Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 livin with crohns, I too would like as much information regarding LDN and crohns. My daughter is 23 years old and was diagnosed 3 years ago with crohns. She was first diagnosed with celiac sprue and was directed to eat as a celiac which she did. That was the demise of her. She is 5"7' and she went down to 83 pounds when she finally was diagnosed in the ER by a Gastrointerologist that just started practicing. He saved her life. He wanted to avoid 6MP and remicade but because of all the damage to the Ilieum area she just got worse when she weaned off the antibiotics and steroids. She started 6mp and was rushed to the hospital with pancreatitis so that was off the table forever then it was some more steroids, antibiotics then Flagyl. None of which made a huge difference. She was in pain all the time and getting worse. She was in bed more times than not and just depressed doing her college work online. The Drs. kept pushing remicade as the only thing left and she was worn down with all this. She just wanted to feel better. We discussed this option as something to help get her in a good place with her weight and her iron, while I continued to search for another option. She started remicade Jan 2006. We were and still are not happy every time that IV goes into her arm for 2 1/2 hours. I have been investigating all options and stumbled on LDN about 9 months ago while praying what question to type into the computer that would lead me to better options. Cutting to the chase here there might have been some evidence that she is forming remicade antibodies and her time might been very limited on this drug. Her hemoglobin is dropping low again and she needs another iron transfusion. The Gastro told her today that she will probably need iron infusions every 6 months to a year. This is not unacceptable to her and to me. She is just starting to live a normal life with a normal job and she is engaged. I have read that she has to be off remicade 4 weeks before starting LDN. I was at the MS center today with my best friend who has MS. She tried to get the neurologist to write her a LDN prescription and the answer was that she ( the neurologist) could not ethically do it nor would she even know how to write the prescription. She referred her to a DR. in our area that writes LDN scripts. Unbeknownst to this Neurologist we had already been in contact with this LDN Dr and the wait to see him is 4-6 months. My friend has a phone consultation next week with a Dr in Pennsylvania because we were fully prepared for that answer. I have read the book " Up the Creek with a Paddle" so I could possibly help my best friend now I need some help for my daughter with Crohns before this becomes a nightmare for her.. Is there anybody out there that has made the transition from remicade to LDN????????? Thank you Kathy a mom in NJ It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Hi Kathy, I understand full well how you feel - because I also have a daughter with Crohns. has tried all the same meds as your daughter minus the Remicade. She is currently on Sulfasalizine and LDN only - started both about 5 months ago. So far its kinda been hard to judge if these meds are healing her gut yet because she still has cramps most days. I have spoken to several people on this board - (who have been extremely very nice to me!) who all say that my daughter should continue the LDN for at least a year because sometimes it can takes that long - or longer - for it to show a real change. My daughter's weight has remained steady so that's a real positive sign in itself! also attends University like your daughter. I noted that you live in NJ - we are in NY! If ever you would like to talk, pls. feel free to email me for my number. I wish your daughter the very best. Take care, paulette In a message dated 3/3/2008 5:18:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, KatheeLouD@... writes: livin with crohns, I too would like as much information regarding LDN and crohns. My daughter is 23 years old and was diagnosed 3 years ago with crohns. She was first diagnosed with celiac sprue and was directed to eat as a celiac which she did. That was the demise of her. She is 5"7' and she went down to 83 pounds when she finally was diagnosed in the ER by a Gastrointerologist that just started practicing. He saved her life. He wanted to avoid 6MP and remicade but because of all the damage to the Ilieum area she just got worse when she weaned off the antibiotics and steroids. She started 6mp and was rushed to the hospital with pancreatitis so that was off the table forever then it was some more steroids, antibiotics then Flagyl. None of which made a huge difference. She was in pain all the time and getting worse. She was in bed more times than not and just depressed doing her college work online. The Drs. kept pushing remicade as the only thing left and she was worn down with all this. She just wanted to feel better. We discussed this option as something to help get her in a good place with her weight and her iron, while I continued to search for another