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I have NEVER heard of this 'emotionally handicapped' before; I wonder if the doctor would do that for us if the school would then meet his needs (public school that is).....He will write about whatever we ask because he knows we have become the experts at this point........however, that is interesting.......if you are getting services for the child's anxiety, great; count yourself lucky though.......we medicate for the anxiety, or we (both my aspies boys) may be in puddles in the corners of their desks, rooms, and never go anywhere (medicated, they hate to do anything!)...home or outside of it (especially going somewhere-----------)...........I have begun to recognize it is because they just love our new house so much....lol (yeah, right?! Or me?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)....HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.................or, perhaps aspies????????nah........me, they just want to be with me..........have a great day.

Ruthie

From: madideas@...Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:50:38 -0400Subject: Re: ( ) hello - intro

Who is "they?"

The school is obligated to address her special education needs whether they are related to her "label" or not. So if she already has the IEP, a good eval would highlight problems associated with reading and you could then ask for specific instruction in that area. slaw.com has great information regarding reading, especially in the "NCLB" section which highlights reading. There are programs out there for older kids who have dyslexia to improve their reading. They don't have to call it "dyslexia" either - many school's won't say the word. Just get the help proven by the MFE/eval's.

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Hello Regina. EH is emotionally handicapped. She received that label only because she would be resistant to going to school and would have "school anxiety" and her doctor wrote a letter stating that is what she had. She had Title 1 help, tutors from school to help her with her reading. Basically what helps her best is to have her book that she is supposed to read and also have the book on tape so she can hear it and see it because sometimes the words are jumbled. I found that she will see the first 2-3 letters of the word and then say one word and it really is a different one. This changes the meaning of the sentence completely. Having the tape and the book, she is assisted, she has to read with the tape, but learns the words and the information at the same time. It may not work for everyone, but it has worked for her.Tammy

On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 12:39 AM, genasu <genasumylittle (DOT) org> wrote:

Hi Tammy,

You seem to be doing a very good job with your kids. What is EH? Does the school recognize the comprehension issue? Our son, 9, stuggles with comprehension. What help are you getting? With that? Sorry you felt ignored. I have felt that way on lists before, I just keep hanging in there.

Regina

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of kidsrmylife12Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 10:00 PM Subject: ( ) hello - intro

Well I have tried to interject into conversation, and either you allare just used to each other or just are unsure about my qualificationsas a parent with a child in the spectrum. I am not used to be totallyignored as I have been dealing with these issues for almost 15 yearsand have learned a thing or two, dealt with 3 different diagnoses andmany doctors over the years. I also have a lot to learn from othersabout how they deal with their teens and the school system, pubertyand dating perhaps that may come at some point. I was hoping to jointhe group to help and to learn but so far it has been less than welcoming.I have 3 children, one with severe attention deficit hyperactivtydisorder (20yr and on her own), 16 yo dd who had seizure disorder as ayounger child but seems to have outgrown it but has an EH label atschool, an IEP and a learning/comprehension issue. She however isdoing wonderful in 9th grade and so far is on the honor roll. My 14yo ds is my AS and he is also in 9th grade, extremely bright, but theschool system has not been as kind to us with him. He is finally in aregular school working toward a lesser restrictive environment(shortened days) because he gets too stimulated and then over anxiousand then will start getting violent. We are working to avoid that atall costs seeing that my boy is 6ft3in and 300# he tends to frightenpeople when he tosses desks or start growling. I am one who can standup to him because I know he isn't going to hurt a person, but thosewho don't know him, are unsure of the limits.He doesn't write and that is our major struggle. He will do a shortanswer writing assignment but anything longer than 2-3 sentences andhe is overwhelmed. His learned behavior has been that if I throw abig enough stink, then I can get out of it. Well it isn't workinganymore because it is getting brought home via the teachers and theyare letting me fight it out with him and I tend to win. Anyway, if I can help I am here. i will interject if I have somethingto offer, otherwise I tend to just read. Tammy

