Guest guest Posted August 28, 1999 Report Share Posted August 28, 1999 Does anyone know how it can be that ANA is sometimes positive and other times negative? J >From: KATBERCOO@... >Reply- onelist > onelist >Subject: Re: [ ] RE: TESTING YOUR CHILDREN >Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:24:51 EDT >MIME-Version: 1.0 >From errors-165537-5682-shireen42 Sat Aug 28 11:25:13 1999 >Received: from [209.207.164.205] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id >MHotMailB991748801BCD820F3ADD1CFA4CD59420; Sat Aug 28 11:25:13 1999 >Received: (qmail 1025 invoked by alias); 28 Aug 1999 18:24:43 -0000 >Received: (qmail 976 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 18:24:41 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO imo24.mx.aol.com) (198.81.17.68) by >pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 18:24:41 -0000 >Received: from KATBERCOO@... by imo24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id >hPFGa14818 (4264) for < onelist>; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 >14:24:52 -0400 (EDT) >Message-ID: <6f819571.24f98373@...> >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 >Mailing-List: list onelist; contact > -owneronelist >Delivered-mailing list onelist >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto: -unsubscribeONElist> > >From: KATBERCOO@... > >Dear Lidawood: > >No, there isn't any specific 'auto immunity factor.' If there is a lot of >auto immune illness in your family, it is possible that your child will get >an auto immune disease, but it won't necessarily be AIH or another liver >disease. For more information about auto immune illnesses, check out >www.aarda.org > >Kathy (AIH) >Seattle area > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 1999 Report Share Posted September 10, 1999 , Mine have gone from positive to negative and now its positive again. EAch doctor I ask, including my rheumatologist have no answer for me. I really think they just dont know..I would love to hear if anyone else has been able to get an answer to that question. Jody --- susan johnson <shireen42@...> wrote: > From: " susan johnson " <shireen42@...> > > Does anyone know how it can be that ANA is sometimes > positive and other > times negative? > > J > > > >From: KATBERCOO@... > >Reply- onelist > > onelist > >Subject: Re: [ ] RE: TESTING YOUR > CHILDREN > >Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:24:51 EDT > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >From errors-165537-5682-shireen42 Sat Aug 28 > 11:25:13 1999 > >Received: from [209.207.164.205] by hotmail.com > (2.1) with ESMTP id > >MHotMailB991748801BCD820F3ADD1CFA4CD59420; Sat Aug > 28 11:25:13 1999 > >Received: (qmail 1025 invoked by alias); 28 Aug > 1999 18:24:43 -0000 > >Received: (qmail 976 invoked from network); 28 Aug > 1999 18:24:41 -0000 > >Received: from unknown (HELO imo24.mx.aol.com) > (198.81.17.68) by > >pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 18:24:41 > -0000 > >Received: from KATBERCOO@... by > imo24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id > >hPFGa14818 (4264) for < onelist>; > Sat, 28 Aug 1999 > >14:24:52 -0400 (EDT) > >Message-ID: <6f819571.24f98373@...> > >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 > >Mailing-List: list onelist; > contact > > -owneronelist > >Delivered-mailing list > onelist > >Precedence: bulk > >List-Unsubscribe: > <mailto: -unsubscribeONElist> > > > >From: KATBERCOO@... > > > >Dear Lidawood: > > > >No, there isn't any specific 'auto immunity > factor.' If there is a lot of > >auto immune illness in your family, it is possible > that your child will get > >an auto immune disease, but it won't necessarily be > AIH or another liver > >disease. For more information about auto immune > illnesses, check out > >www.aarda.org > > > >Kathy (AIH) > >Seattle area > > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 1999 Report Share Posted September 10, 1999 Hi Jody, My ANA goes back and forth too. The only answer I got from my doctor was that it reflected the active and remissive states of the autoimmune disease. Seems strange to me. I have another antibody test - anticardiolipin - that also goes back and forth. First it is negative and then positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 1999 Report Share Posted September 10, 1999 I have the anticardilipin antibody too. Actually it came out low positive. Do you know what it means? Elena --- Ceallachqn@... wrote: > From: Ceallachqn@... > > Hi Jody, > My ANA goes back and forth too. The only answer I > got from my doctor was > that it reflected the active and remissive states of > the autoimmune disease. > Seems strange to me. I have another antibody test > - anticardiolipin - that > also goes back and forth. First it is negative and > then positive. > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 1999 Report Share Posted September 10, 1999 Do any of you recall having SedRates done ever on your blood?? I would be curious to hear how high yours are. Since my liver started hurting again a few months ago my sedrate, which is usually elevated some, went from 30 to 65. Normal ranges for that is women 0-20 and men 0-15 (I think). This test does nothing but indicate how much inflammation you have in your body. I have been using it for years to validate myself when my joints would hurt more or I'd have a flare of my autoimmune disorders. Just thought I'd see what you all had in comparison. Jody --- Elena P <brit71@...> wrote: > From: Elena P <brit71@...