Re: Structured approach - training social skills winner-pam

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dear pam:

i haven't visited this group in awhile as i was spending time at the autism for

women group, but am finding the information here to be more useful to me. i

have a 12 year daughter, recently diagnosed with aspergers (although i have

suspected this for years). it has taken so long for the diagnosis because she

can function at school, causing little problem for the teachers. as she has

gotten older, however, her weak social skills have become more apparent.

i have been looking for an appropriate social skills group in my area-central

california--but having no luck. the " winner " program you mentioned intrigues

me. could you please share you experience with the program.

thank you,

melody k.

> >

> > Hi,

> > I just joined, and did a search on social skills, and came up with thousands

of hits. And so, I'm sorry if I'm posting a similar question to ones which have

previously been discussed, but I had a hard time sifting through all the social

skills posts on this mailing list.

> > I have a nine-year-old daughter with AS and ADD. She is a remarkable child,

and has come very far. There has been much improvement over the years. However,

she still has significant deficits in the area of social thinking and social

skills.

> > We have worked with her extensively at home. However, in the school

environment, apart from some very basic therapy, there is very little focus on

her social skills and pragmatics.

> >

> > I was wondering what your experiences are for those of you who have children

with Asperger's in public school systems. Do any of you have teams who will work

on a structured approach to training pragmatic language, social skills and

social thinking? When I talk about a structured approach, I am thinking about

something like the approach used by Winner in her book " Inside

out: what makes a person with social cognitive deficits tick? " When I read that

book, I realized that's exactly where my daughter is currently with her needs

for developing social skills. I also recently got onto the RDI website, and

need to look into that further. However, her educational team are just not

interested in following any kind of structured approach.

> >

> > I would be very interested to hear your opinions about how educational teams

should work towards training appropriate social interaction and social skills

within the school environment? What has your experience been with the approach

used for your child in their school?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Bridgette

> >

>

[Guest guest]

There is so much in Winner's books it's hard for me to know where to start. In

Think Social there are 66 lessons. The book is amazing because she ties social

cognition to the CA state standards

in comprehension. And she proposes very specific IEP goals.

I don't have any of this in the IEP. I am trying to figure this our for this

months IEP meeting in June.

As a parent I scan thru to see what I can teach at home. Some of it I can. I

need to be more discipline though to read thru this and focus

on specific topics. My daughter's high anxiety about school is

in the way of doing much of this.

One thing i am not sure how my daughter would respond to being

video taped. Winner suggests some of this. My daughter is too vulnerable, too

shy to cope with this part.

I have her other books and DVD on social thinking and it was more

parent friendly.

This is such an amazing program. Maybe we can discuss here how we could go about

putting this in place at home.

What would be great is we could watch a section of her video and

discuss what we thought online.

Pam

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> Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 7:56:23 AM

> Subject: Re: ( ) Re: Structured approach - training social

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> You can see Winner's " stuff " on her website -->  www.socialthinking.

com

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> Roxanna

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> Autism Happens

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> ( ) Re: Structured approach - training social skills

" winner " -pam

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> dear pam:

>

> i haven't visited this group in awhile as i was spending time at the autism

for women group, but am finding the information here to be more useful to me. i

have a 12 year daughter, recently diagnosed with aspergers (although i have

suspected this for years). it has taken so long for the diagnosis because she

can function at school, causing little problem for the teachers. as she has

gotten older, however, her weak social skills have become more apparent.

>

> i have been looking for an appropriate social skills group in my area-central

california-- but having no luck. the " winner " program you mentioned intrigues

me. could you please share you experience with the program.

>

> thank you,

> melody k.

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > I just joined, and did a search on social skills, and came up with

thousands of hits. And so, I'm sorry if I'm posting a similar question to ones

which have previously been discussed, but I had a hard time sifting through all

the social skills posts on this mailing list.

> > > I have a nine-year-old daughter with AS and ADD. She is a remarkable

child, and has come very far. There has been much improvement over the years.

However, she still has significant deficits in the area of social thinking and

social skills.

> > > We have worked with her extensively at home. However, in the school

environment, apart from some very basic therapy, there is very little focus on

her social skills and pragmatics.

> > >

> > > I was wondering what your experiences are for those of you who have

children with Asperger's in public school systems. Do any of you have teams who

will work on a structured approach to training pragmatic language, social skills

and social thinking? When I talk about a structured approach, I am thinking

about something like the approach used by Winner in her book

" Inside out: what makes a person with social cognitive deficits tick? " When I

read that book, I realized that's exactly where my daughter is currently with

her needs for developing social skills. I also recently got onto the RDI

website, and need to look into that further. However, her educational team are

just not interested in following any kind of structured approach.

> > >

> > > I would be very interested to hear your opinions about how educational

teams should work towards training appropriate social interaction and social

skills within the school environment? What has your experience been with the

approach used for your child in their school?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Bridgette

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

thank you all for responding to my question.... it has been so helpful. We had

a disappointing iep meeting yesterday ... the social worker and SLP just don't

see the need for a structured approach. I gave them the Winner book and they

gave it back saying that their methods were fine !!! I have to run to work, b

ut I'll post later - I think the discussion about these approaches would be

great.

Thanks,

Bridgette

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> >       did you try this and was this helpful for you?

[Guest guest]

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> Another good book that I personally used to plan what to write on the IEP is,

" Super Skills " which you can get at amazon.? It had a whole list of social

skills so I took that list and then used it to ask myself, " Can he do this, can

he do that? " ? That helped me advocate for what he needed specifically.?

Is this it Roxanna?

http://www.amazon.com/Super-Skills-Children-High-Functioning-Challenges/dp/19312\

82676/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1241801631 & sr=1-1

I sure wish I could find something like this for teenagers. This book is

designed for elementary schoolers, according to the author. I need something

fast. We have an IEP meeting May 27. Does anybody know of anything like this

designed for teenagers?

Ruth