Re: Homeschooling--can I pull a child out mid-year

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Hi,

I'm running out the door,,,but wanted to tell you real quick, that, first, I'm sorry for stupid people.

Our son does a virtual school......so that's diff from homeschooling, but,....

Google your states' DPI (Dept of Public Instruction......Google your states Homeschooling Association. Ex: here it is the Wisconsin Homeschooling Assoc.

They'lll have all the answers for you.

YEs,,,,,you can pull YOUR kid out whenever you want.

I can bet that you'll hear back about your questions within a day.

DON'T give up on pushing for punishment or "admittance" of how your son was treated. They may do it to someone else!!!

SO,,,,,if you're gonna yank him, make sure you fight them, too!!!Good luck.Robin

From: <hey1029@...>Subject: ( ) Homeschooling--can I pull a child out mid-year Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 3:24 PM

We have had a horrible year in Kindergarten with the school and our son. I can't even go into all of the problems we have had, including them doing basic standardized testing and saying he was MR even though he was all over the board developmentally as most kids with HFA are. So they decided to CUT some services for him because he must not be smart enough to make use of them. In addition to that we have had a lot of issues with the way they respond to his behaivor, the lack of communication with us (not on our end, we have tried a million different things including sitting down with the teach, aide, sp ed teacher, principle and sp ed director) to discuss how to improve communication. We have been looking into homeschooling next year and had decided to definitely do so, but had figured we would let him finish out this school year.

UNTILTODAY. Our Babysitter is a Master's in Special Ed Teaching student who subs during the day and does classes in the evenings. She was subing for one of the other kindergarten classes and was in the cafeteria at the same time as his class. She wne tot say hi to him and noticed that his shoes were both untied whiel he was trying to carry his tray up to the disposal. She tied them for him an then asked his aide if she knew his shoes were untied. The aide said yes she did but what was the point in tying them when he would just untie them again. WHAT!?! She knowingly let a child with poorcoodination and poor balance,a nd poor upper body strength carry a heavy lunch tray across the cafeteria with both shoes untied becasue she did not want ot have to tie them if he untied them again? Not to mention that no one ever said there was a problem with him untying his shoes frequently as it

is not somethign he does at home, and if they had let us know we would have gotten him shoes with velcro to eliminate the problem. That is a SAFETY issue.

Then as the classes were heading to the bus, our sitter who was subbing saw his aide draggin him along by the backpack, not talking to him or even acknowledging him, just dragging him to the bus. I know he walk slow and is easiliy distracted, but that is unacceptable. We have requested twice to have them get him a different aide. We also have requested to be able to sit downa nd talk to the aide and educate her about the autism spectrum, but they refuse even to let us talk to her as "dealing with the parents is not her job".

So after many, many frustrations, we have had enough. The school district circles their wagons whenever anyone even hints at a problem (no wonder so many abusive teachers stay for years and years) and they try to make the family look unstable. So we are done. I am not having my child's physical safety, self-respect, or mental health issues further compromised by an uncaring aide, defensive teacher, and unresponsive school district.

We want to pull him out immediately. I am wondering if anyoe can suggest a good home school curriculum that we can use for the remainder of the school year--he can no yet write due to his weak upper body and poor grasp, but is reading at a 3rd grade level, so we will have to tweak it some. Does anyone know if we are allowed to pull him out and then file the paperwork or do we have to get all the approvals before pulling him out. It is a little vague as the instructions that I found say everyting is due by July 1st for the next year, but something about or within 14 days of your decision to homeschool.

in NY

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You have to give them 10 days written notice and explicitly include in the

letter you are pulling him due to inappropriate education and you expect them to

pay any private school expenses since they are not providing an appropriate

education--if you want to be able to get reimbursed. You may really blow a lot

of money if you don't do this right, so I wouldn't be hasty. If you can, talk

to an attorney. I know people that have successfully sued their school

districts for private school tuition, and this is what they say.

Ruth

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I know a lot of ladies on here have homeschooling experience and will give you some excellent advice but I just wanted to say I'm really sorry your son was treated like that. I often wished I was able to secretively watch my son in his earlier elementary school years b/c I know he was probably treated poorly too. Not right!

"Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out."

