Needing help on making decision

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

I am new to this board and I am needing some advices on how to approach this

situation. I have a 6 years old son enrolled currently in public school system.

He started his school year in Kindergarten but was shift back and forth after a

couple of months between classes (Kindergarten all the way to 3rd grade) because

of his academic performance. RIght now, he is placed in 2nd grade class. He gets

excitable when there is other kids/people around him and would always try to get

attention in some ways, sometimes inappropriately, like bumping to people,

throwing/droping things at people, etc.

He gets in trouble a lot because he just cannot sit still and pay attention to

his teacher. Even though the school is aware of his condition, but he is still

getting timeout for not paying attention or wandering around the room. Currently

there is aide that follows him everywhere in school. He also receives special

service for his socialization skills.

For a couple of months now, he ate his lunch in a separate room with one other

kid and a teacher. Now he is back in the lunchroom, but he does not get out for

recess. For the most part, he has to get to play with computer during his

recess.

His IEP meeting is coming up on the 20th, I am not sure whether I want him to

stay in public school system. I want to homeschool him, but I am afraid of the

socialization implication for him, especially since he is an only child and I

believe I also might have Asperger as well.

Should I leave him in public school system, or should I take him out. I am not

too happy about him always getting in trouble at home and this has resulted in

unhappy situation at home, since I would lecture him instead of being

understanding of his situation.

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

Effy

[Guest guest]

Hi there are lots of people that have had success with

homeschooling. I'll let them address that OK.

Maybe the school needs to pay for a private school placement with an aide in a

school for gifted children his age if this is the case.

I would get a neuropsychologist involved in helping you

sort out an appropriate placement. His situation is unique

and the school will not have the knowledge. You can ask for

the school to pay for the neuropsh too.

There are many many options perhaps he needs a pull out into

a resource room for math and LAL if he is gifted and remains

in his age group for everything else where he may have a

prayer to connect to someone his age.

I can't understand how he is punished for movement if he is

6 in an advanced class.

You need to get some folks involved via your IEP process.

You can request an IEP meeting monthly if need be.

I personally don't do this enough as issue arise.

Pam

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I am new to this board and I am needing some advices on how to approach this

situation. I have a 6 years old son enrolled currently in public school system.

He started his school year in Kindergarten but was shift back and forth after a

couple of months between classes (Kindergarten all the way to 3rd grade) because

of his academic performance. RIght now, he is placed in 2nd grade class. He gets

excitable when there is other kids/people around him and would always try to get

attention in some ways, sometimes inappropriately, like bumping to people,

throwing/droping things at people, etc.

>

> He gets in trouble a lot because he just cannot sit still and pay attention to

his teacher. Even though the school is aware of his condition, but he is still

getting timeout for not paying attention or wandering around the room. Currently

there is aide that follows him everywhere in school. He also receives special

service for his socialization skills.

>

> For a couple of months now, he ate his lunch in a separate room with one other

kid and a teacher. Now he is back in the lunchroom, but he does not get out for

recess. For the most part, he has to get to play with computer during his

recess.

>

> His IEP meeting is coming up on the 20th, I am not sure whether I want him to

stay in public school system. I want to homeschool him, but I am afraid of the

socialization implication for him, especially since he is an only child and I

believe I also might have Asperger as well.

>

> Should I leave him in public school system, or should I take him out. I am not

too happy about him always getting in trouble at home and this has resulted in

unhappy situation at home, since I would lecture him instead of being

understanding of his situation.

>

> Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thank you

> Effy

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the advice.

The school did try that for a while, pulling him out for math in gifted resource

room and placing him in 3rd grade classroom for reading, and 2nd grade for

social science. But I have a feeling they are doing it because the Kindergarten

teacher was unable to handle him anymore. She would complain daily to me and the

principal to get him off her classroom. For two months he was carted between

classroom and only in Kindergarten for the first 15 min and the last 15 min.

Eventually every teacher that has encounter him including the gifted teacher

threw their hands up, except the current 2nd grade.

It breaks my heart to see him like that everyday. At least now he is in one

classroom all day though all his classmates are 2 years older than him.