option. She started remicade Jan 2006. We were and still are not happy every time that IV goes into her arm for 2 1/2 hours. I have been investigating all options and stumbled on LDN about 9 months ago while praying what question to type into the computer that would lead me to better options. Cutting to the chase here there might have been some evidence that she is forming remicade antibodies and her time might been very limited on this drug. Her hemoglobin is dropping low again and she needs another iron transfusion. The Gastro told her today that she will probably need iron infusions every 6 months to a year. This is not unacceptable to her and to me. She is just starting to live a normal life with a normal job and she is engaged. I have read that she has to be off remicade 4 weeks before starting LDN. I was at the MS center today with my best friend who has MS. She tried to get the neurologist to write her a LDN prescription and the answer was that she ( the neurologist) could not ethically do it nor would she even know how to write the prescription. She referred her to a DR. in our area that writes LDN scripts. Unbeknownst to this Neurologist we had already been in contact with this LDN Dr and the wait to see him is 4-6 months. My friend has a phone consultation next week with a Dr in Pennsylvania because we were fully prepared for that answer. I have read the book " Up the Creek with a Paddle" so I could possibly help my best friend now I need some help for my daughter with Crohns before this becomes a nightmare for her.. Is there anybody out there that has made the transition from remicade to LDN????????? Thank you Kathy a mom in NJ It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance. It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I was also leery of taking the immune suppressants especially since my wife already has chronic Lyme disease. I had three inches of my small bowel removed because of a stricture at 45 years old. I used various antiinflammatory natural treatments such as Turmeric Ginger and Krill oil to suppress symptoms. This worked well enough but I wanted to get beyond treating symptoms so I went on LDN. Along with the LDN I also use MMS (Miracle Mineral Supplement)once a week to kill pathogenic bacteria in my intestinal tract. I will not respond to any questions on this forum regarding MMS since it is not related to LDN and it is controversial. Simply google it and do your own research. I do have to mention it since it is part of my treatment. I am completely symptom free today because of either or both treatments. That does not mean everyone will have the same results, but this is how it worked for me. The LDN is a no brainer. You get protection from cancer, MS, and a host of other diseases along with any other direct benefit. It helps people to varying degrees with Crohn's. There is really no way of knowing other than trying it out. Do use one of the recommended compounding pharmacy's. You can contact this office for telephone consults for LDN (see link below). This is who I used. Do not waste too much time trying to convince any doctor to prescribe. It is easier to deal with doctors already familiar with LDN. http://www.contemporarymedicine.net/ Good Luck D Bergy > > Hello friends, > > I have was diagnosed with Crohn's Disease in June, 1978. I have had > one surgery (Ileocolectomy/resection) in December, 2002. I have > been " on and off " treatments (without great results) throughout the > last 30 years. I have a great deal of interest in starting treatment > with LDN. > > I am terrified of the treatment " options " that are available to > Crohn's patients today, namely Remicade, Humira, 6-MP, etc. because > of the harsh/extreme side effects. My GI specialist has scheduled > Remicade treatments for me twice, which I have canceled, therefore, I > am not currently on treatment. > > I have discussed using LDN with my GI (north Florida). He > said, " Well, we might try that if nothing else worked for you. " I > have an appointment to discuss my recent Upper GI results this week > and plan to stand firm on my decision to try LDN for treatment of > Crohn's. He already knows that I have done extensive research on it. > > ***I have an interest in hearing from other Crohn's patients and > their experience with LDN. > > ***Does anyone have any suggestions about the " best " way to convince > my GI to write me a `script? I know that there are other docs that > will do phone consults (I plan to mention that to him, if need be). > I already contacted one doctor that is located about 4 hours from me > who stated that he would not be able to " monitor " me on LDN (because > of the distance between us) and suggested that I find a doctor closer > to me. > > ***If anyone has a list of RELIABLE doctors that will do phone > consults, I would appreciate a copy please? > > Any other suggestions would be appreciated! > > Thank you in advance for your help! > > livinwithcrohns > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Livin, One of the best ways to convince your doctor is to give him a copy of the clinical trials information