Re: [enzymes]not much progress

[Guest guest]

OK,  my 12 yo daughter  is not making any progress.  We have gone GF/CF, added

probiotics and zinc.  I am hoping that she is just going through some kind of

cleansing.  I see no change in her behavior.  She is  still so crabby, so

frustrating for me to be around.  Someone help...

[Guest guest]

Have you tried enzymes? Trienza from Houston's has done wonders for us...

Re: not much progress

OK, my 12 yo daughter is not making any progress. We have gone GF/CF, added

probiotics and zinc. I am hoping that she is just going through some kind of

cleansing. I see no change in her behavior. She is still so crabby, so

frustrating for me to be around. Someone help...

[Guest guest]

I've requested samples to take to our dr to get muscle tested for her.  Thanks

________________________________

From: Carla Dexter <cdexter0325@...>

Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 7:06:13 PM

Subject: Re: not much progress

Have you tried enzymes? Trienza from Houston's has done wonders for us...

Re: not much progress

OK, my 12 yo daughter is not making any progress. We have gone GF/CF, added

probiotics and zinc. I am hoping that she is just going through some kind of

cleansing. I see no change in her behavior. She is still so crabby, so

frustrating for me to be around. Someone help...

[Guest guest]

Hi, .

Is she going through puberty? You might want to get her checked out by a

naturopath to see if they can give her any supplements to help this process.

Has yeast overgrowth been eliminated? My irritability was caused by yeast.

After just 1 day of taking an antifungal supplement, I felt so much better.

Is she on any essential fatty acids? If not, you might want to try a

balanced omega 3, 6, and 9 such as Udo's. I was taking cod liver oil with

really no results (my muscle response test failed it), but the balanced

formula is doing wonders with my mood.

Have the doctor do MRT for all the supplements you might be interested in

her taking. Chances are they have Udo's 3 6 9. GSE and oil of oregano would

be good to kill yeast too.

[Guest guest]

I honestly think until enzymes are on board, a yeast protocol and chelation,

your job may not be done. Get on the autism mercury board and keep going. You

may want to do like an oat test from Great Plains and a hair test and see what's

up.

I did enzymes first, wasn't sure we had progress until we stopped for a couple

months. Boy it was down hill from there. Now with Brainchild Vit/min, did some

testing, yeast was huge, probiotics.

Keep going.

Tammy

Re: not much progress

OK, my 12 yo daughter is not making any progress. We have gone GF/CF, added

probiotics and zinc. I am hoping that she is just going through some kind of

cleansing. I see no change in her behavior. She is still so crabby, so

frustrating for me to be around. Someone help...

[Guest guest]

Yes, our naturepath gave her probiotics (2 kinds) to kill off yeast, as well as

Omegas (she's been taking Omegas for years now).  The dr special ordered a

supplement to help her liver excrete her extra-copper (she tested toxic). She

was also given St 's Wort and 5HTP (but I was already giving her the

latter).  She is going through puberty, but she's been difficult from the

beginning (birth).  I don't know about the Oil of Oregano, how do I administer

that?

Thanks for responding,

________________________________

From: McCartney <katie.mccartney@...>

Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 7:10:36 PM

Subject: Re: not much progress

Hi, .

Is she going through puberty? You might want to get her checked out by a

naturopath to see if they can give her any supplements to help this process.

Has yeast overgrowth been eliminated? My irritability was caused by yeast.

After just 1 day of taking an antifungal supplement, I felt so much better.

Is she on any essential fatty acids? If not, you might want to try a

balanced omega 3, 6, and 9 such as Udo's. I was taking cod liver oil with

really no results (my muscle response test failed it), but the balanced

formula is doing wonders with my mood.

Have the doctor do MRT for all the supplements you might be interested in

her taking. Chances are they have Udo's 3 6 9. GSE and oil of oregano would

be good to kill yeast too.

[Guest guest]

Thank you.  We did a hair test, and she is copper-toxic, thus the zinc.  Our

naturepath also special-ordered a supplement to help her liver expel the metal. 

We are doing a yeast protocol also.  Omegas and 5 HTP have been on-board for

atleast 6 months, as well as Cal/Mag.  What is an oat test? Is it for food

allergies?

