Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Hello Miela... I am an early educator which is what I use on my son half the time, even though he is really almost 15. I have found that my son who is just finishing up 9th grade this year finds that school is boring mostly because he understands everything first time around and doesn't know why everyone has to keep rehashing it. The other thing is, he has to be interested in a subject to get something out of the class. My boy wont take notes which throws his teachers into fits and he gets points off for it (in some classes) but will score well on tests. If he listens in class he gets the information. However he hates anything to do with computer applications. So talk to him, find out what he feels he needs. Does he like the classes he is taking? Does he understand the classes? What is important to him? What kinds of classes does he like to take, english, math, science, art? Somehow you will develop a pattern of how the classes should be structured to help him get the most out of his classes and he will be able to do well. TammyOn Sat, May 3, 2008 at 3:28 AM, Dee-Don <pjdxxxwa@...> wrote: Hello Miela, I am glad to see you recognize your limitations with being too close to the forrest to see all those trees. <G> Motivation and self starting is certainly difficult for most Aspies from what I have noticed. My son is 14 and when it is something that interest HIM, there is not problem in his self starting. So, interest is a good motivator. If you can pique his interest in what ever subject it is a good start. Having said that, Aspies find most of school BORING because few teachers know how to teach in a visual, hands on manner and that is what most of these kids prefer to keep them interested. I have beat my head against the wall, fought the district here in WA state and have decided that most schools don't want to change teaching styles no matter what ADA, NCLB or IDEA says in the federal laws about giving each child an equal education. However, they will have to change sooner or later if the number are accurate and 1 in 150 kids have some form of autism. Its a shame ours at the beginning of this change. Two things to do: Educate the school district about Asperger's Synndrome and Autistic Spectrum Disorders. And enlist the help of a professional: A clinical psychologist or psychiatrist who has hands on advanced training with functionally autistic kids to inform the district what the needs of these kids are and then threated a law suit if they implement the doctor's orders as put down in the law. May I suggest you read as much as you can from OASIS and its connected links about Asperger's, then go to the ED.gov and review the education laws for public schools when it comes to kids with disabilities? Knowing the law and what is needed to help these kids succeed is your main ammo. when districts tell you they " don't have enough funding to do specialized programs for a few kids " . You come back with " That's the law..I pay taxes ....you get extra money for my child...do it or I will see you in court. " That is the reality of the situation for most of us when it comes to our child getting the same education as the NT kids. Most of the time, from what I have heard and read from other parents, is that unless pushed these kids will be put in to resource rooms and just pushed through with subsitute subjects to graduate high school, but not the proper credits to get into a 4 year college. Dee ><)))*> > > Hi-just by way of introduction-I have a 13 yo stepson just diagnosed with AS and having lots of trouble with school and negativity, depression. I'm doing all that I can doctorwise for him, I am a pediatric naturopath, but find that 1. I'm way to close to him to be effective and so he sees someone else for that stuff. But parentwise-sometimes I'm good and other times I'm just at a loss. The stuff that is hardest for me to figure out how to help with is self-starting, and the negativity. Not sure how to break through with that. He's had a tough time with school this year, this is really the first year that he's gotten really bad grades, because of being constantly confused about what he is supposed to be doing. We are spending hours actly is due when, and how to do it. Once he knows what he should do, he does it, but it really takes a lot to get him there. Teachers think that because he can do the actual work, he is perfectly capable, > and don't get the rest. Anyway-that's us in a nutshell-at least this week! > Forest Family Medicine > 10 Crossroads Plaza > West Hartford, Ct 06117 > 860-570-9825 > > > __________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 My response to this is: Read all you can, learn all you can, and then, recognize that there is not really a right or wrong answer, Dr. Gruber-Cooley. These children frustrate ALL of us, no matter our intellectual levels, patience levels, skills, etc. These children ARE full time jobs. Truth is, I would suggest a complete educational assessment to find and discover true learning disabilities, as a school has to address them (they MAY NOT) but that is what you can use to advocate with and TRY. We TRIED and now homeschool, but no school wants our smart children that are completely capable but ...............