Re: Sensory regression!!! Yeast? Hormones? Phenyols? Help!!

November 2, 2009

Been there done that many many times.I hate to say it,but I learned long ago

just to endure this stuff until it goes away.How long? Sometimes weeks,sometimes

months,but it does go away.It does eventually come back though.You just gotta

live with it.Usually I had so many other stuff going on at the same time,school

work was the least of my concernrs.Never really did that much in the whole

twelve years.

From: Alisa Ackerman <clarkalisa@...>

Subject: Sensory regression!!! Yeast? Hormones? Phenyols? Help!!

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Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 11:57 AM

Hi all,

I am trying to figure why my son, who was doing so great in many aspects due to

all the biomedical help he's had, has now for the past 3 months been seriously

regressing w/ regard to sensory issues.

He's always had a lot of sensory issues (noise, scratchy fabrics, over sensitive

to pain, etc.), but now after making much progress in this area, he suddenly has

regressed!

Now he cannot stand even the seams in his shirts. To the point that he gets so

distracted that he just cannot participate in school sometimes! ALL his

clothes--no matter how soft, etc. drive him nuts. He says his pants are too

heavy, his shoes are too hard. His hair on the pillow at night bothers him....

etc. etc. etc.!! Also noise is very bothersome to him right now also.

Anyhow, while of course we can try to help him from a behavioral standpoint, I

am looking for any insight at all from a biomedical standpoint as to why this is

suddenly happening??? ?!

Could it be hormonal? (he is five just turning 6, just discovering his penis in

a big way!) Could it be the anti-viral protocol we are now doing (very high

doses of elderberry, monolaurin, silver collidal, policosonol, moducare, etc.)

There are a lot of phenyols in some of the anti-viral herbs and he does react to

those but we need to do this protocol. Could the sensory overload be related to

phenoyls?

Is this simply a yeast symptom (I've not heard much about skin sensitivity

specifically before??)

Please, any help here at all is greatly appreciated. It's terrible to see him

suffering so much and it is affecting every aspect of his life, social, school,

everything!

BTW, last question here: has anyone had success with using the HANDLE face

tapping technique for sensory issues? (see here for more info:

http://www.wellsphe re.com/autism- autism-spectrum- article/little-

frog-s-handle- program/566334P)

Many thanks in advance!

Alisa

November 3, 2009

Alot of those antivirals are high salicylates { phenol [ Yes those can

lead to sensory overload symptoms , brain fog, etc.. etc.. You wont be

able to boost the system to fight off the viruses etc if his body is

being poisoned with thess salicylates or any other food he does not have the

enzymes for.

nanci

>

> Hi all,

>

> I am trying to figure why my son, who was doing so great in many aspects due

to all the biomedical help he's had, has now for the past 3 months been

seriously regressing w/ regard to sensory issues.

>

> He's always had a lot of sensory issues (noise, scratchy fabrics, over

sensitive to pain, etc.), but now after making much progress in this area, he

suddenly has regressed!

>

> Now he cannot stand even the seams in his shirts. To the point that he gets so

distracted that he just cannot participate in school sometimes! ALL his

clothes--no matter how soft, etc. drive him nuts. He says his pants are too

heavy, his shoes are too hard. His hair on the pillow at night bothers him....

etc. etc. etc.!! Also noise is very bothersome to him right now also.

>

> Anyhow, while of course we can try to help him from a behavioral standpoint, I

am looking for any insight at all from a biomedical standpoint as to why this is

suddenly happening????!

>

> Could it be hormonal? (he is five just turning 6, just discovering his penis

in a big way!) Could it be the anti-viral protocol we are now doing (very high

doses of elderberry, monolaurin, silver collidal, policosonol, moducare, etc.)

There are a lot of phenyols in some of the anti-viral herbs and he does react to

those but we need to do this protocol. Could the sensory overload be related to

phenoyls?

>

> Is this simply a yeast symptom (I've not heard much about skin sensitivity

specifically before??)

>

> Please, any help here at all is greatly appreciated. It's terrible to see him

suffering so much and it is affecting every aspect of his life, social, school,

everything!