________________________________

From: Tammy Kuhn <tkuhn1@...>

Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 9:27:23 PM

Subject: Re: not much progress

I honestly think until enzymes are on board, a yeast protocol and chelation,

your job may not be done. Get on the autism mercury board and keep going. You

may want to do like an oat test from Great Plains and a hair test and see what's

up.

I did enzymes first, wasn't sure we had progress until we stopped for a couple

months. Boy it was down hill from there. Now with Brainchild Vit/min, did some

testing, yeast was huge, probiotics.

Keep going.

Tammy

Re: not much progress

OK, my 12 yo daughter is not making any progress. We have gone GF/CF, added

probiotics and zinc. I am hoping that she is just going through some kind of

cleansing. I see no change in her behavior. She is still so crabby, so

frustrating for me to be around. Someone help...

[Guest guest]

If you goggle Great Plains, they offer lots of different testing.

Again, get on the mercury autism board. Chelation is huge over there. Reading

the hair test to see if mercury toxic. I think following both boards for months

and longer, you may be able to figure out how and help your child by hearing how

others use supplements to help their symptoms. It is hit and miss and just

trying different things.

Epson salt baths too, great for releasing toxins and relaxing.

Tammy

Re: not much progress

OK, my 12 yo daughter is not making any progress. We have gone GF/CF, added

probiotics and zinc. I am hoping that she is just going through some kind of

cleansing. I see no change in her behavior. She is still so crabby, so

frustrating for me to be around. Someone help...

[Guest guest]

Oil of oregano comes in a capsule form. It kills different types of yeast.

http://www.vitacost.com/Source-Naturals-Wellness-Oil-of-Oregano

I would question the probiotics - some people can't tolerate them (my son

got really emotional on Culturelle, and it wasn't the casein in there as he

doesn't have problems with it). You could try GSE and oil of oregano to kill

yeast, and a different brand of probiotics to establish the good bacteria. I

would also make sure it's not die-off symptoms. Start at the lowest dose

possible and gradually go up.

Also look at what's in the omegas. Make sure it's free of foods she can't

tolerate. And I have to mention again that some people need a balanced

formula instead of just omega 3. Did the naturopath do an MRT on the omegas?

Here's the group:

/

I bought Cutler's book and am half way done. It's really a lot of info that

I don't understand half the time, but it does help in deciding what you want

to use for chelation.

On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Tammy Kuhn <tkuhn1@...> wrote:

> If you goggle Great Plains, they offer lots of different testing.

>

> Again, get on the mercury autism board. Chelation is huge over there.

> Reading the hair test to see if mercury toxic. I think following both

> boards for months and longer, you may be able to figure out how and help

> your child by hearing how others use supplements to help their symptoms. It

> is hit and miss and just trying different things.

>

> Epson salt baths too, great for releasing toxins and relaxing.

>

> Tammy

>

> Re: not much progress

>

> OK, my 12 yo daughter is not making any progress. We have gone GF/CF,

> added probiotics and zinc. I am hoping that she is just going through some

> kind of cleansing. I see no change in her behavior. She is still so crabby,

> so frustrating for me to be around. Someone help...

>

>

[Guest guest]

Probiotics will not be enough to get rid of the yeast. You'll most

likely need some caprylic acid (a capsule) and/or grapefruit seed

extract (drops). Someone here suggested also oil of oregano, which

is very strong. You might want to wait to see if you need it. Anyway

getting yeast under control should help her disposition. Also, could

the St. 's wort be causing extra problems? My daughter couldn't

tolerate it.

Another thing, about the omegas. They ususally add vitamin E. Vit E

is almost always sourced from soy. That could be another big problem.

>

> Yes, our naturepath gave her probiotics (2 kinds) to kill off

yeast, as well as Omegas (she's been taking Omegas for years now). 

The dr special ordered a supplement to help her liver excrete her

extra-copper (she tested toxic). She was also given St 's Wort

and 5HTP (but I was already giving her the latter).  She is going

through puberty, but she's been difficult from the beginning

(birth).  I don't know about the Oil of Oregano, how do I administer

that?

