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Hey Chris. My daughter has an issue with chicken with bones. Even when she

is doing great, she refuses to eat chicken with bones. A few years ago she had

a small episode where a chicken bone got caught, really not a big incident.

For at least the next year, she felt like she was choking all the time. She

would tell me she was choking on air and couldn't breathe. I even took her to

her ped thinking it was allergy related. I didn't know it was really OCD until

later and meds actually helped her with it, except still, she will not eat

chicken with bones. Kim

In a message dated 1/28/2006 7:56:36 AM Central Standard Time,

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ate the fries but " didn't feel like " the chicken. Turned out

it was OCD re the chicken. I asked him if he was thinking he might

choke, since OCD is so illogical and he had eated those huge fries

just fine, but he said it was just a feeling something bad would

happen if he did. I told him he ought to at least try a few bites

and he could just give the rest to the dog (who always sits waiting

close by) but he didn't want to.

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Hi

Please let us know how made out at fencing. I feel like I

know you from your many posts, and it is such a shame that OCD is

making a comeback after such a long period of time when things were

" OK " (OK is such a relative term around here!)

's therapist told me that things may get bad again, but it will

NEVER be as bad as when we were at our lowest point. That's because

(like you said) we have the tools to treat it and a much greater

understanding of it all. Knowledge is power, right?

Best of luck -- we're with you!

nna.

NY

>

> Last night I picked up some chicken and those big fries for supper at

> our Wal-Mart since I was out running errands so I wouldn't have to

> cook (LOL, I find myself cooking less & less these days too!).

>

> ate the fries but " didn't feel like " the chicken. Turned out

> it was OCD re the chicken. I asked him if he was thinking he might

> choke, since OCD is so illogical and he had eated those huge fries

> just fine, but he said it was just a feeling something bad would

> happen if he did. I told him he ought to at least try a few bites

> and he could just give the rest to the dog (who always sits waiting

> close by) but he didn't want to.

>

> I didn't press that issue since he had eaten a good amount of fries.

> But I warned him how OCD could really mess with eating issues and

> could cause problems and worsen regarding eating (and a few examples

> from this group).

>

> I will say that at least " this time around " I feel much better

> handling all this than in the beginning, back in 6th grade, though

> it's not as bad with now as then. But even if it gets that

> bad (please no!!), I will still feel better through it all so far as

> handling/understanding it than back then, even if it keeps us both up

> again at night and wears me out too.

>

> Gotta go, fencing match!

>

>

>

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Hi Kim,

I know I've finally learned to really chew tacos well (hard shell).

Over the years hurrying through eating, at least 3 times I've gotten

sharp shell stuck in my throat, VERY scary feeling, won't go down....

Same with all fish, I now chew it well too. So I haven't avoided any

food, just chew slow and REALLY well, LOL!

>

>

> Hey Chris. My daughter has an issue with chicken with bones. Even

when she

> is doing great, she refuses to eat chicken with bones. A few years

[Guest guest]

Hi nna,

ended up not fencing, and per him it was due to OCD. Just

that " something bad " feeling, or so he said.

He wasn't dressed in his uniform when I went back, said he wasn't

going to fence. But I wanted to see at least some fencing so we

stuck around. They were about 30 minutes late in starting. His head

felt much hotter than earlier this a.m. But he told me when I asked

that it was OCD as the reason he didn't want to fence. At least he

hung around there though.

When we got home at 10:30, I took his temperature and it had shot up

past 101 (had been 99.8 this a.m.). OCD has usually increased some

with him during fevers, and I think this is the first " good " fever

since he's been on no medication (has had slight ones before).

I think it was middle school (he's in 11th grade now) he got strep

in...8th grade. His OCD had been pretty OK, but really shot up with

the strep/fever. Took weeks to get back to normal (what normal OCD

is anyway, LOL). So I guess it'll be a few weeks here too, just a

wait & see game!

Of course, then I'm back to - is the inositol powder beginning to

help or would it have waned anyway, LOL!