>

> BTW, last question here: has anyone had success with using the HANDLE face

tapping technique for sensory issues? (see here for more info:

http://www.wellsphere.com/autism-autism-spectrum-article/little-frog-s-handle-pr\

ogram/566334P)

>

> Many thanks in advance!

> Alisa

>

November 4, 2009

You need to increase the yeast protocol BIG TIME. Killing viruses usually cause

yeast flares.

>

> Hi all,

>

> I am trying to figure why my son, who was doing so great in many aspects due

to all the biomedical help he's had, has now for the past 3 months been

seriously regressing w/ regard to sensory issues.

>

> He's always had a lot of sensory issues (noise, scratchy fabrics, over

sensitive to pain, etc.), but now after making much progress in this area, he

suddenly has regressed!

>

> Now he cannot stand even the seams in his shirts. To the point that he gets so

distracted that he just cannot participate in school sometimes! ALL his

clothes--no matter how soft, etc. drive him nuts. He says his pants are too

heavy, his shoes are too hard. His hair on the pillow at night bothers him....

etc. etc. etc.!! Also noise is very bothersome to him right now also.

>

> Anyhow, while of course we can try to help him from a behavioral standpoint, I

am looking for any insight at all from a biomedical standpoint as to why this is

suddenly happening????!

>

> Could it be hormonal? (he is five just turning 6, just discovering his penis

in a big way!) Could it be the anti-viral protocol we are now doing (very high

doses of elderberry, monolaurin, silver collidal, policosonol, moducare, etc.)

There are a lot of phenyols in some of the anti-viral herbs and he does react to

those but we need to do this protocol. Could the sensory overload be related to

phenoyls?

>

> Is this simply a yeast symptom (I've not heard much about skin sensitivity

specifically before??)

>

> Please, any help here at all is greatly appreciated. It's terrible to see him

suffering so much and it is affecting every aspect of his life, social, school,

everything!

>

> BTW, last question here: has anyone had success with using the HANDLE face

tapping technique for sensory issues? (see here for more info:

http://www.wellsphere.com/autism-autism-spectrum-article/little-frog-s-handle-pr\

ogram/566334P)

>

> Many thanks in advance!

> Alisa

>

November 4, 2009

,

I don¹t have energy any more it is finished that is why. When I get all the

programs in place then I will see what to do.It is the energy which I am

lucking at this time that is why I want to limit the travel time.

We will talk.

Maedot

On 11/4/09 8:22 PM, " " <ckrupa3672@...> wrote:

>

> You need to increase the yeast protocol BIG TIME. Killing viruses usually

> cause yeast flares.

>

>> >

>> > Hi all,

>> >

>> > I am trying to figure why my son, who was doing so great in many aspects

>> due to all the biomedical help he's had, has now for the past 3 months been

>> seriously regressing w/ regard to sensory issues.

>> >

>> > He's always had a lot of sensory issues (noise, scratchy fabrics, over

>> sensitive to pain, etc.), but now after making much progress in this area, he

>> suddenly has regressed!

>> >

>> > Now he cannot stand even the seams in his shirts. To the point that he gets

>> so distracted that he just cannot participate in school sometimes! ALL his

>> clothes--no matter how soft, etc. drive him nuts. He says his pants are too

>> heavy, his shoes are too hard. His hair on the pillow at night bothers

>> him.... etc. etc. etc.!! Also noise is very bothersome to him right now also.

>> >

>> > Anyhow, while of course we can try to help him from a behavioral

>> standpoint, I am looking for any insight at all from a biomedical standpoint

>> as to why this is suddenly happening????!

>> >

>> > Could it be hormonal? (he is five just turning 6, just discovering his

>> penis in a big way!) Could it be the anti-viral protocol we are now doing

>> (very high doses of elderberry, monolaurin, silver collidal, policosonol,

>> moducare, etc.) There are a lot of phenyols in some of the anti-viral herbs

>> and he does react to those but we need to do this protocol. Could the sensory

>> overload be related to phenoyls?

>> >

>> > Is this simply a yeast symptom (I've not heard much about skin sensitivity

>> specifically before??)

