Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 > > Ruth, > we had an IEP forever - never been without one and I've never seen it as a draft IEP before nor have I ever been to a 2nd meeting to finalize it. I've never seen the words case manager before either. (on the IEP) this is the first year while in middle school that it said draft IEP or case manager. I'm going to check to see if there is another meeting. They never did it this way in elementary school. > From what I understand from your post - because this is a draft IEP, they can still turn this down when they finalize it? ugh! I thought having this IEP meeting did finalize it. I was at this meeting with all his teachers, principal too. Rose, I'm sorry, I was not very clear and didn't put this very well. The draft IEP is not typically done in an IEP meeting. A school staff member or a team of school staff members typically puts it together outside of IEP meetings, before the IEP meeting where it is to be proposed. By draft, I mean whatever they present at the IEP meeting. They may not call it a draft, but they have something they start with. They aren't going to show up to your child's IEP meeting with no idea on what they are going to put in his/her IEP, right? So, yes, this IEP meeting you had with the whole team was the real deal--they aren't going to be calling a second meeting to confirm it. The draft came before this meeting and was what they presented as a proposed IEP that you all discussed and changed as needed. As far as the case manager goes--maybe elementary kids don't have case managers since they have fewer teachers. Remember all states and school districts are different--the way Jan's school district and my school district do things may not be the same as your school district. You've been doing this so long, they probably think they don't need to explain things to you anymore. At my meeting the school diagnostician announced she had written the IEP in a meeting with all the core teachers (it was understood with the extensive recommendations of the autism team), and it was explained to us how our son would have a monitoring teacher (case manager) and how that would work. But they might have thought you already knew all that. Since the case manager is an automatic thing that comes with special ed services in high school, it is not something you have to approve, so they wouldn't " have " to discuss it. Same goes for where the IEP comes from. Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 I have had drafts before too...we go in and work on it and then they have to make all the revisions...they then send it home for me to sign and after I sign..they send it to the Assistant Superintendent of Special Education. Since you IEP is new...maybe they will be assigning your child a Case Manager. I am not sure how your school works.... Jan Janice Rushen "I will try to be open to all avenues of wisdom and hope" From: Rose <beachbodytan2002@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Question? - Ruth Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 10:07 AM Ruth, we had an IEP forever - never been without one and I've never seen it as a draft IEP before nor have I ever been to a 2nd meeting to finalize it. I've never seen the words case manager before either. (on the IEP) this is the first year while in middle school that it said draft IEP or case manager. I'm going to check to see if there is another meeting. They never did it this way in elementary school. From what I understand from your post - because this is a draft IEP, they can still turn this down when they finalize it? ugh! I thought having this IEP meeting did finalize it. I was at this meeting with all his teachers, principal too. Rose From: r_woman2 <me2ruth (DOT) com> Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2009 9:42:42 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Question? >> A case manager is the teacher who works with your student, she/he writes the IEP, handles your child's case, oversees everything. Who wrote the IEP???? My son's IEP was written by the school diagnostician, in conference with all his core teachers (all general ed) and with reference to the autism team's recommendations. Since this is his first IEP, he doesn't have a case manager yet. They call case managers "monitoring teachers" in our school district. And, as you know, what the case manager is writing is the first draft of the IEP. The IEP is finalized in a full team meeting that includes the parent(s). Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 The IEP that is written before the meeting should always be a "draft IEP." This is because the IEP goals are supposed to be written and agreed to by the IEP team - which includes the parent. When you go over the IEP, you can add to it or ask to have things taken out or discuss things you want worded differently. You can even request a copy of the draft IEP before the meeting to go over it, if you want to. You can write goals and objectives yourself to add to the IEP as well. Then once everyone has gone over everything and agreed to it, it gets signed. Then it is the official IEP. Roxanna Autism Happens Re: ( ) Question? > > A case manager is the teacher who works with your student, she/he writes the IEP, handles your child's case, oversees everything. Who wrote the IEP???? My son's IEP was written by the school diagnostician, in conference with all his core teachers (all general ed) and with reference to the autism team's recommendations. Since this is his first IEP, he doesn't have a case manager yet. They call case managers "monitoring teachers" in our school district. And, as you know, what the case manager is writing is the first draft of the IEP. The IEP is finalized in a full team meeting that includes the parent(s). Ruth Wanna slim down for summer? Go to America Takes it Off to learn how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 > > Ruth, I have been getting such a run around and so many surprises & stress at these past CSE meetings that I can't believe things went this well and they are going to work with my son and now see what I've been trying to tell them. They actually wrote everything he needs. I still can't believe this!.... > *Sorry for misunderstanding your last post to me. I just can't believe this IEP....It's like I'm waiting for someone to say this was a mistake and make changes....God I hope not. This is where I am at too. Scared to death the other shoe is going to drop LOL... (Do I have that right?) I can't believe we may actually be able to relax and enjoy the summer! Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Hi i totally sympathize with you and all the run around you have gotten as i too have been there i recieved word at meeting on may 29 that my son now too will recieve supports and services at school when we return, we have yet to have iep but i met with the learning support teacher and the speech therapist principal and others and they really made me feel good, and i believe with all my heart that i finally have my son in a public school that will help him. sherryFrom: r_woman2 <me2ruth@...> Sent: Monday, June 8, 2009 5:39:46 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Question? - Ruth > > Ruth, I have been getting such a run around and so many surprises & stress at these past CSE meetings that I can't believe things went this well and they are going to work with my son and now see what I've been trying to tell them. They actually wrote everything he needs. I still can't believe this!.... > *Sorry for misunderstanding your last post to me. I just can't believe this IEP....It's like I'm waiting for someone to say this was a mistake and make changes....God I hope not. This is where I am at too. Scared to death the other shoe is going to drop LOL... (Do I have that right?) I can't believe we may actually be able to relax and enjoy the summer! Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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