page on low dose naltrexone.org. Also, if you email me directly (elfreem@...) I'll email you a copy of 's study to show him. Although it was a preliminary trial the results were impressive. Elliot > > Hello friends, > > I have was diagnosed with Crohn's Disease in June, 1978. I have had > one surgery (Ileocolectomy/resection) in December, 2002. I have > been " on and off " treatments (without great results) throughout the > last 30 years. I have a great deal of interest in starting treatment > with LDN. > > I am terrified of the treatment " options " that are available to > Crohn's patients today, namely Remicade, Humira, 6-MP, etc. because > of the harsh/extreme side effects. My GI specialist has scheduled > Remicade treatments for me twice, which I have canceled, therefore, I > am not currently on treatment. > > I have discussed using LDN with my GI (north Florida). He > said, " Well, we might try that if nothing else worked for you. " I > have an appointment to discuss my recent Upper GI results this week > and plan to stand firm on my decision to try LDN for treatment of > Crohn's. He already knows that I have done extensive research on it. > > ***I have an interest in hearing from other Crohn's patients and > their experience with LDN. > > ***Does anyone have any suggestions about the " best " way to convince > my GI to write me a `script? I know that there are other docs that > will do phone consults (I plan to mention that to him, if need be). > I already contacted one doctor that is located about 4 hours from me > who stated that he would not be able to " monitor " me on LDN (because > of the distance between us) and suggested that I find a doctor closer > to me. > > ***If anyone has a list of RELIABLE doctors that will do phone > consults, I would appreciate a copy please? > > Any other suggestions would be appreciated! > > Thank you in advance for your help! > > livinwithcrohns > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Patient Guide: How To Talk to Your Doctor about LDN http://www.gazorpa.com/PatientGuide.html Art -- > > Hello friends, > > I have was diagnosed with Crohn's Disease in June, 1978. I have had > one surgery (Ileocolectomy/resection) in December, 2002. I have > been " on and off " treatments (without great results) throughout the > last 30 years. I have a great deal of interest in starting treatment > with LDN. > > I am terrified of the treatment " options " that are available to > Crohn's patients today, namely Remicade, Humira, 6-MP, etc. because > of the harsh/extreme side effects. My GI specialist has scheduled > Remicade treatments for me twice, which I have canceled, therefore, I > am not currently on treatment. > > I have discussed using LDN with my GI (north Florida). He > said, " Well, we might try that if nothing else worked for you. " I > have an appointment to discuss my recent Upper GI results this week > and plan to stand firm on my decision to try LDN for treatment of > Crohn's. He already knows that I have done extensive research on it. > > ***I have an interest in hearing from other Crohn's patients and > their experience with LDN. > > ***Does anyone have any suggestions about the " best " way to convince > my GI to write me a `script? I know that there are other docs that > will do phone consults (I plan to mention that to him, if need be). > I already contacted one doctor that is located about 4 hours from me > who stated that he would not be able to " monitor " me on LDN (because > of the distance between us) and suggested that I find a doctor closer > to me. > > ***If anyone has a list of RELIABLE doctors that will do phone > consults, I would appreciate a copy please? > > Any other suggestions would be appreciated! > > Thank you in advance for your help! > > livinwithcrohns > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 I have moderate to severe Crohn's and also refused to start Remicade, Humira, 6-MP due to the side effects. I started LDN in May of 2007. It has been a great success. My Crohn's symptoms are approximately 95% gone. If you have specific questions you would like answered - you can e-mail me privately at dschwar4321@.... I would be happy to answer any questions you might have. Dena [low dose naltrexone] Crohn's and LDN Hello friends, I have was diagnosed with Crohn's Disease in June, 1978. I have had one surgery (Ileocolectomy/resection) in December, 2002. I have been "on and off" treatments (without great results) throughout the last 30 years. I have a great deal of interest in starting treatment with LDN. I am terrified of the treatment "options" that are available to Crohn's patients today, namely Remicade, Humira, 6-MP, etc. because of the harsh/extreme side effects. My GI specialist has scheduled Remicade treatments for me twice, which I have canceled, therefore, I am not currently on treatment. I have discussed using LDN with my GI (north Florida). He said, "Well, we might try that if nothing else worked for you." I have an appointment to discuss my recent Upper GI results this week and plan to stand firm on my decision to try LDN for treatment of Crohn's. He