Guest guest Posted August 5, 2000 Report Share Posted August 5, 2000 Hi List, I'm forwarding a post from a friend who is no longer on this list. If anyone has any info, can you send it to me privately, and I'll forward it to her? thanks, wendy, in canada, wb4@... ===============----------==============--------------============ >Subject: Concerta >Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 20:08:08 -0400 > >Was given this address for an article on a newer medication called >Concerta that is used to treat ADD and ADHD. Concerta is an all day >ritalin type drug according the the article. Do you have any other >information on it or possibly first hand knowledge of it's use? We >wondered if it would be a good substitute for the Adderall takes or >the Ritalin takes. It would be better than giving meds 2-3 times a >day, especially when school starts. > >http://www.healthcentral.com/News/NewsFullText.cfm?ID=39045 & storytype=ReutersNe\ w > >Thanks!! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2001 Report Share Posted February 19, 2001 All of these meds effect people in different ways..one of the good things about the stimulants is that they take a much shorter time to see results in either direction(good or bad) than the SSRI's do, so if you need to change meds it can be accomplished much more quickly. My son was grumpier on lower doses of Concerta. We finally have this straightened out and he has been doing much better. --- Theresa <Pudding@...> wrote: > Hi > I just wanted to jump in on this discussion of > Concerta.My 16 year old has been on it for about 10 > days and I am now dealing with witch woman.I have a > call into the psychiatrist to see what he is going > to recommend.She even admitted that she didn't know > why she was acting the way she is. > > Theresa in SC > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2001 Report Share Posted February 21, 2001 Hi Judy Yes, Ellen was on Ritalin,but not because of ADD.Her psychiatrist was using ritalin to get her to stay awake and no, she was not witchie,but she didn't want to take a second dose when she came home from school and she was going back into her sleep pattern.I think that's why he decided to switch her to Concerta so she would only be taking the pill once a day.The pediatrician said that she has had to take a lot of her patients off of Concerta,too,because of irriatiblity. Theresa in SC concerta Hi I just wanted to jump in on this discussion of Concerta.My 16 year old has been on it for about 10 days and I am now dealing with witch woman.I have a call into the psychiatrist to see what he is going to recommend.She even admitted that she didn't know why she was acting the way she is. Theresa in SCYou may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. You may subscribe to the Parents of Adults with OCD List at parentsofadultswithOCD-subscribe . You may access the files, bookmarks, and archives for our list at . Our list advisors are Tamar Chansky, Ph.D., Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D., and Dan Geller, M.D. Our list moderators are Birkhan, Kathy Hammes, Jule Monnens, Gail Pesses, Kathy , and Jackie Stout. Subscription issues or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... . You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. You may subscribe to the Parents of Adults with OCD List at parentsofadultswithOCD-subscribe . You may access the files, bookmarks, and archives for our list at . Our list advisors are Tamar Chansky, Ph.D., Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D., and Dan Geller, M.D. Our list moderators are Birkhan, Kathy Hammes, Jule Monnens, Gail Pesses, Kathy , and Jackie Stout. Subscription issues or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at lharkins@... . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 a, What is the concerta for? Thanks Marisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2001 Report Share Posted April 12, 2001 It's a long acting form of Ritalin... advertised from breakfast to bed. The advantage is that one only needs to take it in the morning - avoiding the sometimes embarrassing trip to the nurses office for a noon time dose. I understand that it is very effective and many children who were on Ritalin are now doing great with Concerta. I am thinking of it for my 5 yr old who was just dx with ADHD (NDS). Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2001 Report Share Posted April 12, 2001 concerta is for add/hd, it is same thing as ritalin just has HCL added to it and is time released over 12hours. its Methylphenidate HCL, when ritalin is just Methylphenidate. and the mg's are different too, when it came out around 6-7months ago they were having a hard time with dosages, cause ritalin comes in 5mg, 10mg and 20mg, you know but they figured it out and its 18mgconcerta for the younger ones and 36mg for the older ones such as nathan. shawna. >From: poggim@... >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Concerta >Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:01:59 EDT > >a, > What is the concerta for? Thanks >Marisa > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 Thea: You can do a google search on