Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Here! Here! Here! In a car, he talks louder than at home.....outside, he almost shouts and screams excessively, wants something to eat, can barely hear him...... I am constantly saying, talk softly, and I talk softly as an example.....doesn't seem to get thru....... April" E. Stoecker" <emilystoecker@...> wrote: Does anyone's child have issues with voice regulation? My 5 year old daughter (moderate Autism) speaks very loudly in public places, or in quiet places. I look at her and she has no idea that its inappropriate.Then when we get home and she is welcome to talk, she whispers or gives these faint vocalizations.Does anyone else have this issue where you child has trouble controling their voice? Sophie's hearing is fine, we've had it tested and tested (even the nerve test) and Thank God it's Ok.-www.walknow.org/newyork/teamsophieschoiceYM and AOL IM handle: LittleSmokes1978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Here! Here! Here! In a car, he talks louder than at home.....outside, he almost shouts and screams excessively, wants something to eat, can barely hear him...... I am constantly saying, talk softly, and I talk softly as an example.....doesn't seem to get thru....... April" E. Stoecker" <emilystoecker@...> wrote: Does anyone's child have issues with voice regulation? My 5 year old daughter (moderate Autism) speaks very loudly in public places, or in quiet places. I look at her and she has no idea that its inappropriate.Then when we get home and she is welcome to talk, she whispers or gives these faint vocalizations.Does anyone else have this issue where you child has trouble controling their voice? Sophie's hearing is fine, we've had it tested and tested (even the nerve test) and Thank God it's Ok.-www.walknow.org/newyork/teamsophieschoiceYM and AOL IM handle: LittleSmokes1978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 You've just described MY daughter! I've always thought it was interesting that with her, at least, in public places when she gets really loud or at home when she's loud, she's usually under stress and is using echolalia or sub-vocalizing with a stream of single words or phrases repeated over and over, almost like a chant. Then when she's trying to tell me or answer something, share a comment, ask a question, etc she's really quiet -- like a whisper sometimes -- and I wonder if the reason is because in those situations she's trying to produce that elusive spontaneous communication? It may sound wierd, but that's my theory! Now what to do about it is the thousand dollar question. I'll be interested to hear if anyone else is dealing with this and what you've tried. When she's loud, it's usually a stream of loud repetitive subvocalizations that can last anywhere from several seconds to several minutes (til she has to take a breath -- then it can start right up again!). And they seem impossible to interrupt when they are happening, almost like she HAS to get it out and this is the only way she knows how to. -------------- Original message -------------- From: " E. Stoecker" <emilystoecker@...> Does anyone's child have issues with voice regulation? My 5 year old daughter (moderate Autism) speaks very loudly in public places, or in quiet places. I look at her and she has no idea that its inappropriate.Then when we get home and she is welcome to talk, she whispers or gives these faint vocalizations.Does anyone else have this issue where you child has trouble controling their voice? Sophie's hearing is fine, we've had it tested and tested (even the nerve test) and Thank God it's Ok.-www.walknow.org/newyork/teamsophieschoiceYM and AOL IM handle: LittleSmokes1978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 You've just described MY daughter! I've always thought it was interesting that with her, at least, in public places when she gets really loud or at home when she's loud, she's usually under stress and is using echolalia or sub-vocalizing with a stream of single words or phrases repeated over and over, almost like a chant. Then when she's trying to tell me or answer something, share a comment, ask a question, etc she's really quiet -- like a whisper sometimes -- and I wonder if the reason is because in those situations she's trying to produce that elusive spontaneous communication? It may sound wierd, but that's my theory! Now what to do about it is the thousand dollar question. I'll be interested to hear if anyone else is dealing with this and what you've tried. When she's loud, it's usually a stream of loud repetitive subvocalizations that can last anywhere from several seconds to several minutes (til she has to take a breath -- then it can start right up again!). And they seem impossible to interrupt when they are happening, almost like she HAS to get it out and this is the only way she knows how to. -------------- Original message -------------- From: " E. Stoecker" <emilystoecker@...> Does anyone's child have issues with voice regulation? My 5 year old daughter (moderate Autism) speaks very loudly in public places, or in quiet places. I look at her and she has no idea that its inappropriate.Then when we get home and she is welcome to talk, she whispers or gives these faint vocalizations.Does anyone else have this issue where you child has trouble controling their voice? Sophie's hearing is fine, we've had it tested and tested (even the nerve test) and Thank God it's Ok.-www.walknow.org/newyork/teamsophieschoiceYM and AOL IM handle: LittleSmokes1978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 My daughter has the same issue with uninterruptable echoalia/chants when she becomes frustrated or tired. I try to offer her some oral motor chew toys or ask if she wants to jump or use the therapy ball. She'll ignore me or lash out at me for wanting to stop her word/sound rampage. Em On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:07 am, jeruefamily@... wrote: > You've just described MY daughter!  