> > > > I have the anticardilipin antibody too. Actually it > came out low positive. Do you know what it means? > Elena > --- Ceallachqn@... wrote: > > From: Ceallachqn@... > > > > Hi Jody, > > My ANA goes back and forth too. The only answer I > > got from my doctor was > > that it reflected the active and remissive states > of > > the autoimmune disease. > > Seems strange to me. I have another antibody test > > > - anticardiolipin - that > > also goes back and forth. First it is negative > and > > then positive. > > > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 1999 Report Share Posted September 10, 1999 Jody The sedrate test was the first test that indicated something was wrong with me about 4 years ago. I just gotten a job and required a physical prior to commencing employment. After the complete blood (red, White, platelets) work got back, one of them (I can't recall which) was very high. The next set of tests included the sedrate. At the time it was only 40, although higher than normal is was not as alarming. Over the last 4 years, my sedrates have increased to as high as 60 (when not feeling well) to as low as 30 when " normal " . I hope this comparison helps. , Canada Jody Compton wrote: > > From: Jody Compton <compton_61@...> > > Do any of you recall having SedRates done ever on your blood?? I would > be curious to hear how high yours are. > Since my liver started hurting again a few months ago my sedrate, which > is usually elevated some, went from 30 to 65. Normal ranges for that is > women 0-20 and men 0-15 (I think). This test does nothing but indicate > how much inflammation you have in your body. I have been using it for > years to validate myself when my joints would hurt more or I'd have a > flare of my autoimmune disorders. > Just thought I'd see what you all had in comparison. > Jody > > --- Elena P <brit71@...> wrote: > > From: Elena P <brit71@...> > > > > > > I have the anticardilipin antibody too. Actually it > > came out low positive. Do you know what it means? > > Elena > > --- Ceallachqn@... wrote: > > > From: Ceallachqn@... > > > > > > Hi Jody, > > > My ANA goes back and forth too. The only answer I > > > got from my doctor was > > > that it reflected the active and remissive states > > of > > > the autoimmune disease. > > > Seems strange to me. I have another antibody test > > > > > - anticardiolipin - that > > > also goes back and forth. First it is negative > > and > > > then positive. > > > > > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 1999 Report Share Posted September 13, 1999 Jody..Tyler has been having sedrates done for years...because of Crohns and Rhuematoid Arthritis...now adding his PSC and AIH...His are usually high...been in the 100's but since the added diagnosis of the liver diseases this past spring and being on also urso they run in the 20-50's.. He has labs drawn every other week...Hope this helps out.. Luanne Ty's mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2000 Report Share Posted July 22, 2000 Hi World: I have a positive ANA and have for a few years now. There is some test that is given to show that if you get lyme, you will be suseptible to such type problems. hugs, lea > HI, > HAs anybody been had a positive ANA test? Is this common with Lyme? > world > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2000 Report Share Posted August 2, 2000 Hi World, What is ANA? Chris In a message dated 07/21/2000 11:03:06 AM Central Daylight Time, Worldcom33@... writes: << From: Worldcom33@... (world ) Reply-to: egroups egroups HI, HAs anybody been had a positive ANA test? Is this common with Lyme? world >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2000 Report Share Posted August 3, 2000 ANA stands for antinuclear antibodies, a blood test that is checked for any autoimmune reactions in the body, ex,rheumatoid arthritis,etc.. Fran > Hi World, > > What is ANA? > > Chris > > In a message dated 07/21/2000 11:03:06 AM Central Daylight Time, > Worldcom33@... writes: > > << From: Worldcom33@... (world ) > Reply-to: egroups > egroups > > HI, > HAs anybody been had a positive ANA test? Is this common with Lyme? > world > >> > > > > Many thanks to our founder and friend, Marta McCoy, for making what it > is today. > > > Easy Reference: > Send a blank email message to: > > -Subscribeegroups - Subscribe to the list through email > -Unsubscribeegroups - Unsubscribe from the list > -Digestegroups - Switch your subscription to a digest format > -Normalegroups - Switch your subscription to normal > > Please send messages not related to Lyme disease to > -Offtopicegroups > > Archives can be accessed at lyme-aid > > Please visit the sister site at > http://clubs./clubs/lymeaid > This is the primary chat site for . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 > In a message dated 4/12/02 4:53:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > @y... writes: > > > > there will be times when we´ll need to go to > > the Buffalo area for my studies. > > I´d be very glad if someone here can tell me something about it. > > Hugs, > > Ana > > > > Ana, I can't answer any of your questions, but I'm curious; what are you > studying? > Harper Hi Harper! I studied at the Univesity to teach English as a second language.My job is to help people whose first language is not English. There are adults in need of a continuing education even living in US or wherever English is the main language who can´t get good jobs for the language as a barrier. Then I myself intend to try a master degree to become a Professor someday...who knows? I ´ve known about a liver support group in a hospital in Buffalo. maybe they can tell me something. But if someone here knows anything about it, please contact me. Hugs, Ana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 