Re: 12 days of Withdrawals...

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I very much sympathize with you about the withdrawal effect. We have gone

through it a few times.

I would think about what you are using for yeast/bacteria? Sometimes these

things have to be changed, as diet changes. Also, if you are using Tri-Enza, you

may be having die-off now that the gluten and dairy are gone. They may have been

masking something. The gut is a strange thing!Activated charcoal after yeast

meds works great for a few days. My son had terrible die off with fever, and a

bad cold coming out of nowhere - charcoal cleared them right up, even after 5

days of die off.

If Tri-Enza doesn't work, consider switching enzymes. We found at our house, it

wasn't strong enough. Also, when you remove the offending foods, your sons body

actually may be going through all these things for a good reason - he has never

felt all the sensory things he is now and is adjusting to them. My son was in a

fog for too long, and when we removed the gluten and dairy, he had to relearn

how to cope with functioning. It passes though.

We now do the Specific Carb Diet with enzymes at every meal.Now, we don't do it

with the " fanatical adherance " that is recommended, but enough to know it works.

We don't do rice, potato, etc because my son can't tolertate them.Perhaps he

will at another point in healing.

Please be patient with all the changes your son is going through. Ask us all the

questions you want, becasue we have all walked or or walking in your shoes!

Blessings,

Susi

[Guest guest]

Hi!? What enzymes are stronger than Trienza?? Thank you:)

[Guest guest]

We have found that Kirkman Maximum Spectrum Enzyme Complete/DPP-IV Fruit Free

w/Isogest works very, very well in our house. I think Krkiman promotes theirs to

be one of the strongest on the market.We have a myriad of food issues,

especially with starches and sugars, so this product addresses all those for us.

Other folks like other enzymes.

Hope this helps,

Susi

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[Guest guest]

> Today (Wednesday) his behavior is worse than when he went through the Gluten

withdrawals. To be honest, it is a little scary. Impulsive, squealing,

pinching, biting, hitting, pinching himself, etc. I am assuming this is a

yeast/bacteria issue.

It does sound like probably yeast, altho might be something else, like he might

not tolerate a new food. My son's rice intolerance was much worse than his

wheat intolerance.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I would try transitioning to a diet like the specific carboydrate diet or the

Body Ecology Diet which eliminates corn and rice and other complex starches

along with gluten and encourages fermented foods to help control yeast/bad

bacteria.

Dana

gornells wrote:

> I have tried to post before but was unsuccessful, I really hope I can

get through this time.

> My son has SPD and is 3 years old. I put him on Tri-Enza a few months ago. We

had moderate success. It made me hopeful so I contacted a pediatric nutritionist

who specializes in special needs children.

> After we went through my sons history she told me the it was very obvious he

was going to need to go off of dairy and then wheat. (Could not tolerate milk

the first 6 months, chronic ear infections, massive toxic stools, etc)

> I then took him off of dairy without any irritation. I had slowly begun to

reduce his wheat intake. He officially went off wheat 12 days ago. The Gluten

withdrawals were really bad. The third day being the worst. After that we saw

gradual improvement in his behavior-except his stools were still very soft and

yellow to orange. But he had a great next few days-clear, very calm and no

aggression.

> But by Sunday afternoon he started to speak in a strained voice, a little

squealing and he bit his cousin. He seemed restless and wired. By Monday

morning he was speaking in a weird strained voice, squealing, pinching, biting

and having a hard time with transitions. By mid-day Monday I took him off of all

starches. (btw-before this, I might have gone a little crazy with the GFCF

pancake, waffle, banana bread mixes, etc. b/c i was scared he was not going to

eat anything)

> Today (Wednesday) his behavior is worse than when he went through the Gluten

withdrawals. To be honest, it is a little scary. Impulsive, squealing,

pinching, biting, hitting, pinching himself, etc. I am assuming this is a

yeast/bacteria issue. I basically removed one thing (wheat) and replaced it with

another starch (rice, potato, corn) and he is obviously having a negative

reaction.

> I just started giving him probiotics today with the Tri-Enza enzymes and he

has had no starches since Monday at lunch.

> My questions is:

> What the heck is going on?

> Is there anything else I can do to help him?

> How long does something like this last?

> Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated.

>

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[Guest guest]

he has been of the specific carb diet now for the past 2 weeks. things continued

to go from bad to worse after my last post. then it seemed like he was starting

to feel better...but then had a major regression and became borderline

psychotic!!! again, very scary.

a few days ago we figured out he is having trouble absorbing fats. not knowing

this i was giving him cod liver oil and making the matter much worse. he was a

very sick little boy. the yeast came back and we are now dealing with die

off...again. hopefully we are getting to the bottom of all of this.

wish us luck.

> > I have tried to post before but was unsuccessful, I really hope I can

get through this time.

> > My son has SPD and is 3 years old. I put him on Tri-Enza a few months ago.

We had moderate success. It made me hopeful so I contacted a pediatric

nutritionist who specializes in special needs children.

> > After we went through my sons history she told me the it was very obvious he

was going to need to go off of dairy and then wheat. (Could not tolerate milk

the first 6 months, chronic ear infections, massive toxic stools, etc)

> > I then took him off of dairy without any irritation. I had slowly begun to

reduce his wheat intake. He officially went off wheat 12 days ago. The Gluten

withdrawals were really bad. The third day being the worst. After that we saw

gradual improvement in his behavior-except his stools were still very soft and

yellow to orange. But he had a great next few days-clear, very calm and no

aggression.

> > But by Sunday afternoon he started to speak in a strained voice, a little

squealing and he bit his cousin. He seemed restless and wired. By Monday

morning he was speaking in a weird strained voice, squealing, pinching, biting

and having a hard time with transitions. By mid-day Monday I took him off of all

starches. (btw-before this, I might have gone a little crazy with the GFCF

pancake, waffle, banana bread mixes, etc. b/c i was scared he was not going to

eat anything)

> > Today (Wednesday) his behavior is worse than when he went through the Gluten

withdrawals. To be honest, it is a little scary. Impulsive, squealing,

pinching, biting, hitting, pinching himself, etc. I am assuming this is a

yeast/bacteria issue. I basically removed one thing (wheat) and replaced it with

another starch (rice, potato, corn) and he is obviously having a negative

reaction.

> > I just started giving him probiotics today with the Tri-Enza enzymes and he

has had no starches since Monday at lunch.

> > My questions is:

> > What the heck is going on?

> > Is there anything else I can do to help him?

> > How long does something like this last?

> > Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated.

> >

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