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in Michigan the Spec. Ed. term is Emotionally Impaired (EI) some states it's Emotionally Disabled (ED). Everyone has their own terms. Find out what your state calls it before you get your dr. letter. BRYAN DOLEZAL <DOLEZAL123@...> wrote: I have NEVER heard of this 'emotionally handicapped' before; I wonder if the doctor would do that for us if the school would then meet his needs (public school that is).....He will write about whatever we ask because he knows we have become the experts at this

point........however, that is interesting.......if you are getting services for the child's anxiety, great; count yourself lucky though.......we medicate for the anxiety, or we (both my aspies boys) may be in puddles in the corners of their desks, rooms, and never go anywhere (medicated, they hate to do anything!)...home or outside of it (especially going somewhere-----------)...........I have begun to recognize it is because they just love our new house so much....lol (yeah, right?! Or me?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)....HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.................or, perhaps aspies????????nah........me, they just want to be with me..........have a great day. Ruthie From: madideaszoominternet (DOT) netDate: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:50:38 -0400Subject: Re: ( ) hello -

intro Who is "they?" The school is obligated to address her special education needs whether they are related to her "label" or not. So if she already has the IEP, a good eval would highlight problems associated with reading and you could then ask for specific instruction in that area. slaw.com has great information regarding reading, especially in the "NCLB" section which highlights reading. There are programs out there for older kids who have dyslexia to improve their reading. They don't have to call it "dyslexia" either - many school's won't say the word. Just get the help proven by the MFE/eval's. RoxannaAutism Happens Re: ( ) hello - intro Hello Regina. EH is emotionally handicapped. She received that label only because she would be resistant to

going to school and would have "school anxiety" and her doctor wrote a letter stating that is what she had. She had Title 1 help, tutors from school to help her with her reading. Basically what helps her best is to have her book that she is supposed to read and also have the book on tape so she can hear it and see it because sometimes the words are jumbled. I found that she will see the first 2-3 letters of the word and then say one word and it really is a different one. This changes the meaning of the sentence completely. Having the tape and the book, she is assisted, she has to read with the tape, but learns the words and the information at the same time. It may not work for everyone, but it has worked for her.Tammy On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 12:39 AM, genasu <genasumylittle (DOT) org> wrote: Hi Tammy,You seem to be doing a very good job with your kids. What is EH? Does the school recognize the comprehension issue? Our son, 9, stuggles with comprehension. What help are you getting? With that? Sorry you felt ignored. I have felt that way on lists before, I just keep hanging in there.Regina From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of kidsrmylife12Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 10:00 PM Subject: ( ) hello - intro Well I have tried to interject into conversation, and either you allare just used to each other or just are unsure about my qualificationsas a parent with a child in the spectrum. I am not used to be totallyignored as I have been dealing with these issues for almost 15 yearsand have learned a thing or two, dealt with 3 different diagnoses andmany doctors over the years. I also have a lot to learn from othersabout how they deal with their teens and the school system, pubertyand dating perhaps that may come at some point. I was hoping to jointhe group to help and to learn but so far it has been less than welcoming.I have 3 children, one with severe attention deficit hyperactivtydisorder (20yr and on her own), 16 yo dd who had seizure disorder as ayounger

child but seems to have outgrown it but has an EH label atschool, an IEP and a learning/comprehension issue. She however isdoing wonderful in 9th grade and so far is on the honor roll. My 14yo ds is my AS and he is also in 9th grade, extremely bright, but theschool system has not been as kind to us with him. He is finally in aregular school working toward a lesser restrictive environment(shortened days) because he gets too stimulated and then over anxiousand then will start getting violent. We are working to avoid that atall costs seeing that my boy is 6ft3in and 300# he tends to frightenpeople when he tosses desks or start growling. I am one who can standup to him because I know he isn't going to hurt a person, but thosewho don't know him, are unsure of the limits.He doesn't write and that is our major struggle. He will do a shortanswer writing assignment but anything longer than 2-3 sentences andhe is

overwhelmed. His learned behavior has been that if I throw abig enough stink, then I can get out of it. Well it isn't workinganymore because it is getting brought home via the t! eachers and theyare letting me fight it out with him and I tend to win. Anyway, if I can help I am here. i will interject if I have somethingto offer, otherwise I tend to just read. Tammy No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1398 - Release Date: 4/25/2008 2:31 PM No virus found in this incoming

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How did the move go? All settled in? Or still chaos?

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Hello Regina. EH is emotionally handicapped. She received that label only because she would be resistant to going to school and would have "school anxiety" and her doctor wrote a letter stating that is what she had. She had Title 1 help, tutors from school to help her with her reading. Basically what helps her best is to have her book that she is supposed to read and also have the book on tape so she can hear it and see it because sometimes the words are jumbled. I found that she will see the first 2-3 letters of the word and then say one word and it really is a different one. This changes the meaning of the sentence completely. Having the tape and the book, she is assisted, she has to read with the tape, but learns the words and the information at the same time. It may not work for everyone, but it has worked for her.Tammy

On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 12:39 AM, genasu <genasumylittle (DOT) org> wrote:

