reintroduction

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Jan is 28. She's been a character from the beginning. Jan is one of

the first generation to get an education (no only partly inclusive) and

she has pioneered a post high school program for the learning disabled

at Chapel Haven. She succeded there and as a graduate of the program

lives close to the school in an apartment of her own. She has a few

hours a week of life skills help, but otherwise is independent. There

are courses to take when she isn't employed and a really good social

life. She went to Newport, RI last weekend for a day trip.

It isn't easy. Independent living is what she really wants after years

of everyone being her supervisor/parent. She is still working on the

challenges.

14 months ago, she had the first really serious illness of her life.

She managed to combine an auto-immune disease with and underlying

incurable leukemia, diabetes, and every hospital infection you could

imagine. Things were not happy a year ago, but the leukemia is either

in remission or gone. The diabetes is also gone with weight loss and

diet control. The auto-immune disease is cured, at least for the

moment. Then this spring, she had an apparently unrelated stroke.

She's recovering from that. It hit her left side mobility and her

balance, but fortunately not her mind.

I post on this list fairly regularly about both Jan's triumphs and also

her problems. Your child or loved one will be different but hopefully

no less loved and cared for than mine.

Rick ........... dad to 28 year old Jan who's climbed Half Dome

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Jan is 28. She's been a character from the beginning. Jan is one of

the first generation to get an education (no only partly inclusive) and

she has pioneered a post high school program for the learning disabled

at Chapel Haven. She succeded there and as a graduate of the program

lives close to the school in an apartment of her own. She has a few

hours a week of life skills help, but otherwise is independent. There

are courses to take when she isn't employed and a really good social

life. She went to Newport, RI last weekend for a day trip.

It isn't easy. Independent living is what she really wants after years

of everyone being her supervisor/parent. She is still working on the

challenges.

14 months ago, she had the first really serious illness of her life.

She managed to combine an auto-immune disease with and underlying

incurable leukemia, diabetes, and every hospital infection you could

imagine. Things were not happy a year ago, but the leukemia is either

in remission or gone. The diabetes is also gone with weight loss and

diet control. The auto-immune disease is cured, at least for the

moment. Then this spring, she had an apparently unrelated stroke.

She's recovering from that. It hit her left side mobility and her

balance, but fortunately not her mind.

I post on this list fairly regularly about both Jan's triumphs and also

her problems. Your child or loved one will be different but hopefully

no less loved and cared for than mine.

Rick ........... dad to 28 year old Jan who's climbed Half Dome

[Guest guest]

hello Sue, Thanks for your intro.

Do you see Dr Andy ? He uses Samento a lot. I am following the

progress of the people who are taking it with great interest.

I too used to be a very keen cyclist JUST before coming down with ...Lyme

etc. I had just toured in France and Ireland (and camped everywhere wild!)

and of course had been bitten by ticks.

Where abouts do you live? Do you belong to EuroLyme?

I too am finding it real hard to handle stress, and I do not eat little

children, (although, yes, I AM French BTW) so fear not ))

Nelly

[Guest guest]

Hi Nelly,

> Do you see Dr Andy ?

Yes, I've been seeing him for nearly a year but haven't yet

started the Borrelia/Samento regime. We've been focussing on

sorting out my gut problems -antibiotics, to which I don't react

well, so I'm pleased that his preferred treatment for borrelia is

'alternative'.

> I too used to be a very keen cyclist JUST before coming down

> with ...Lyme etc. I had just toured in France and Ireland (and

> camped everywhere wild!)

Over a few years we toured the Alps & Pyrenees, moving on every

day, staying in hotels, travelling light. Also done the crinkly

bits in the SW of Ireland. I really miss it.

> Where about do you live? Do you belong to EuroLyme?

I'm in Leicestershire, UK but lived for 2 years in Sweden where

we were warned about ticks. But apparently had no bites. And

no, I don't belong to EuroLyme, what is it?

Sue

[Guest guest]

>no, I don't belong to EuroLyme, what is it?

Sue,

It's a UK based Lyme discussion list. A conference was organised last June

in York and Dr attended. We had our first conference in Hull in Sept

2001. I'm sure you would find it useful. Some members are also patients of

Dr .

