosis and they were > required to provide assistance. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 It isn't always that the school disagrees with the medical diagnosis, it is rather that the impact of the diagnosis must have an impact on the child's education. ---- garnejil <garnejil@...> wrote: > Hmmm... This must vary by state. That would be very frustrating to > have a diagnosis and then have it ignored. I don't believe a school > is qualified to give a medical diagnosis in my opinion. > > I'm glad he's getting the help he needs. > > > > > > > > From: garnejil <garnejil@...> > > Subject: ( ) Re: WONDERFUL SCHOOL MEETING! > > > > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 9:37 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you had your child officially diagnosed? I found that very > > helpful. Once I had an official diagnosis, I got help. They > couldn't > > argue with the pediatric neurologist' s diagnosis and they were > > required to provide assistance. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 This is not a state thing, it's federal. RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else... ( ) Re: WONDERFUL SCHOOL MEETING!> > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 9:37 PM> > > > > > > Have you had your child officially diagnosed? I found that very > helpful. Once I had an official diagnosis, I got help. They couldn't > argue with the pediatric neurologist' s diagnosis and they were > required to provide assistance.> No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.4/1976 - Release Date: 02/27/09 13:27:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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