Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Oh, Man, Two with AS? It sounds like you will have some job ahead of you. However, your youngest will probably benefit from your and the school's learning through your oldest. Well, as to the IEP: How long ago did you move? Are you in the same school district, the same state, or a totally different area? His IEP should have followed him (but I'm not sure all the rules for different areas if you moved far). However, the secretary or the Special Education Teacher should have already requested his IEP. It sounds like something you might have to spend the day at the school requesting and waiting for the faxes from your old school. Especially before the meeting between the principal and teachers. The IEP would go a long way in helping to set up a behavior plan for your oldest with his new school. You should really request that the involved people watch the online video recommended to me on the website bcasc.org Children with Autism parts 1 and 2. It was great and it really could go a long way toward these school workers understanding things a little better. My son had in his behavior plan for all teachers and workers keeping an eye on him so that his frustration could be noticed by a teacher, then he could get a time out space or sent to the counselor to help calm him before he could get into trouble. It also states that several warnings and meetings would have to take place before he was ever suspended. It also gives him the right to have space around him in line, on buses, during assemblies, etc. so that people touching him would not cause so much frustration. All these things, plus other teacher's understanding really has gone a long way to help. As for your younger son, it's a very good possibility that he will just have to get into trouble quite a bit before the school really starts to notice and request the evaluation themselves. It still takes a while, but if the school requests it, it can go faster. However, when you meet with principal and teachers, you might bring up the fact that you believe that he has AS, too. They might be willing to work with you on some of these same ideas to help keep him out of trouble. Once a teacher really understands and sees that these interventions really help, they are much more willing to keep doing them to help keep peace in the classroom. Good luck in your meeting. ah > > My eyes are wide open now, and I am realizing that I don't have one child > with Aspergers Syndrome, I have two. > > > > My youngest is in kindergarten, and has been struggling. This isn't the > first time he's had struggles. He was kicked out of preschool, and, like a > fool, I thought it was the terrible awful preschool (which was terrible and > awful), and they gave me the option of placing him in another class, and I > said NO, and kept him home. I don't regret that. > > > > Kindergarten before we moved, she eluded to some issues with personal space, > but it was a VERY VERY structured classroom and the teacher was amazingly > supportive and positive, so he thrived there. Now, not so much. Despite the > fact that there's only 12 children in his classroom, INCLUDING him, he is > struggling. He struggles on the bus. He struggles going into the classroom > (transitions much?). He struggles during unstructured times. He has been > getting out of his seat on the bus, hitting kids in the hallway. yesterday, > a child was running in the hall, and he took it upon himself to " correct " > that child's behavior, and grabbed his shirt to get him to stop running, > which meant he choked the other child. > > > > I already started a communication book with the teacher, which I asked her > to write down when problems arise, WHAT is happening. She's not being very > cooperative so far. > > > > So then, I get a call from my eldests teacher. Apparently my ELDEST hit a > child on the bus, too. And there's been some issues with swearing. > > > > I have a meeting with the school on Thursday, I think it will be with both > kids teachers, and the principal. I am WAITING for an appointment to get an > official diagnosis for my eldest, but the wait time is ridiculous. I am > getting a referral from our family DR to the child development clinic for my > youngest now, too, as I am sure this is what we're facing. > > > > What should I have with me, ready, prepared, etc. going into this meeting on > Thursday? How do I get their teachers on board? I know I am a GREAT Mom, and > have NO problem advocating for my children. and yet on the other hand, I > feel soooo lost. > > > > What kind of things can I insist for my kids? What kind of accommodations > should I be requesting? What am I not doing that I could/should be doing to > make life easier for my kids? > > > > Already I've decided that my youngest will get a ride to school with me in > the morning (the other bus isn't an issue, as it's just the 12 kids going > home, the kids know JUST what to expect, and she sings songs with them, etc. > They also each get their own seat.). I am sure they will fight me on that, > but I don't care > > > > I am sure this is sounding scattered, but that's sort of how I'm feeling on > all this right now anyway. So some clarification and guidance would be MUCH > appreciate. > > > > Thank you SO much in advance. > > > > =) > > Ps - youngest is 5yrs old and in Kindergarten, eldest is 8 and in grade 3. > Eldest had an IEP before we moved, and I'm frustrated that nothing has been > discussed on that topic since our arrival here. I want to have something set > up for him going into next year, new teacher, etc. Youngest has NO iep, no > accommodations, and has never been tested. We'd be on a wait list for an > assessment through the school, and a private one costs $1700 and that's out > of the question I'd like a new one for my eldest as well, but the same > problems exist. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Thank you, Pam. I appreciate this so much. I will likely have a book and some burned CD’s with videos for each teacher and principal in the meeting, my hope is that they’ll be open to reading them, and working with me. “Circular learningâ€â€¦ ya know? We all learn from each other, and the child should be at the centre of that learning. Sadly, that’s not usually the way it is. Thanks again so much! I will definitely keep you posted! =) From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of ppanda65@... Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:18 AM Subject: Re: ( ) Ok, help... !! In a message dated 5/13/2009 10:20:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nicole.obrien@... writes: What should I have with me, ready, prepared, etc… going into this meeting on Thursday? How do I get their teachers on board? I know I am a GREAT Mom, and have NO problem advocating for my children… and yet on the other hand, I feel soooo lost. I would go in with some written notes on each child (including strengths/needs and your concerns for both). Remember, that the IEP should be based on your child's NEEDs (and their impact academically and socially/emotionally) not DIAGNOSIS...although it does help to have a specific diagnosis. Also, you may want to print off something like this to share with teachers. Welcome to Unlocking the Puzzle! Familiarize yourself with accommodations and modifications that are commonly used with students with Asperger's. Think about which ones may benefit your children based on their individual needs. Asperger Info: Specially Designed Instructions For Educators: IEP Asperger Info: Behaviors that May Challenge ASD Students Asperger Info: moreno_tips_for_teaching Asperger Syndrome: Guide for Teachers Take someone with you for support. You or your support person should take good meeting notes. Make sure you understand anything and everything the school department may ask you to sign. Don't sign anything you are not sure about. Just say you want to take it home and discuss it with your spouse, partner, etc. Come back to the list and let us know how everything went. Pam Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Hey, It's me again. OK, when my doctor was asked to make a referral for my son, she also said she was pretty sure he didn't have AS (Yes, she was only with him for 5-10 min, too). But she was willing to let me give the referral a try. She was surprised when it came back that was definitely AS. If your Dr. won't do the referral, find one who will. Remind them that they do not have a specialty in this, and that it takes the psychiatrists HOURS to make this diagnosis. Good Luck, ah > > > > My eyes are wide open now, and I am realizing that I don't have one child > > with Aspergers Syndrome, I have two. > > > > > > > > My youngest is in kindergarten, and has been struggling. This isn't the > > first time he's had struggles. He was kicked out of preschool, and, like a > > fool, I thought it was the terrible awful preschool (which was terrible > and > > awful), and they gave me the option of placing him in another class, and I > > said NO, and kept him home. I don't regret that. > > > > > > > > Kindergarten before we moved, she eluded to some issues with personal > space, > > but it was a VERY VERY structured classroom and the teacher was amazingly > > supportive and positive, so he thrived there. Now, not so much. Despite > the > > fact that there's only 12 children in his classroom, INCLUDING him, he is > > struggling. He struggles on the bus. He struggles going into the classroom > > (transitions much?). He struggles during unstructured times. He has been > > getting out of his seat on the bus, hitting kids in the hallway. > yesterday, > > a child was running in the hall, and he took it upon himself to " correct " > > that child's behavior, and grabbed his shirt to get him to stop running, > > which meant he choked the other child. > > > > > > > > I already started a communication book with the teacher, which I asked her > > to write down when problems arise, WHAT is happening. She's not being very > > cooperative so far. > > > > > > > > So then, I get a call from my eldests teacher. Apparently my ELDEST hit a > > child on the bus, too. And there's been some issues with swearing. > > > > > > > > I have a meeting with the school on Thursday, I think it will be with both > > kids teachers, and the principal. I am WAITING for an appointment to get > an > > official diagnosis for my eldest, but the wait time is ridiculous. I am > > getting a referral from our family DR to the child development clinic for > my > > youngest now, too, as I am sure this is what we're facing. > > > > > > > > What should I have with me, ready, prepared, etc. going into this meeting > on > > Thursday? How do I get their teachers on board? I know I am a GREAT Mom, > and > > have NO problem advocating for my children. and yet on the other hand, I > > feel soooo lost. > > > > > > > > What kind of things can I insist for my kids? What kind of accommodations > > should I be