Concerta, and see if anything comes up that gives half-life info (that's the length of time a med stays in the blood stream). www.mentalhealth.com also might have some info on it. Missy concerta For some strange reason my husband give my son a dose (well half-he wouldnt swallow the whole thing) of concerta-last night. He was still able to sleep ( I guess it has that effect on a hyperactive child). I made the teacher aware we started a low dose of meds. She wrote back that he was more focused today. The question is, is this a placebo effect for her, or does anyone have any experience with a med that continues to work the prescribed number of hours. I think concerta is a time released med that goes for 12 hours and he took it at 7:00 pm and gets to school at 8:30. Thea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 - Missy, Thanks for the info. Thea -- In autism@y..., " M. " <wmks1983@t...> wrote: > Thea: > > You can do a google search on Concerta, and see if anything comes up that > gives half-life info (that's the length of time a med stays in the blood > stream). www.mentalhealth.com also might have some info on it. > > Missy > > concerta > > > For some strange reason my husband give my son a dose (well half- he > wouldnt swallow the whole thing) of concerta-last night. He was > still able to sleep ( I guess it has that effect on a hyperactive > child). I made the teacher aware we started a low dose of meds. She > wrote back that he was more focused today. The question is, is this > a placebo effect for her, or does anyone have any experience with a > med that continues to work the prescribed number of hours. I think > concerta is a time released med that goes for 12 hours and he took > it at 7:00 pm and gets to school at 8:30. > > Thea > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Dear Amber: I wonder why your DAN doctor would want to see his reaction to Concerta. Concerta is time-release Ritilin. I have nothing good to say about it. My now 15 year old was on that and a bunch of other psych meds for 9 awful years until I stumbled upon that fact that he could be cured on supplements and such. It was a nightmare of changing docs, filling prescriptions, never symptom-free enough to do regular school, changing doses, changing meds. Its a waste of time, and he got all kinds of side effects. My son's symptoms are now absent, and he is in regular school with no modifications and no psych meds. I have him on digestive enzymes, ginger root capsules, cod liver oil, probiotics, multivitamins, mulitiminerals, B12 shots, melatonin (this ones for sleep), GF-CF diet, and epsom-salt cream. Thus, psych meds were cheaper because the insurance paid for the junk, but they were a waste of time. Now, they did work better than nothing, when that is all I knew to do. But digestive enzymes alone, worked better than any psych meds he was on. Heidi ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Try Pynogenol first--we have been using it this week with good success, and no effect on sleeping, unlike all the meds. [ ] Concerta My DAN wants me to try a trial of this on my 6 yr old son to see if it does anything for him. Has anyone ever used it before? Any advice, or input? Will it help him to sleep better? He is a horrible sleeper, it's usually yeast, but I don't think it's yeast now, because he just finished a round of diflucan, and he isn't acting in his usual yeasty way. But, he still wakes up after a couple of hours of sleep, happy and wide awake, and up for the rest of the night. Any advice for this long-term sleep deprived mom? Thanks. Amber. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 What I would do is google concerta risks and see if the benefits outweigh the risks. No one else can tell you that....for us it did have a time and place...before I found biomedical and found better things to do for my son's issues....why does he want you to put him on it? What issues are you facing....why don't you post that and see if there are any alternatives to what you are up against.... Concerta does help somethings...but there are better ways of dealing with the problems I think....but it is your call. HTH Ronni > My DAN wants me to try a trial of this on my 6 yr old son to see if it > does anything for him. Has anyone ever used it before? Any advice, or > input? > Will it help him to sleep better? He is a horrible sleeper, it's > usually yeast, but I don't think it's yeast now, because he just > finished a round of diflucan, and he isn't acting in his usual yeasty > way. But, he still wakes up after a couple of hours of sleep, happy > and wide awake, and up for the rest of the night. > Any advice for this long-term sleep deprived mom? > Thanks. > Amber. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 My son has a lot of energy- he isn't real hyper, but he can't sit still for very long. He thinks that if we can slow his brain down, he may be able to learn more things- he thinks his brain is racing too fast. I have tried a lot of other bio med interventions, enzymes, supplements, etc.. nothing has touched him. My DAN said that 2 of his patients lost their diagnosis on concerta. I have 5 pills, I am supposed to give him 1 tomorrow morning, 1 the next morning, if I don't see any difference, then 2 the next morning, and 2 the next. If still no change, then he said that they aren't doing anything for him, and to quit giving him them. Another one of my son's biggest issues (well, mine, too) is that he doesn't sleep at night. He usually goes to sleep fine, but wakes up after about 4-5 hours and is awake for the rest of the night- so I don't get any sleep either. My son has never been a sleeper- but I am wondering if his brain isn't just continuously tired and can't learn?? I have given him melatonin, high doses of melatonin, slow release melatonin, 5-HTP, and nothing helps. I have also given him CLO. I don't know what to do next. Thanks. Amber. On 8/17/07, ronnimike <HISSPECIALTOUCH@...> wrote: > > What I would do is google concerta risks and see if the benefits > outweigh the risks. No one else can tell you that....for us it did > have a time and place...before I found biomedical and found better > things to do for my son's issues....why does he want you to put him on > it? What issues are you facing....why don't you post that and see if > there are any alternatives to what you are up against.... > Concerta does help somethings...but there are better ways of dealing > with the problems I think....but it is your call. > HTH > Ronni > > > My DAN wants me to try a trial of this on my 6 yr old son to see if > it > > does anything for him. Has anyone ever used it before? Any advice, or > > input? > > Will it help him to sleep better? He is a horrible sleeper, it's > > usually yeast, but I don't think it's yeast now, because he just > > finished a round of diflucan, and he isn't acting in his usual yeasty > > way. But, he still wakes up after a couple of hours of sleep, happy > > and wide awake, and up for the rest of the night. > > Any advice for this long-term sleep deprived mom? > > Thanks. > > Amber. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 > > My son has a lot of energy- he isn't real hyper, but he can't sit still for > very long. He thinks that if we can slow his brain down, he may be able to > learn more things- he thinks his brain is racing too fast. No exp. w/concerta,etc - but the above sentence caught my eye....eggs & zinc, for us... This sounds like what we call " brain zinging " around here. For me, taking cal/mag/zinc helped with this immensely about ten years ago. This didn't " get rid " of it tho, just helped bunches. More recently, after info here & elsewhere, decided to add more zinc - thinking copper too high. (I know there are prob other things I do or did relating to this, but " made my rules " quite awhile ago - maybe someone could add to this, if sounds helpful?) Anyway, did this mostly by eating more seeds, esp. pumpkin & sunflower. Did take zinc supps, divided 3-4x a day, sporadically, as taking them made symptoms worse & I associated that with copper dumping, because after each time (round,so to speak), felt so much better/calmer. Seems to have worked - took a good year tho. I no longer have that " frantic " quality that has been assumed an " innate " part of being me. (by myself & everyone else) For kids & others, zinc seems to help immensely, as does epsom salts...Usually try tweaking our foods first, esp. protein foods (again, usually seeds & nuts, for this one) and/or eggs. Just tweaking the foods for awhile worked very well around here. For my " add tendency " kid, eggs were an absolute " need to eat daily " to " slow him down. " Even as a young adult today, this is still true. If he is Moving, Moving, Moving and seems to be getting nowhere in a really big hurry - chances are he hasn't been eating eggs lately.... " with " eggs, he still moves faster and farther than most of the rest of the world, but it is soooo much more focused & productive. fwiw wishing you good answers elizabeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Amber..have you tried removing gluten & casein from his diet? in MD Re: [ ] Re: Concerta > My son has a lot of energy- he isn't real hyper, but he can't sit still > for > very long. He thinks that if we can slow his brain down, he may be able to > learn more things- he thinks his brain is racing too fast. I have tried a > lot of other bio med interventions, enzymes, supplements, etc.. nothing > has > touched him. My DAN said that 2 of his patients lost their diagnosis on > concerta. I have 5 pills, I am supposed to give him 1 tomorrow morning, 1 > the next morning, if I don't see any difference, then 2 the next morning, > and 2 the next. If still no change, then he said that they aren't doing > anything for him, and to quit giving him them. > Another one of my son's biggest issues (well, mine, too) is that he > doesn't > sleep at night. He usually goes to sleep fine, but wakes up after about > 4-5 > hours and is awake for the rest of the night- so I don't get any sleep > either. My son has never been a sleeper- but I am wondering if his brain > isn't just continuously tired and can't learn?? > I have given him melatonin, high doses of melatonin, slow release > melatonin, > 5-HTP, and nothing helps. > I have also given him CLO. > I don't know what to do next. > Thanks. > Amber. > > On 8/17/07, ronnimike <HISSPECIALTOUCH@...