Effy

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I am new to this board and I am needing some advices on how to approach this

situation. I have a 6 years old son enrolled currently in public school system.

He started his school year in Kindergarten but was shift back and forth after a

couple of months between classes (Kindergarten all the way to 3rd grade) because

of his academic performance. RIght now, he is placed in 2nd grade class. He gets

excitable when there is other kids/people around him and would always try to get

attention in some ways, sometimes inappropriately, like bumping to people,

throwing/droping things at people, etc.

> >

> > He gets in trouble a lot because he just cannot sit still and pay attention

to his teacher. Even though the school is aware of his condition, but he is

still getting timeout for not paying attention or wandering around the room.

Currently there is aide that follows him everywhere in school. He also receives

special service for his socialization skills.

> >

> > For a couple of months now, he ate his lunch in a separate room with one

other kid and a teacher. Now he is back in the lunchroom, but he does not get

out for recess. For the most part, he has to get to play with computer during

his recess.

> >

> > His IEP meeting is coming up on the 20th, I am not sure whether I want him

to stay in public school system. I want to homeschool him, but I am afraid of

the socialization implication for him, especially since he is an only child and

I believe I also might have Asperger as well.

> >

> > Should I leave him in public school system, or should I take him out. I am

not too happy about him always getting in trouble at home and this has resulted

in unhappy situation at home, since I would lecture him instead of being

understanding of his situation.

> >

> > Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Thank you

> > Effy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Effy,

Sounds like you have big decisions to make. I think one of your problems is

where your son is placed now. Our AS children are WAY behind socially than kids

even their own age, let alone kids even older. The teacher would probably have

as much problems if they stuck preschool age kids in their classroom (which is

what they are doing with your son, socially anyway). It's only going to get

worse as he goes up in grades. You could probably think about him staying back,

or even moving down a grade and asking the upper grade teachers to give him

work. Or you could try to educate the staff about how AS works, or try a

private or home school. Any of these might help. But if you let him get moved

up as is, you will probably end up with a miserable son and teacher.

Good Luck

ah

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I am new to this board and I am needing some advices on how to approach this

situation. I have a 6 years old son enrolled currently in public school system.

He started his school year in Kindergarten but was shift back and forth after a

couple of months between classes (Kindergarten all the way to 3rd grade) because

of his academic performance. RIght now, he is placed in 2nd grade class. He gets

excitable when there is other kids/people around him and would always try to get

attention in some ways, sometimes inappropriately, like bumping to people,

throwing/droping things at people, etc.

>

> He gets in trouble a lot because he just cannot sit still and pay attention to

his teacher. Even though the school is aware of his condition, but he is still

getting timeout for not paying attention or wandering around the room. Currently

there is aide that follows him everywhere in school. He also receives special

service for his socialization skills.

>

> For a couple of months now, he ate his lunch in a separate room with one other

kid and a teacher. Now he is back in the lunchroom, but he does not get out for

recess. For the most part, he has to get to play with computer during his

recess.

>

> His IEP meeting is coming up on the 20th, I am not sure whether I want him to

stay in public school system. I want to homeschool him, but I am afraid of the

socialization implication for him, especially since he is an only child and I

believe I also might have Asperger as well.

>

> Should I leave him in public school system, or should I take him out. I am not

too happy about him always getting in trouble at home and this has resulted in

unhappy situation at home, since I would lecture him instead of being

understanding of his situation.

>

> Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thank you

> Effy

>

[Guest guest]

You are in the best position to know what is best. We are

all reacting to him being with older kids and having even

less in common with them.

Your son is academically gifted. Perhaps he will connect

thru educational interests.

We can only suggest options you may not have thought of ..

good luck

Pam

>

> >

> > Just because he is placed into a 2nd grade classroom does not mean he is a

2nd grader, developmentally.? He is still 6 yo.? Part of the curriculum for 6

yo's is geared for their needs and for the behaviors that a 6 yo will have.?