Nelly

EuroLyme/?yguid=164480

[Guest guest]

-

My family and I live in Germany (Karlsruhe, on the Rhein) for 4-6

weeks a couple of times/year. I don't know whether you are fluent

in German or French or Italian, but I'm not in German (I have

housewife German...stores, food, restaurants). It can be isolating

at times, but I've learned the playgrounds and fun places to take my

kids. Perhaps we can stay in touch and if we're back in Germany,

heading your way, we can hook up.

Mother to Dominick (17 mos)

Hello All,

It has been quite some time since I last posted...I have been busy

moving my family from the US to Switzerland (about an hour outside

of Geneva). Life has been full of changes in the last few

months...with exception of my daughter's fevers. They have remained

a constant. I had come to grips with the cyclic nature of the fevers

(ranging 20 to 48 days apart) for the past 8 months but in recent

days I am beginning again to worry.

She has not officially been diagnosed with but my pediatrician

in the US said that it was a good possibility. He did a preliminary

blood workup to check for elevated white blood cell count and

assured me that she doesn't have leukemia...which I was very afraid

of! I have not established medical care yet here in Switzerland but

will do so shortly. I think I am still a bit in denial about setting

down roots in a new country...anyway, that is another story!

When she gets the fever, she exhibits very dark circles under her

eyes (almost a tell tale sign of the fever coming the next day); her

face appears to get a bit puffy; during the first 6 fevers she had a

lot of saliva in her mouth, garbled speech and clearly had ulcers on

the back of her throat; the sores have seemed to not be that painful

in the last two fevers; her fevers range from 101 to 105 and last 4-

5 days; she has a loss of appetite but drinks quite a bit throughout

the night (thank goodness); she is up every night during the fevers

for about 3 hours so I am exhausted by the end of the fever.

She seems to do well on Motrin alone...Tylenol does nothing for the

fevers and eventhough the pediatrician told us to alternate we give

her motrin every 4 hours....that can't be good for her!

I have several questions that I have been thinking about for some

time....please answer with your thoughts or findings.

Has there ever been any evidence that is caused by certain

immunizations?

Can be connected with premature birth (my daughter was 4.5

weeks early)? OR perhaps childhood illness such as RSV (my daughter

was hospitalized with RSV at 9 months old)?

What blood tests must be administered to rule out ALL other diseases

or diagnoses? And if I am ready to start this process, how long and

painful of a process is it to get a diagnosis?

What are the long term effects (all things considered) of these

fevers?

And lastly, why does MY little girl and family have to go through

this?! It is simply not fair!

Thank you very much for any support you can provide,

Regards,

[Guest guest]

-

My family and I live in Germany (Karlsruhe, on the Rhein) for 4-6

weeks a couple of times/year. I don't know whether you are fluent

in German or French or Italian, but I'm not in German (I have

housewife German...stores, food, restaurants). It can be isolating

at times, but I've learned the playgrounds and fun places to take my

kids. Perhaps we can stay in touch and if we're back in Germany,

heading your way, we can hook up.

Mother to Dominick (17 mos)

Hello All,

It has been quite some time since I last posted...I have been busy

moving my family from the US to Switzerland (about an hour outside

of Geneva). Life has been full of changes in the last few

months...with exception of my daughter's fevers. They have remained

a constant. I had come to grips with the cyclic nature of the fevers

(ranging 20 to 48 days apart) for the past 8 months but in recent

days I am beginning again to worry.

She has not officially been diagnosed with but my pediatrician

in the US said that it was a good possibility. He did a preliminary

blood workup to check for elevated white blood cell count and

assured me that she doesn't have leukemia...which I was very afraid

of! I have not established medical care yet here in Switzerland but

will do so shortly. I think I am still a bit in denial about setting

down roots in a new country...anyway, that is another story!

When she gets the fever, she exhibits very dark circles under her

eyes (almost a tell tale sign of the fever coming the next day); her

face appears to get a bit puffy; during the first 6 fevers she had a

lot of saliva in her mouth, garbled speech and clearly had ulcers on

the back of her throat; the sores have seemed to not be that painful

in the last two fevers; her fevers range from 101 to 105 and last 4-

5 days; she has a loss of appetite but drinks quite a bit throughout

the night (thank goodness); she is up every night during the fevers

for about 3 hours so I am exhausted by the end of the fever.