already knows that I have done extensive research on it. ***I have an interest in hearing from other Crohn's patients and their experience with LDN. ***Does anyone have any suggestions about the "best" way to convince my GI to write me a `script? I know that there are other docs that will do phone consults (I plan to mention that to him, if need be). I already contacted one doctor that is located about 4 hours from me who stated that he would not be able to "monitor" me on LDN (because of the distance between us) and suggested that I find a doctor closer to me. ***If anyone has a list of RELIABLE doctors that will do phone consults, I would appreciate a copy please? Any other suggestions would be appreciated! Thank you in advance for your help! livinwithcrohns Supercharge your AIM. Get the AIM toolbar for your browser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 I was told that Dr G. Ayre, M.D. no longer is doing Phone Consults.... Hugs & Blessings, Crystal LDN_Users Group Owner Diagnosed November 2004 with Secondary Progressive MS, Transverse Myelitis and an Advocate for LDN!! 2 years & 6 months on LDN with Skip's Pharmacy..... Crystal's MS,TM & LDN Website Crystal's LDN Gift Shop Crystal's LDN Support Group Skip's Compounding Pharmacy LDN Website [low dose naltrexone] Re: Crohn's and LDN I was also leery of taking the immune suppressants especially since mywife already has chronic Lyme disease.I had three inches of my small bowel removed because of a stricture at45 years old.I used various antiinflammatory natural treatments such as TurmericGinger and Krill oil to suppress symptoms. This worked well enoughbut I wanted to get beyond treating symptoms so I went on LDN.Along with the LDN I also use MMS (Miracle Mineral Supplement)once aweek to kill pathogenic bacteria in my intestinal tract. I will notrespond to any questions on this forum regarding MMS since it is notrelated to LDN and it is controversial. Simply google it and do yourown research. I do have to mention it since it is part of my treatment.I am completely symptom free today because of either or bothtreatments. That does not mean everyone will have the same results,but this is how it worked for me.The LDN is a no brainer. You get protection from cancer, MS, and ahost of other diseases along with any other direct benefit. It helpspeople to varying degrees with Crohn's. There is really no way ofknowing other than trying it out. Do use one of the recommendedcompounding pharmacy's.You can contact this office for telephone consults for LDN (see linkbelow). This is who I used. Do not waste too much time trying toconvince any doctor to prescribe. It is easier to deal with doctorsalready familiar with LDN.http://www.contempo rarymedicine. net/Good LuckD Bergy>> Hello friends,> > I have was diagnosed with Crohn's Disease in June, 1978. I have had > one surgery (Ileocolectomy/ resection) in December, 2002. I have > been "on and off" treatments (without great results) throughout the > last 30 years. I have a great deal of interest in starting treatment > with LDN. > > I am terrified of the treatment "options" that are available to > Crohn's patients today, namely Remicade, Humira, 6-MP, etc. because > of the harsh/extreme side effects. My GI specialist has scheduled > Remicade treatments for me twice, which I have canceled, therefore, I > am not currently on treatment.> > I have discussed using LDN with my GI (north Florida). He > said, "Well, we might try that if nothing else worked for you." I > have an appointment to discuss my recent Upper GI results this week > and plan to stand firm on my decision to try LDN for treatment of > Crohn's. He already knows that I have done extensive research on it.> > ***I have an interest in hearing from other Crohn's patients and > their experience with LDN. > > ***Does anyone have any suggestions about the "best" way to convince > my GI to write me a `script? I know that there are other docs that > will do phone consults (I plan to mention that to him, if need be). > I already contacted one doctor that is located about 4 hours from me > who stated that he would not be able to "monitor" me on LDN (because > of the distance between us) and suggested that I find a doctor closer > to me. > > ***If anyone has a list of RELIABLE doctors that will do phone > consults, I would appreciate a copy please?> > Any other suggestions would be appreciated!> > Thank you in advance for your help!> > livinwithcrohns> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 This is where you can find the fullest report on Dr. 