Re: reaction to green beans?!

[Guest guest]

You are not alone.. I react to any of those vegis like green beans with

even a little bit of sals.. Only the zero sals for me..

nanci

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> My autistic son seems to be having what generally looks like a phenol reaction

(hyper, giggly, agressive) to green beans, but as far as I know, they're low in

phenols. What gives? Any ideas?

> I'm going to throw him in the tub with some epsom salts and see if I can't

calm him down! Sheesh.

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[Guest guest]

> My autistic son seems to be having what generally looks like a phenol reaction

(hyper, giggly, agressive) to green beans, but as far as I know, they're low in

phenols. What gives? Any ideas?

My son did not tolerate anything orange or green [and several reds and yellows]

until I corrected his body's inability to convert carotenes.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I have read a little about carotenes in this list serve, but there is woefully

little info on the web. My son has a problems with apples! Just apples, as far

as we can tell. Turns his poop a nasty yellow/green and the texture is really

gross. I suspect the apples irritate his gut and then all kinds of foods bother

him. I just read that apples contain a lot of carotenes, and also B complex

vitamins including B6 and folic acid. We are avoiding B vitamins right now

because of yeast. Could the apples be feeding the yeast?

Also, I read that the pectin is a good detox material. I have to wonder about

that too. Since we took apples away, months ago, things have been better than

ever with more attention, more talking...and he had 3 apples last week right

before an intestinal set-back. I hate to deny him a healthy food (and his

favorite!) for nothing. Anyone have thoughts?

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

You can simply be allergic to apples. My son was and with age, seems to

tolerate one now and again just fine. Just because healthy, doesn't mean much.

Look at strawberries or bananas.

I would also look into the Feingold diet and they silicate issue.

Tammy

Re: reaction to green beans?!

I have read a little about carotenes in this list serve, but there is woefully

little info on the web. My son has a problems with apples! Just apples, as far

as we can tell. Turns his poop a nasty yellow/green and the texture is really

gross. I suspect the apples irritate his gut and then all kinds of foods bother

him. I just read that apples contain a lot of carotenes, and also B complex

vitamins including B6 and folic acid. We are avoiding B vitamins right now

because of yeast. Could the apples be feeding the yeast?

Also, I read that the pectin is a good detox material. I have to wonder about

that too. Since we took apples away, months ago, things have been better than

ever with more attention, more talking...and he had 3 apples last week right

before an intestinal set-back. I hate to deny him a healthy food (and his

favorite!) for nothing. Anyone have thoughts?

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Apples, especially minus the peel posed significant digestive issues for both

our son and daughter. No-Fenol by Houston Enzymes, making eating the peel a part

of the process and addressing the sugar processing issues and byproduct issues

cleared up the situation for both children.

Overgrowth of bacteria and or yeast can make eating even a regular piece of

fruit problematic.

For our daughter it was the aluminum in her DTaP shot that disrupted her sugar

processing. Europeans discovered this issue as mercury was removed from their

vaccines first and they're a bit ahead of us on this curve.

We addressed the aluminum for our daughter with a chelating agent. It was all

natural and wonderfully effective and gentle.

At the same time we addressed the bacteria and yeast overgrowth that had come to

exist in her gut. We used 7-10 drops of GSE twice daily with meals and followed

at bedtime with two Culturelle ( a probiotic). We used Epsom salt baths as we

saw behavior issues.

We went too far though and she had vaginal itching and so we used Oil of Oregano

for a brief two weeks at 2-4 drops again at each meal. Vaginal itching went away

as did food issues.

We continue with Culturelle, one capsule at bedtime, and limit processed sugars.

All fruit is okay again and her bowels are leveled out.

The No Fenol and other enzymes were crucial at mealtimes while we were working

on these other issues. Plus they helped her handle the GSE and then OoO without

gas or other discomfort.

Re: reaction to green beans?!

I have read a little about carotenes in this list serve, but there is woefully

little info on the web. My son has a problems with apples! Just apples, as far

as we can tell. Turns his poop a nasty yellow/green and the texture is really

gross. I suspect the apples irritate his gut and then all kinds of foods bother

him. I just read that apples contain a lot of carotenes, and also B complex

vitamins including B6 and folic acid. We are avoiding B vitamins right now

because of yeast. Could the apples be feeding the yeast?

Also, I read that the pectin is a good detox material. I have to wonder about

that too. Since we took apples away, months ago, things have been better than

ever with more attention, more talking...and he had 3 apples last week right

before an intestinal set-back. I hate to deny him a healthy food (and his

favorite!) for nothing. Anyone have thoughts?

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

> I have read a little about carotenes in this list serve, but there is woefully

little info on the web.