She seems to do well on Motrin alone...Tylenol does nothing for the

fevers and eventhough the pediatrician told us to alternate we give

her motrin every 4 hours....that can't be good for her!

I have several questions that I have been thinking about for some

time....please answer with your thoughts or findings.

Has there ever been any evidence that is caused by certain

immunizations?

Can be connected with premature birth (my daughter was 4.5

weeks early)? OR perhaps childhood illness such as RSV (my daughter

was hospitalized with RSV at 9 months old)?

What blood tests must be administered to rule out ALL other diseases

or diagnoses? And if I am ready to start this process, how long and

painful of a process is it to get a diagnosis?

What are the long term effects (all things considered) of these

fevers?

And lastly, why does MY little girl and family have to go through

this?! It is simply not fair!

Thank you very much for any support you can provide,

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Sorry to say we have at least 60 members who have children who have

and the fevers started as early as 3 months.... My son started at just over

5.5 mths old. The docs who follow do say the majority of kids do begin

around 2-3 yrs old however about 25% start UNDER a year old.

Fran

Fran A Bulone

Mom to ph 5 yrs old

Waxhaw, NC

Owner & Moderator Group

Subject: Re: Reintroduction

, the fever sysmptoms started when she was 17-18 months old.

[Guest guest]

Sorry to say we have at least 60 members who have children who have

and the fevers started as early as 3 months.... My son started at just over

5.5 mths old. The docs who follow do say the majority of kids do begin

around 2-3 yrs old however about 25% start UNDER a year old.

Fran

Fran A Bulone

Mom to ph 5 yrs old

Waxhaw, NC

Owner & Moderator Group

Subject: Re: Reintroduction

, the fever sysmptoms started when she was 17-18 months old.

[Guest guest]

Fran,

Thanks for your feedback....yet the DTaP vaccine and others are

given at 2 months, 4 months, 6 months, and then at 18months and then

again at 4-6 years. My intent is to help in anyway I can anyone

researching possible causes for this...I do not believe this just

happens or children are just born with it...this of course is just a

personal belief. As I stated before, I do not intend to help in a

witch hunt but IF a link can be found (and it doesn't seem like

anyone has yet pursued this)to immunizations, imagine how many

families would be saved from this.

I have searched the internet a bit on any correlation or studies

connecting with environmental/immunization causes but come up

with nothing. Do you know of any studies that have been done

connecting the two, perhaps some of the contacts you have made

through the years have already researched this? Undoubtedly, whoever

does try to research this will come up against the CDC and Federal

Government and this may prove to be very long study....but I believe

it is worth it.

Thank you for any support you can offer,

> Sorry to say we have at least 60 members who have children who

have

> and the fevers started as early as 3 months.... My son started at

just over

> 5.5 mths old. The docs who follow do say the majority of

kids do begin

> around 2-3 yrs old however about 25% start UNDER a year old.

> Fran

> Fran A Bulone

> Mom to ph 5 yrs old

> Waxhaw, NC

>

> Owner & Moderator Group

>

>

>

> Subject: Re: Reintroduction

> , the fever sysmptoms started when she was 17-18 months old.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Fran,

Thanks for your feedback....yet the DTaP vaccine and others are

given at 2 months, 4 months, 6 months, and then at 18months and then

again at 4-6 years. My intent is to help in anyway I can anyone

researching possible causes for this...I do not believe this just

happens or children are just born with it...this of course is just a

personal belief. As I stated before, I do not intend to help in a

witch hunt but IF a link can be found (and it doesn't seem like

anyone has yet pursued this)to immunizations, imagine how many

families would be saved from this.

I have searched the internet a bit on any correlation or studies

connecting with environmental/immunization causes but come up

with nothing. Do you know of any studies that have been done

connecting the two, perhaps some of the contacts you have made

through the years have already researched this? Undoubtedly, whoever

does try to research this will come up against the CDC and Federal

Government and this may prove to be very long study....but I believe

it is worth it.

