Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Have you asked your son why he does not want to go to his classes? Do they offer anything like him having someone with him during his classes, like a shadow? Don't know if they do this for college age. Is he nervous in class? My son is planning to go to college this fall after he graduates this month, he is 19 yrs old. I am hoping that they will allow someone to be with him because he is nervous around people he does not know. Maybe the work is hard for him. I hope you can get him to open up to you and let you know what is going on. Good luck. pj Hi, I'm a mom who's dumbfounded as to what to do or how to help our ds. He says he wants to go to college. He chose his classes which are just 2 this quarter but then he doesn't go to class. He go sometimes to the tutor. He has the depression to deal with and also avoidance issues but .... he goes off to class supposedly and when he comes home he acts and talks like he's been in class and everything is ok. Only when I contact the instructor do we find out he has not been in class and not always meeting with the tutor. When we talk we don't get answers that hellp. We go over and over the need to be honest with us. I just wondered if anyone was dealing with similar difficulties with a son or daughter? We're just about to tell him to forget college. Why put himself and us too through it if he's not willing to go. Appreciate the time to share here. Thanks Ginny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 > > Hi, I'm a mom who's dumbfounded as to what to do or how to help our ds. He says he wants to go to college. He chose his classes which are just 2 this quarter but then he doesn't go to class. Gee, I would hate to see you give up on college! My first thought is maybe you might want to think about pulling him out of this particular college and finding one that has supports for Asperger kids. They do exist. My aspie is only in 8th grade so I haven't experienced this myself. But I've been listening to college parents talk on these lists. There are colleges out there, a few that actually have programs just for aspies, and some that just have good disability services. From what they say, you will need to take the time to interview the people in the disability office at each college. So, it takes some work. But I think it would be worth it to find a college that is a fit for your son. I will be doing the same in a couple of years! Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 It could be he is not ready for college yet. He may need a few more years before he can commit to college. Not everyone is ready to go to college after high school. He may need a few years to just work a job and think and mature before he is ready to commit. College is not the right route for everyone. Talk to him about his job goals and see if they can be met in a career tech type setting. Or if he can get a mentor in the field he wants and go straight to work. Talk to the disability office. See if you can figure out what the problem is with going to class. If he feels he is defeated before he starts, then he might balk at even trying. What does he need to be successful in the classes he is in? It may be this is not the right college. Is it too large? He might do better in a smaller setting. Could he attend a junior college first and get his basics out of the way in a smaller setting? You mentioned depression - is he taking meds for his depression? I would probably start there and get that under control, then fan out and figure out what the problem is. And enlist his help in finding solutions. Without his cooperation, you won't get anywhere. Make a plan with baby steps and work with him to get him to follow through. But make sure this is something he really wants to do. It is really hard to know what to suggest without knowing why he isn't following through...but these are some ideas. Roxanna Autism Happens ( ) Son's in college but doesn't go to class Hi, I'm a mom who's dumbfounded as to what to do or how to help our ds. He says he wants to go to college. He chose his classes which are just 2 this quarter but then he doesn't go to class. He go sometimes to the tutor. He has the depression to deal with and also avoidance issues but .... he goes off to class supposedly and when he comes home he acts and talks like he's been in class and everything is ok. Only when I contact the instructor do we find out he has not been in class and not always meeting with the tutor. When we talk we don't get answers that hellp. We go over and over the need to be honest with us. I just wondered if anyone was dealing with similar difficulties with a son or daughter? We're just about to tell him to forget college. Why put himself and us too through it if he's not willing to go. Appreciate the time to share here. Thanks Ginny We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Midwestern State University (Texas) has a program specifically for individuals with Autism/Asperger’s. Maybe you can take some ideas from it. http://education.mwsu.edu/asp/ Tonya From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Roxanna Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:51 AM Subject: Re: ( ) Son's in college but doesn't go to class It could be he is not ready for college yet. He may need a few more years before he can commit to college. Not everyone is ready to go to college after high school. He may need a few years to just work a job and think and mature before he is ready to commit. College is not the right route for everyone. Talk to him about his job goals and see if they can be met in a career tech type setting. Or if he can get a mentor in the field he wants and go straight to work. Talk to the disability office. See if you can figure out what the problem is with going to class. If he feels he is defeated before he starts, then he might balk at even trying. What does he need to be successful in the classes he is in? It may be this is not the right college. Is it too large? He might do better in a smaller setting. Could he attend a junior college first and get his basics out of the way in a smaller setting? You mentioned depression - is he taking meds for his depression? I would probably start there and get that under control, then fan out and figure out what the problem is. And enlist his help in finding solutions. Without his cooperation, you won't get anywhere. Make a plan