>> >

>> > Please, any help here at all is greatly appreciated. It's terrible to see

>> him suffering so much and it is affecting every aspect of his life, social,

>> school, everything!

>> >

>> > BTW, last question here: has anyone had success with using the HANDLE face

>> tapping technique for sensory issues? (see here for more info:

>> http://www.wellsphere.com/autism-autism-spectrum-article/little-frog-s-handle

>> -program/566334P)

>> >

>> > Many thanks in advance!

>> > Alisa

>> >

>

November 5, 2009

> I am trying to figure why my son, who was doing so great in many aspects due

to all the biomedical help he's had, has now for the past 3 months been

seriously regressing w/ regard to sensory issues.

At my house, most sensory issues were caused by yeast overgrowth.

>>Also noise is very bothersome to him right now also.

This was definitely yeast at my house.

> Could it be hormonal? (he is five just turning 6, just discovering his penis

in a big way!)

My son was obsessed with his penis and played with it all day long, as well as

humped furniture, when he was yeasty.

>>Could it be the anti-viral protocol we are now doing (very high doses of

elderberry, monolaurin, silver collidal, policosonol, moducare, etc.)

Viral die off tends to increase yeast. Yes, definitely could be this.

Dana

November 11, 2009

This could definitely be yeast. The combination of sensory stuff, especially

about clothes, and interest in his penis both point to yeast IMO. The other

thing that came to mind is the elderberry is EXTREMELY high in histamine, which

sets the volume control in the brain for sensory input and also can cause a lot

of playing with the genitals (common aphrodisiacs like oysters, red wine, and

chocolate are all very high in histamine). If I gave my kids elderberry I'd get

all the symptoms you are describing. Yeast can also cause or exacerbate

histamine processing problems. I would drop the elderberry and up the yeast

protocol. Epsom salt baths help with both issues. This also relates to

phenols, as phenols can cause histamine release and yeast disables the body's

ability to process phenols.

HTH, Sierra

>

> Hi all,

>

> I am trying to figure why my son, who was doing so great in many aspects due

to all the biomedical help he's had, has now for the past 3 months been

seriously regressing w/ regard to sensory issues.

>

> He's always had a lot of sensory issues (noise, scratchy fabrics, over

sensitive to pain, etc.), but now after making much progress in this area, he

suddenly has regressed!

>

> Now he cannot stand even the seams in his shirts. To the point that he gets so

distracted that he just cannot participate in school sometimes! ALL his

clothes--no matter how soft, etc. drive him nuts. He says his pants are too

heavy, his shoes are too hard. His hair on the pillow at night bothers him....

etc. etc. etc.!! Also noise is very bothersome to him right now also.

>

> Anyhow, while of course we can try to help him from a behavioral standpoint, I

am looking for any insight at all from a biomedical standpoint as to why this is

suddenly happening????!

>

> Could it be hormonal? (he is five just turning 6, just discovering his penis

in a big way!) Could it be the anti-viral protocol we are now doing (very high

doses of elderberry, monolaurin, silver collidal, policosonol, moducare, etc.)

There are a lot of phenyols in some of the anti-viral herbs and he does react to

those but we need to do this protocol. Could the sensory overload be related to

phenoyls?

>

> Is this simply a yeast symptom (I've not heard much about skin sensitivity

specifically before??)

>

> Please, any help here at all is greatly appreciated. It's terrible to see him

suffering so much and it is affecting every aspect of his life, social, school,

everything!

>

> BTW, last question here: has anyone had success with using the HANDLE face

tapping technique for sensory issues? (see here for more info:

http://www.wellsphere.com/autism-autism-spectrum-article/little-frog-s-handle-pr\

ogram/566334P)

>

> Many thanks in advance!

> Alisa

>

November 12, 2009

Thank you Sierra (and all of you who've sent such great responses!)

I am going to drop the Elderberry. I do want to continue some kind of anti-viral

protocol however (alongside a much increased yeast protocol). We think he has

residual viral issues from the nasal Flu mist live virus which caused his

regression... Also, he's a kid who responds to viral infections (like the flu

which is floating around alot here now) with seizures. So, anti-viral seems

quite important.

BUT what can I use to do this? Do you think Monolaurin is OK from this

standpoint?