(you fill in the blank--- 'normal' junior high kid with hormones and rebellious.......refusing to do home work.............refuses to take notes...........whatever and yadayadayada)............... My SON cannot take notes and listen at the same time; he can do ONE THING AT A TIME, literally. If the teacher wants him to listen, he will; write, he will; he cannot do both and NOT be either overwhelmed or writing and not hearing a word you said. Well, SCHOOL could CARE A LESS about this. So, we pulled our son. But, we at least know that he has genuine memory issues, extremely slow processing skills (teach him everything today and he will know nothing---tomorrow, it is like he sponged it all in over night and learned it all----it is weird but TRUE). That is at least a way to try to get some answers that the school MAY listen to. As a parent, we have battled the school and lost / gave up after 4 full years; our son needs help to get from 4th to 8th grade, so we took that on; he quit at 4th grade, as that is when we moved and our new school refused to provide him special needs services, so he was still there as he got nothing out of school from 4th to 8th grade. Have a great day, and go do the right thing (as Dr. would say)............ Ruthie Dolezal Dr Miela Gruber-Cooley <drmamame@...> wrote:>> Hi-just by way of introduction-I have a 13 yo stepson just diagnosed with AS and having lots of trouble with school and negativity, depression. I'm doing all that I can doctorwise for him, I am a pediatric naturopath, but find that 1. I'm way to close to him to be effective and so he sees someone else for that stuff. But parentwise-sometimes I'm good and other times I'm just at a loss. The stuff that is hardest for me to figure out how to help with is self-starting, and the negativity. Not sure how to break through with that. He's had a tough time with school this year, this is really the first year that he's gotten really bad grades, because of being constantly confused about what he is supposed to be doing. We are spending hours actly is due when, and how to do it. Once he knows what he should do, he does it, but it really takes a lot to get him there. Teachers think that because he can do the actual work, he is perfectly capable,> and don't get the rest. Anyway-that's us in a nutshell-at least this week!> Forest Family Medicine> 10 Crossroads Plaza> West Hartford, Ct 06117> 860-570-9825> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Isn't that great, Robin? That is what I love about this sight; I am NOT alone anymore, nor is my family, but I am getting sooooo mad about it, that I am going to try to make it better by going back to school............I am just one person, but Rome was not built in a day!!!! Ruthie From: jrisjs@...Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 17:29:27 -0700Subject: RE: ( ) Re: new member-intro Man,,,,,when you are writing about your son,,,,,I swear you're writing about mine. hee hee. Robin Normal is just a cycle on a washing machine!! Powered by CafeMom Toolbar - Get yours today! BRYAN DOLEZAL <DOLEZAL123msn> wrote: My response to this is: Read all you can, learn all you can, and then, recognize that there is not really a right or wrong answer, Dr. Gruber-Cooley. These children frustrate ALL of us, no matter our intellectual levels, patience levels, skills, etc. These children ARE full time jobs. Truth is, I would suggest a complete educational assessment to find and discover true learning disabilities, as a school has to address them (they MAY NOT) but that is what you can use to advocate with and TRY. We TRIED and now homeschool, but no school wants our smart children that are completely capable but ...............(you fill in the blank--- 'normal' junior high kid with hormones and rebellious.......refusing to do home work.............refuses to take notes...........whatever and yadayadayada)............... My SON cannot take notes and listen at the same time; he can do ONE THING AT A TIME, literally. If the teacher wants him to listen, he will; write, he will; he cannot do both and NOT be either overwhelmed or writing and not hearing a word you said. Well, SCHOOL could CARE A LESS about this. So, we pulled our son. But, we at least know that he has genuine memory issues, extremely slow processing skills (teach him everything today and he will know nothing---tomorrow, it is like he sponged it all in over night and learned it all----it is weird but TRUE). That is at least a way to try to get some answers that the school MAY listen to. As a parent, we have battled the school and lost / gave up after 4 full years; our son needs help to get from 4th to 8th grade, so we took that on; he quit at 4th grade, as that is when we moved and our new school refused to provide him special needs services, so he was still there as he got nothing out of school from 4th to 8th grade. Have a great day, and go do the right thing (as Dr. would say)............ Ruthie Dolezal Dr Miela Gruber-Cooley <drmamame@...> wrote:>> Hi-just by way of introduction-I have a 13 yo stepson just diagnosed with AS and having lots of trouble with school and negativity, depression. I'm doing all that I can doctorwise for him, I am a pediatric naturopath, but find that 1. I'm way to close to him to be effective and so he sees someone else for that stuff. But parentwise-sometimes I'm good and other times I'm just at a loss. The stuff that is hardest for me to figure out how to help with is self-starting, and the negativity. Not sure how to break through with that. He's had a tough time with school this year, this is really the first year that he's gotten really bad grades, because of being constantly confused about what he is supposed to be doing. We are spending hours actly is due when, and how to do it. Once he knows what he should do, he does it, but it really takes a lot to get him there. Teachers think that because he can do the actual work, he is perfectly capable,> and don't get the rest. Anyway-that's us in a nutshell-at least this week!> Forest Family Medicine> 10 Crossroads Plaza> West Hartford, Ct 06117> 860-570-9825> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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