Re: 1 - Worst Sped experience?

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I'd have to say so far (and keep in mind I've only been dealing with the schools for about 1/2 a year) is when, during an IEP meeting at which I'd requested a full eval. of to determine his needs because I suspected ASD, the school psychologist said "I don't think that is autistic, so we are not going to do any evaluations beyond what have already been done." All that had been done were speech/language based testing...no educational evals. or ANYTHING else. This resulted in NOTHING being provided by the school other than speech therapy for 1/2 hour once a week.It also resulted in me pursuing a dx. on my own, which we got over the summer, at which point we were told "Yes, he's hfa, and needs an intensive autism educational program ASAP." So, now we're back dealing with the school, and the school psych, who looks like an idiot in my sight because not only did she "diagnose" him as being fine, but she was unwilling to do any testing to at least look at the possibility of educational need. Because, after all, SpEd is provided based on need rather than diagnosis, and there IS a need. And, I am truly now against having her test for ANYTHING, because I don't trust her judgement. By that little comment, and the unwillingness to at least look at the possibility of SpEd needs in my child, she's totally discredited herself. Could she actually be a good school psych who screwed up? Sure...but she should have really watched what she said regarding my child, because it's coming back to bite her in the butt.Mina Mina SmolinskiMommy to: 9/25/02 - NT 5/13/04 - HFAOwen 7/1/05 - HFA with HyperlexiaLila 3/3/07 - NT On Sep 9, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Roxanna wrote:It is "that time of year" again when I start looking for information to do a talk about being the parent of a child with sped needs. Our sped director teaches a class over at Kent and she has asked us (me and my dh) to come and do a talk to her class about the problems/unique situations we face as parents of children with special needs. SO! With that in mind, in the past I have always asked YOU (all the experts!) to let me know the kinds of things you would want to say to school psychologists-in-training. I won't use anyone's name - I do quote directly sometimes but will replace names with pronouns. First question: What is the worst sped experience you have had in dealing with the schools? I separated the three questions I have so people can respond to one, two or all three questions as they feel like doing (or none at all, if you don't want to - but I hope you do!) I do appreciate the insight and help with this project of mine! RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else...

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One of my worst experiences has been this

past year when we moved back to so Cal.

It took 2 weeks just for the school (which happens to be across the street) to

let me enroll my son. Then it was a fight the whole time. The whole three

months was a nightmare. They wanted me to put my 6 years old back in diapers

because he has no control of his bowel movements. I said no. He’s old

enough to realize that 6 year olds don’t wear diapers and he goes once a

week. He asked to wear “big boy undies”. But I think that the

worst thing in that time was in an IEP meeting trying to get them to let my son

go 3 hours instead of 2 the principle said that my son was “bottom of the

barrel” and that he was unteachable.

In fact the sped here is one of the

reasons we’re moving to Akron,

Oh.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Roxanna

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008

7:36 AM

Asperger

Subject: ( ) 1 -

Worst Sped experience?

It is " that time of year "

again when I start looking for information to do a talk about being the parent

of a child with sped needs. Our sped director teaches a class over at Kent and she

has asked us (me and my dh) to come and do a talk to her class about the

problems/unique situations we face as parents of children with special needs.

SO! With that in mind, in the past

I have always asked YOU (all the experts!) to let me know the kinds of things

you would want to say to school psychologists-in-training. I won't

use anyone's name - I do quote directly sometimes but will replace names with

pronouns.

First question: What is the worst

sped experience you have had in dealing with the schools?

I separated the three questions I have

so people can respond to one, two or all three questions as they feel like

doing (or none at all, if you don't want to - but I hope you do!) I do

appreciate the insight and help with this project of mine!

Roxanna

You're Unique

Just like everyone else...

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Our worst was: after spending several hours and several meetings to

hammer out an IEP whereby DS would be in the regular classroom with

access to sped room if he was having trouble, he spent the entire first

month of school in the sped room. Finally the sped teacher admitted

that she had not read the portion of the IEP requiring him to be in the

gen-ed room for all academics, just assuming that he was to be in sped

all day like the other kids. Never mind that I kept asking when he was

going to the gen-ed room......

> First question: What is the worst sped experience you have had in

dealing with the schools?

>

> I separated the three questions I have so people can respond to one,

two or all three questions as they feel like doing (or none at all, if

you don't want to - but I hope you do!) I do appreciate the insight

and help with this project of mine!