It did take a lot of researching to find the info I needed to correct this

problem for my son.

>>My son has a problems with apples! Just apples, as far as we can tell. Turns

his poop a nasty yellow/green and the texture is really gross. I suspect the

apples irritate his gut and then all kinds of foods bother him. I just read that

apples contain a lot of carotenes, and also B complex vitamins including B6 and

folic acid. We are avoiding B vitamins right now because of yeast. Could the

apples be feeding the yeast?

Yes, apples increase yeast. They are also high phenol.

Does he have this problem with pears? Apples and pears are from the same food

family.

Dana

[Guest guest]

What chelating agent did you use?

From: ammattson <ammattson@...>

Subject: Re: Re: reaction to green beans?!

Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 9:24 PM

 

Apples, especially minus the peel posed significant digestive issues for both

our son and daughter. No-Fenol by Houston Enzymes, making eating the peel a part

of the process and addressing the sugar processing issues and byproduct issues

cleared up the situation for both children.

Overgrowth of bacteria and or yeast can make eating even a regular piece of

fruit problematic.

For our daughter it was the aluminum in her DTaP shot that disrupted her sugar

processing. Europeans discovered this issue as mercury was removed from their

vaccines first and they're a bit ahead of us on this curve.

We addressed the aluminum for our daughter with a chelating agent. It was all

natural and wonderfully effective and gentle.

At the same time we addressed the bacteria and yeast overgrowth that had come to

exist in her gut. We used 7-10 drops of GSE twice daily with meals and followed

at bedtime with two Culturelle ( a probiotic). We used Epsom salt baths as we

saw behavior issues.

We went too far though and she had vaginal itching and so we used Oil of Oregano

for a brief two weeks at 2-4 drops again at each meal. Vaginal itching went away

as did food issues.

We continue with Culturelle, one capsule at bedtime, and limit processed sugars.

All fruit is okay again and her bowels are leveled out.

The No Fenol and other enzymes were crucial at mealtimes while we were working

on these other issues. Plus they helped her handle the GSE and then OoO without

gas or other discomfort.

Re: reaction to green beans?!

I have read a little about carotenes in this list serve, but there is woefully

little info on the web. My son has a problems with apples! Just apples, as far

as we can tell. Turns his poop a nasty yellow/green and the texture is really

gross. I suspect the apples irritate his gut and then all kinds of foods bother

him. I just read that apples contain a lot of carotenes, and also B complex

vitamins including B6 and folic acid. We are avoiding B vitamins right now

because of yeast. Could the apples be feeding the yeast?

Also, I read that the pectin is a good detox material. I have to wonder about

that too. Since we took apples away, months ago, things have been better than

ever with more attention, more talking...and he had 3 apples last week right

before an intestinal set-back. I hate to deny him a healthy food (and his

favorite!) for nothing. Anyone have thoughts?

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Yes, apples can definitely feed yeast and also have natural food chemcials

called phenols and salicylates. Alot of these kids have significant

sensitivities to these natural occuring food chemcials.

Debra

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> I have read a little about carotenes in this list serve, but there is woefully

little info on the web. My son has a problems with apples! Just apples, as far

as we can tell. Turns his poop a nasty yellow/green and the texture is really

gross. I suspect the apples irritate his gut and then all kinds of foods bother

him. I just read that apples contain a lot of carotenes, and also B complex

vitamins including B6 and folic acid. We are avoiding B vitamins right now

because of yeast. Could the apples be feeding the yeast?

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> Also, I read that the pectin is a good detox material. I have to wonder about

that too. Since we took apples away, months ago, things have been better than

ever with more attention, more talking...and he had 3 apples last week right

before an intestinal set-back. I hate to deny him a healthy food (and his

favorite!) for nothing. Anyone have thoughts?

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[Guest guest]

Waiora. A doc needs to monitor, to make sure other minerals and metals don't go

too low.

Re: reaction to green beans?!

I have read a little about carotenes in this list serve, but there is woefully

little info on the web. My son has a problems with apples! Just apples, as far

as we can tell. Turns his poop a nasty yellow/green and the texture is really

gross. I suspect the apples irritate his gut and then all kinds of foods bother

him. I just read that apples contain a lot of carotenes, and also B complex

vitamins including B6 and folic acid. We are avoiding B vitamins right now

because of yeast. Could the apples be feeding the yeast?

Also, I read that the pectin is a good detox material. I have to wonder about

that too. Since we took apples away, months ago, things have been better than

ever with more attention, more talking...and he had 3 apples last week right

before an intestinal set-back. I hate to deny him a healthy food (and his

favorite!) for nothing. Anyone have thoughts?

Thanks!