Hi Tammy,You seem to be doing a very good job with your kids. What is EH? Does the school recognize the comprehension issue? Our son, 9, stuggles with comprehension. What help are you getting? With that? Sorry you felt ignored. I have felt that way on lists before, I just keep hanging in there.Regina

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of kidsrmylife12Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 10:00 PM Subject: ( ) hello - intro

Well I have tried to interject into conversation, and either you allare just used to each other or just are unsure about my qualificationsas a parent with a child in the spectrum. I am not used to be totallyignored as I have been dealing with these issues for almost 15 yearsand have learned a thing or two, dealt with 3 different diagnoses andmany doctors over the years. I also have a lot to learn from othersabout how they deal with their teens and the school system, pubertyand dating perhaps that may come at some point. I was hoping to jointhe group to help and to learn but so far it has been less than welcoming.I have 3 children, one with severe attention deficit hyperactivtydisorder (20yr and on her own), 16 yo dd who had seizure disorder as ayounger child but seems to have outgrown it but has an EH label atschool, an IEP and a learning/comprehension issue. She however isdoing wondrful in 9th grade and so far is on the honor roll. My 14yo ds is my AS and he is also in 9th grade, extremely bright, but theschool system has not been as kind to us with him. He is finally in aregular school working toward a lesser restrictive environment(shortened days) because he gets too stimulated and then over anxiousand then will start getting violent. We are working to avoid that atall costs seeing that my boy is 6ft3in and 300# he tends to frightenpeople when he tosses desks or start growling. I am one who can standup to him because I know he isn't going to hurt a person, but thosewho don't know him, are unsure of the limits.He doesn't write and that is our major struggle. He will do a shortanswer writing assignment but anything longer than 2-3 sentences andhe is overwhelmed. His learned behavior has been that if I throw abig enough stink, then I can get out of it. Well it isn't workinganymore because it is getting brought home via the teacher and theyare letting me fight it out with him and I tend to win. Anyway, if I can help I am here. i will interject if I have somethingto offer, otherwise I tend to just read. Tammy

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I would definately bring it up as anxiety drastically impairs learning. For instance, was afraid to ask to use the restroom, she would concentrate on that instead of the lesson, but angonize over the fact that she didn't know the lesson. She didn't talk to people she didn't know, even teachers until about 5th grade and it wasn't until 6-7th grade she came out of her shell and began advocating for her own needs. She would even wet herself in school before asking a teacher to use the restroom. Her educational part besides that was that she was always " sick " every day, called me everyday to pick her up because her tummy hurt. She cried throughout homework everyday because she didn't understand. She would also cry at school and isolate herself with the exception of one friend. She is so different now because of all the work we have done with her, all the help the teachers gave, making the stress less, more time on tests, having them read to her etc. If you can find what the trigger at school is that is the important thing also. We knew it was the reading and comprehension aspects.

TammyOn Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:40 AM, BRYAN DOLEZAL <DOLEZAL123@...> wrote:

I have NEVER heard of this 'emotionally handicapped' before; I wonder if the doctor would do that for us if the school would then meet his needs (public school that is).....He will write about whatever we ask because he knows we have become the experts at this point........however, that is interesting.......if you are getting services for the child's anxiety, great; count yourself lucky though.......we medicate for the anxiety, or we (both my aspies boys) may be in puddles in the corners of their desks, rooms, and never go anywhere (medicated, they hate to do anything!)...home or outside of it (especially going somewhere-----------)...........I have begun to recognize it is because they just love our new house so much....lol (yeah, right?! Or me?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)....HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.................or, perhaps aspies????????nah........me, they just want to be with me..........have a great day.

Ruthie

From: madideas@...Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:50:38 -0400

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Who is " they? "

The school is obligated to address her special education needs whether they are related to her " label " or not. So if she already has the IEP, a good eval would highlight problems associated with reading and you could then ask for specific instruction in that area. slaw.com has great information regarding reading, especially in the " NCLB " section which highlights reading. There are programs out there for older kids who have dyslexia to improve their reading. They don't have to call it " dyslexia " either - many school's won't say the word. Just get the help proven by the MFE/eval's.