[Guest guest]

Our worse experience is the whole school system but the really worse was a special education teacher that said to my grandson heres a quarter call someone who cares

also a principal letting his mother whip him with a belt in the school and then the almighty middle school that will not follow laws or even care that pushed him to a meltdown then jumped on top of him.Of course Chase fought back and said he was gonna kill him well we have been in court over a year for terroristic threatening. We have him on hombound but he will be homeschooled if they push us off hombound ,,It is certainly a struggle /

Now he is suppose to do a personal narrative which he doesnt have feelings like we do so how do you write personal stuff???We live in Corbin Kentucky and their schools dont have to follow any of the laws...Kentucky State advocacy.They say their job is

only to get him back in school...

yeh right so he can be sent off to a mental instituion .........believe me i am scared

From: christyking2 <christyking2@...>Subject: ( ) Re: 1 - Worst Sped experience? Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 12:32 PM

Our worst was: after spending several hours and several meetings to hammer out an IEP whereby DS would be in the regular classroom with access to sped room if he was having trouble, he spent the entire first month of school in the sped room. Finally the sped teacher admitted that she had not read the portion of the IEP requiring him to be in the gen-ed room for all academics, just assuming that he was to be in sped all day like the other kids. Never mind that I kept asking when he was going to the gen-ed room......> First question: What is the worst sped experience you have had in dealing with the schools?> > I separated the three questions I have so people can respond to one, two or all three questions as they feel like doing (or none at all, if you don't want to - but I hope you do!) I do appreciate the insight and help with this project of mine!

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Hands down, this would be Tyler's last year in public school (2 years ago) before we moved him to a private school. Three weeks before the end of school we were having an ARD to discuss an incident that had occurred in Tyler's English class. Teacher had left class alone and Tyler and another student had a confrontation. In Tyler's IEP there were very explicit instructions that he was never to be left in an unstructured environment. During this ARD the assistant principal made the statement, "I will meet with each of his teachers today and make sure they understand and are following his IEP." For the love of Pete, this was the end of the year and he is concerned that Tyler's teachers are not following his IEP and possibly don't understand it. Maybe my son would have had a more successful

year if someone had made sure his teachers read and understood his IEP at the beginning of the year instead of at the end!!From: Roxanna <madideas@...>Subject: ( ) 1 - Worst Sped experience?"Asperger" < >Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 2:35 PM

First question: What is the worst sped experience you have had in dealing with the schools?

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I'm afraid to answer in a way, cause as soon as I post this, I'll think of something else, I'm sure. But,,,,,I still have a stomach ache over the times when the "principal" would call me in because my son had taken up a challenge by a bully to do something, and I would be told that he should have known better. One incident was when a little shit said he'd give Ian $5 if he could beat him up. So,,,,,,,they were at recess and Ian beat the little bast**d up. The little crapper got 2 lost recesses and my son got 3 days in-school suspension for beating a kid up. The SPED teachers' input didn't matter. His IEP didn't matter. I was too "new" to know to fight. I was just grateful at the time that the SPED teachers got to have him for the 3 days and they made it "do-able". This was just one incident. But

"He should have known better" and "You know Ian".....were common comments from this "principal".

Ick. I need some Pepto.

From: Roxanna <madideas@...>Subject: ( ) 1 - Worst Sped experience?"Asperger" < >Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 9:35 AM

It is "that time of year" again when I start looking for information to do a talk about being the parent of a child with sped needs. Our sped director teaches a class over at Kent and she has asked us (me and my dh) to come and do a talk to her class about the problems/unique situations we face as parents of children with special needs.

SO! With that in mind, in the past I have always asked YOU (all the experts!) to let me know the kinds of things you would want to say to school psychologists- in-training. I won't use anyone's name - I do quote directly sometimes but will replace names with pronouns.

First question: What is the worst sped experience you have had in dealing with the schools?

I separated the three questions I have so people can respond to one, two or all three questions as they feel like doing (or none at all, if you don't want to - but I hope you do!) I do appreciate the insight and help with this project of mine!

RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else...

[Guest guest]

My worst experience was when they lost Dylan's evaluation (taken in October 2007, I received the results in November 2007) that finally showed he has Aspergers after the graduate student who did the evaluation left the campus for a paid position at a new school. The evaluation was excellent and the grad student gave me advice on what to ask for and encouraged not to settle for less than what Dylan needed. She was leaving the week after she delivered me the results though. I didn't hear anything in December or January (thought maybe the holidays were holding something up?) so I called the school in early February to find out what the hold up was. I got a call back from the Assistant Principal that they'd LOST the evaluation, nothing had been done to date, and could I

please bring a copy up to the school so they could make a copy? I couldn't believe it! Thank goodness I'm organized...I knew exactly where it was and took it up there that same day. I assumed this whole time the teachers knew about this new diagnosis and were getting assistance from the Spec Ed dept about what it meant and how to work with Dylan. But when I asked the teacher I was closest too if she'd heard any updates about Dylan and she said "no" I took it upon myself to contact each teacher individually and share the Aspergers diagnosis and tips/advice I'd heard/read over the internet (thanks, ladies!) and from past school experience. The head of the Special Education department was mysteriously "replaced" this year and I'm wondering if this was one of the reasons why. She wasn't very good, to say the very least.

( ) 1 - Worst Sped experience?