They get more recesses, get snacks during the day, and the teachers are more

likely to be understanding of typical 6 yo behavior problems because they have a

whole class of them.? So I wonder if putting him in a 2nd grade classroom is the

best idea.? At least, not without providing the supports he needs and making the

accommodations for his developmental age needs.? You might consider asking for

another way of educating him, if he is so far advanced academically.? Think of

other ways he could get what he needs.? One idea off the top of my head is to

have him pulled out for individual work in areas he is advanced in while staying

with his age peers for other classes.? If he has AS, his social ability will be

lower than his age, which will exacerbate the problem of being in an older

class/grade.? So what is being done to address that aspect??

> >

> > We dealt with this by advancing our ds one grade level to help with the

academics.? He was not so much younger than the other kids, then, although he

was younger.? So that was a problem still.? He did have a lot of time in 1-1

tutoring vs in the class.? One expert said they needed to have him helping his

classmates a lot - to take care of the boredom he had and to increase his social

skills and his " status " with his peers.? But I don't think anyone really

facilitated this in any meaningful way.? Eventually, we pulled him out and are

e-schooling him at home.? For kids who are twice exceptional, it can be really

tough to find a good fit.?

>

[Guest guest]

I wasn't offended. I hear your frustration.

And you do now what is best, because you know your school and what they can

provide. The NYU Asperger Institute is trying to create

a home school program for AS kids. They must know too it is hard

to get a good placement.

It is a shame that in today's age of information the schools still fail meeting

the needs of some of our kids.

I am frustrated too.

Pam

> >

> > You are in the best position to know what is best. We are

> > all reacting to him being with older kids and having even

> > less in common with them.

> >

> > Your son is academically gifted. Perhaps he will connect

> > thru educational interests.

> >

> > We can only suggest options you may not have thought of ..

> >

> > good luck

> >

> > Pam

>

[Guest guest]

It sounds like the teacher needed training. I wouldn't want him back in that kind of class either. You are right, why go to school at all. I would either create a program to suit his needs or find a school in your area that can address his needs and ask the school to pay to send him there. Homeschooling is also an option. But he does have a right to be educated and not warehoused.

Roxanna

Autism Happens

Re: ( ) Needing help on making decision

We had tried that route before and I would love to have that route again. However, I could not and would not stand him being taught by the same Kindergarten teacher. Instead of being understanding of his situation, he was placed in the corner near the closet by himself. His daily work consisted of "here pick stuff from the busy box to do and don't bother anyone else. Do not talk or disturb anyone else in the classroom." One solution she had was to give him sudoku to do while she taught the rest of the class. My question then, why is he even in school?

She was near in tears when she realized that she was going to have him in his class for part of the day that the school end up taking him out of his classroom and putting him in interrelated classroom to play by himself. He was separated, miserable in that class, constantly punished for not following the rule, when for the most part, it was a reaction from other kids provocation. Of course, he was always the only one being punished because he is the troublemakes in their minds.

I do realize that he needs those peers too, but the bad outweight the good I believe. He would come home crying because no one wants to be with him.

Sorry for the long rant.

>

> Just because he is placed into a 2nd grade classroom does not mean he is a 2nd grader, developmentally.? He is still 6 yo.? Part of the curriculum for 6 yo's is geared for their needs and for the behaviors that a 6 yo will have.? They get more recesses, get snacks during the day, and the teachers are more likely to be understanding of typical 6 yo behavior problems because they have a whole class of them.? So I wonder if putting him in a 2nd grade classroom is the best idea.? At least, not without providing the supports he needs and making the accommodations for his developmental age needs.? You might consider asking for another way of educating him, if he is so far advanced academically.? Think of other ways he could get what he needs.? One idea off the top of my head is to have him pulled out for individual work in areas he is advanced in while staying with his age peers for other classes.? If he has AS, his social ability will be lower than his age, which will exacerbate the problem of being in an older class/grade.? So what is being done to address that aspect??

>

> We dealt with this by advancing our ds one grade level to help with the academics.? He was not so much younger than the other kids, then, although he was younger.? So that was a problem still.? He did have a lot of time in 1-1 tutoring vs in the class.? One expert said they needed to have him helping his classmates a lot - to take care of the boredom he had and to increase his social skills and his "status" with his peers.? But I don't think anyone really facilitated this in any meaningful way.? Eventually, we pulled him out and are e-schooling him at home.? For kids who are twice exceptional, it can be really tough to find a good fit.?

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