>

> Hi

>

> Please let us know how made out at fencing. I feel like I

> know you from your many posts, and it is such a shame that OCD is

> making a comeback after such a long period of time when things were

[Guest guest]

Kim, we're starting inositol. He didn't have any last night, but I'm

trying to give him some each night. Then I'll throw in the mornings.

THEN we'll start evenings....

>

> Chris

> Just wondering - are you giving him inositol again?

> kimz

[Guest guest]

@h...> wrote:

> Of course, then I'm back to - is the inositol powder beginning to

> help or would it have waned anyway, LOL!

Ooooooh---don't you just HATE that??? Always playing guessing games

and " what ifs " !

One positive for us today, had swimming class and when it was

time to leave she went to the bathroom (always a mistake at those

times) and then got that feeling that she still had to go after she

just went. Then of course I start telling her we'll be late, I waffle

between smiling and trying to cajolingly get her off the toilet to

raising my voice about being late (these are individual swim lessons,

so the instructor will hang around waiting for her to show up when she

could go home is she knows we're not coming).

Anyway, we did get there, albeit 5 minutes late, and I let her ride in

the front seat (she's only 8) for the 5 minute ride as a bribe...eh

um, I mean reward.

She went to the bathroom yet again when we got there, but luckily

didn't get stuck and got through the class. She even tried diving

which has been a big fear. I promised her to try to calm myself down

about being late and she promised to try harder next time.

I'm sure although it is OCD bugging , the root of it is the

fever/illness that just makes him feel like he can't fight it. I'll

hope for you both that once he feels better physically he'll improve

mentally!

nna.

NY

[Guest guest]

Is it urination (OCD), or IBD)?

>

> One positive for us today, had swimming class

> and when it was

> time to leave she went to the bathroom (always a

> mistake at those

> times) and then got that feeling that she still had

> to go after she

> just went.

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[Guest guest]

Urination; it only happens when she is anxious.

>

> Is it urination (OCD), or IBD)?

>

>

> >

> > One positive for us today, had swimming class

> > and when it was

> > time to leave she went to the bathroom (always a

> > mistake at those

> > times) and then got that feeling that she still had

> > to go after she

> > just went.

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Well, we've been through this many times, and the feeling goes away

once her anxiety has decreased. If she went several days with this

happening (every time she went) I would definitely see the doctor.

Another guage I use is whether or not she goes all night without using

the bathroom. She very rarely wakes up in the middle of the night

(and she is in bed for 12 hours!) and I know from my experience with

UTIs that the urge will not go away when you're sleeping. She is just

not focusing on it then.

nna.

>

> FYI: If the urge to urinate after going is a new thing, you might

> want to check with your pediatrician to make sure that she doesn't

> have an infection as this is a symptom of infection. My daugter is

> somewhat prone as are girls in general.

>

> best wishes,

> Bonnie

>

[Guest guest]

nna,

My son has had urination anxiety, but his was concern

was about finding a bathroom (like being male would

make that a problem!). He would worry about car trips,

or if places had a bathroom. He would also " time " his

bathroom trips at school because the teacher doesn't

allow kids to use the restroom during classtime.

Having the feeling of still needing to go sounded a

little medical to me, but it sounds like you've

already explored that and have figured it really is an

anxiety thing. It does sound like one from what you've

described. OCD really seems to take so many unexpected

forms. It's like we have to be detectives sometimes!

Tess

--- nna <mdonlon@...> wrote:

> Well, we've been through this many times, and the

> feeling goes away

> once her anxiety has decreased. If she went several

> days with this

> happening (every time she went) I would definitely

> see the doctor.

>

> Another guage I use is whether or not she goes all

> night without using

> the bathroom. She very rarely wakes up in the

> middle of the night

> (and she is in bed for 12 hours!) and I know from my

> experience with

> UTIs that the urge will not go away when you're

> sleeping. She is just

> not focusing on it then.

>

> nna.

>

>

>

> >

> > FYI: If the urge to urinate after going is a new

> thing, you might

> > want to check with your pediatrician to make sure

> that she doesn't

> > have an infection as this is a symptom of

> infection. My daugter is

> > somewhat prone as are girls in general.