's Crohn's pilot study, scroll down to the section titled > Penn State Trial for Crohn's Disease and you will see the photos, report, and chart of CDAI scores (decreased significantly). http://www.low dose naltrexone.org/ldn_trials.htm The Penn State website for the ongoing study is http://www.hmc.psu.edu/colorectal/research/naltrexone.htm SammyJo > > > I too would like as much information regarding LDN and crohns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Dear friends, I want to SHOUT OUT(!) a great big THANK YOU(!) to all who have shared with me a wealth of information! I can't thank you enough! I feel ready to meet this challenge (getting my " local " GI to prescribe LDN for me) but also have a secondary plan in case that mission should fail. I am determined to take better care of myself and I truly believe that LDN is the BEST treatment alternative for ME. I stand strong and am thankful for YOUR support! Thank you SO MUCH! livinwithcrohns > > Hello friends, > > I have was diagnosed with Crohn's Disease in June, 1978. I have had > one surgery (Ileocolectomy/resection) in December, 2002. I have > been " on and off " treatments (without great results) throughout the > last 30 years. I have a great deal of interest in starting treatment > with LDN. > > I am terrified of the treatment " options " that are available to > Crohn's patients today, namely Remicade, Humira, 6-MP, etc. because > of the harsh/extreme side effects. My GI specialist has scheduled > Remicade treatments for me twice, which I have canceled, therefore, I > am not currently on treatment. > > I have discussed using LDN with my GI (north Florida). He > said, " Well, we might try that if nothing else worked for you. " I > have an appointment to discuss my recent Upper GI results this week > and plan to stand firm on my decision to try LDN for treatment of > Crohn's. He already knows that I have done extensive research on it. > > ***I have an interest in hearing from other Crohn's patients and > their experience with LDN. > > ***Does anyone have any suggestions about the " best " way to convince > my GI to write me a `script? I know that there are other docs that > will do phone consults (I plan to mention that to him, if need be). > I already contacted one doctor that is located about 4 hours from me > who stated that he would not be able to " monitor " me on LDN (because > of the distance between us) and suggested that I find a doctor closer > to me. > > ***If anyone has a list of RELIABLE doctors that will do phone > consults, I would appreciate a copy please? > > Any other suggestions would be appreciated! > > Thank you in advance for your help! > > livinwithcrohns > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Hi there all LDN'ers... As a " newcomer " per today (may 14. 2008) in this forum, I feel that I will have to present myself briefly... I am a danish citizen, but currently living in Norway because i've found a VERY lovely girl here :-)) Being at the age of 53, I am not an old guy, nor a yongster... life has given me MY share of experiences, whitch may not differ mutch from people most common - marriage, children, divorce - AND Crohn's, Arthritis, Exzema (Pustulosis et palmo et Plantaris)- the latter three being my " true followers " for several years... was first diagnosed with Crohn's as late as may 2001 when i was hospitalized for a month (I developed an anal abcess which later turned into a fistula - PEST!!!) - for many years (since early 80's) my symptoms has been mainly rheumatic (swelling of, and VERY painfull joints, especially in the lower extremities - but not limited to...) + some " stomack problems " - pain, intermittent diarrhoea, rectal bleeding for YEARS (fresh blood on the tiolet paper)... still increasing in intensity over the years - NOW I am medicated with Imurel (Imuran), Prednisolone (only when symptoms are peaking) and Remicade (Infliximab) every 6 weeks (450-500mg/500ml solution intravenously) - the latter is (for now) the BEST MEDICATION EVER!!! It gives me some (about 4) weeks with a " close to total remission " in my illness :-)) The reason I joined this forum is that I now ALSO IS ON LDN - I'm so fortuned to have a Doctor who (at last!!!) gave me a prescription for ReVia - 28 tablets, enough for nearly 1 year of LDN in doses of approx. 4,5 mg/day ( " homemade " fluid water-solution taken orally every evening) - I have asked him for quite a long time - and my " Doctors " on the local Hospital too - with NO RESULT - BUT I KEPT ON BEGGING - april 14. (a month ago) I made an appointment with my Dr. (again), prepared a new " speech " AND a solid paperwork of documentation - he GAVE IN AT LAST, perhaps due to my " overwhelming appearence " ?? - I don't know, but I GOT WHAT I WANTED!! Being on LDN for exactly 1 month, I now wonder... WHEN do/can I expect to see some positive effects?? Per today I CAN'T point out any significant, conclusive improvements... allthough something HAS CHANGED in my body - it's a somewhat strange feeling, as I said, I can't point out exactly WHAT - some " dizzieness " and a little bit of " numbness " - days with a HIGH ENERGY LEVEL - and days with the quite opposite - some mild sleep-disturbance the first week or so... Earlier in this project, I was beleiving that the effect was somewhat " instant " - but i this forum I've now seen several LDN'ers (of whom Crohn's patients naturally are of major interest to me) who experience everything from month's to a full year before reaching " point of max remission " ... I would like to hear from people out there (Crohn's/LDN'ers) and their personal " timeline " experience with LDN on Crohn's/IBD/UC and other