> wrote: >> >> What I would do is google concerta risks and see if the benefits >> outweigh the risks. No one else can tell you that....for us it did >> have a time and place...before I found biomedical and found better >> things to do for my son's issues....why does he want you to put him on >> it? What issues are you facing....why don't you post that and see if >> there are any alternatives to what you are up against.... >> Concerta does help somethings...but there are better ways of dealing >> with the problems I think....but it is your call. >> HTH >> Ronni >> >> > My DAN wants me to try a trial of this on my 6 yr old son to see if >> it >> > does anything for him. Has anyone ever used it before? Any advice, or >> > input? >> > Will it help him to sleep better? He is a horrible sleeper, it's >> > usually yeast, but I don't think it's yeast now, because he just >> > finished a round of diflucan, and he isn't acting in his usual yeasty >> > way. But, he still wakes up after a couple of hours of sleep, happy >> > and wide awake, and up for the rest of the night. >> > Any advice for this long-term sleep deprived mom? >> > Thanks. >> > Amber. >> > >> >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Actually, yes. My son has been GFCF corn, soy, yeast, peanut, coco, all sugar free for over a year and a half, now. Thanks to everyone for your responses. I took my son for some blood tests that I had to take him off of all vitamins and minerals for 7 days prior to the tests, and I have been lazy with putting the supplements back in, and since I have taken everything out, I have noticed his sleep getting worse. So, I will start putting supplements back in. Thanks. Amber. On 8/17/07, Letaw <annaletaw@...> wrote: > > Amber..have you tried removing gluten & casein from his diet? > > in MD > > Re: [ ] Re: Concerta > > > My son has a lot of energy- he isn't real hyper, but he can't sit still > > for > > very long. He thinks that if we can slow his brain down, he may be able > to > > learn more things- he thinks his brain is racing too fast. I have tried > a > > lot of other bio med interventions, enzymes, supplements, etc.. nothing > > has > > touched him. My DAN said that 2 of his patients lost their diagnosis on > > concerta. I have 5 pills, I am supposed to give him 1 tomorrow morning, > 1 > > the next morning, if I don't see any difference, then 2 the next > morning, > > and 2 the next. If still no change, then he said that they aren't doing > > anything for him, and to quit giving him them. > > Another one of my son's biggest issues (well, mine, too) is that he > > doesn't > > sleep at night. He usually goes to sleep fine, but wakes up after about > > 4-5 > > hours and is awake for the rest of the night- so I don't get any sleep > > either. My son has never been a sleeper- but I am wondering if his brain > > isn't just continuously tired and can't learn?? > > I have given him melatonin, high doses of melatonin, slow release > > melatonin, > > 5-HTP, and nothing helps. > > I have also given him CLO. > > I don't know what to do next. > > Thanks. > > Amber. > > > > On 8/17/07, ronnimike <HISSPECIALTOUCH@...<HISSPECIALTOUCH%40aol.com>> > wrote: > >> > >> What I would do is google concerta risks and see if the benefits > >> outweigh the risks. No one else can tell you that....for us it did > >> have a time and place...before I found biomedical and found better > >> things to do for my son's issues....why does he want you to put him on > >> it? What issues are you facing....why don't you post that and see if > >> there are any alternatives to what you are up against.... > >> Concerta does help somethings...but there are better ways of dealing > >> with the problems I think....but it is your call. > >> HTH > >> Ronni > >> > >> > My DAN wants me to try a trial of this on my 6 yr old son to see if > >> it > >> > does anything for him. Has anyone ever used it before? Any advice, or > >> > input? > >> > Will it help him to sleep better? He is a horrible sleeper, it's > >> > usually yeast, but I don't think it's yeast now, because he just > >> > finished a round of diflucan, and he isn't acting in his usual yeasty > >> > way. But, he still wakes up after a couple of hours of sleep, happy > >> > and wide awake, and up for the rest of the night. > >> > Any advice for this long-term sleep deprived mom? > >> > Thanks. > >> > Amber. > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 Amber, I am an adult on the spectrum, and I tried Concerta for my ADD symptoms, but because I have general anxiety, I went ballistic on it. Tried it for two weeks, and I got to the point where I was having full-blown panic attacks. I stopped, and I started taking L-Theanine. Just an amino acid thought to help with anxiety and concentration. It's working great for me. Not a miracle, but a nice little added calm. HTH, Robyn In a message dated 8/19/2007 11:17:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, eislerfamily@... writes: I gave my son the first concerta yesterday morning. About an hour later, he got all freaked out, and freaked out for a couple of hours. Then, for the