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You can see Winner's "stuff" on her website --> www.socialthinking.com

Roxanna

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dear pam:

i haven't visited this group in awhile as i was spending time at the autism for women group, but am finding the information here to be more useful to me. i have a 12 year daughter, recently diagnosed with aspergers (although i have suspected this for years). it has taken so long for the diagnosis because she can function at school, causing little problem for the teachers. as she has gotten older, however, her weak social skills have become more apparent.

i have been looking for an appropriate social skills group in my area-central california--but having no luck. the "winner" program you mentioned intrigues me. could you please share you experience with the program.

thank you,

melody k.

> >

> > Hi,

> > I just joined, and did a search on social skills, and came up with thousands of hits. And so, I'm sorry if I'm posting a similar question to ones which have previously been discussed, but I had a hard time sifting through all the social skills posts on this mailing list.

> > I have a nine-year-old daughter with AS and ADD. She is a remarkable child, and has come very far. There has been much improvement over the years. However, she still has significant deficits in the area of social thinking and social skills.

> > We have worked with her extensively at home. However, in the school environment, apart from some very basic therapy, there is very little focus on her social skills and pragmatics.

> >

> > I was wondering what your experiences are for those of you who have children with Asperger's in public school systems. Do any of you have teams who will work on a structured approach to training pragmatic language, social skills and social thinking? When I talk about a structured approach, I am thinking about something like the approach used by Winner in her book "Inside out: what makes a person with social cognitive deficits tick?" When I read that book, I realized that's exactly where my daughter is currently with her needs for developing social skills. I also recently got onto the RDI website, and need to look into that further. However, her educational team are just not interested in following any kind of structured approach.

> >

> > I would be very interested to hear your opinions about how educational teams should work towards training appropriate social interaction and social skills within the school environment? What has your experience been with the approach used for your child in their school?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Bridgette

> >

>

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did you try this and was this helpful for you?

From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...> Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 7:56:23 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Re: Structured approach - training social skills "winner"-pam

You can see Winner's "stuff" on her website --> www.socialthinking. com

RoxannaAutism Happens

( ) Re: Structured approach - training social skills "winner"-pam

dear pam:i haven't visited this group in awhile as i was spending time at the autism for women group, but am finding the information here to be more useful to me. i have a 12 year daughter, recently diagnosed with aspergers (although i have suspected this for years). it has taken so long for the diagnosis because she can function at school, causing little problem for the teachers. as she has gotten older, however, her weak social skills have become more apparent.i have been looking for an appropriate social skills group in my area-central california-- but having no luck. the "winner" program you mentioned intrigues me. could you please share you experience with the program.thank you,melody k.> >> > Hi,> > I just joined, and did a search on social skills, and came up with thousands of hits. And so, I'm sorry if I'm posting a similar question to ones which have previously been discussed, but I had a hard time sifting through all the social skills posts on this mailing list.> > I have a nine-year-old daughter with AS and ADD. She is a

remarkable child, and has come very far. There has been much improvement over the years. However, she still has significant deficits in the area of social thinking and social skills.> > We have worked with her extensively at home. However, in the school environment, apart from some very basic therapy, there is very little focus on her social skills and pragmatics.> > > > I was wondering what your experiences are for those of you who have children with Asperger's in public school systems. Do any of you have teams who will work on a structured approach to training pragmatic language, social skills and social thinking? When I talk about a structured approach, I am thinking about something like the approach used by Winner in her book "Inside out: what makes a person with social cognitive deficits tick?" When I read that book, I realized that's exactly where my daughter is currently with her needs for developing

social skills. I also recently got onto the RDI website, and need to look into that further. However, her educational team are just not interested in following any kind of structured approach.> > > > I would be very interested to hear your opinions about how educational teams should work towards training appropriate social interaction and social skills within the school environment? What has your experience been with the approach used for your child in their school?> > > > Thanks,> > Bridgette> >>

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Pam,

It amazes me how much I continue to learn on this site. This is very interesting and something I need to try.

Could you recommend where I should start. like what book or DVD should I start with? I'm thinking with the social thinking since you said it was parent friendly. As soon as I can watch the video - I would love to discuss this online and like to hear from others too.