RoxannaAutism Happens

( ) hello - intro

Well I have tried to interject into conversation, and either you allare just used to each other or just are unsure about my qualificationsas a parent with a child in the spectrum. I am not used to be totally

ignored as I have been dealing with these issues for almost 15 yearsand have learned a thing or two, dealt with 3 different diagnoses andmany doctors over the years. I also have a lot to learn from othersabout how they deal with their teens and the school system, puberty

and dating perhaps that may come at some point. I was hoping to jointhe group to help and to learn but so far it has been less than welcoming.I have 3 children, one with severe attention deficit hyperactivtydisorder (20yr and on her own), 16 yo dd who had seizure disorder as a

younger child but seems to have outgrown it but has an EH label atschool, an IEP and a learning/comprehension issue. She however isdoing wonderful in 9th grade and so far is on the honor roll. My 14yo ds is my AS and he is also in 9th grade, extremely bright, but the

school system has not been as kind to us with him. He is finally in aregular school working toward a lesser restrictive environment(shortened days) because he gets too stimulated and then over anxiousand then will start getting violent. We are working to avoid that at

all costs seeing that my boy is 6ft3in and 300# he tends to frightenpeople when he tosses desks or start growling. I am one who can standup to him because I know he isn't going to hurt a person, but thosewho don't know him, are unsure of the limits.

He doesn't write and that is our major struggle. He will do a shortanswer writing assignment but anything longer than 2-3 sentences andhe is overwhelmed. His learned behavior has been that if I throw abig enough stink, then I can get out of it. Well it isn't working

anymore because it is getting brought home via the teachers and theyare letting me fight it out with him and I tend to win. Anyway, if I can help I am here. i will interject if I have somethingto offer, otherwise I tend to just read. Tammy

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Well I may have had these IEP's I still have had struggles. They didn't hand them to me on a plate. They refused my first daughter one even though she qualified under article 7 Other Health Impaired. She didn't do well all through school and I struggled as a parent, and I don't think I did that well even if she thinks I did. I just try, just like all of you do. I didn't get a diagnosis on my ds until he was about 10yo and he is turning 15. He went through other Dx's in the mean time. I wish they would have dx'ed him when I started taking him to the developmental clinic at 10 months. I knew something was up back then but they didn't. Then at 2 they said he had ADHD, climbing the exam tables, jumping off, sweeping the doctors desk, then the activity table, getting on top of it dancing, then trying to jump from the activity table to the exam table. A little extreme in activity but he didn't typically act THAT wild. He was an escape artist, and extremely bright. However I knew nothing about autism and aspergers back then. I did know ADHD because my eldest had that. I did think though that whatever had seemed different than Jenna but couldn't really say how even if they acted similar.

TammyOn Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:27 AM, BRYAN DOLEZAL <DOLEZAL123@...> wrote:

Perhaps because you are LUCKY to be having IEP's so young, too............a lot of us with Aspergers, did not get a diagnosis that early out, so we are NOT in your shoes; I think, which is what you would want, unless we are an 'expert' in it, we are NOT going to respond to you either; I know I don't want to misinform or say something I DO NOT KNOW FOR A FACT (or at least a fact in my area / state depending upon what it is............and, I did read about 10 of the 1168 letters in my box over the weekend; I think we are still in the same boat. Hang in there, dear...........and, we are HERE------------Ruthie

From: madideas@...Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:21:55 -0400

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Hi Mina,

It's such a busy list that getting attention is sometimes difficult. I know I am swamped in my " real " life and behind in reading emails. You just have to find your voice here and you will.

I have a lot of experiences in IEP " stuff " and still remember when my kids were that young. So if you have questions or need help, just yell. But give me a few days to catch up sometimes. lol.

RoxannaAutism Happens

(AspegersSupport) hello - intro

Well I have tried to interject into conversation, and either you allare just used to each other or just are unsure about my qualificationsas a parent with a child in the spectrum. I am not used to be totally

ignored as I have been dealing with these issues for almost 15 yearsand have learned a thing or two, dealt with 3 different diagnoses andmany doctors over the years. I also have a lot to learn from othersabout how they deal with their teens and the school system, puberty

and dating perhaps that may come at some point. I was oping to jointhe group to help and to learn but so far it has been less than welcoming.I have 3 children, one with severe attention deficit hyperactivtydisorder (20yr and on her own), 16 yo dd who had seizure disorder as a

younger child but seems to have outgrown it but has an EH label atschool, an IEP and a learning/comprehension issue. She however isdoing wonderful in 9th grade and so far is on the honor roll. My 14yo ds is my AS and he is also in 9th grade, extremely bright, but the

school system has not been as kind to us with him. He is finally in aregular school working toward a lesser restrictive environment(shortened days) because he gets too stimulated and then over anxiousand then will start getting violent. We are working to avoid that at

all costs seeing that my boy is 6ft3in and 300# he tends to frightenpeople when he tosses desks or start growling. I am one who can standup to him because I know he isn't going to hurt a person, but thosebr>who don't know him, are unsure of the limits.