> >

> > best wishes,

> > Bonnie

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Tess,

I am amazed each time I hear of teachers who don't allow kids to use the

bathroom during

class. I could see limiting it, but I don't know about you, if I was told I

COULDN'T go, it

would make me want to go!

Luckily 's teacher is fine with bathroom trips; I did ask her recently

whether she

went frequently at school and it sounds like most days she doesn't go all day!

Like you

said, it's a detective game. So many times I have to ask , " Is this OCD

or not?

Because we need to work on it if it's OCD. " So far (knock on wood) she has been

honest

about whether it's that or not. I wonder when she'll figure out it's best to

lie so she won't

have to do her CBT/ERP!

nna.

> > >

> > > FYI: If the urge to urinate after going is a new

> > thing, you might

> > > want to check with your pediatrician to make sure

> > that she doesn't

> > > have an infection as this is a symptom of

> > infection. My daugter is

> > > somewhat prone as are girls in general.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > > Bonnie

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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>

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I do something similar. I tell Kel, " this (whatever issue) is a problem--is

it an OCD problem or a " regular " problem? It just makes a difference how

you go about solving it, but either way, it's a problem that needs worked

on. "

That takes away the " punishment " LOL of doing ERP on an OCD thing, and give

my dd some say in what is going on and how she's going to deal with it.

Of course, either way, if nothing happens in a few days, we still have a

problem! (Or a bigger one, if it was an OCD one LOL.)

One (positive?) thing that came out of my child's treatment and therapy is

that she got to where she could/would lie about something! Not that I

applaud lying, but when OCD was bad, she *could not* lie and obsessed

frequently that she had, somehow, told a lie despite her intense effort not

to (OCD doubt.)

Kathy R. in Indiana

----- Original Message -----

From: " nna " <mdonlon@...>

> Tess,

>

> I am amazed each time I hear of teachers who don't allow kids to use the

> bathroom during

> class. I could see limiting it, but I don't know about you, if I was told

> I COULDN'T go, it

> would make me want to go!

>

> Luckily 's teacher is fine with bathroom trips; I did ask her

> recently whether she

> went frequently at school and it sounds like most days she doesn't go all

> day! Like you

> said, it's a detective game. So many times I have to ask , " Is this

> OCD or not?

> Because we need to work on it if it's OCD. " So far (knock on wood) she has

> been honest

> about whether it's that or not. I wonder when she'll figure out it's best

> to lie so she won't

> have to do her CBT/ERP!

>

> nna.

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Kathy, are you sure our daughters aren't from the same mold? lol.

I remember being at Disneyland and saying two adults and one child

and Bre piping up, " But I am 11 and it says 10 and under is child!

She won't take candy into the movie theatre because a sign says not

to. I love the fact though I can ask her about a situation and I

KNOW that is what really happened! But the price she pays in other

ways! We do have very special children and the key is learning how

to deal with the anxiety. I have hope now that Bre will be fine as

an adult because she really knows about ocd and she has the desire

to combat it.

Sandy

>

> I do something similar. I tell Kel, " this (whatever issue) is a

problem--is

> it an OCD problem or a " regular " problem? It just makes a

difference how

> you go about solving it, but either way, it's a problem that needs

worked

> on. "

>

> That takes away the " punishment " LOL of doing ERP on an OCD thing,

and give

> my dd some say in what is going on and how she's going to deal

with it.

>

> Of course, either way, if nothing happens in a few days, we still

have a

> problem! (Or a bigger one, if it was an OCD one LOL.)

>

> One (positive?) thing that came out of my child's treatment and

therapy is

> that she got to where she could/would lie about something! Not

that I

> applaud lying, but when OCD was bad, she *could not* lie and

obsessed

> frequently that she had, somehow, told a lie despite her intense

effort not

> to (OCD doubt.)

>

> Kathy R. in Indiana

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " nna " <mdonlon@f...>

>

> > Tess,

> >

> > I am amazed each time I hear of teachers who don't allow kids to

use the

> > bathroom during

> > class. I could see limiting it, but I don't know about you, if

I was told

> > I COULDN'T go, it

> > would make me want to go!