Thank you for any support you can offer,

> Sorry to say we have at least 60 members who have children who

have

> and the fevers started as early as 3 months.... My son started at

just over

> 5.5 mths old. The docs who follow do say the majority of

kids do begin

> around 2-3 yrs old however about 25% start UNDER a year old.

> Fran

> Fran A Bulone

> Mom to ph 5 yrs old

> Waxhaw, NC

>

> Owner & Moderator Group

>

>

>

> Subject: Re: Reintroduction

> , the fever sysmptoms started when she was 17-18 months old.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If anyone has a vaccine theory please go to the vaccination board.

This is a topic that fits in well with the other group. A note... we have

children here who have not been immunized at the choice of their parents....

and my son did not start his immunizations until near one years old.

If any theory holds true it must apply to all children and this does not. So

please... keep vaccine theory on the vaccine board for created by one

of our members and keep all alternative herbal remedies on the alternative

group which was created by another one of our members.

Thanks

Fran

Fran A Bulone

Mom to ph 5 yrs old

Waxhaw, NC

Owner & Moderator Group

[Guest guest]

If anyone has a vaccine theory please go to the vaccination board.

This is a topic that fits in well with the other group. A note... we have

children here who have not been immunized at the choice of their parents....

and my son did not start his immunizations until near one years old.

If any theory holds true it must apply to all children and this does not. So

please... keep vaccine theory on the vaccine board for created by one

of our members and keep all alternative herbal remedies on the alternative

group which was created by another one of our members.

Thanks

Fran

Fran A Bulone

Mom to ph 5 yrs old

Waxhaw, NC

Owner & Moderator Group

[Guest guest]

Wow, what a ride for sure. I'm so glad you were able to get

rebanded and that your insurance covered it. Good going on the

appeal and my very best to you. Congratulations on your little boy.

gayle in seattle

>/// Microsoft said yes!

> Had surgery 2/14/05

> Home, feeling sore and tired, but up and around.///

[Guest guest]

Congratulations Elise! Welcome back and all the best on your new future.

Sylvia F

2/23/4 - Dr. Watkins

290\200\135-150

Reintroduction

It's time for a re-introduction. I have been away for a long time and have

had quite a wild ride.

Name: Elise s

Location: Seattle

First Banded: 2/1/02 in Tijuana by Dr. Ortiz Lost 60 pounds, which brought

me out of obese to the overweight category.

Got pregnant

Had fill removed after the 1st trimester.

Gained about 20 lbs in pregnancy

Gave birth at home to a healthy baby boy on 1/6/04 Ate and nursed, nursed

and ate, etc. etc.

Started to gain gain gain

Went to get a fill.

Pain. Serious pain developed around the port site.

Took lots of pain killers. Had a CT scan, had a fluid aspiration to check

for infection. All negative.

Cried.

Convinced NWWLS to move my port to the other side because maybe it was on a

nerve or something.

While in surgery, Dr. Montgomery found that the whole band was infected and

there was scar tissue all over. They cultured the bacteria and it was

pseudomonas, which is just not normal. Basically, my body had encapsulated

the infection for years.

Went back into surgery a week later to have the whole thing taken out

because antibiotics don't work on plastic.

Spent three weeks on IV antibiotics at home.

Sad.

Depressed.

Had to deal with all those people who basically said, " Well that's what

happens if you go to Mexico " . Had to deal with all my banded friends who

would comment on how much I could eat and how little they could.

Started a Weight Watchers group in my neighborhood. Did South Beach Diet.

Gain weight. <*Shocking*>

A few months ago, I went back to NWWLS and said " I want my band back "

Microsoft Premera denied me because I wasn't quite fat enough and,

thankfully, don't have any real co-morbidities.

Dr. Montgomery and Trish at NWWLS, and myself appealed and explained the

uniqueness of the situation.

Microsoft said yes!

Had surgery 2/14/05

Home, feeling sore and tired, but up and around.

[Guest guest]

Elise - I'm so glad you were able to get your insurance to be reasonable!!!

(Truly amazing!)

So welcome back from Elise's Wild Ride!

