Re: After School Math Reinforcement Part of IEP?

[Guest guest]

I can't find anything in the Wisconsin laws or statutes that would

require the school to provide out of school tutoring as a part of

special ed. I don't know what state you are in but if you find out

anything let us know.

>

> Hi All,

>  

> I had a question regarding what can be stated in the IEP.  My son

currently receives in class support for math, he is in the 4th

grade.  Math is a constant challenge for him .  In addition to having

Aspergers, he has auditory processing, severe attention, long & short

term memory issues and visual issues as well.  With that being said,

I have been arguing with my district that in class support is simply

not enough.  I have a tutor that works with him 2 hours per week on

math but he simply cannot retain what he learns.  I have asked them

to provide reinforcement of math skills.  They have argued that he is

pulled out for too many things already.  My suggestion was that it be

provided either after school or at recess.  The in class support

teacher stated that she would work with him after school.  She then

stated that this service cannot be listed as part of the IEP because

the district typically does not provide support after school.  I know

> this isn't true, but am trying to find a law or something to

support my request that it be written into the IEP.

>  

> I am frustrated because I work with my son everyday and have also

hired someone to help him with math and it is still a struggle.  I

have had independent testing done on my son to further reinforce the

point that he needs further assistance, but the child study team

simply sees it as he needs more time to learn rather than changing

what we are doing.

>  

> Anyway, your thoughts and ideas are always appreciated.

>  

> Thanks again,

> Luz

>

[Guest guest]

You don't have to look for something to support your request. You just need to ask them to show why it can't be done. Anytime they deny a service, you should receive "prior written notice" PWN which gives you the answer, in writing. It should tell you what was considered and what was decided as well as why. You should write follow up letters to all meetings and add statements that were made during the meeting. Then request the information pertaining to the problem you are having - i.e. where in the rules it says they can't provide this after school and also that you did not receive your PWN.

It can be done, also. I got ST provided for outside of school hours once because what they had available during school was not sufficient to meet my ds's needs. I probably could have also billed for mileage but my ds refused to go and so it just never came together.

They need to provide whatever he needs to get a free/appropriate public education. If he needs tutoring, then that is a need. It doesn't have to be provided to him via the teacher either. She probably has contract hours as well. He could go to a private tutor or find out if your school is providing tutoring to certain kids already and see if that is possible for him.

RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else...

( ) After School Math Reinforcement Part of IEP?

Hi All,

I had a question regarding what can be stated in the IEP. My son currently receives in class support for math, he is in the 4th grade. Math is a constant challenge for him . In addition to having Aspergers, he has auditory processing, severe attention, long & short term memory issues and visual issues as well. With that being said, I have been arguing with my district that in class support is simply not enough. I have a tutor that works with him 2 hours per week on math but he simply cannot retain what he learns. I have asked them to provide reinforcement of math skills. They have argued that he is pulled out for too many things already. My suggestion was that it be provided either after school or at recess. The in class support teacher stated that she would work with him after school. She then stated that this service cannot be listed as part of the IEP because the district typically does not provide support after school. I know this isn't true, but am trying to find a law or something to support my request that it be written into the IEP.

I am frustrated because I work with my son everyday and have also hired someone to help him with math and it is still a struggle. I have had independent testing done on my son to further reinforce the point that he needs further assistance, but the child study team simply sees it as he needs more time to learn rather than changing what we are doing.

Anyway, your thoughts and ideas are always appreciated.

Thanks again,

Luz

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nna,

Very interesting...I requested he be tested for speech.....they just did it and so far I have not rec'd anything in writing. I still think he needs it and would love to speak to the Speech therapist myself or see the results. I am going to keep this in mind.

Jan

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From: Roxanna <madideas@...>Subject: Re: ( ) After School Math Reinforcement Part of IEP? Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 1:30 PM

You don't have to look for something to support your request. You just need to ask them to show why it can't be done. Anytime they deny a service, you should receive "prior written notice" PWN which gives you the answer, in writing. It should tell you what was considered and what was decided as well as why. You should write follow up letters to all meetings and add statements that were made during the meeting. Then request the information pertaining to the problem you are having - i.e. where in the rules it says they can't provide this after school and also that you did not receive your PWN.

It can be done, also. I got ST provided for outside of school hours once because what they had available during school was not sufficient to meet my ds's needs. I probably could have also billed for mileage but my ds refused to go and so it just never came together.

They need to provide whatever he needs to get a free/appropriate public education. If he needs tutoring, then that is a need. It doesn't have to be provided to him via the teacher either. She probably has contract hours as well. He could go to a private tutor or find out if your school is providing tutoring to certain kids already and see if that is possible for him.

RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else...

( ) After School Math Reinforcement Part of IEP?