He had a terrible reaction (phenolic) to OLE...

And the question remains for yeast what's best from a phenol/oxalate standpoint?

Our DAN told me to cut the OLE, GSE, Oregon Grape and Quercetin and NOT to

increase his biotin (which we give a lot of)

Now I must admit, I am a bit stumped. I am clear that there is yeast however.

His poop this morning gave more evidence (I will spare you all the details, but

it is classic yeast poop---after 2 days of constipation???)

Thanks for any help with this!!!!

Alisa

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I am trying to figure why my son, who was doing so great in many aspects due

to all the biomedical help he's had, has now for the past 3 months been

seriously regressing w/ regard to sensory issues.

> >

> > He's always had a lot of sensory issues (noise, scratchy fabrics, over

sensitive to pain, etc.), but now after making much progress in this area, he

suddenly has regressed!

> >

> > Now he cannot stand even the seams in his shirts. To the point that he gets

so distracted that he just cannot participate in school sometimes! ALL his

clothes--no matter how soft, etc. drive him nuts. He says his pants are too

heavy, his shoes are too hard. His hair on the pillow at night bothers him....

etc. etc. etc.!! Also noise is very bothersome to him right now also.

> >

> > Anyhow, while of course we can try to help him from a behavioral standpoint,

I am looking for any insight at all from a biomedical standpoint as to why this

is suddenly happening????!

> >

> > Could it be hormonal? (he is five just turning 6, just discovering his penis

in a big way!) Could it be the anti-viral protocol we are now doing (very high

doses of elderberry, monolaurin, silver collidal, policosonol, moducare, etc.)

There are a lot of phenyols in some of the anti-viral herbs and he does react to

those but we need to do this protocol. Could the sensory overload be related to

phenoyls?

> >

> > Is this simply a yeast symptom (I've not heard much about skin sensitivity

specifically before??)

> >

> > Please, any help here at all is greatly appreciated. It's terrible to see

him suffering so much and it is affecting every aspect of his life, social,

school, everything!

> >

> > BTW, last question here: has anyone had success with using the HANDLE face

tapping technique for sensory issues? (see here for more info:

http://www.wellsphere.com/autism-autism-spectrum-article/little-frog-s-handle-pr\

ogram/566334P)

> >

> > Many thanks in advance!

> > Alisa

> >

>

November 13, 2009

Alisa- we've been doing antivirals for almost a year and it has been miraculous

for my son. I hope it works for yours! If you're looking for low

phenol/oxalate ideas, you could try ViraStop, Valtrex (prescription, which you

may have to compound yourself, I can tell you how), colostrum (we use the

Kirkman one that is casein-free), transfer factor, or Lauricidin if he can

swallow small pellets. Lauricidin is supposed to be much more concentrated than

Monolaurin, but that should help too. I'm sure I'm forgetting a lot...

For yeast, how much probiotic are you giving? We have had great success with

ThreeLac, which hasn't caused all the horrors of die-off that we usually get,

just improvement. Colostrum is also good for yeast. Are you avoiding all sugar

and yeast-feeding food? We got huge die-off with lots of different antifungals,

but there was still an amazing amount left to die when we started SCD. I highly

recommend SCD (we do the GAPS version) to heal the immune system. My family has

always been sick all fall and winter, and this year everyone around us is sick

and we aren't! I'm sure it's from the diet.

-Sierra

http://grainfreefoodie.blogspot.com/

>

> Thank you Sierra (and all of you who've sent such great responses!)

>

> I am going to drop the Elderberry. I do want to continue some kind of

anti-viral protocol however (alongside a much increased yeast protocol). We

think he has residual viral issues from the nasal Flu mist live virus which

caused his regression... Also, he's a kid who responds to viral infections (like

the flu which is floating around alot here now) with seizures. So, anti-viral

seems quite important.

>

> BUT what can I use to do this? Do you think Monolaurin is OK from this

standpoint?

>

> He had a terrible reaction (phenolic) to OLE...