Helen in Redmond

>From: " Elise s " <ejacobs129@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Reintroduction

>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:40:59 -0800

>

>

>It's time for a re-introduction. I have been away for a long time and have

>had quite a wild ride.

>Name: Elise s

>Location: Seattle

>First Banded: 2/1/02 in Tijuana by Dr. Ortiz

>Lost 60 pounds, which brought me out of obese to the overweight category.

>Got pregnant

>Had fill removed after the 1st trimester.

>Gained about 20 lbs in pregnancy

>Gave birth at home to a healthy baby boy on 1/6/04

>Ate and nursed, nursed and ate, etc. etc.

>Started to gain gain gain

>Went to get a fill.

>Pain. Serious pain developed around the port site.

>Took lots of pain killers. Had a CT scan, had a fluid aspiration to check

>for infection. All negative.

>Cried.

>Convinced NWWLS to move my port to the other side because maybe it was on a

>nerve or something.

>While in surgery, Dr. Montgomery found that the whole band was infected and

>there was scar tissue all over. They cultured the bacteria and it was

>pseudomonas, which is just not normal. Basically, my body had encapsulated

>the infection for years.

>Went back into surgery a week later to have the whole thing taken out

>because antibiotics don't work on plastic.

>Spent three weeks on IV antibiotics at home.

>Sad.

>Depressed.

>Had to deal with all those people who basically said, " Well that's what

>happens if you go to Mexico " . Had to deal with all my banded friends who

>would comment on how much I could eat and how little they could.

>Started a Weight Watchers group in my neighborhood. Did South Beach Diet.

>Gain weight. <*Shocking*>

>A few months ago, I went back to NWWLS and said " I want my band back "

>Microsoft Premera denied me because I wasn't quite fat enough and,

>thankfully, don't have any real co-morbidities.

>Dr. Montgomery and Trish at NWWLS, and myself appealed and explained the

>uniqueness of the situation.

>Microsoft said yes!

>Had surgery 2/14/05

>Home, feeling sore and tired, but up and around.

>

>

>

>

>February, 2005 is the Seattle Bandster Splash!

>http://barbooch2.homestead.com/SeattleBandsterSplash.html

>

>

[Guest guest]

" I hope that this " message in a bottle " will be found by someone who

would like to get to know me. "

" I hope that this " message in a bottle " will be found by someone who

would like to get to know me. "

Hi Ron,

I notice you are cross-posting messages across the forums, so I am

going to cross-post a response.

The best way to find girls is really not to throw out a " message in

a bottle " and hope someone responds. That seems rather desparate in

my opinion.

Perhaps it is just me, but I feel the same way about personal ads

too.

For a woman to take an interest in you, you need to actually chat

with them, listen to them, and get to know them. If they get the

idea that you are just trolling for dates, I think they are going to

begin to wonder what sort of fish you are catching beside them, what

sort of uality they are, and how many.

These forums are not set up for the purpose of finding dates, and I

am not entirely comfortable with folks trying to find companions

using my forums. We have no real idea if you are truly Aspie, or

what your real intentions are.

Since your past posts had the same theme, I am going to put you on

moderation until such time as you actually join in conversations

here. Posts where you simply ask for dates will be deleted.

Tom

Administrator

[Guest guest]

Ron wrote: " It's been a while since I've posted anything, so I think

I should reintroduce myself ... <snip> ... "

RON! Welcome back! Oh my ... we have had a flurry of returns

recently and each of them welcome. :-D

Ron wrote: " ... <snip> ... I've recently re-entered college (Science

major) as much for the social aspects as for the educational aspects,

although, as an Aspie, the social thing doesn't come easy to me.

Ideally, I'd like to find a girl who's also in college, or is

contemplating going to college, but that's not absolutely necessary

.... <snip> ... "

Congratulations on returning to college. Education is a life long

journey as far as I am concerned. And I'm happy to hear that you

aren't limiting yourself by insisting on finding a girlfriend who is

either attending college or who has a college degree. There are a

number of brilliant people who have never attended college but who put

college grads to shame with their knowledge. In life there are two

ways to get an education (IMHO) ... by paying tuition or by paying

attention. :-)

Ron wrote: " ... <snip> ... I'm very much a believer in " friends

first " -- my ideal is to eventually marry my best friend. I'd like to

be the " wind beneath her wings " -- to nurture her, never to restrict

her ... <snip> ... "

That is wonderful to hear and don't let anyone tell you that this is

impossible. I have been in relationship with my best friend for a

year now and it has been the best relationship I have ever had. Do

not give up on this dream of yours and in time, you will see it come

to be.