Hi All,

I had a question regarding what can be stated in the IEP. My son currently receives in class support for math, he is in the 4th grade. Math is a constant challenge for him . In addition to having Aspergers, he has auditory processing, severe attention, long & short term memory issues and visual issues as well. With that being said, I have been arguing with my district that in class support is simply not enough. I have a tutor that works with him 2 hours per week on math but he simply cannot retain what he learns. I have asked them to provide reinforcement of math skills. They have argued that he is pulled out for too many things already. My suggestion was that it be provided either after school or at recess. The in class support teacher stated that she would work with him after school. She then stated that this service cannot be listed as part of the IEP because the district

typically does not provide support after school. I know this isn't true, but am trying to find a law or something to support my request that it be written into the IEP.

I am frustrated because I work with my son everyday and have also hired someone to help him with math and it is still a struggle. I have had independent testing done on my son to further reinforce the point that he needs further assistance, but the child study team simply sees it as he needs more time to learn rather than changing what we are doing.

Anyway, your thoughts and ideas are always appreciated.

Thanks again,

Luz

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Jan,

Please do go ask the ST to give you the test results in writing and talk to you about the testing! You have a right to this information!!

RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else...

( ) After School Math Reinforcement Part of IEP?

Hi All,

I had a question regarding what can be stated in the IEP. My son currently receives in class support for math, he is in the 4th grade. Math is a constant challenge for him . In addition to having Aspergers, he has auditory processing, severe attention, long & short term memory issues and visual issues as well. With that being said, I have been arguing with my district that in class support is simply not enough. I have a tutor that works with him 2 hours per week on math but he simply cannot retain what he learns. I have asked them to provide reinforcement of math skills. They have argued that he is pulled out for too many things already. My suggestion was that it be provided either after school or at recess. The in class support teacher stated that she would work with him after school. She then stated that this service cannot be listed as part of the IEP because the district typically does not provide support after school. I know this isn't true, but am trying to find a law or something to support my request that it be written into the IEP.

I am frustrated because I work with my son everyday and have also hired someone to help him with math and it is still a struggle. I have had independent testing done on my son to further reinforce the point that he needs further assistance, but the child study team simply sees it as he needs more time to learn rather than changing what we are doing.

Anyway, your thoughts and ideas are always appreciated.

Thanks again,

Luz

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Roxanna,

I am not sure who it is but I will find out and email her. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Doctor thinks it is DEPRESSION...he said he has never seen like this....he picked up on it right away. He did order blood work to rule anything else out but he is usually right on with his DX. 's mobile therapist will be here Friday and she will talk to about some of this.

You guys are all angels!

Love

Jan

Jan Rushen

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From: Roxanna <madideas@zoomintern et.net>Subject: Re: ( ) After School Math Reinforcement Part of IEP? Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 1:30 PM

You don't have to look for something to support your request. You just need to ask them to show why it can't be done. Anytime they deny a service, you should receive "prior written notice" PWN which gives you the answer, in writing. It should tell you what was considered and what was decided as well as why. You should write follow up letters to all meetings and add statements that were made during the meeting. Then request the information pertaining to the problem you are having - i.e. where in the rules it says they can't provide this after school and also that you did not receive your PWN.

It can be done, also. I got ST provided for outside of school hours once because what they had available during school was not sufficient to meet my ds's needs. I probably could have also billed for mileage but my ds refused to go and so it just never came together.

They need to provide whatever he needs to get a free/appropriate public education. If he needs tutoring, then that is a need. It doesn't have to be provided to him via the teacher either. She probably has contract hours as well. He could go to a private tutor or find out if your school is providing tutoring to certain kids already and see if that is possible for him.

RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else...

( ) After School Math Reinforcement Part of IEP?

Hi All,

I had a question regarding what can be stated in the IEP. My son currently receives in class support for math, he is in the 4th grade. Math is a constant challenge for him . In addition to having Aspergers, he has auditory processing, severe attention, long & short term memory issues and visual issues as well. With that being said, I have been arguing with my district that in class support is simply not enough. I have a tutor that works with him 2 hours per week on math but he simply cannot retain what he learns. I have asked them to provide reinforcement of math skills. They have argued that he is pulled out for too many things already. My suggestion was that it be provided either after school or at recess. The in class support teacher stated that she would work with him after school. She then stated that this service cannot be listed as part of the IEP because the district

typically does not provide support after school. I know this isn't true, but am trying to find a law or something to support my request that it be written into the IEP.

I am frustrated because I work with my son everyday and have also hired someone to help him with math and it is still a struggle. I have had independent testing done on my son to further reinforce the point that he needs further assistance, but the child study team simply sees it as he needs more time to learn rather than changing what we are doing.

Anyway, your thoughts and ideas are always appreciated.

Thanks again,

Luz

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