> >

> > Luckily 's teacher is fine with bathroom trips; I did ask

her

> > recently whether she

> > went frequently at school and it sounds like most days she

doesn't go all

> > day! Like you

> > said, it's a detective game. So many times I have to ask

, " Is this

> > OCD or not?

> > Because we need to work on it if it's OCD. " So far (knock on

wood) she has

> > been honest

> > about whether it's that or not. I wonder when she'll figure out

it's best

> > to lie so she won't

> > have to do her CBT/ERP!

> >

> > nna.

>

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nna,

I agree with you! I think a strict " no bathroom trips

during class time " rule is ridiculous. Fortunately, so

far it hasn't been a big problem for my son, but if it

became one I would definitely talk with his teacher.

I'm actually used to fighting this type of thing

because my older child has Crohn's Disease.

Fortunately we've really never had any problems

(except once with a subsititute teacher, but I made

sure that never happened again!).

And just like you I also question my son about things

that might be OCD. Here's a good example, I was

reading, I think it was one of Kathy's posts about

profanity. I started thinking that may be my son had a

problem with this because he gets angry at the

slightest " bad word. " (Which is very rare in our

house). Also, when we were in Vegas he seemed quite

bothered by all the nudity (not a great thing for

kids, but you'd think an 11-year-old boy might be a

little curious at least). So I asked him, " Do you

think you might be a little bothered by nudity; like

all those naked butts on the billboards and on those

flyers that we saw in Las Vegas? " and he said, " Mom,

it's not like I'm afraid naked people are going to

walk into the house! "

Well, I don't know if that argument holds water. It's

something I'm keeping my eye on.

By the way, he's also one of those " too good/ never

get in trouble " kids. And when he does get in trouble

(like twice in his life), we're sort of relieved

because that's more normal.

Tess

--- nna <mdonlon@...> wrote:

> Tess,

>

> I am amazed each time I hear of teachers who don't

> allow kids to use the bathroom during

> class. I could see limiting it, but I don't know

> about you, if I was told I COULDN'T go, it

> would make me want to go!

>

> Luckily 's teacher is fine with bathroom

> trips; I did ask her recently whether she

> went frequently at school and it sounds like most

> days she doesn't go all day! Like you

> said, it's a detective game. So many times I have

> to ask , " Is this OCD or not?

> Because we need to work on it if it's OCD. " So far

> (knock on wood) she has been honest

> about whether it's that or not. I wonder when

> she'll figure out it's best to lie so she won't

> have to do her CBT/ERP!

>

> nna.

>

>

>

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Does anyone have symptons such as - by the end of the next day , around

6:00 p.m. or so - I feel like I have been on a diet pill all day. My

gums and teeth start to hurt, like gritting my teeth, my mouth tissues

swell and my tongue swells - I feel like I am crashing. Any thoughts??

[Guest guest]

I was tested years ago -but to no avail. Since taking LDN I

noticedthese symptons around the same time each day - early evening

and on. I haven't had success on LDN yet but I think it is too early

to tell. I'm not sure if all the Vicodin was out of my system when I

started to take it. It's now been two weeks off of Vicodin. I am

waiting for the LDN to kick in. Since I am new at this I'm not sure

what I am looking for - just some relief from the pain at this

point. Does it work right away?? I'm not sure what to expect. THe

pain is really wearing me down but I am perserrrrrverrrrring.

Thanks!

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone have symptons such as - by the end of the next

> day ,

> > > around

> > > > 6:00 p.m. or so - I feel like I have been on a diet pill all

> > day. My

> > > > gums and teeth start to hurt, like gritting my teeth, my

mouth

> > > tissues

> > > > swell and my tongue swells - I feel like I am crashing. Any

> > > thoughts??

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have Fibromyalgia for years, with chronic back pain-neuropathy in

legs, Diabetes, PSAS, etc. (Listing this stuff makes me feel ---

ugh..sorry, it sounds like I am complaining)

> >

> > Does anyone have symptons such as - by the end of the next day ,

> around

> > 6:00 p.m. or so - I feel like I have been on a diet pill all

day. My

> > gums and teeth start to hurt, like gritting my teeth, my mouth

> tissues

> > swell and my tongue swells - I feel like I am crashing. Any

> thoughts??

> >

>