with baby steps and work with him to get him to follow through. But make sure this is something he really wants to do. It is really hard to know what to suggest without knowing why he isn't following through...but these are some ideas. Roxanna Autism Happens ( ) Son's in college but doesn't go to class Hi, I'm a mom who's dumbfounded as to what to do or how to help our ds. He says he wants to go to college. He chose his classes which are just 2 this quarter but then he doesn't go to class. He go sometimes to the tutor. He has the depression to deal with and also avoidance issues but .... he goes off to class supposedly and when he comes home he acts and talks like he's been in class and everything is ok. Only when I contact the instructor do we find out he has not been in class and not always meeting with the tutor. When we talk we don't get answers that hellp. We go over and over the need to be honest with us. I just wondered if anyone was dealing with similar difficulties with a son or daughter? We're just about to tell him to forget college. Why put himself and us too through it if he's not willing to go. Appreciate the time to share here. Thanks Ginny We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 What a great program! Thanks for sharing the link. "Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out." From: Tonya Hettler <txua@...> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 7:54:34 PMSubject: RE: ( ) Son's in college but doesn't go to class Midwestern State University (Texas) has a program specifically for individuals with Autism/Asperger’s. Maybe you can take some ideas from it. http://education. mwsu.edu/ asp/ Tonya From: [mailto:AspergersSu pport@group s.com] On Behalf Of RoxannaSent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:51 AM Subject: Re: ( ) Son's in college but doesn't go to class It could be he is not ready for college yet. He may need a few more years before he can commit to college. Not everyone is ready to go to college after high school. He may need a few years to just work a job and think and mature before he is ready to commit.College is not the right route for everyone. Talk to him about his job goals and see if they can be met in a career tech type setting. Or if he can get a mentor in the field he wants and go straight to work. Talk to the disability office. See if you can figure out what the problem is with going to class. If he feels he is defeated before he starts, then he might balk at even trying. What does he need to be successful in the classes he is in? It may be this is not the right college. Is it too large? He might do better in a smaller setting. Could he attend a junior college first and get his basics out of the way in a smaller setting?You mentioned depression - is he taking meds for his depression? I would probably start there and get that under control, then fan out and figure out what the problem is. And enlist his help in finding solutions. Without his cooperation, you won't get anywhere. Make a plan with baby steps and work with him to get him to follow through. But make sure this is something he really wants to do. It is really hard to know what to suggest without knowing why he isn't following through...but these are some ideas. RoxannaAutism Happens ( ) Son's in college but doesn't go to class Hi, I'm a mom who's dumbfounded as to what to do or how to help our ds. He says he wants to go to college. He chose his classes which are just 2 this quarter but then he doesn't go to class. He go sometimes to the tutor. He has the depression to deal with and also avoidance issues but .... he goes off to class supposedly and when he comes home he acts and talks like he's been in class and everything is ok. Only when I contact the instructor do we find out he has not been in class and not always meeting with the tutor. When we talk we don't get answers that hellp. We go over and over the need to be honest with us. I just wondered if anyone was dealing with similar difficulties with a son or daughter? We're just about to tell him to forget college. Why put himself and us too through it if he's not willing to go. Appreciate the time to share here. Thanks Ginny We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Vanderbilt University is also starting a similar program for 2010. But only for 9 students...and did you see that this one in Texas has lost their funding? Sad. Sounded great. There is also a program called College Living Experience (http://www.cleinc.net/locations.aspx) that offers supports of all kinds to special needs students. I would like to take these ideas to our local universities and see what they could do, it is just SUCH a horrible time to ask anyone to start something new that costs money. All of our universities are slashing budgets, sadly. Sue in TN > > Midwestern State University (Texas) has a program specifically for > individuals with Autism/Asperger's. Maybe you can take some ideas from it. > http://education.mwsu.edu/asp/ > > > > Tonya > > > > From: > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Roxanna > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:51 AM > > Subject: Re: ( ) Son's in college but doesn't go to class > > > > > > > > > It could be he is not ready for college yet. He may need a few more years > before he can commit to college. Not everyone is ready to go to college > after high school. He may need a few years to just work a job and think and > mature before he is ready to commit. > > College is not the right route for everyone. Talk to him about his job > goals and see if they can be met in a career tech type setting. Or if he > can get a mentor in the field he wants and go straight to work. > > Talk to the disability office. See if you can figure out what the problem > is with going to class. If he feels he is defeated before he starts, then > he might balk at even trying. What does he need to be successful in the > classes he is in? > > It may be this is not the right college. Is it too large? He might do > better in a smaller setting. Could he attend a junior college first and get > his basics out of the way in a smaller setting? > > You mentioned depression - is he taking meds for his depression? I would > probably start there and get that under control, then fan out and figure out > what the problem is. And enlist his help in finding solutions. Without his > cooperation, you won't get anywhere. Make a plan