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How long do you need to avoid hyrdocodone before starting LDN? I had

to take some this weekend for severe upper abdominal pain and may need

to take some in the next week for severe menstrual cramps. I would

take OTC NSAIDS but they rip up my stomach. Tylenol doesn't cut it.

I can try extra strength tylenol (w/out codene?) to see if I can get

by but nearly went to the hospital last time. I have a lot of hormone

problems.

I have an appointment with someone local on Wednesday. I'm excited!

Cami in Seattle, WA

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Because LDN blocks opioid receptors throughout the body for three or

four hours, people using medicine that is an opioid agonist, i.e.

narcotic medication — such as Ultram (tramadol), morphine, Percocet,

Duragesic patch or codeine-containing medication — should not take

LDN until such medicine is completely out of one's system. Patients

who have become dependant on daily use of narcotic-containing pain

medication may require 10 days to 2 weeks of slowly weaning off of

such drugs entirely (while first substituting full doses of non-

narcotic pain medications) before being able to begin LDN safely.

http://www.low dose naltrexone.org/index.htm#What_is_low_dose_naltrexone

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> How long do you need to avoid hyrdocodone before starting LDN? I

had

> to take some this weekend for severe upper abdominal pain and may

need

> to take some in the next week for severe menstrual cramps. I would

> take OTC NSAIDS but they rip up my stomach. Tylenol doesn't cut

it.

> I can try extra strength tylenol (w/out codene?) to see if I can get

> by but nearly went to the hospital last time. I have a lot of

hormone

> problems.

>

> I have an appointment with someone local on Wednesday. I'm excited!

>

> Cami in Seattle, WA

>

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Sometimes, very infrequently now, but especially if

I'd fall asleep and miss a day or two of LDN I'd

become achy and tired again, and having to remain

functional, would take an x during the morning and if

needed taking the last dosage no later than 6 hr

before sleep was intended. Not much experience in

this, but it has worked for me without problem, and

lately I've been better at taking the LDN and

therefore no further need to get creative. This would

not likly be beneficial to be done other than in rare

occurance. In talking with the doc from a BIG U LDN

Fibro study trial he suggested that there may not be

an absolute contraindication to narcotic meds and LDN

but would not elaborate further.

Hang in there, best try to stick to the program

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Bonnie,

I do believe all Garnet was doing was trying to help with

sharing her knowledge and research about LDN. Goodness, she’s

expressed herself about the highs and lows of LDN and her experiences, and I’ve

seen her herself get shouted off this board ie ‘who the hell are you? Get

off this forum and stop confusing everyone’. So I think you’re

underestimating Garnet here and I do believe she herself is trying to

understand/help.

I personally agree, the expectations for ‘newbies’

on this forum when reading about these miracle stories can sometimes set

expectations far too high. I don’t believe in miracles by the way

but I do believe that LDN does slow and hopefully halt down progression of

illnesses. I also believe raising your endorphins the way LDN can/does

will provide you with a sense of well being as I and most I know have

experienced. With the tremendous list of things LDN can help with, I’m

querying this right now. For example, does LDN help with CFS which I

believe you suffer from or is it CFIDS (Chronic Fatigue Immunodeficiency

Syndrom)? Is there a difference? I don’t know. Perhaps

this needs looking into.

Jayne

please help us get LDN available as front line treatment

www.ldnnow.com <- click on petition link

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tel: +44 (0) 7877 492 669

From: low dose naltrexone

[mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of bonnie.camp

Sent: 03 September 2009 09:35

low dose naltrexone

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: LDN and hydrocodone

Garnet, re your upset at my " magic

candy " reference, I believe the difference between us is that you are

focused on the trees (the individual posts - and very good at answering them,

by the way) while I am looking at the forest. First off, I did not say that

anyone had posted the magic candy words themselves. That was my way of

describing the forest overview I got after reading this board for awhile. Think,

for a minute: The majority of posts are in the categories of, " Why isn't

this working for me? " or " Why isn't this working better for me? "

or " WHy isn't this doing more? " or " Do you think this will help

(meaning make better, or cure) such and such also? "

The EXPECTATIONS of many posters, from my point of view, are far above the

reality of what LDN can be expected to do for the majority of people. Many seem

ready to leap in without caution. (How many times have board members told

newbies they should have read more about LDN before starting it?) Granted,

there are some people on the board who are quick to bring those expectations

down to an appropriate level, while still being encouraging, but I stand by my

assessment that many folks latch on to LDN expecting the " Miracle

Cures " (Magic Candy) they may have read about. In short, I was trying to

point out that desperate hope can often make for very risky behaviour.

> > > >

> > > > I know people have posted about this before but I have a

couple of

> > questions

> > > > I am on 3.0 LDN for hashi's and I also have adrenal

fatigue. I

> > finally think the LDN is doing something subtle. It has been a while

> > (since February, maybe?) since I have started it.

> > > > Anyway, recently I had some pain from a minor surgical

procedure

> > and was prescribed hydrocodone. I totally forgot that this was

> > contraindicated for LDN. The hydrocodone barely did anything at all,

> > which makes sense because LDN blocks the receptors.

> > > > I noticed something else, though. Each time I have taken a

> > hydrocodone I have felt really bad for a few days after, like my

adrenal

> > fatigue is way worse and I feel really tired (maybe it is the

hashi's?).

> > Has this ever happened to anyone? Is this all in my head or is this a

> > real thing? Do opiate pain meds make you feel bad when you are on

LDN?

> > Do they make your immune system malfunction temporarily?

> > > > Thanks!

> > > > Liz

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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