It is "that time of year" again when I start looking for information to do a talk about being the parent of a child with sped needs. Our sped director teaches a class over at Kent and she has asked us (me and my dh) to come and do a talk to her class about the problems/unique situations we face as parents of children with special needs.

SO! With that in mind, in the past I have always asked YOU (all the experts!) to let me know the kinds of things you would want to say to school psychologists- in-training. I won't use anyone's name - I do quote directly sometimes but will replace names with pronouns.

First question: What is the worst sped experience you have had in dealing with the schools?

I separated the three questions I have so people can respond to one, two or all three questions as they feel like doing (or none at all, if you don't want to - but I hope you do!) I do appreciate the insight and help with this project of mine!

RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else...

[Guest guest]

My worst experience was at an IEP meeting....my husband came. too...I was very angry at his casemanager....she was so nasty to my son and you could tell she disliked him....all she talked about was that she got him to stop picking his nose....well we use to give my son sprite in a gaterade bottle....label pulled off.....she had taken his bottles away and thrown them out when they were empty....but this one day she told him...if you bring it in one more time...I am going to take it and throw it out....I emailed her ans said if she did that I was going to the superintendent of school and report her.

Well, at the iEP meeting we got into it and she said I threatened her...and I said NO I didn't I....I was just stating the facts....and that she had threatened my son. I actually got so upset I started screaming...I told her that I was going to ADVOCATE for my son...he did not buy the soda at school...he brought it from home....I said what are you going to do next throw out his brownie....all because of Pres. Bush and eating healthy....but he did not buy it at school and they can not tell me what he can bring from home to eat or drink.I was so hot under the collar....of couse the principal says "Please please lower your voice". Ugh!

Jan

Jan Rushen

Smile because it is contagious!!!!

From: Roxanna <madideas@...>Subject: ( ) 1 - Worst Sped experience?"Asperger" < >Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 10:35 AM

It is "that time of year" again when I start looking for information to do a talk about being the parent of a child with sped needs. Our sped director teaches a class over at Kent and she has asked us (me and my dh) to come and do a talk to her class about the problems/unique situations we face as parents of children with special needs.

SO! With that in mind, in the past I have always asked YOU (all the experts!) to let me know the kinds of things you would want to say to school psychologists- in-training. I won't use anyone's name - I do quote directly sometimes but will replace names with pronouns.

First question: What is the worst sped experience you have had in dealing with the schools?

I separated the three questions I have so people can respond to one, two or all three questions as they feel like doing (or none at all, if you don't want to - but I hope you do!) I do appreciate the insight and help with this project of mine!

RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else...

[Guest guest]

Dealing with College Community School's, PRAIRIE, in Cedar Rapids, IA, MIDDLE SCHOOl level; the principal, former

guidance counselor, and NOT ANY TEACHERS---the teachers rocked; it was a complete failure at the administrative

level that probably won't improve without the school superintendent or authority doing something to ensure kids at

the MS level get their needs met. It was soooo bad, after 10 grand, we packed our stuff and moved; now, we get more of

what we need.

Ruthie

From: jrushen@...Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:03:24 -0700Subject: Re: ( ) 1 - Worst Sped experience?

My worst experience was at an IEP meeting....my husband came. too...I was very angry at his casemanager....she was so nasty to my son and you could tell she disliked him....all she talked about was that she got him to stop picking his nose....well we use to give my son sprite in a gaterade bottle....label pulled off.....she had taken his bottles away and thrown them out when they were empty....but this one day she told him...if you bring it in one more time...I am going to take it and throw it out....I emailed her ans said if she did that I was going to the superintendent of school and report her.

Well, at the iEP meeting we got into it and she said I threatened her...and I said NO I didn't I....I was just stating the facts....and that she had threatened my son. I actually got so upset I started screaming...I told her that I was going to ADVOCATE for my son...he did not buy the soda at school...he brought it from home....I said what are you going to do next throw out his brownie....all because of Pres. Bush and eating healthy....but he did not buy it at school and they can not tell me what he can bring from home to eat or drink.I was so hot under the collar....of couse the principal says "Please please lower your voice". Ugh!

Jan

Jan Rushen

Smile because it is contagious!!!!

From: Roxanna <madideaszoominternet (DOT) net>Subject: ( ) 1 - Worst Sped experience?"Asperger" < >Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 10:35 AM

It is "that time of year" again when I start looking for information to do a talk about being the parent of a child with sped needs. Our sped director teaches a class over at Kent and she has asked us (me and my dh) to come and do a talk to her class about the problems/unique situations we face as parents of children with special needs.

SO! With that in mind, in the past I have always asked YOU (all the experts!) to let me know the kinds of things you would want to say to school psychologists- in-training. I won't use anyone's name - I do quote directly sometimes but will replace names with pronouns.

First question: What is the worst sped experience you have had in dealing with the schools?

I separated the three questions I have so people can respond to one, two or all three questions as they feel like doing (or none at all, if you don't want to - but I hope you do!) I do appreciate the insight and help with this project of mine!

RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else...