Ron wrote: " ... <snip> ... I'll never be a total grown-up ... <snip>

.... "

Who would want to be a total grown-up anyway? A person's imagination

is the greatest playground of all and only those who are childlike are

able to maintain a fertile imagination.

Ron wrote: " ... <snip> ... I guess you could say that I'm a big nerd

.. . . but I'm a FUN nerd! ... <snip> ... "

And this is a bad thing? Hooray for those who feel that being

childlike is worth preserving. The world has far too many grown-ups

in it and all of them are messing things up. I say let's keep a place

within ourselves where the child within us can thrive alongside the

grown-up.

Raven

Co-Administrator

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Fellow Aspies!

>

> It's been a while since I've posted anything, so I think I should

> reintroduce myself.

>

> I'm very single, without even family and friends.

Are you without access to a local AS group?

It sucks that the global coverage of them is incomplete.

Anyway, there is the global AS culture now.

Some of my other interests include Science and

> Medicine, Paranormal (ESP, crop circles, ghosts,

excellent way to give yourself well-funded feelings of not being alone.

Me luv ghosties.

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Fellow Aspies!

>

> It's been a while since I've posted anything, so I think I should

> reintroduce myself.

>

> I'm very single, without even family and friends.

Are you without access to a local AS group?

It sucks that the global coverage of them is incomplete.

Anyway, there is the global AS culture now.

Some of my other interests include Science and

> Medicine, Paranormal (ESP, crop circles, ghosts,

excellent way to give yourself well-funded feelings of not being alone.

Me luv ghosties.

[Guest guest]

>

> My name is Jen, and I've been a member of this group for a looong

> time. We have relocated to the English countryside in

> Suffolk. I live in a cottage in a village and have a relatively

> largish garden that I have already started filling with stocks,

> pinks, wallflowers, lots and lots of roses and all sorts of other

> fragrant cottage garden plants. I even found three osmanthus bushes

> at Wyevale!

Hi Jen

I'm so glad to see you back posting ;-) Your input and friendly spirit

has been missed, and I'm happy your spirits have risen with the

promise of a nice English scented garden.

A long time dream of mine will be

> realized later this spring when a beehive arrives! If anyone has

> read the archives, you will see that I have had a long-time obsession

> with bees and beeswax in particular.

You were the first Bee Goo Queen, and I still have the fragrant stuff

you sent, I keep it for myself! You know the honeybees in the USA are

dying off at a terrible rate, and nobody knows why, although

environmental toxins and ag chemicals are suspect. There was a

sobering, scary item on TV about it the other day. The man quoted

Albert Einstein: " if honeybees vanish, so will the human race within

four years. " Well, if it's only USA-based, I'm leaving!

Tell us of your sitings of honeybees in the UK, are they vigorous?

I do not have a workspace set

> up for all of my oils yet, but it is in the works. A lot of my lab

> glassware did not survive the moves around the globe, so I will have

> to restock.

Ebay is great for that, fabulous prices. I just saw a " lot " there

yesterday, maybe there are some on ebay UK, too,where you pay one flat

fee and get lots of stuff like flasks, funnels, stirrers, etc.

>

> Another big spring summer project that I will be asking for help from

> the group with is a enfleurage project with sweet peas. I have over

> a hundred of the grandiflora varities sprouting at the moment ready

> to be hardened off soon. I also have a glass still. I should have

> more than enough blossoms to try a distillation and enfleurage. I

> should also have more than enough rose to distill rose water. I look

> forward to playing and getting my fingers fragrant again - it's been

> WAY too long.

I just checked in Arctander for you -- they say the most common form

of extraction for sweet peas is solvent extraction. I'm sure, however.

You might want to try something I've been using with great success for

some time now: an ultrasonic machine. Arctander writes about it on p.