>

> Thanks for responding,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: McCartney <katie.mccartney@...>

>

> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 7:10:36 PM

> Subject: Re: not much progress

>

>

> Hi, .

>

> Is she going through puberty? You might want to get her checked out

by a

> naturopath to see if they can give her any supplements to help this

process.

>

> Has yeast overgrowth been eliminated? My irritability was caused by

yeast.

> After just 1 day of taking an antifungal supplement, I felt so much

better.

>

> Is she on any essential fatty acids? If not, you might want to try a

> balanced omega 3, 6, and 9 such as Udo's. I was taking cod liver

oil with

> really no results (my muscle response test failed it), but the

balanced

> formula is doing wonders with my mood.

>

> Have the doctor do MRT for all the supplements you might be

interested in

> her taking. Chances are they have Udo's 3 6 9. GSE and oil of

oregano would

> be good to kill yeast too.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

what about garlic oil capsule? I suppose even garlics are used as yeast protoco.

parul

From: svallo44024 <frankvallo@...>

Subject: Re: not much progress

Date: Monday, 24 November, 2008, 7:10 AM

Probiotics will not be enough to get rid of the yeast. You'll most

likely need some caprylic acid (a capsule) and/or grapefruit seed

extract (drops). Someone here suggested also oil of oregano, which

is very strong. You might want to wait to see if you need it. Anyway

getting yeast under control should help her disposition. Also, could

the St. 's wort be causing extra problems? My daughter couldn't

tolerate it.

Another thing, about the omegas. They ususally add vitamin E. Vit E

is almost always sourced from soy. That could be another big problem.

>

> Yes, our naturepath gave her probiotics (2 kinds) to kill off

yeast, as well as Omegas (she's been taking Omegas for years now). 

The dr special ordered a supplement to help her liver excrete her

extra-copper (she tested toxic). She was also given St 's Wort

and 5HTP (but I was already giving her the latter).  She is going

through puberty, but she's been difficult from the beginning

(birth).  I don't know about the Oil of Oregano, how do I administer

that?

>

> Thanks for responding,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: McCartney <katie.mccartney@ ...>

>

> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 7:10:36 PM

> Subject: Re: not much progress

>

>

> Hi, .

>

> Is she going through puberty? You might want to get her checked out

by a

> naturopath to see if they can give her any supplements to help this

process.

>

> Has yeast overgrowth been eliminated? My irritability was caused by

yeast.

> After just 1 day of taking an antifungal supplement, I felt so much

better.

>

> Is she on any essential fatty acids? If not, you might want to try a

> balanced omega 3, 6, and 9 such as Udo's. I was taking cod liver

oil with

> really no results (my muscle response test failed it), but the

balanced

> formula is doing wonders with my mood.

>

> Have the doctor do MRT for all the supplements you might be

interested in

> her taking. Chances are they have Udo's 3 6 9. GSE and oil of

oregano would

> be good to kill yeast too.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Everything my kids and I take has been muscle tested, as we as SO sensitive.  I

will ask her about the Oil of Oregano.  Thanks,

________________________________

From: McCartney <katie.mccartney@...>

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 1:47:22 PM

Subject: Re: not much progress

Oil of oregano comes in a capsule form. It kills different types of yeast.

http://www.vitacost .com/Source- Naturals- Wellness- Oil-of-Oregano

I would question the probiotics - some people can't tolerate them (my son

got really emotional on Culturelle, and it wasn't the casein in there as he

doesn't have problems with it). You could try GSE and oil of oregano to kill

yeast, and a different brand of probiotics to establish the good bacteria. I

would also make sure it's not die-off symptoms. Start at the lowest dose

possible and gradually go up.

Also look at what's in the omegas. Make sure it's free of foods she can't

tolerate. And I have to mention again that some people need a balanced

formula instead of just omega 3. Did the naturopath do an MRT on the omegas?

Here's the group:

http://health. groups.. com/group/ /

I bought Cutler's book and am half way done. It's really a lot of info that

I don't understand half the time, but it does help in deciding what you want

to use for chelation.