>

> And the question remains for yeast what's best from a phenol/oxalate

standpoint? Our DAN told me to cut the OLE, GSE, Oregon Grape and Quercetin and

NOT to increase his biotin (which we give a lot of)

>

> Now I must admit, I am a bit stumped. I am clear that there is yeast however.

His poop this morning gave more evidence (I will spare you all the details, but

it is classic yeast poop---after 2 days of constipation???)

>

> Thanks for any help with this!!!!

> Alisa

November 14, 2009

> I am going to drop the Elderberry. I do want to continue some kind of

anti-viral protocol however (alongside a much increased yeast protocol). We

think he has residual viral issues from the nasal Flu mist live virus which

caused his regression... Also, he's a kid who responds to viral infections (like

the flu which is floating around alot here now) with seizures. So, anti-viral

seems quite important.

> BUT what can I use to do this? Do you think Monolaurin is OK from this

standpoint?

I have used Lauricidin here. It cause soooooooooo much yeast that I eventually

had to stop using it.

> And the question remains for yeast what's best from a phenol/oxalate

standpoint? Our DAN told me to cut the OLE, GSE, Oregon Grape and Quercetin and

NOT to increase his biotin (which we give a lot of)

Personally, I would ignore the DAN and increase the biotin. You can try

Candidase or Candex also.

> Now I must admit, I am a bit stumped. I am clear that there is yeast however.

His poop this morning gave more evidence (I will spare you all the details, but

it is classic yeast poop---after 2 days of constipation???)

Yeast tends to be constipating for most people.

Dana

November 14, 2009

Sierra,

Thanks again for all of this amazing help! OK, this all makes sense. I am going

to look into ViraStop or Valtrex. Would you recommend doing both at once

(starting w/ gradual dosages of course)?

How do you compound Valtrex yourself?

For yeast we are doing Klaire probiotics--Therbiotic Complete and Therbiotic

Detox along with Culturelle and Sacchromecis Boulardi (sp?) Is ThreeLac better

than these products w/ less die off?

We are also doing Curcumin, GSE & Biotin.

He does take Colostrum (Laktoferrin) But for the yeast something in our protocol

is definitely missing and I just don't think our DAN is getting it! I think

based on the answers I am getting here that I should put OLE back in (for viral

and yeast issues!) even if he did have phenol reactions to it. Because it can

help get to the bottom of the phenol issue, right?

Our diet is very restrictive and we allow very little sugar, but I think we need

to bite the bullet and try the SCD. I am going to look into it! I think we can

do it--all except the very special occasion treats which are rare. Will this

ruin it? "

I know I will sound lame, but I HAVE to allow some rare, special occasion sugar.

He will be just devastated if he cannot have a cupcake (GF/CF/SF, low sugar,

etc.) like the other kids.

Now these events are rare. (But such a big deal to him and also other kids can

be mean about it, etc. so I feel like on a social-emotional level he truly needs

the treat)

But because they are rare and because he has almost no tolerance for sugar and

it really affects him even more. Is there anything I can do following a treat

(activated charcoal perhaps?)

Will this make the diet not worth doing?

Thanks for your thoughts on any of these questions!!!!!!

HTH,

Alisa

> >

> > Thank you Sierra (and all of you who've sent such great responses!)

> >

> > I am going to drop the Elderberry. I do want to continue some kind of

anti-viral protocol however (alongside a much increased yeast protocol). We

think he has residual viral issues from the nasal Flu mist live virus which

caused his regression... Also, he's a kid who responds to viral infections (like

the flu which is floating around alot here now) with seizures. So, anti-viral

seems quite important.

> >

> > BUT what can I use to do this? Do you think Monolaurin is OK from this

standpoint?

> >

> > He had a terrible reaction (phenolic) to OLE...

> >

> > And the question remains for yeast what's best from a phenol/oxalate

standpoint? Our DAN told me to cut the OLE, GSE, Oregon Grape and Quercetin and

NOT to increase his biotin (which we give a lot of)

> >

> > Now I must admit, I am a bit stumped. I am clear that there is yeast

however. His poop this morning gave more evidence (I will spare you all the

details, but it is classic yeast poop---after 2 days of constipation???)

> >

> > Thanks for any help with this!!!!