From: <hey1029@...> Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 3:24:29 PMSubject: ( ) Homeschooling--can I pull a child out mid-year

We have had a horrible year in Kindergarten with the school and our son. I can't even go into all of the problems we have had, including them doing basic standardized testing and saying he was MR even though he was all over the board developmentally as most kids with HFA are. So they decided to CUT some services for him because he must not be smart enough to make use of them. In addition to that we have had a lot of issues with the way they respond to his behaivor, the lack of communication with us (not on our end, we have tried a million different things including sitting down with the teach, aide, sp ed teacher, principle and sp ed director) to discuss how to improve communication. We have been looking into homeschooling next year and had decided to definitely do so, but had figured we would let him finish out this school year.

UNTILTODAY. Our Babysitter is a Master's in Special Ed Teaching student who subs during the day and does classes in the evenings. She was subing for one of the other kindergarten classes and was in the cafeteria at the same time as his class. She wne tot say hi to him and noticed that his shoes were both untied whiel he was trying to carry his tray up to the disposal. She tied them for him an then asked his aide if she knew his shoes were untied. The aide said yes she did but what was the point in tying them when he would just untie them again. WHAT!?! She knowingly let a child with poorcoodination and poor balance,a nd poor upper body strength carry a heavy lunch tray across the cafeteria with both shoes untied becasue she did not want ot have to tie them if he untied them again? Not to mention that no one ever said there was a problem with him untying his shoes frequently as it

is not somethign he does at home, and if they had let us know we would have gotten him shoes with velcro to eliminate the problem. That is a SAFETY issue.

Then as the classes were heading to the bus, our sitter who was subbing saw his aide draggin him along by the backpack, not talking to him or even acknowledging him, just dragging him to the bus. I know he walk slow and is easiliy distracted, but that is unacceptable. We have requested twice to have them get him a different aide. We also have requested to be able to sit downa nd talk to the aide and educate her about the autism spectrum, but they refuse even to let us talk to her as "dealing with the parents is not her job".

So after many, many frustrations, we have had enough. The school district circles their wagons whenever anyone even hints at a problem (no wonder so many abusive teachers stay for years and years) and they try to make the family look unstable. So we are done. I am not having my child's physical safety, self-respect, or mental health issues further compromised by an uncaring aide, defensive teacher, and unresponsive school district.

We want to pull him out immediately. I am wondering if anyoe can suggest a good home school curriculum that we can use for the remainder of the school year--he can no yet write due to his weak upper body and poor grasp, but is reading at a 3rd grade level, so we will have to tweak it some. Does anyone know if we are allowed to pull him out and then file the paperwork or do we have to get all the approvals before pulling him out. It is a little vague as the instructions that I found say everyting is due by July 1st for the next year, but something about or within 14 days of your decision to homeschool.

in NY

************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ***

Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. -Ralph Waldo Emerson

************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ***

"I do not believe that sheer suffering teaches. If suffering alone taught, all the world would be wise, since everyone suffers. To suffering must be added mourning, understanding, patience, love, openness and the willingness to remain vulnerable." -- ph

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Ruth is right and you might consider finding a sped atty to dot all your i's if you think you will be asking the school to pay for another placement in the future. There are rules you have to follow to do that.

We did pull out our ds after the first quarter of public school. It wasn't the easiest thing we had done but it can be done and it worked out ok. We went to e-schooling so we joined a different school program. The only problem was we had to wait a few weeks to get started. In retrospect, I should have planned it better and signed up for the new e-school before pulling him out of public school. We didn't really start until after the Christmas break so he had almost one quarter "off". I got books and things to do anyway for him. But it was a lot of work for me to put things together at the last minute. I had not planned on pulling him out so it was all spur of the moment. Once we started, I went back in the lessons and we did the work for the 2nd quarter and got caught up at the same time.

I wish I had sat down and put a plan of action together first. Other than that, he did ok and we got through it ok.

Roxanna

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( ) Re: Homeschooling--can I pull a child out mid-year

You have to give them 10 days written notice and explicitly include in the letter you are pulling him due to inappropriate education and you expect them to pay any private school expenses since they are not providing an appropriate education--if you want to be able to get reimbursed. You may really blow a lot of money if you don't do this right, so I wouldn't be hasty. If you can, talk to an attorney. I know people that have successfully sued their school districts for private school tuition, and this is what they say.Ruth

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