On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Tammy Kuhn <tkuhn1charter (DOT) net> wrote:

> If you goggle Great Plains, they offer lots of different testing.

>

> Again, get on the mercury autism board. Chelation is huge over there.

> Reading the hair test to see if mercury toxic. I think following both

> boards for months and longer, you may be able to figure out how and help

> your child by hearing how others use supplements to help their symptoms. It

> is hit and miss and just trying different things.

>

> Epson salt baths too, great for releasing toxins and relaxing.

>

> Tammy

>

> Re: not much progress

>

> OK, my 12 yo daughter is not making any progress. We have gone GF/CF,

> added probiotics and zinc. I am hoping that she is just going through some

> kind of cleansing. I see no change in her behavior. She is still so crabby,

> so frustrating for me to be around. Someone help...

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, .  Everything my kids and I take has been muscle tested, as we

are so sensitive.  The St 's Wort was recommended due to the way she tested.

________________________________

From: svallo44024 <frankvallo@...>

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 5:40:48 PM

Subject: Re: not much progress

Probiotics will not be enough to get rid of the yeast. You'll most

likely need some caprylic acid (a capsule) and/or grapefruit seed

extract (drops). Someone here suggested also oil of oregano, which

is very strong. You might want to wait to see if you need it. Anyway

getting yeast under control should help her disposition. Also, could

the St. 's wort be causing extra problems? My daughter couldn't

tolerate it.

Another thing, about the omegas. They ususally add vitamin E. Vit E

is almost always sourced from soy. That could be another big problem.

>

> Yes, our naturepath gave her probiotics (2 kinds) to kill off

yeast, as well as Omegas (she's been taking Omegas for years now). 

The dr special ordered a supplement to help her liver excrete her

extra-copper (she tested toxic). She was also given St 's Wort

and 5HTP (but I was already giving her the latter).  She is going

through puberty, but she's been difficult from the beginning

(birth).  I don't know about the Oil of Oregano, how do I administer

that?

>

> Thanks for responding,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: McCartney <katie.mccartney@ ...>

>

> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 7:10:36 PM

> Subject: Re: not much progress

>

>

> Hi, .

>

> Is she going through puberty? You might want to get her checked out

by a

> naturopath to see if they can give her any supplements to help this

process.

>

> Has yeast overgrowth been eliminated? My irritability was caused by

yeast.

> After just 1 day of taking an antifungal supplement, I felt so much

better.

>

> Is she on any essential fatty acids? If not, you might want to try a

> balanced omega 3, 6, and 9 such as Udo's. I was taking cod liver

oil with

> really no results (my muscle response test failed it), but the

balanced

> formula is doing wonders with my mood.

>

> Have the doctor do MRT for all the supplements you might be

interested in

> her taking. Chances are they have Udo's 3 6 9. GSE and oil of

oregano would

> be good to kill yeast too.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I'm not so sure about the muscle test anymore... I noticed yesterday that I

had a different type of headache all day, and I was a bit achy, and it

seemed to get worse after I took my evening dose of Udo's 3 6 9 EFA blend. I

was also a bit irritable yesterday, not sure if it was because if I ate sort

of bad in the morning...

I didn't take the EFA today, and no headache or body ache yet. I'll have to

see if it's the weather or the EFA. MRT showed I could take 3 a day, and I

only took 2. So I'm wondering if MRT is 100% reliable... I'll let you know

what I find out by experimenting.

[Guest guest]

hmmm... that would be a real bummer...

________________________________

From: McCartney <katie.mccartney@...>

Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 6:46:02 AM

Subject: Re: not much progress

,

I'm not so sure about the muscle test anymore... I noticed yesterday that I

had a different type of headache all day, and I was a bit achy, and it

seemed to get worse after I took my evening dose of Udo's 3 6 9 EFA blend. I

was also a bit irritable yesterday, not sure if it was because if I ate sort

of bad in the morning...

I didn't take the EFA today, and no headache or body ache yet. I'll have to

see if it's the weather or the EFA. MRT showed I could take 3 a day, and I

only took 2. So I'm wondering if MRT is 100% reliable... I'll let you know

what I find out by experimenting.