with baby steps and work > with him to get him to follow through. But make sure this is something he > really wants to do. It is really hard to know what to suggest without > knowing why he isn't following through...but these are some ideas. > > > > <http://presence.webmail.aol.com/mailsig/?sn=madideas> Roxanna > > Autism Happens > > > > > > ( ) Son's in college but doesn't go to class > > > > Hi, I'm a mom who's dumbfounded as to what to do or how to help our ds. He > says he wants to go to college. He chose his classes which are just 2 this > quarter but then he doesn't go to class. He go sometimes to the tutor. He > has the depression to deal with and also avoidance issues but .... he goes > off to class supposedly and when he comes home he acts and talks like he's > been in class and everything is ok. Only when I contact the instructor do we > find out he has not been in class and not always meeting with the tutor. > When we talk we don't get answers that hellp. We go over and over the need > to be honest with us. > > > > I just wondered if anyone was dealing with similar difficulties with a son > or daughter? > > > > We're just about to tell him to forget college. Why put himself and us too > through it if he's not willing to go. > > > > Appreciate the time to share here. Thanks > > Ginny > > > > > > _____ > > We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you > find? Explore <http://www.whereitsat.com/?ncid=emlwenew00000001> > WhereItsAt.com. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Perhaps you should look into distance education -- programs where he enrolls and does the work via the internet. It may be that he wants to be " in college " and is interested in the subject, but is intimidated by the setting? Maybe doing a distance ed class or two might give him the confidence to try an on-site class? There are tons of distance learning college degree programs available. I started researching distance-ed high schools and was amazed at the opportunities and variety available. Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Do you or others on list know about any similar programs? After reading this I am psched to approach a local private university that is trying to be somewhat of local autism resource center. They would be a perfect fit for this...and they most likely have more money than state universities...so, I have contacted the person on the link, any one with more info about how they worked this please share your info! Thanks SUe in TN > > Midwestern State University (Texas) has a program specifically for > individuals with Autism/Asperger's. Maybe you can take some ideas from it. > http://education.mwsu.edu/asp/ > > > > Tonya > > > > From: > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Roxanna > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:51 AM > > Subject: Re: ( ) Son's in college but doesn't go to class > > > > > > > > > It could be he is not ready for college yet. He may need a few more years > before he can commit to college. Not everyone is ready to go to college > after high school. He may need a few years to just work a job and think and > mature before he is ready to commit. > > College is not the right route for everyone. Talk to him about his job > goals and see if they can be met in a career tech type setting. Or if he > can get a mentor in the field he wants and go straight to work. > > Talk to the disability office. See if you can figure out what the problem > is with going to class. If he feels he is defeated before he starts, then > he might balk at even trying. What does he need to be successful in the > classes he is in? > > It may be this is not the right college. Is it too large? He might do > better in a smaller setting. Could he attend a junior college first and get > his basics out of the way in a smaller setting? > > You mentioned depression - is he taking meds for his depression? I would > probably start there and get that under control, then fan out and figure out > what the problem is. And enlist his help in finding solutions. Without his > cooperation, you won't get anywhere. Make a plan with baby steps and work > with him to get him to follow through. But make sure this is something he > really wants to do. It is really hard to know what to suggest without > knowing why he isn't following through...but these are some ideas. > > > > <http://presence.webmail.aol.com/mailsig/?sn=madideas> Roxanna > > Autism Happens > > > > > > ( ) Son's in college but doesn't go to class > > > > Hi, I'm a mom who's dumbfounded as to what to do or how to help our ds. He > says he wants to go to college. He chose his classes which are just 2 this > quarter but then he doesn't go to class. He go sometimes to the tutor. He > has the depression to deal with and also avoidance issues but .... he goes > off to class supposedly and when he comes home he acts and talks like he's > been in class and everything is ok. Only when I contact the instructor do we > find out he has not been in class and not always meeting with the tutor. > When we talk we don't get answers that hellp. We go over and over the need > to be honest with us. > > > > I just wondered if anyone was dealing with similar difficulties with a son > or daughter? > > > > We're just about to tell him to forget college. Why put himself and us too > through it if he's not willing to go. > > > > Appreciate the time to share here. Thanks > > Ginny > > > > > > _____ > > We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you > find? Explore <http://www.whereitsat.com/?ncid=emlwenew00000001> > WhereItsAt.com. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 > > Vanderbilt University is also starting a similar program for 2010. But only for 9 students...and did you see that this one in Texas has lost their funding? Sad. Sounded great. I wouldn't hold myself just to colleges that have official programs. Some have good disability offices that can accommodate your child if you can give them specific needs to work with. Unfortunately, there is not much to do except visit the schools and start talking. I know MIT has a good program (if you have a very academic child!), and I know someone up in the ivy league school in New Hampshire (sorry forget which one it is) that found a good fit--that student was NLD). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 I have a very non-gifted child, LOL, who actually would have a lot of difficulty with an academic class. But, with the right supports could do it. What I really want is a place for him to live apart from us, and learning skills of independence so he can be on his own. These programs seem to offer that, but I will check with the local disability offices. With TX and Vanderbilt, they got a particular house and put the individuals together for mentoring/coaching in academic and lifeskills. Sue in Tn > > > > Vanderbilt University is also starting a similar program for 2010. But only for 9 students...and did you see that this one in Texas has lost their funding? Sad. Sounded great. > > I wouldn't hold myself just to colleges that have official programs. Some have good disability offices that can accommodate your child if you can give them specific needs to work with. Unfortunately, there is not much to do except visit the schools and start talking. > > I know MIT has a good program (if you have a very academic child!), and I know someone up in the ivy league school in New Hampshire (sorry forget which one it is) that found a good fit--that student was NLD). > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Glad it was helpful! Tonya From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of MacAllister Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:52 AM Subject: Re: ( ) Son's in college but doesn't go to class What a great program! Thanks for sharing the link. " Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out. " From: Tonya Hettler <txua@...> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 7:54:34 PM Subject: RE: ( ) Son's in college but doesn't go to class Midwestern State University (Texas) has a program specifically for individuals with Autism/Asperger’s. Maybe you can take some ideas from it. http://education. mwsu.edu/ asp/ Tonya From: [mailto:AspergersSu pport@group s.com] On Behalf Of Roxanna Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:51 AM Subject: Re: ( ) Son's in college but doesn't go to class It could be he is not ready for college yet. He may need a few more years before he can commit to college. Not everyone is ready to go to college after high school. He may need a few years to just work a job and think and mature before he is ready to commit. College is not the right route for everyone. Talk to him about his job goals and see if they can be met in a career tech type setting. Or if he can get a mentor in the field he wants and go straight to work. Talk to the disability office. See if you can figure out what the problem is with going to class. If he feels he is defeated before he starts, then he might balk at even trying. What does he need to be successful in the classes he is in? It may be this is not the right college. Is it too large? He might do better in a smaller setting. Could he attend a junior college first and get his basics out of the way in a smaller setting? You mentioned depression - is he taking meds for his depression? I would probably start there and get that under control, then fan out and figure out what the problem is. And enlist his help in finding solutions. Without his cooperation, you won't get anywhere. Make a plan with baby steps and work with him to get him to follow through. But make sure this is something he really wants to do. It is really hard to know what to suggest without knowing why he isn't following through...but these are some ideas. Roxanna Autism Happens -----Original Message----- From: ginny rein <ginny_552001> Sent: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:31 pm Subject: ( ) Son's in college but doesn't go to class Hi, I'm a mom who's dumbfounded as to what to do or how to help our ds. He says he wants to go to college. He chose his classes which are just 2 this quarter but then he doesn't go to class. He go sometimes to the tutor. He has the depression to deal with and also avoidance issues but .... he goes off to class supposedly and when he comes home he acts and talks like he's been in class and everything is ok. Only when I contact the instructor do we find out he has not been in class and not always meeting with the tutor. When we talk we don't get answers that hellp. We go over and over the need to be honest with us. I just wondered if anyone was dealing with similar difficulties with a son or daughter? We're just about to tell him to forget college. Why put himself and us too through it if he's not willing to go. Appreciate the time to share here. Thanks Ginny We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 > > I have a very non-gifted child, LOL, who actually would have a lot of difficulty with an academic class. But, with the right supports could do it. What I really want is a place for him to live apart from us, and learning skills of independence so he can be on his own. These programs seem to offer that, but I will check with the local disability offices. With TX and Vanderbilt, they got a particular house and put the individuals together for mentoring/coaching in academic and lifeskills. Another idea I had would be to look for colleges that are highly rated for accommodating disabilities in general, just to give yourself a starting point of where to start looking for accommodating colleges. My husband is blind and we went to Univ. of TX at Austin. They had great accommodations for my husband. They had a whole office with a more or less full-time hired staff person just for blind people, and they really didn't have all that many blind people. They would help with paperwork and coordinate equipment (readers and such). I found out later that that univ is highly rated for disability accommodation. We're not to that point so I haven't asked (and it looks like my aspie may not meet their academic requirements!), but I wouldn't be surprised to find out they don't have something for aspies or wouldn't try to accommodate somehow. I'm not saying I recommend that univ in particular (it is very hard academically--I don't know if I would go there again myself if I had it to do over), but just to say again that I wouldn't limit myself to places with programs already in place. There seems to be somewhat of an increase in some colleges trying to help these kids be successful in college. After all, with the right accommodations, some of these kids could be some of their most promising students, I think. Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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