requesting? What am I not doing that I could/should be doing > to > > make life easier for my kids? > > > > > > > > Already I've decided that my youngest will get a ride to school with me in > > the morning (the other bus isn't an issue, as it's just the 12 kids going > > home, the kids know JUST what to expect, and she sings songs with them, > etc. > > They also each get their own seat.). I am sure they will fight me on that, > > but I don't care > > > > > > > > I am sure this is sounding scattered, but that's sort of how I'm feeling > on > > all this right now anyway. So some clarification and guidance would be > MUCH > > appreciate. > > > > > > > > Thank you SO much in advance. > > > > > > > > =) > > > > Ps - youngest is 5yrs old and in Kindergarten, eldest is 8 and in grade 3. > > Eldest had an IEP before we moved, and I'm frustrated that nothing has > been > > discussed on that topic since our arrival here. I want to have something > set > > up for him going into next year, new teacher, etc. Youngest has NO iep, no > > accommodations, and has never been tested. We'd be on a wait list for an > > assessment through the school, and a private one costs $1700 and that's > out > > of the question I'd like a new one for my eldest as well, but the same > > problems exist. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 You are in Canada? Do they have some sort of connectivity between places - I mean, if he had an IEP before, wouldn't the new school need to comply with or create a new IEP? Start putting your requests in writing and request that they do whatever they do to get this going. I am a list maker by nature. So before meetings, I make a list of all the items I need to discuss and also all the points I want to make. That can help you organize what you want to say. As for the problems, someone needs to be around to see what is triggering the problems. Then you can design a solution. ON the bus, without knowing the cause of the problem, perhaps you can get assigned seats in the front or with a buddy? Roxanna Autism Happens ( ) Ok, help... !! My eyes are wide open now, and I am realizing that I don’t have one child with Aspergers Syndrome, I have two. My youngest is in kindergarten, and has been struggling. This isn’t the first time he’s had struggles. He was kicked out of preschool, and, like a fool, I thought it was the terrible awful preschool (which was terrible and awful), and they gave me the option of placing him in another class, and I said NO, and kept him home. I don’t regret that. Kindergarten before we moved, she eluded to some issues with personal space, but it was a VERY VERY structured classroom and the teacher was amazingly supportive and positive, so he thrived there. Now, not so much. Despite the fact that there’s only 12 children in his classroom, INCLUDING him, he is struggling. He struggles on the bus. He struggles going into the classroom (transitions much?). He struggles during unstructured times. He has been getting out of his seat on the bus, hitting kids in the hallway… yesterday, a child was running in the hall, and he took it upon himself to “correct†that child’s behavior, and grabbed his shirt to get him to stop running, which meant he choked the other child. I already started a communication book with the teacher, which I asked her to write down when problems arise, WHAT is happening. She’s not being very cooperative so far. So then, I get a call from my eldests teacher. Apparently my ELDEST hit a child on the bus, too. And there’s been some issues with swearing. I have a meeting with the school on Thursday, I think it will be with both kids teachers,20and the principal. I am WAITING for an appointment to get an official diagnosis for my eldest, but the wait time is ridiculous. I am getting a referral from our family DR to the child development clinic for my youngest now, too, as I am sure this is what we’re facing. What should I have with me, ready, prepared, etc… going into this meeting on Thursday? How do I get their teachers on board? I know I am a GREAT Mom, and have NO problem advocating for my children… and yet on the other hand, I feel soooo lost. What kind of things can I insist for my kids? What kind of accommodations should I be requesting? What am I not doing that I could/should be doing to make life easier for my kids? Already I’ve decided that my youngest will get a ride to school with me in the morning (the other bus isn’t an issue, as it’s just the 12 kids going home, the kids know JUST what to expect, and she sings songs w ith them, etc. They also each get their own seat.). I am sure they will fight me on that, but I don’t care I am sure this is sounding scattered, but that’s sort of how I’m feeling on all this right now anyway. So some clarification and guidance would be MUCH appreciate. Thank you SO much in advance… =) Ps – youngest is 5yrs old and in Kindergarten, eldest is 8 and in grade 3. Eldest had an IEP before we moved, and I’m frustrated that nothing has been discussed on that topic since our arrival here. I want to have something set up for him going into next year, new teacher, etc. Youngest has NO iep, no accommodations, and has never been tested. We’d be on a wait list for an assessment through the school, and a private one costs $1700 and that’s out of the question I’d like a new one for my eldest as well, but the same problems exist. We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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