comments on this particular matter... also experiences related to what kind of LDN is best (fluid/pills/powdered ReVia with EMU- oil/other..) Apologizing for any bad spelling - english is not my first language! Best regards Jensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Hi , I will send you out a copy of the "welcome e-mail" in a moment. Welcome to the group. Sometimes it takes a while before you see results with LDN. If you hare not having significant problems I would stay the course for at least 6 months. Ingrid should be of help with information on diet and supplements that should also complement your immune system building and help with the Crohn's. The skin issues always seem to take time. I am not sure if the medicines you are taking along with LDN are OK or not. Perhaps you can read through the "what not to take with LDN" e-mail I will send you and hopefully others more knowledgeable regarding what can be used with LDN will contact you as well. What part of Norway are you living in? My family is going in August. We will be traveling from Oslo to Haugesund for a week and then traveling to Copenhagen and staying there for a week. It will be our first trip there. We are from California. All my best Aletha [low dose naltrexone] Crohn's and LDN Hi there all LDN'ers...As a "newcomer" per today (may 14. 2008) in this forum, I feel that I will have to present myself briefly...I am a danish citizen, but currently living in Norway because i've found a VERY lovely girl here :-)) Being at the age of 53, I am not an old guy, nor a yongster... life has given me MY share of experiences, whitch may not differ mutch from people most common - marriage, children, divorce - AND Crohn's, Arthritis, Exzema (Pustulosis et palmo et Plantaris)- the latter three being my "true followers" for several years... was first diagnosed with Crohn's as late as may 2001 when i was hospitalized for a month (I developed an anal abcess which later turned into a fistula - PEST!!!) - for many years (since early 80's) my symptoms has been mainly rheumatic (swelling of, and VERY painfull joints, especially in the lower extremities - but not limited to...) + some "stomack problems" - pain, intermittent diarrhoea, rectal bleeding for YEARS (fresh blood on the tiolet paper)... still increasing in intensity over the years - NOW I am medicated with Imurel (Imuran), Prednisolone (only when symptoms are peaking) and Remicade (Infliximab) every 6 weeks (450-500mg/500ml solution intravenously) - the latter is (for now) the BEST MEDICATION EVER!!! It gives me some (about 4) weeks with a "close to total remission" in my illness :-))The reason I joined this forum is that I now ALSO IS ON LDN - I'm so fortuned to have a Doctor who (at last!!!) gave me a prescription for ReVia - 28 tablets, enough for nearly 1 year of LDN in doses of approx. 4,5 mg/day ("homemade" fluid water-solution taken orally every evening) - I have asked him for quite a long time - and my "Doctors" on the local Hospital too - with NO RESULT - BUT I KEPT ON BEGGING - april 14. (a month ago) I made an appointment with my Dr. (again), prepared a new "speech" AND a solid paperwork of documentation - he GAVE IN AT LAST, perhaps due to my "overwhelming appearence"?? - I don't know, but I GOT WHAT I WANTED!!Being on LDN for exactly 1 month, I now wonder... WHEN do/can I expect to see some positive effects?? Per today I CAN'T point out any significant, conclusive improvements... allthough something HAS CHANGED in my body - it's a somewhat strange feeling, as I said, I can't point out exactly WHAT - some "dizzieness" and a little bit of "numbness" - days with a HIGH ENERGY LEVEL - and days with the quite opposite - some mild sleep-disturbance the first week or so... Earlier in this project, I was beleiving that the effect was somewhat "instant" - but i this forum I've now seen several LDN'ers (of whom Crohn's patients naturally are of major interest to me) who experience everything from month's to a full year before reaching "point of max remission"...I would like to hear from people out there (Crohn's/LDN'ers) and their personal "timeline" experience with LDN on Crohn's/IBD/UC and other comments on this particular matter... also experiences related to what kind of LDN is best (fluid/pills/powdered ReVia with EMU-oil/other..)Apologizing for any bad spelling - english is not my first language!Best regards Jensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 , WELCOME! I am so happy that you are here! It is my understanding the Remicade should NOT be used with LDN and you will probably not benefit from LDN until the Remicade is out of your system (Crystal's prev. email indicated 50 days). When was your last infusion? I believe that you will need to make a choice of treatment – either Remicade –OR- LDN. I have had Crohn's for 30 years (progressed after surgery to Crohn's / Colitis) and have been unsuccessful with many treatments until now. I refused to go on Remicade or Humira because I feared the extreme side effects. LDN provided me with reduction of symptoms on the first day! I am an " undisciplined " Crohn's patient (poor choices with diet / alcohol consumption) but LDN still works for me! I no longer have the pain that I used to have before LDN. Before LDN I had diarrhea 10 – 20 times a day and now I have it 2 – 3 times a day (from poor diet / alcohol). I feel very, very good! I have been taking 4.5 mgs (capsule) of LDN since the first day and I had very minimal side effects in the first 2 weeks. In the first month I had a few " Crohns-ish " days but nothing compared to before LDN. I have had some irritation as a result of poor choices (diet / alcohol) but I continue to benefit from LDN every day! LDN has made a huge POSITIVE impact on my health! Please feel free to email me privately if you have any questions about my personal experience (pzellner@...). I am sure that you will get response from other " Crohnnies " here on this forum, ALL of the members have been very helpful to me! Kindest regards, Patti (a/k/a livinwithcrohns) *dx Crohn's - June 1978 *surgery - Dec. 2002 - Ileocolectomy/resection *dx Crohn's/Colitis/Acid Reflux - Feb. 2005 (2006) *B-12 injection (1cc/mo) – Dec. 2002 *LDN (4.5 mg) – March 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Hi , welcome to this forum, you'll sure get a lot of advices, people are great in here! I am not sure if it's correct to use Remicade in conjunction to LDN. Isn't remicade a TNFalfa immune modulator? I know that you have to stay away from immune suppressors and immune modulators as well. The only medicines that are legal with LDN due to Crohns meds are: Asacol and below 10 mg prednisone / 3 mg Entocort per day. Are you taking your LDN at nights? Are you using tablets, 3 mg, and use a cutter to get 1.5 mg as me? I think all in Norway get the medication from the same Pharmacy in Kragerø. I have written a long post (in norwegian ;-) to you in a private email and talked about Diets. I forgot to add these addresses: http://www.scdiet.org/ this is about a certain diet, helping a lot of people getting in remission. www.lucyskitchenshop.com this is about where to order a yogurtmaker to make your own yogurt with wholemilk and mix in Biola Naturell yogurt (the Norwegian).... this home made yogurt make your intestines feel good, cause it contains billions of probiotics that is helping the immune system to function better. Also another diet: search for The Makers diet. Use DLPA to help the immune system. order at www.iherb.com or may be you can find it in Denmark. We often use: Alpha Lipoic Acids too. An extraordinar strong antioxdidant. order from iherb, or even better: your doc in Norway can write you a rx on it. Good luck Ingrid [low dose naltrexone] Crohn's and LDNHi there all LDN'ers...As a "newcomer" per today (may 14. 2008) in this forum, I feel that I will have to present myself briefly...I am a danish citizen, but currently living in Norway because i've found a VERY lovely girl here :-)) Being at the age of 53, I am not an old guy, nor a yongster... life has given me MY share of experiences, whitch may not differ mutch from people most common - marriage, children, divorce - AND Crohn's, Arthritis, Exzema (Pustulosis et palmo et Plantaris)- the latter three being my "true followers" for several years... was first diagnosed with Crohn's as late as may 2001 when i was hospitalized for a month (I developed an anal abcess which later turned into a fistula - PEST!!!) - for many years (since early 80's) my symptoms has been mainly rheumatic (swelling of, and VERY painfull joints, especially in the lower extremities - but not limited to...) + some "stomack problems" - pain, intermittent diarrhoea, rectal bleeding for YEARS (fresh blood on the tiolet paper)... still increasing in intensity over the years - NOW I am medicated with Imurel (Imuran), Prednisolone (only when symptoms are peaking) and Remicade (Infliximab) every 6 weeks (450-500mg/500ml solution intravenously) - the latter is (for now) the BEST MEDICATION EVER!!! It gives me some (about 4) weeks with a "close to total remission" in my illness :-))The reason I joined this forum is that I now ALSO IS ON LDN - I'm so fortuned to have a Doctor who (at last!!!) gave me a prescription for ReVia - 28 tablets, enough for nearly 1 year of LDN in doses of approx. 4,5 mg/day ("homemade" fluid water-solution taken orally every evening) - I have asked him for quite a long time - and my "Doctors" on the local Hospital too - with NO RESULT - BUT I KEPT ON BEGGING - april 14. (a month ago) I made an appointment with my Dr. (again), prepared a new "speech" AND a solid paperwork of documentation - he GAVE IN AT LAST, perhaps due to my "overwhelming appearence"?? - I don't know, but I GOT WHAT I WANTED!!Being on LDN for exactly 1 month, I now wonder... WHEN do/can I expect to see some positive effects?? Per today I CAN'T point out any significant, conclusive improvements... allthough something HAS CHANGED in my body - it's a somewhat strange feeling, as I said, I can't point out exactly WHAT - some "dizzieness" and a little bit of "numbness" - days with a HIGH ENERGY LEVEL - and days with the quite opposite - some mild sleep-disturbance the first week or so... Earlier in