Thanks for posting this - I'm going to save your post in my folder so I can look more into this tomorrow. Have you watched any of these videos online?. I will check to see what I can find. (I would like to share this with the school too).

thanks again

Rose

From: susanonderko <susanonderko@...> Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 2:58:34 PMSubject: ( ) Re: Structured approach - training social skills "winner"-pam

There is so much in Winner's books it's hard for me to know where to start. In Think Social there are 66 lessons. The book is amazing because she ties social cognition to the CA state standardsin comprehension. And she proposes very specific IEP goals. I don't have any of this in the IEP. I am trying to figure this our for this months IEP meeting in June. As a parent I scan thru to see what I can teach at home. Some of it I can. I need to be more discipline though to read thru this and focus on specific topics. My daughter's high anxiety about school is in the way of doing much of this. One thing i am not sure how my daughter would respond to being video taped. Winner suggests some of this. My daughter is too vulnerable, too shy to cope with this part.I have her other books and DVD on social thinking and it was moreparent friendly. This is such an amazing program. Maybe we can discuss here

how we could go about putting this in place at home. What would be great is we could watch a section of her video and discuss what we thought online. Pam -- In , Rose <beachbodytan2002@ ...> wrote:>> did you try this and was this helpful for you?> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@.. .>> > Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 7:56:23 AM> Subject: Re: ( ) Re: Structured approach - training social skills "winner"-pam> >

> > > > You can see Winner's "stuff" on her website --> www.socialthinking. com > > > Roxanna> > Autism Happens> > ( ) Re: Structured approach - training social skills "winner"-pam> > > > > > dear pam:> > i haven't visited this group in awhile as i was spending time at the autism for women group, but am finding the information here to be more useful to me. i have a 12 year daughter, recently diagnosed with aspergers (although i have suspected this for years). it has taken so long for the diagnosis because she can function at school, causing little problem for the teachers. as she has gotten older, however, her

weak social skills have become more apparent.> > i have been looking for an appropriate social skills group in my area-central california-- but having no luck. the "winner" program you mentioned intrigues me. could you please share you experience with the program.> > thank you,> melody k.> > > > >> > > Hi,> > > I just joined, and did a search on social skills, and came up with thousands of hits. And so, I'm sorry if I'm posting a similar question to ones which have previously been discussed, but I had a hard time sifting through all the social skills posts on this mailing list.> > > I have a nine-year-old daughter with AS and ADD. She is a remarkable child, and has come very far. There has been much improvement over the years. However, she still has significant deficits in the area of social thinking and social skills.> > > We have worked with her extensively at home. However, in the school environment, apart from some very basic therapy, there is very little focus on her social skills and pragmatics.> > > > > > I was wondering what your experiences are for those of you who have children with Asperger's in

public school systems. Do any of you have teams who will work on a structured approach to training pragmatic language, social skills and social thinking? When I talk about a structured approach, I am thinking about something like the approach used by Winner in her book "Inside out: what makes a person with social cognitive deficits tick?" When I read that book, I realized that's exactly where my daughter is currently with her needs for developing social skills. I also recently got onto the RDI website, and need to look into that further. However, her educational team are just not interested in following any kind of structured approach.> > > > > > I would be very interested to hear your opinions about how educational teams should work towards training appropriate social interaction and social skills within the school environment? What has your experience been with the approach used for your child in their

school?> > > > > > Thanks,> > > Bridgette> > >> >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Shopping for Mom? Save yourself a little time and money on AOL Shopping.>

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Yes. They used one of her books with my ds plus we also used a book called, "Teaching Children with autism to mind read", which is not by Winner. They also added other books as needed. The book they used with my ds from Winner is, "Thinking about you, thinking about me." She probably has more stuff since then. So not sure if there is a better one now.

Roxanna

Autism Happens

( ) Re: Structured approach - training social skills "winner"-pam

dear pam:

i haven't visited this group in awhile as i was spending time at the autism for women group, but am finding the information here to be more useful to me. i have a 12 year daughter, recently diagnosed with aspergers (although i have suspected this for years). it has taken so long for the diagnosis because she can function at school, causing little problem for the teachers. as she has gotten older, however, her weak social skills have become more apparent.

i have been looking for an appropriate social skills group in my area-central california-- but having no luck. the "winner" program you mentioned intrigues me. could you please share you experience with the program.

thank you,

melody k.

> >

> > Hi,

> > I just joined, and did a search on social skills, and came up with thousands of hits. And so, I'm sorry if I'm posting a similar question to ones which have previously been discussed, but I had a hard time sifting through all the social skills posts on this mailing list.

> > I have a nine-year-old daughter with AS and ADD. She is a

remarkable child, and has come very far. There has been much improvement over the years. However, she still has significant deficits in the area of social thinking and social skills.