43-44, I believe. He states that it helps pull out the scent more

efficiently and you get a wonderful saturation of the scent, and he is

right! I just had to purchase a new one because my old used one burned

out. I got a 2 liter capacity, digital controls, for $129 plus

reasonable shipping. You just stuff the flowers in a glass jar, cover

them with alcohol or oil, set them in the container, fill up to within

an inch or two of the top with warm water, and let it run for a half

hour or so, turn it off, evaluate, maybe let it rest. Most stuff

extracts within four " runs " or so. It's great for tincturing also,

esp. concretes.

I long to grow sweet peas, and if I ever get it together for my move

to Texas (seems Miami contractors are conspiring against that, lol)

I'll grow tons of them.

PS. Genders, in his book says you can play with vanilla and neroli to

create a dupe for sweet peas! Arctander mentions traces of hyachinth

(another one that's going into the ultrasonic when they hit the flower

market in volume/for cheap), tuberose, light greenness, jasmine

absolute, rose de mai absolute, terpeneless petigrain bigarade,

styrax, benzoin, tolu, cinnamon and then the devolves into synthetic

babble, lol.

Well, a long reply to a friend long missed!

Anya's Garden of Natural Perfume http://AnyasGarden.com

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[Guest guest]

> >

> > My name is Jen, and I've been a member of this group for a looong

> > time.

>

> > JenB

>

> Hi JenB

>

> Welcome back! I loved reading your intro, I could picture your lovely

> cottage and garden and it sounds so idyllic. It must be so beautiful

> now in the spring, my favorite time of year. I am looking forward to

> reading more of what you are up to, setting up your new studio and

> beehives etc.

>

> Warmly

>

Welcome back JenB!

Is it already spring there? We've still got snow on the ground here (right near

Washington

DC). I'm not expecting spring for at least a month! I have seen many of your

old posts

about bee goo and have been planning to try the tincture. My mother-in-law

keeps bees

and Anya is right, two hives died mysteriously last year. She was very

depressed-- she is

not an animal lover but bees seem to be the perfect " pet " for her-- all her

nurturing goes

to her bees. Still, she has three more hives and she has more coming so there's

hope.

Keep us posted on the sweetpeas. They are one of my favorites.

[Guest guest]

> >

> > My name is Jen, and I've been a member of this group for a looong

> > time.

>

> > JenB

>

> Hi JenB

>

> Welcome back! I loved reading your intro, I could picture your lovely

> cottage and garden and it sounds so idyllic. It must be so beautiful

> now in the spring, my favorite time of year. I am looking forward to

> reading more of what you are up to, setting up your new studio and

> beehives etc.

>

> Warmly

>

Welcome back JenB!

Is it already spring there? We've still got snow on the ground here (right near

Washington

DC). I'm not expecting spring for at least a month! I have seen many of your

old posts

about bee goo and have been planning to try the tincture. My mother-in-law

keeps bees

and Anya is right, two hives died mysteriously last year. She was very

depressed-- she is

not an animal lover but bees seem to be the perfect " pet " for her-- all her

nurturing goes

to her bees. Still, she has three more hives and she has more coming so there's

hope.

Keep us posted on the sweetpeas. They are one of my favorites.

[Guest guest]

heartinmymouth <heartinmymouth@...> wrote:

<Suffolk .... lovely country.... have you heard of Raven?

Fabulous gardener and seller of all sorts of exotic coloured species

including unusual sweetpeas......Her house and shop is in Suffolk I

believe.

Anyway I have never posted from the messages before so I hope this gets

through ok....

With all good wishes

Janita>

I have heard of Raven. I have her book " The Bold And Brilliant Garden " .

I love it! Not only is it inspirational, but I am so with her love of colors

and it's use in the garden. Orange, magenta, blue, crimson, lime green,

violet,gold; just my thing. That's why I got the book. In fact, my garden has

been looking more and more like her pallette every year. You should have seen

my spring garden last year, Austin Powers would've been proud!

>

[Guest guest]

Hey. I'm new here. I hope to get to know you. I understand about feeling a need to open up some and connect with others.

amy

In a message dated 6/20/2007 9:00:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, markwanda91@... writes:

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