Hi, other things can affect the ANA besides having an autoimmune disease, these include Reynauds, 's, liver and thyroid disease, some viral infections, also, older adults can have higher ANA - especially women. In addition, certain medications may cause a positive antinuclear antibody test. These include: Methyldopa (Aldomet) Tumor necrosis factor (TNF) blockers, such as etanercept (Enbrel) and infliximab (Remicade) So, perhaps more testing is in order with a full evaluation of bloods, present health status, and drugs being taken..... Best Celia Hi there, I have a question for people who have researched ldn. I have several people who are taking it now at my recommendation. Two with lupus and one with sjogrens. Well one of the lupus people and one of the sjogrens people have since had blood work done that now shows an increase of their ANA and an increase in their antibodies. I am not sure what to tell them. I assumed the ldn would reduce not increase them. Has anyone experianced and increase in their disease since starting ldn? I am wondering if anyone has gotten worse and not better? I am just not sure how to explain this to them Thanks Celia, Scotland.celia@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 Yes that is true but if you hava a positive ANA as in my case and the two people I know who are having troubles and have positive antibodies there is no doubt that you have an auto immune disease like anti rnop dsna or ssa/ssb then you have the corresponding auto immune disease. > > Hi, other things can affect the ANA besides having an autoimmune disease, these include Reynauds, 's, liver and thyroid disease, some viral infections, also, older adults can have higher ANA - especially women. > In addition, certain medications may cause a positive antinuclear antibody test. These include: > > a.. Methyldopa (Aldomet) > b.. Tumor necrosis factor (TNF) blockers, such as etanercept (Enbrel) and infliximab (Remicade) > So, perhaps more testing is in order with a full evaluation of bloods, present health status, and drugs being taken..... > > Best > Celia > > > > > Hi there, > > I have a question for people who have researched ldn. I have several > people who are taking it now at my recommendation. Two with lupus and > one with sjogrens. Well one of the lupus people and one of the sjogrens > people have since had blood work done that now shows an increase of > their ANA and an increase in their antibodies. I am not sure what to > tell them. I assumed the ldn would reduce not increase them. Has anyone > experianced and increase in their disease since starting ldn? I am > wondering if anyone has gotten worse and not better? > > I am just not sure how to explain this to them > > Thanks > Celia, Scotland. > celia@... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 All other scenarios had been eliminated for me and I had a diagnosis of lupus from a rhematologist. My ANA count after starting LDN went from 1:320 to 1:1280 which is a pretty huge jump. I'm 28. I have Raynaud's, IC, IBD and SLE. I realize other things can cause the jump in ANA, but the lupus markers increased.... Cami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 Oops, and the ONLY medications I've been on are the LDN and Nystatin, and I hadn't been on any other medications since August of '07 (and this was not on the list of known medication inducers of lupus). Cami > > All other scenarios had been eliminated for me and I had a diagnosis of > lupus from a rhematologist. My ANA count after starting LDN went from > 1:320 to 1:1280 which is a pretty huge jump. I'm 28. I have > Raynaud's, IC, IBD and SLE. I realize other things can cause the jump > in ANA, but the lupus markers increased.... > > > Cami > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 > > > > All other scenarios had been eliminated for me and I had a > diagnosis of > > lupus from a rhematologist. My ANA count after starting LDN went > from > > 1:320 to 1:1280 which is a pretty huge jump. I'm 28. I have > > Raynaud's, IC, IBD and SLE. I realize other things can cause the > jump > > in ANA, but the lupus markers increased.... > > > > > > Cami > > > =========== LDN can bring latent viruses to the forefront. Seriously consider getting checked for lyme disease as this can mimic lupus and the other problems you mentioned. Do not get the standard ELISA and Western Blot tests done, they are way outdated and give too many false negative reports. Best tests are from IGeneX Labs and or a live blood analysis via a Bradford Variable Projection Microscope, see a lyme literate doctor for these tests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 > > LDN can bring latent viruses to the forefront. Seriously consider > getting checked for lyme disease as this can mimic lupus and the other > problems you mentioned. Do not get the standard ELISA and Western > Blot tests done, they are way outdated and give too many false > negative reports. Best tests are from IGeneX Labs and or a live blood > analysis via a Bradford Variable Projection Microscope, see a lyme > literate doctor for these tests. > > > This is where I get a little confused but will talk to the doctor. I live in Seattle where there is a super low risk of Lymes. I've never had a tick bite (but realize that it's possible to pass through mosquito and fleas), but have also not travelled to areas high in Lymes. Can't a positive ANA and autoimmune diseases lead to false positive tests for lymes (and visa versa)? I've heard a lot about Lymes lately... Cami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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