next few hours, he was nice and calm, played by himself, was happy. Then, my husband got home from work, and my son went all weird again. His OCD EXPLODED!!!! and he was upset and unsettled, very emotional- cried brokenheartedly very easily- stayed like that for the rest of the night- was very bothered. He woke up with a diaper FULL of mushy goo, and it was bright red- he didn't eat or drink anything red yesterday- that's concerning me. So, I am not giving him anymore. Oh, and he didn't sleep well, but that's normal for him. He got up and ate a cake (not on his diet) that I made for company that we're having tomorrow. My husband left it on the kitchen counter- he knows better, my son gets up in the night and eats anything he can find, which is why we have locks on our fridge and all cupboards. So, I got up to a giggling , and gave him some enzymes. Now, I'm off to the store to buy more cake ingredients. Amber. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 I gave my son the first concerta yesterday morning. About an hour later, he got all freaked out, and freaked out for a couple of hours. Then, for the next few hours, he was nice and calm, played by himself, was happy. Then, my husband got home from work, and my son went all weird again. His OCD EXPLODED!!!! and he was upset and unsettled, very emotional- cried brokenheartedly very easily- stayed like that for the rest of the night- was very bothered. He woke up with a diaper FULL of mushy goo, and it was bright red- he didn't eat or drink anything red yesterday- that's concerning me. So, I am not giving him anymore. Oh, and he didn't sleep well, but that's normal for him. He got up and ate a cake (not on his diet) that I made for company that we're having tomorrow. My husband left it on the kitchen counter- he knows better, my son gets up in the night and eats anything he can find, which is why we have locks on our fridge and all cupboards. So, I got up to a giggling , and gave him some enzymes. Now, I'm off to the store to buy more cake ingredients. Amber. On 8/18/07, Amber Eisler <eislerfamily@...> wrote: > > Actually, yes. My son has been GFCF corn, soy, yeast, peanut, coco, all > sugar free for over a year and a half, now. Thanks to everyone for your > responses. I took my son for some blood tests that I had to take him off of > all vitamins and minerals for 7 days prior to the tests, and I have been > lazy with putting the supplements back in, and since I have taken everything > out, I have noticed his sleep getting worse. So, I will start putting > supplements back in. > Thanks. > Amber. > > > On 8/17/07, Letaw <annaletaw@...> wrote: > > > > Amber..have you tried removing gluten & casein from his diet? > > > > in MD > > > > Re: [ ] Re: Concerta > > > > > My son has a lot of energy- he isn't real hyper, but he can't sit > > still > > > for > > > very long. He thinks that if we can slow his brain down, he may be > > able to > > > learn more things- he thinks his brain is racing too fast. I have > > tried a > > > lot of other bio med interventions, enzymes, supplements, etc.. > > nothing > > > has > > > touched him. My DAN said that 2 of his patients lost their diagnosis > > on > > > concerta. I have 5 pills, I am supposed to give him 1 tomorrow > > morning, 1 > > > the next morning, if I don't see any difference, then 2 the next > > morning, > > > and 2 the next. If still no change, then he said that they aren't > > doing > > > anything for him, and to quit giving him them. > > > Another one of my son's biggest issues (well, mine, too) is that he > > > doesn't > > > sleep at night. He usually goes to sleep fine, but wakes up after > > about > > > 4-5 > > > hours and is awake for the rest of the night- so I don't get any sleep > > > either. My son has never been a sleeper- but I am wondering if his > > brain > > > isn't just continuously tired and can't learn?? > > > I have given him melatonin, high doses of melatonin, slow release > > > melatonin, > > > 5-HTP, and nothing helps. > > > I have also given him CLO. > > > I don't know what to do next. > > > Thanks. > > > Amber. > > > > > > On 8/17/07, ronnimike < HISSPECIALTOUCH@...<HISSPECIALTOUCH%40aol.com>> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> What I would do is google concerta risks and see if the benefits > > >> outweigh the risks. No one else can tell you that....for us it did > > >> have a time and place...before I found biomedical and found better > > >> things to do for my son's issues....why does he want you to put him > > on > > >> it? What issues are you facing....why don't you post that and see if > > >> there are any alternatives to what you are up against.... > > >> Concerta does help somethings...but there are better ways of dealing > > >> with the problems I think....but it is your call. > > >> HTH > > >> Ronni > > >> > > >> > My DAN wants me to try a trial of this on my 6 yr old son to see if > > > > >> it > > >> > does anything for him. Has anyone ever used it before? Any advice, > > or > > >> > input? > > >> > Will it help him to sleep better? He is a horrible sleeper, it's > > >> > usually yeast, but I don't think it's yeast now, because he just > > >> > finished a