I've always thought it was > interesting that with her, at least, in public places when she gets > really loud or at home when she's loud, she's usually under stress and > is using echolalia or sub-vocalizing with a stream of single words or > phrases repeated over and over, almost like a chant. Then when she's > trying to tell me or answer something, share a comment, ask a question, > etc she's really quiet -- like a whisper sometimes -- and I wonder if > the reason is because in those situations she's trying to produce that > elusive spontaneous communication? It may sound wierd, but that's my > theory! > > Now what to do about it is the thousand dollar question. I'll be > interested to hear if anyone else is dealing with this and what you've > tried. When she's loud, it's usually a stream of loud repetitive > subvocalizations that can last anywhere from several seconds to several > minutes (til she has to take a breath -- then it can start right up > again!). And they seem impossible to interrupt when they are > happening, almost like she HAS to get it out and this is the only way > she knows how to. > >> -------------- Original message -------------- >> From: " E. Stoecker " <emilystoecker@...> >> >> Does anyone's child have issues with voice regulation? My 5 year old >> daughter (moderate Autism) speaks very loudly in public places, or in >> quiet places. I look at her and she has no idea that its inappropriate. >> >> Then when we get home and she is welcome to talk, she whispers or gives >> these faint vocalizations. >> >> Does anyone else have this issue where you child has trouble controling >> their voice? Sophie's hearing is fine, we've had it tested and tested >> (even the nerve test) and Thank God it's Ok. >> >> - >> www.walknow.org/newyork/teamsophieschoice >> YM and AOL IM handle: LittleSmokes1978 > > - www.walknow.org/newyork/teamsophieschoice YM and AOL IM handle: LittleSmokes1978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Yes, , Karac has developed the same problem. In public we say, "calm and quiet" and that helps. At home we say, "use your big voice." or we don't respond until he speaks in a normal voice. We haven't solved the problem yet. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 How do we help our kids, I wonder? In reading all of our experiences, it strikes me that our kids could be louder in situations where they get sensory overload of some sort, are frustrated or maybe just plain uncomfortable. Are they trying to tune out the scary confusing uncomfortable world and replace it or gain some feeling of control over it by being loud? That's a world full of familiar sounds to them after all, at least in the case of my daughter who chants these constant streams of familiar words or phrases over and over -- usually at a yelling level! One situation in particular we've figured out a solution for, at least right now, that reduces the yelling. In checkout lines!! Mainly Walgreens or the grocery stores. Even a short line and we get yelling. We tried a lot of different strategies, but the one that worked for her was me looking right at her and saying in my best empathetic voice -- 'I know. Waiting is hard. Two (or however many people are ahead of us in line) more people, and then it's 's turn.' Anyway, by the time I'm saying 'waiting is hard' she looks at me like 'oh, thank god, you get it!'. The other advantage to me saying it out loud is it often also communicates to the other customers in the line that I've got the situation somewhat under control, they can relax, and some even smile in understanding - once a guy even said 'yeah, , I know how you feel!' and smiled. Truthfully, usually all we get is stares or uncomfortable look-aways, but we remember those few nice people that demonstrate empathy and understanding, don't we? Any other strategies that are working? Re: Loud talking Here! Here! Here! In a car, he talks louder than at home.....outside, he almost shouts and screams excessively, wants something to eat, can barely hear him...... I am constantly saying, talk softly, and I talk softly as an example.....doesn't seem to get thru....... April" E. Stoecker" <emilystoeckertmail> wrote: Does anyone's child have issues with voice regulation? My 5 year old daughter (moderate Autism) speaks very loudly in public places, or in quiet places. I look at her and she has no idea that its inappropriate.Then when we get home and she is welcome to talk, she whispers or gives these faint vocalizations.Does anyone else have this issue where you child has trouble controling their voice? Sophie's hearing is fine, we've had it tested and tested (even the nerve test) and Thank God it's Ok.-www.walknow.org/newyork/teamsophieschoiceYM and AOL IM handle: LittleSmokes1978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 My son used to talk loudly all the time. Since I started the GFCF diet, he doesn't do it much anymore. Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 My son used to talk loudly all the time. Since I started the GFCF diet, he doesn't do it much anymore. Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 Add magnesium citrate and remove all milk substitutes. It sounds like a calcium regulation issue? What other medical issues does she have? loud talking OKay, I have contacted this group for so much help that has been wonderful, but for 3 years we have been dealing with one same issue. My daughter practically yells everytime she speaks, she just cannot speak with an inside voice. We have had her hearing checked more than once, she has worked with behaviorlists, and speech therapists--and nothing works. She is on a GF/CF diet, takes theralac probiotics, HNI products, and we supplement with OoO, and GSE. WE work heavily on the yeast c onstantly. But no matter what we do, she is loud, loud, loud. WE didn't know if this was a common side effect of the ADHD, or this is just her......With her so many medical issues, we just don't know...Does anyone have this same issue or have some advice. She talks constantly and I mean constantly and extremely fast at 5 yrs old... If she is not talking she is humming, singing or making weird noises, and it is all very loud. Our other issue is her constant ability to walk right up to complete st rangers, absolutely no fear, talks to them about everything, anything personal. iT IS both embarassing and horrifying... Her behaviorlist has worked on this too, it lasts for 10 minutes, adn that's it, she right back to talking to everyone, or should I say yelling at everyone....Help jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 yep that's her. I know what the PDD stands for but what is the NOS mean. She has not been diagnosed with either, due to all her amino acid issues, hypoglycemia, and other medical problems that effect her ADHD, sleep, and behavior-----we know she is definately on the spectrum, but they think she is too high functioning to qualify for Aspbergers, becuase they say she knows peoples emotions. I know, I know, they are all different versions, we don't need the diagnosis, we know. This Loud talking jsut drives us nuts.....thanks for letting me know, we are not the only ones dealing with this..... loud talking > My almost 5 year old son with PDD-NOS is the same way. He can speak in 5-7 > word sentences so there isn't any personal information he talks about but > he is very loud and unless he's playing with a toy that he is > concentrating on, he is non-stop talking about anything. Mostly counting, > labeling and repeating sentences he has heard. He has no concept of > talking quietly even after I tell him his sister is sleeping...he just > doesn't get it. He does the same in school. They tell him " quiet words " or > " inside voice " but he can't seem to remember long enough for it to be > effective. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Mine is like that too..she is 4 and on ASD. Have been telling her she needs to use quite voice and showing her some examples, but it works very slowly!!! have you checked out for hypotonia/hypertonia? I need to do that! ________________________________ From: thesweetattack <thesweetattack@...> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 12:13:20 AM Subject: loud talking OKay, I have contacted this group for so much help that has been wonderful, but for 3 years we have been dealing with one same issue. My daughter practically yells everytime she speaks, she just cannot speak with an inside voice. We have had her hearing checked more than once, she has worked with behaviorlists, and speech therapists-- and nothing works. She is on a GF/CF diet, takes theralac probiotics, HNI products, and we supplement with OoO, and GSE. WE work heavily on the yeast constantly. But no matter what we do, she is loud, loud, loud. WE didn't know if this was a common side effect of the ADHD, or this is just her......With her so many medical issues, we just don't know...Does anyone have this same issue or have some advice. She talks constantly and I mean constantly and extremely fast at 5 yrs old... If she is not talking she is humming, singing or making weird noises, and it is all very loud. Our other issue is her constant ability to walk right up to complete strangers, absolutely no fear, talks to them about everything, anything personal. iT IS both embarassing and horrifying.. . Her behaviorlist has worked on this too, it lasts for 10 minutes, adn that's it, she right back to talking to everyone, or should I say yelling at everyone.... Help jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 >>But no matter what we do, she is loud, loud, loud. WE didn't know if this was a common side effect of the ADHD, or this is just her......With her so many medical issues, we just don't know...Does anyone have this same issue or have some advice. She talks constantly and I mean constantly and extremely fast at 5 yrs old... If she is not talking she is humming, singing or making weird noises, and it is all very loud. Our other issue is her constant ability to walk right up to complete strangers, absolutely no fear, talks to them about everything, anything personal. iT IS both embarassing and horrifying... Her behaviorlist has worked on this too, it lasts for 10 minutes, adn that's it, she right back to talking to everyone, or should I say yelling at everyone....Help At my house, this is almost gone for my #4, and I give her lysine for herpes virus, mB12, and yeast control. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 My guys is totally high functioning, labeled the PPD-NOS. He was pretty much like that but has gotten better with age, he's 9.6. No ideas except to think about chelation. It's like talking to a brick wall and comes out better if it comes from some one other than me. I'd love my guy to " eat " like a normal person. Made pancakes this morning and he eats like a 2 year old. All over his face/hands, doesn't want to learn proper table manners, using a knife, napkin. You'd think we raised him in the barn. We remind him when we travel, go to a friends house, we have to have good manners. He understands and feels bad but........I don't get it! Tammy loud talking > My almost 5 year old son with PDD-NOS is the same way. He can speak in 5-7 > word sentences so there isn't any personal information he talks about but > he is very loud and unless he's playing with a toy that he is > concentrating on, he is non-stop talking about anything. Mostly counting, > labeling and repeating sentences he has heard. He has no concept of > talking quietly even after I tell him his sister is sleeping...he just > doesn't get it. He does the same in school. They tell him " quiet words " or > " inside voice " but he can't seem to remember long enough for it to be > effective. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 As someone who has been there, and done it, you MUST remember, our kids are developmentally delayed, that means that while they may be 9.6 yr old OUTSIDE, INSIDE he may only be 5yo or 4yo, it will come in time with maturity, it is SLOW coming but eventually it will come, BE PATIENT, the younger they are outside, the younger they are INSIDE!!! IT SUCKS, I know! but there is NOTHING you can do to change it, just be understanding and patient and KEEP TEACHING, they will eventually get it. DONT GIVE UP! My " little " guy is now almost 17yo, but inside I figure about 13, the older they get, the shorter the gap . I hope this helps someone. Blessings Conrad In , " Tammy Kuhn " <tkuhn1@...> wrote: > > My guys is totally high functioning, labeled the PPD-NOS. He was pretty much like that but has gotten better with age, he's 9.6. No ideas except to think about chelation. It's like talking to a brick wall and comes out better if it comes from some one other than me. > > I'd love my guy to " eat " like a normal person. Made pancakes this morning and he eats like a 2 year old. All over his face/hands, doesn't want to learn proper table manners, using a knife, napkin. You'd think we raised him in the barn. We remind him when we travel, go to a friends house, we have to have good manners. He understands and feels bad but........I don't get it! > > Tammy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 My daughter in public talks very very quietly. I'm wondering if the volume is a girl thing. I have been wanting to study ways to help girls more. From: Kim <koreanmom43girls@...> Subject: Re: loud talking Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 7:41 AM Mine is like that too..she is 4 and on ASD. Have been telling her she needs to use quite voice and showing her some examples, but it works very slowly!!! have you checked out for hypotonia/hypertoni a? I need to do that! ____________ _________ _________ __ From: thesweetattack <thesweetattack@ verizon.net> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 12:13:20 AM Subject: loud talking OKay, I have contacted this group for so much help that has been wonderful, but for 3 years we have been dealing with one same issue. My daughter practically yells everytime she speaks, she just cannot speak with an inside voice. We have had her hearing checked more than once, she has worked with behaviorlists, and speech therapists-- and nothing works. She is on a GF/CF diet, takes theralac probiotics, HNI products, and we supplement with OoO, and GSE. WE work heavily on the yeast constantly. But no matter what we do, she is loud, loud, loud. WE didn't know if this was a common side effect of the ADHD, or this is just her......With her so many medical issues, we just don't know...Does anyone have this same issue or have some advice. She talks constantly and I mean constantly and extremely fast at 5 yrs old... If she is not talking she is humming, singing or making weird noises, and it is all very loud. Our other issue is her constant ability to walk right up to complete strangers, absolutely no fear, talks to them about everything, anything personal. iT IS both embarassing and horrifying.. . Her behaviorlist has worked on this too, it lasts for 10 minutes, adn that's it, she right back to talking to everyone, or should I say yelling at everyone.... Help jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 For us this goes hand in hand with sugar. Not bacteria necessarily, but just an inability to process sugar. As long as we make sure there is protein with the carb/sugar food and no juice and no soda, we're good. If we have a dessert, then we have to up the enzymes and give a couple Culturelle before bed. It's more a sugar uptake/dumping issue that seems to go hand in hand with her speech volume and speed. It " was " funny when she was little and we'd joke she didn't come with volume control. Then we found out the double aluminum dose in the DTap she received impaired her ability to process sugar. Now, not funny, she's four and we understand why she is impaired in this way, but we also have figured out how to control it. loud talking OKay, I have contacted this group for so much help that has been wonderful, but for 3 years we have been dealing with one same issue. My daughter practically yells everytime she speaks, she just cannot speak with an inside voice. We have had her hearing checked more than once, she has worked with behaviorlists, and speech therapists--and nothing works. She is on a GF/CF diet, takes theralac probiotics, HNI products, and we supplement with OoO, and GSE. WE work heavily on the yeast constantly. But no matter what we do, she is loud, loud, loud. WE didn't know if this was a common side effect of the ADHD, or this is just her......With her so many medical issues, we just don't know...Does anyone have this same issue or have some advice. She talks constantly and I mean constantly and extremely fast at 5 yrs old... If she is not talking she is humming, singing or making weird noises, and it is all very loud. Our other issue is her constant ability to walk right up to complete strangers, absolutely no fear, talks to them about everything, anything personal. iT IS both embarassing and horrifying... Her behaviorlist has worked on this too, it lasts for 10 minutes, adn that's it, she right back to talking to everyone, or should I say yelling at everyone....Help jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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