> > We have worked with her extensively at home. However, in the school environment, apart from some very basic therapy, there is very little focus on her social skills and pragmatics.

> >

> > I was wondering what your experiences are for those of you who have children with Asperger's in public school systems. Do any of you have teams who will work on a structured approach to training pragmatic language, social skills and social thinking? When I talk about a structured approach, I am thinking about something like the approach used by Winner in her book "Inside out: what makes a person with social cognitive deficits tick?" When I read that book, I realized that's exactly where my daughter is currently with her needs for developing

social skills. I also recently got onto the RDI website, and need to look into that further. However, her educational team are just not interested in following any kind of structured approach.

> >

> > I would be very interested to hear your opinions about how educational teams should work towards training appropriate social interaction and social skills within the school environment? What has your experience been with the approach used for your child in their school?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Bridgette

> >

>

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Hi Roxanna,

Looks like I'll be doing lots of reading again. T.Y. for the 411 and book titles...taking my notes again. LOL

Rose

From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...> Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 8:25:29 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Re: Structured approach - training social skills "winner"-pam

Yes. They used one of her books with my ds plus we also used a book called, "Teaching Children with autism to mind read", which is not by Winner. They also added other books as needed. The book they used with my ds from Winner is, "Thinking about you, thinking about me." She probably has more stuff since then. So not sure if there is a better one now.

RoxannaAutism Happens

( ) Re: Structured approach - training social skills "winner"-pam

dear pam:i haven't visited this group in awhile as i was spending time at the autism for women group, but am finding the information here to be more useful to me. i have a 12 year daughter, recently diagnosed with aspergers (although i have suspected this for years). it has taken so long for the diagnosis because she can function at school, causing little problem for the teachers. as she has gotten older, however, her weak social skills have become more apparent.i have been looking for an appropriate social skills group in my area-central california-- but having no luck. the "winner" program you mentioned intrigues me. could you please share you experience with the program.thank you,melody k.> >> > Hi,> > I just joined, and did a search on social skills, and came up with thousands of hits. And so, I'm sorry if I'm posting a similar question to ones which have previously been discussed, but I had a hard time sifting through all the social skills posts on this mailing list.> > I have a nine-year-old daughter with AS and ADD. She is a

remarkable child, and has come very far. There has been much improvement over the years. However, she still has significant deficits in the area of social thinking and social skills.> > We have worked with her extensively at home. However, in the school environment, apart from some very basic therapy, there is very little focus on her social skills and pragmatics.> > > > I was wondering what your experiences are for those of you who have children with Asperger's in public school systems. Do any of you have teams who will work on a structured approach to training pragmatic language, social skills and social thinking? When I talk about a structured approach, I am thinking about something like the approach used by Winner in her book "Inside out: what makes a person with social cognitive deficits tick?" When I read that book, I realized that's exactly where my daughter is currently with her needs for developing

social skills. I also recently got onto the RDI website, and need to look into that further. However, her educational team are just not interested in following any kind of structured approach.> > > > I would be very interested to hear your opinions about how educational teams should work towards training appropriate social interaction and social skills within the school environment? What has your experience been with the approach used for your child in their school?> > > > Thanks,> > Bridgette> >>

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Another good book that I personally used to plan what to write on the IEP is, "Super Skills" which you can get at amazon. It had a whole list of social skills so I took that list and then used it to ask myself, "Can he do this, can he do that?" That helped me advocate for what he needed specifically. The book also has activities geared towards all of the "curriculum" they outline so that's even better. My school eventually bought the book themselves and use it. Having specific skills stated on the IEP can help with planning what to work on, how to work on it and also determine if he's (she's) successful or not. And we always included that he would be taught the skill 1-1 or small group, then practice it in small group once it was mastered, then they would take data to see how he was using the skill in regular life/regular class. That usually worked out really well for us.

Roxanna

Autism Happens

( ) Re: Structured approach - training social skills "winner"-pam

dear pam:

i haven't visited this group in awhile as i was spending time at the autism for women group, but am finding the information here to be more useful to me. i have a 12 year daughter, recently diagnosed with aspergers (although i have suspected this for years). it has taken so long for the diagnosis because she can function at school, causing little problem for the teachers. as she has gotten older, however, her weak social skills have become more apparent.

i have been looking for an appropriate social skills group in my area-central california-- but having no luck. the "winner" program you mentioned intrigues me. could you please share you experience with the program.

thank you,

melody k.