> > Alisa

>

November 14, 2009

Oh yes and we also do 1 cap of Candisol a day for yeast. But I think I need to

increase to 2X day...

> > >

> > > Thank you Sierra (and all of you who've sent such great responses!)

> > >

> > > I am going to drop the Elderberry. I do want to continue some kind of

anti-viral protocol however (alongside a much increased yeast protocol). We

think he has residual viral issues from the nasal Flu mist live virus which

caused his regression... Also, he's a kid who responds to viral infections (like

the flu which is floating around alot here now) with seizures. So, anti-viral

seems quite important.

> > >

> > > BUT what can I use to do this? Do you think Monolaurin is OK from this

standpoint?

> > >

> > > He had a terrible reaction (phenolic) to OLE...

> > >

> > > And the question remains for yeast what's best from a phenol/oxalate

standpoint? Our DAN told me to cut the OLE, GSE, Oregon Grape and Quercetin and

NOT to increase his biotin (which we give a lot of)

> > >

> > > Now I must admit, I am a bit stumped. I am clear that there is yeast

however. His poop this morning gave more evidence (I will spare you all the

details, but it is classic yeast poop---after 2 days of constipation???)

> > >

> > > Thanks for any help with this!!!!

> > > Alisa

> >

>

November 15, 2009

Dana~~~How do you counteract the constipation from yeast? WOndering if that's

what's going on here....

> > I am going to drop the Elderberry. I do want to continue some kind of

anti-viral protocol however (alongside a much increased yeast protocol). We

think he has residual viral issues from the nasal Flu mist live virus which

caused his regression... Also, he's a kid who responds to viral infections (like

the flu which is floating around alot here now) with seizures. So, anti-viral

seems quite important.

> > BUT what can I use to do this? Do you think Monolaurin is OK from this

standpoint?

>

> I have used Lauricidin here. It cause soooooooooo much yeast that I

eventually had to stop using it.

>

> > And the question remains for yeast what's best from a phenol/oxalate

standpoint? Our DAN told me to cut the OLE, GSE, Oregon Grape and Quercetin and

NOT to increase his biotin (which we give a lot of)

>

> Personally, I would ignore the DAN and increase the biotin. You can try

Candidase or Candex also.

>

> > Now I must admit, I am a bit stumped. I am clear that there is yeast

however. His poop this morning gave more evidence (I will spare you all the

details, but it is classic yeast poop---after 2 days of constipation???)

>

> Yeast tends to be constipating for most people.

>

> Dana

>

November 15, 2009

Persoanlly, I would start with either ViraStop or Valtrex but not both together.

Valtrex is a prescription drug so it might be easier to start with ViraStop.

ViraStop is more expensive though, so that could be a deciding factor. Valtrex

comes as a huge blue pill. To compound it, first wash off the blue coating (it

has aluminum in it) by running it under water and rubbing the blue off. Some

people soak it, and some people rub it with a damp cloth, but I found my way

easiest. You will lose a little of the med itself. Leave the pills to dry

completely (overnight). I would do this for all the pills at once. You may

need to get a pill splitter if you are starting low. Grind the pill (or split

part) with a mortar and pestle, making sure to get the powder very fine. I

found that the powder dissolved in oil much better than water so I would mix it

into a teaspoon of cod liver oil (which tastes nasty anyway, Valtrex tastes

AWFUL BTW) and then give it with an oral syringe and a chaser. I think that if

you do Valtrex for more than a couple months you may need to get bloodwork done

regularly to check on the liver. ViraStop is very safe so you don't need to do

that.

As for the SCD/GAPS, you can make delicious cupcakes and treats on the diet. I

don't know why you would need to cheat and use sugar. We make treats that even

kids who eat " normal " junk food all day long like. Here is a link to a recipe

for GAPS cupcakes:

http://grainfreefoodie.blogspot.com/2009/03/almond-coconut-cupcakes-with.html

It's from a blog that some friends and I do about what we cook on GAPS (we have

recipes for a lot of other treats, even candy on there). I completely agree

about the emotional need for treats and special things.