round of diflucan, and he isn't acting in his usual > > yeasty > > >> > way. But, he still wakes up after a couple of hours of sleep, happy > > >> > and wide awake, and up for the rest of the night. > > >> > Any advice for this long-term sleep deprived mom? > > >> > Thanks. > > >> > Amber. > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 What do you theorize is in the eggs that helps, just the added protein or something else? [ ] Re: Concerta > > My son has a lot of energy- he isn't real hyper, but he can't sit still for > very long. He thinks that if we can slow his brain down, he may be able to > learn more things- he thinks his brain is racing too fast. No exp. w/concerta,etc - but the above sentence caught my eye....eggs & zinc, for us... This sounds like what we call " brain zinging " around here. For me, taking cal/mag/zinc helped with this immensely about ten years ago. This didn't " get rid " of it tho, just helped bunches. More recently, after info here & elsewhere, decided to add more zinc - thinking copper too high. (I know there are prob other things I do or did relating to this, but " made my rules " quite awhile ago - maybe someone could add to this, if sounds helpful?) Anyway, did this mostly by eating more seeds, esp. pumpkin & sunflower. Did take zinc supps, divided 3-4x a day, sporadically, as taking them made symptoms worse & I associated that with copper dumping, because after each time (round,so to speak), felt so much better/calmer. Seems to have worked - took a good year tho. I no longer have that " frantic " quality that has been assumed an " innate " part of being me. (by myself & everyone else) For kids & others, zinc seems to help immensely, as does epsom salts...Usually try tweaking our foods first, esp. protein foods (again, usually seeds & nuts, for this one) and/or eggs. Just tweaking the foods for awhile worked very well around here. For my " add tendency " kid, eggs were an absolute " need to eat daily " to " slow him down. " Even as a young adult today, this is still true. If he is Moving, Moving, Moving and seems to be getting nowhere in a really big hurry - chances are he hasn't been eating eggs lately.... " with " eggs, he still moves faster and farther than most of the rest of the world, but it is soooo much more focused & productive. fwiw wishing you good answers elizabeth ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.15/949 - Release Date: 8/12/2007 11:03 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 We get the omega 3 organic eggs too! Even better! I make french toast with the eggs and unsweetened pear juice or hemp milk. Awesome. My little guy loves cantaloupe too. Lots of nutrients there. In a message dated 8/19/2007 6:03:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, eli8591@... writes: I know I have leaned towards the taurine, as a big part of it - but (aarrggh - gotta say it again, get sooo frustrated w/this - how I remember things,yk?) am not sure of the details right now...I do know eggs are full of Alot of things that would seem helpful overall. Protein, for sure - but it is specifically eggs, for this kid, so that would not be the " whole " answer,yk? ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 I know I have leaned towards the taurine, as a big part of it - but (aarrggh - gotta say it again, get sooo frustrated w/this - how I remember things,yk?) am not sure of the details right now...I do know eggs are full of Alot of things that would seem helpful overall. Protein, for sure - but it is specifically eggs, for this kid, so that would not be the " whole " answer,yk? About ten-ish yrs ago, I did an info-slam (major belly probs, before big ulcer moment)....and looked for foods highest in multiple nutrients, dense in those nutrients, relatively cheap (single parent), that I would tolerate belly wise, and that would not aggravate my rheum. arth. symptoms ...whew Anyway, settled on eggs & cantaloupe, for starters - worked splendidly for me...sooo, ended up with them as basics ever since & over the years, have found multiple reasons why they would seem to work so well for me/us. This was also the same time period (because of my needs) that I found out how good eggs were for my ADD kid, preteen at that time...gotta love serendipity! Soooo, really am not sure there is " just one " big answer - have considered several possible reasons over the years, but ultimately remain very grateful that such a simple thing Does work for this kid of mine, yk? If you happen to find any " striking " info related to this, tho, I am always interested! fwiw wishing you good answers elizabeth > > > > My son has a lot of energy- he isn't real hyper, but he can't sit > still for > > very long. He thinks that if we can slow his brain down, he may be > able to > > learn more things- he thinks his brain is racing too fast. > > No exp. w/concerta,etc - but the above sentence caught my eye....eggs > & zinc, for us... > > This sounds like what we call " brain zinging " around here. For me, > taking cal/mag/zinc helped with this immensely about ten years ago. > This didn't " get rid " of it tho, just helped bunches. > > More recently, after info here & elsewhere, decided to add more > zinc - thinking copper too high. (I know there are prob other things > I do or did relating to this, but " made my rules " quite awhile ago - > maybe someone could add to this, if sounds helpful?) > > Anyway, did this mostly by eating more seeds, esp. pumpkin & > sunflower. Did take zinc supps, divided 3-4x a day, sporadically, as > taking them made symptoms worse & I associated that with copper > dumping, because after each time (round,so to speak), felt so much > better/calmer. Seems to have worked - took a good year tho. I no > longer have that " frantic " quality that has been assumed an " innate " > part of being me. (by myself & everyone else) > > For kids & others, zinc seems to help immensely, as does epsom > salts...Usually try tweaking our foods first, esp. protein foods > (again, usually seeds & nuts, for this one) and/or eggs. Just > tweaking the foods for awhile worked very well around here. > > For my " add tendency " kid, eggs were an absolute " need to eat daily " > to " slow him down. " Even as a young adult today, this is still > true. If he is Moving, Moving, Moving and seems to be getting > nowhere in a really big hurry - chances are he hasn't been eating > eggs lately.... " with " eggs, he still moves faster and farther than > most of the rest of the world, but it is soooo much more focused & > productive. > > fwiw > wishing you good answers > elizabeth > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.15/949 - Release Date: 8/12/2007 11:03 AM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 What are the chickens fed to raise the Omega 3 content? Hopefully, not fish remnants. Pam > > > We get the omega 3 organic eggs too! Even better! I make french toast with > the eggs and unsweetened pear juice or hemp milk. Awesome. > My little guy loves cantaloupe too. Lots of nutrients there. > > > In a message dated 8/19/2007 6:03:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > eli8591@... writes: > > I know I have leaned towards the taurine, as a big part of it - but > (aarrggh - gotta say it again, get sooo frustrated w/this - how I > remember things,yk?) am not sure of the details right now...I do know > eggs are full of Alot of things that would seem helpful overall. > Protein, for sure - but it is specifically eggs, for this kid, so > that would not be the " whole " answer,yk? > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all- new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Nope, flax seeds! In a message dated 8/20/2007 2:35:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, eli8591@... writes: What are the chickens fed to raise the Omega 3 content? Hopefully, > not fish remnants. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 There are days, when there is just too much " bad " info out there, that I just want to live on sticks & leaves, with a few weeds for dessert, yk? No one is trying to sell those...yet!! (germs, someone mention germs...germs are the least of my worries these days - that would be dh's voice in my head, btw!...) anyway.... For eggs, our favorites are from the farmers market - I sooo want to go be a " squatter " at someone's farm for awhile, in a tent, as I am also sooo done with houses. I can dream...ah well. ...otherwise, we are kinda stuck with finding the " better than " eggs - and all the details involved in that decision...ugh. wishing all good answers elizabeth > > > > > > We get the omega 3 organic eggs too! Even better! I make french > toast with > > the eggs and unsweetened pear juice or hemp milk. Awesome. > > My little guy loves cantaloupe too. Lots of nutrients there. > > > > > > In a message dated 8/19/2007 6:03:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > eli8591@ writes: > > > > I know I have leaned towards the taurine, as a big part of it - > but > > (aarrggh - gotta say it again, get sooo frustrated w/this - how I > > remember things,yk?) am not sure of the details right now...I do > know > > eggs are full of Alot of things that would seem helpful overall. > > Protein, for sure - but it is specifically eggs, for this kid, so > > that would not be the " whole " answer,yk? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all- > new AOL at > > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 > > > Nope, flax seeds! > > > > In a message dated 8/20/2007 2:35:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > eli8591@... writes: ====not me, was Pam asking this! lol....like the info tho! elizabeth > > What are the chickens fed to raise the Omega 3 content? Hopefully, > > not fish remnants. > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all- new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 I think it's flax as well - after I read about it I started adding ground seeds to my hens' diet for the added EFAs. -- In , RobynRG311@... wrote: > > > Nope, flax seeds! > > > > In a message dated 8/20/2007 2:35:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > eli8591@... writes: > > What are the chickens fed to raise the Omega 3 content? Hopefully, > > not fish remnants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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