this project, I was beleiving that the effect was somewhat "instant" - but i this forum I've now seen several LDN'ers (of whom Crohn's patients naturally are of major interest to me) who experience everything from month's to a full year before reaching "point of max remission"...I would like to hear from people out there (Crohn's/LDN'ers) and their personal "timeline" experience with LDN on Crohn's/IBD/UC and other comments on this particular matter... also experiences related to what kind of LDN is best (fluid/pills/powdered ReVia with EMU-oil/other..)Apologizing for any bad spelling - english is not my first language!Best regards Jensen ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Hi ette, I am in NYC area and would like to speak with you on the phone perhaps tomorrow. Let me know if that is a possibility. I will go with my daughter @4;20 tomorrow for her appt. with the gastrointerologist who would like to keep her on remicade and I am praying that my daughter will at least listen to me after that appt. regarding LDN. Thanks for your concern and response. Kathy DecosmoGet trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Hi Sherry, That is wonderful news about your son! I also have Chron's and recently started LDN. On Thurs night 12/25 I went up to a 3.0mg dose and hope in a week or so to be up to the 4.5mg therapeutic dose. I have been taking Bentyl and Pentaza. On Tues of this week 12/23 I stopped taking just the Pentaza since I felt symptoms return from when I got Pancreatitus back in Aug four months ago. The doctor determined I got he Pancreatitus from taking Pentaza. I'm hopping to get by without a new prescription from the GI doctor to replace the Pentaza. It would be great if the LDN started working for me with no other GI meds like your son is one now. Please get back to me when you can with info about your sons diet. I would really love to know more. Maybe it can help me as well. Also any other info you might find helpful would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help. Best, From: zahavi <zahavi100@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Crohn's and LDN updatelow dose naltrexone Date: Saturday, December 27, 2008, 7:01 AM that is amazing results.especially when you see that the remicade,the dangerous and expensive medecine does not work.>> Hello all- I just wanted to do another update about my 14 year old son > with Crohn's. His only med is LDN and he's also on a diet with no > fermented foods or foods he has been sensitive to. He previously had > severe, fistulizing Crohn's Disease with symptoms starting when he was > about 6 and later diagnosed. He had long, frequent hospitalizations. > Doctors were ready to do a colostomy. His growth was stunted and his > bottom was like swiss cheese with all of the holes from fistulas and > fissures. Not even Remicade relieved his symptoms.> > He's had slow and steady weight gain and has now been growing out of > his clothes after years at the same size. The past few days, I > actually forgot that he he was ever sick! Zero symptoms. Active and > healthy and happy. His fistulas are 90-95% healed and still slowly > improving.> > For my son, LDN and diet had to go hand in hand. One does not work > without the other, but together they are a miracle.> > -Sherry> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Hi Sherry It's the other Sherry who called you from Florida for advice about LDN for my daughter who has Crohn's. I am thrilled that you have seen success since I spoke with you. I'm being selfish of course as it gives me hope for my own kiddo. Did you use pills or cream or what? What kind of filler(s)? I am so very happy for your family. What a great holiday present. SherryM in Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 I'm concerned about your experience with Pentasa and pancreatitis. Have you used Asacol or Liada, a time released form of asacol? Do you know if they also can have pancreatis complications? Thanks much. > > > > Hello all- I just wanted to do another update about my 14 year > old son > > with Crohn's. His only med is LDN and he's also on a diet with no > > fermented foods or foods he has been sensitive to. He previously > had > > severe, fistulizing Crohn's Disease with symptoms starting when he > was > > about 6 and later diagnosed. He had long, frequent > hospitalizations. > > Doctors were ready to do a colostomy. His growth was stunted and > his > > bottom was like swiss cheese with all of the holes from fistulas > and > > fissures. Not even Remicade relieved his symptoms. > > > > He's had slow and steady weight gain and has now been growing out > of > > his clothes after years at the same size. The past few days, I > > actually forgot that he he was ever sick! Zero symptoms. Active > and > > healthy and happy. His fistulas are 90-95% healed and still > slowly > > improving. > > > > For my son, LDN and diet had to go hand in hand. One does not > work > > without the other, but together they are a miracle. > > > > -Sherry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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