He doesn't write and that is our major struggle. He will do a shortanswer writing assignment but anything longer than 2-3 sentences andhe is overwhelmed. His learned behavior has been that if I throw abig enough stink, then I can get out of it. Well it isn't working

anymore because it is getting brought home via the teachers and theyare letting me fight it out with him and I tend to win. Anyway, if I can help I am here. i will interject if I have somethingto offer, otherwise I tend to just read. Tammy

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Yes " they " the special ed team do address her comprehension issues... mostly under my instruction. If she is reading a book she gets it on tape also if available or she gets to be in a co-taught classroom with pull-outs that have the book read aloud and discussed more in depth so there is a better understanding. She is needing less and less help of the pull outs except for testing where she needs the quiet atmosphere so she doesn't get distracted. We have had evaluations regarding her reading and they seem to all indicate low comprehension and low average reading ability. In Indiana there has to be a certain " point spread " to be determined LD and she didn't make that. It is okay because they are still attending to those issues, and we keep making sure that we adjust when necessary. She is in 9th grade as a 16yo and my boy is in 9th grade as a 14yo. She however is making the honor roll because she works so hard. She still gets her anxiety and when it gets bad we just have to talk with her teachers and she gets more time with her assignments because they know it does take her longer for some projects.

TammyOn Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Roxanna <madideas@...> wrote:

Who is " they? "

The school is obligated to address her special education needs whether they are related to her " label " or not. So if she already has the IEP, a good eval would highlight problems associated with reading and you could then ask for specific instruction in that area. slaw.com has great information regarding reading, especially in the " NCLB " section which highlights reading. There are programs out there for older kids who have dyslexia to improve their reading. They don't have to call it " dyslexia " either - many school's won't say the word. Just get the help proven by the MFE/eval's.

RoxannaAutism Happens

Re: ( ) hello - intro

Hello Regina. EH is emotionally handicapped. She received that label only because she would be resistant to going to school and would have " school anxiety " and her doctor wrote a letter stating that is what she had. She had Title 1 help, tutors from school to help her with her reading. Basically what helps her best is to have her book that she is supposed to read and also have the book on tape so she can hear it and see it because sometimes the words are jumbled. I found that she will see the first 2-3 letters of the word and then say one word and it really is a different one. This changes the meaning of the sentence completely. Having the tape and the book, she is assisted, she has to read with the tape, but learns the words and the information at the same time. It may not work for everyone, but it has worked for her.Tammy

On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 12:39 AM, genasu <genasu@...> wrote:

Hi Tammy,

You seem to be doing a very good job with your kids. What is EH? Does the school recognize the comprehension issue? Our son, 9, stuggles with comprehension. What help are you getting? With that? Sorry you felt ignored. I have felt that way on lists before, I just keep hanging in there.

Regina

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of kidsrmylife12Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 10:00 PM Subject: ( ) hello - intro

Well I have tried to interject into conversation, and either you allare just used to each other or just are unsure about my qualificationsas a parent with a child in the spectrum. I am not used to be totallyignored as I have been dealing with these issues for almost 15 yearsand have learned a thing or two, dealt with 3 different diagnoses andmany doctors over the years. I also have a lot to learn from othersabout how they deal with their teens and the school system, pubertyand dating perhaps that may come at some point. I was hoping to jointhe group to help and to learn but so far it has been less than welcoming.I have 3 children, one with severe attention deficit hyperactivtydisorder (20yr and on her own), 16 yo dd who had seizure disorder as ayounger child but seems to have outgrown it but has an EH label atschool, an IEP and a learning/comprehension issue. She however isdoing wonderful in 9th grade and so far is on the honor roll. My 14yo ds is my AS and he is also in 9th grade, extremely bright, but theschool system has not been as kind to us with him. He is finally in aregular school working toward a lesser restrictive environment(shortened days) because he gets too stimulated and then over anxiousand then will start getting violent. We are working to avoid that atall costs seeing that my boy is 6ft3in and 300# he tends to frightenpeople when he tosses desks or start growling. I am one who can standup to him because I know he isn't going to hurt a person, but thosewho don't know him, are unsure of the limits.He doesn't write and that is our major struggle. He will do a shortanswer writing assignment but anything longer than 2-3 sentences andhe is overwhelmed. His learned behavior has been that if I throw abig enough stink, then I can get out of it. Well it isn't workinganymore because it is getting brought home via the teachers and theyare letting me fight it out with him and I tend to win. Anyway, if I can help I am here. i will interject if I have somethingto offer, otherwise I tend to just read. Tammy

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