GAPS is more of a protocol than SCD, so it is harder to do, but many people do

something in between the two. For example, my kids won't touch broth or soup so

I don't do that part. SCD tells you what NOT to eat, GAPS also tells you what

to eat to heal. It's very hard to start, but once you get onto it, it gets

easier. The amount of healing that my family has had is unbelieveable! Lots of

people also start SCD and then later switch to GAPS. I'm sure you'll find a way

to make the diet work for you. If you do decide to still give occasional sugar,

I think the diet is still worth doing- just give more probiotics and other yest

killers afterwards.

Sounds like you're doing a lot of great probiotics. You could try rotating in

Threelac and seeing if it helps- it is specifically for yeast and basically

" eats " the yeast, which I think is why we didn't get die-off from it- I think it

" ate " the toxins that the yeast give off. Last Christmas we were eating a ton

of sugar (last binge before going on GAPS) on 3 packets a day of Threelac kept

the yeast at bay. I don't recommend doing that, but it worked!

Personally, depending on how much phenol reaction your son gets, I would not put

the OLE back in until you get that under control. I would use other things for

yeast and viruses. To support phenol issues you can give molybdenum- it helps

the body produce sulfate. Do you also give epsom salt baths or use epsom salt

lotion?

-Sierra

> > >

> > > Thank you Sierra (and all of you who've sent such great responses!)

> > >

> > > I am going to drop the Elderberry. I do want to continue some kind of

anti-viral protocol however (alongside a much increased yeast protocol). We

think he has residual viral issues from the nasal Flu mist live virus which

caused his regression... Also, he's a kid who responds to viral infections (like

the flu which is floating around alot here now) with seizures. So, anti-viral

seems quite important.

> > >

> > > BUT what can I use to do this? Do you think Monolaurin is OK from this

standpoint?

> > >

> > > He had a terrible reaction (phenolic) to OLE...

> > >

> > > And the question remains for yeast what's best from a phenol/oxalate

standpoint? Our DAN told me to cut the OLE, GSE, Oregon Grape and Quercetin and

NOT to increase his biotin (which we give a lot of)

> > >

> > > Now I must admit, I am a bit stumped. I am clear that there is yeast

however. His poop this morning gave more evidence (I will spare you all the

details, but it is classic yeast poop---after 2 days of constipation???)

> > >

> > > Thanks for any help with this!!!!

> > > Alisa

> >

>

November 15, 2009

I am using Isoprinosine as an antiviral.If anyone knows of an antibacterial

that's just as good,please let me know.Â '

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From: purpledragonmama05 <sierra.ansley@...>

Subject: Re: Sensory regression!!! Yeast? Hormones? Phenyols?

Help!!

Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 5:54 PM

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Persoanlly, I would start with either ViraStop or Valtrex but not both

together. Valtrex is a prescription drug so it might be easier to start with

ViraStop. ViraStop is more expensive though, so that could be a deciding

factor. Valtrex comes as a huge blue pill. To compound it, first wash off the

blue coating (it has aluminum in it) by running it under water and rubbing the

blue off. Some people soak it, and some people rub it with a damp cloth, but I

found my way easiest. You will lose a little of the med itself. Leave the

pills to dry completely (overnight). I would do this for all the pills at once.

You may need to get a pill splitter if you are starting low. Grind the pill (or

split part) with a mortar and pestle, making sure to get the powder very fine.

I found that the powder dissolved in oil much better than water so I would mix

it into a teaspoon of cod liver oil (which tastes nasty anyway, Valtrex tastes

AWFUL BTW) and then

give it with an oral syringe and a chaser. I think that if you do Valtrex for

more than a couple months you may need to get bloodwork done regularly to check

on the liver. ViraStop is very safe so you don't need to do that.

As for the SCD/GAPS, you can make delicious cupcakes and treats on the diet. I

don't know why you would need to cheat and use sugar. We make treats that even

kids who eat " normal " junk food all day long like. Here is a link to a recipe

for GAPS cupcakes:

http://grainfreefoo die.blogspot. com/2009/ 03/almond- coconut-cupcakes

-with.html It's from a blog that some friends and I do about what we cook on

GAPS (we have recipes for a lot of other treats, even candy on there). I

completely agree about the emotional need for treats and special things.