> >

> > Hi,

> > I just joined, and did a search on social skills, and came up with thousands of hits. And so, I'm sorry if I'm posting a similar question to ones which have previously been discussed, but I had a hard time sifting through all the social skills posts on this mailing list.

> > I have a nine-year-old daughter with AS and ADD. She is a

remarkable child, and has come very far. There has been much improvement over the years. However, she still has significant deficits in the area of social thinking and social skills.

> > We have worked with her extensively at home. However, in the school environment, apart from some very basic therapy, there is very little focus on her social skills and pragmatics.

> >

> > I was wondering what your experiences are for those of you who have children with Asperger's in public school systems. Do any of you have teams who will work on a structured approach to training pragmatic language, social skills and social thinking? When I talk about a structured approach, I am thinking about something like the approach used by Winner in her book "Inside out: what makes a person with social cognitive deficits tick?" When I read that book, I realized that's exactly where my daughter is currently with her needs for developing

social skills. I also recently got onto the RDI website, and need to look into that further. However, her educational team are just not interested in following any kind of structured approach.

> >

> > I would be very interested to hear your opinions about how educational teams should work towards training appropriate social interaction and social skills within the school environment? What has your experience been with the approach used for your child in their school?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Bridgette

> >

>

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Roxanna,

This is now what I have to do (read all this great information and get a list of what's needed) and Hope they will continue to work with us this September. Our CSE meeting won't be for a while but I want to start preparing now. also, they want to invite my son to the meeting but when I start bringing up his weak areas, I hope they will let him leave the room. He is understanding some of his concerns and weak areas. I don't want to lower his self esteem or make him feel bad while discussing or debating what he needs to keep - in front of all his teachers. I would imagine this would be embarrassing for him or who knows how he feels about discussing his personal life in front of so many people.

*I will try to get this super skills book too.

thank you

Rose

From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...> Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 11:55:12 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Re: Structured approach - training social skills "winner"-pam

Another good book that I personally used to plan what to write on the IEP is, "Super Skills" which you can get at amazon. It had a whole list of social skills so I took that list and then used it to ask myself, "Can he do this, can he do that?" That helped me advocate for what he needed specifically. The book also has activities geared towards all of the "curriculum" they outline so that's even better. My school eventually bought the book themselves and use it. Having specific skills stated on the IEP can help with planning what to work on, how to work on it and also determine if he's (she's) successful or not. And we always included that he would be taught the skill 1-1 or small group, then practice it in small group once it was mastered, then they would take data to see how he was using the skill in regular life/regular class. That usually worked out really well

for us.

RoxannaAutism Happens

( ) Re: Structured approach - training social skills "winner"-pam

dear pam:i haven't visited this group in awhile as i was spending time at the autism for women group, but am finding the information here to be more useful to me. i have a 12 year daughter, recently diagnosed with aspergers (although i have suspected this for years). it has taken so long for the diagnosis because she can function at school, causing little problem for the teachers. as she has gotten older, however, her weak social skills have become more apparent.i have been looking for an appropriate social skills group in my area-central california-- but having no luck. the "winner" program you mentioned intrigues me. could you please share you experience with the program.thank you,melody k.> >> > Hi,> > I just joined, and did a search on social skills, and came up with thousands of hits. And so, I'm sorry if I'm posting a similar question to ones which have previously been discussed, but I had a hard time sifting through all the social skills posts on this mailing list.> > I have a nine-year-old daughter with AS and ADD. She is a

remarkable child, and has come very far. There has been much improvement over the years. However, she still has significant deficits in the area of social thinking and social skills.> > We have worked with her extensively at home. However, in the school environment, apart from some very basic therapy, there is very little focus on her social skills and pragmatics.> > > > I was wondering what your experiences are for those of you who have children with Asperger's in public school systems. Do any of you have teams who will work on a structured approach to training pragmatic language, social skills and social thinking? When I talk about a structured approach, I am thinking about something like the approach used by Winner in her book "Inside out: what makes a person with social cognitive deficits tick?" When I read that book, I realized that's exactly where my daughter is currently with her needs for developing

social skills. I also recently got onto the RDI website, and need to look into that further. However, her educational team are just not interested in following any kind of structured approach.> > > > I would be very interested to hear your opinions about how educational teams should work towards training appropriate social interaction and social skills within the school environment? What has your experience been with the approach used for your child in their school?> > > > Thanks,> > Bridgette> >>

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