Re: Can b12/folinic acid cause anger issues?

[Guest guest]

Yes, that's what happened to my son. If you follow Yasko protocol, he

may be considered an overmethylator. He's getting to many methyl

groups for his body to process. You can try the hydroxy form of b12 to

see if he tolerates that better and back down on the amount of folinic

acid.

Donna

>

> Hi,

> My son has recently started subl.b12 and folinic acid, and has really

> gotten inpatient and angry - has anyone else had this happen?

> Thanks,

> Susi

>

[Guest guest]

I myself got VERY irritable when I gook methyl B12. I used to tolerate it

fine, but for some reason I can't anymore (probably because my gut has

improved). They say to take methylators to tolerance, so it might be that

the dosage is too high for him.

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:30 PM, sabels_4 <nmsabel@...> wrote:

> Yes, that's what happened to my son. If you follow Yasko protocol, he

> may be considered an overmethylator. He's getting to many methyl

> groups for his body to process. You can try the hydroxy form of b12 to

> see if he tolerates that better and back down on the amount of folinic

> acid.

> Donna

>

>

> >

> > Hi,

> > My son has recently started subl.b12 and folinic acid, and has really

> > gotten inpatient and angry - has anyone else had this happen?

> > Thanks,

> > Susi

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I've never heard this term..overmethylator. Could someone elaborate

for me? I tried to google it but didn't get an exact answer. And

what is the Yasko protocol?

Thanks so much!!!

>

> > Yes, that's what happened to my son. If you follow Yasko protocol, he

> > may be considered an overmethylator. He's getting to many methyl

> > groups for his body to process. You can try the hydroxy form of

b12 to

> > see if he tolerates that better and back down on the amount of folinic

> > acid.

> > Donna

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi . I just read a great article on this subject in the files

section. Here is the link:

http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/wLx1SRMdLd-2s8M7wyryQ8Vx_YNT9itAD981NY6yBx6WgJx-eFB\

oqf8YRKhOYtRQwNwL10kINp3a1e9YOA1pixz1ODEXQRU/Related%20Topics%20and%20Supplement\

s/Methylation

Or if that doesn't work, just go the files section of this group,

click on Related Topics and Subjects, then click on Methylation.

Hope that helps!

K

>

> I've never heard this term..overmethylator. Could someone elaborate

> for me? I tried to google it but didn't get an exact answer. And

> what is the Yasko protocol?

>

> Thanks so much!!!

>

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Oops, I meant, click on Related Topics and Supplements (not Subjects,

LOL), then click on Methylation.

K

> >

> > I've never heard this term..overmethylator. Could someone elaborate

> > for me? I tried to google it but didn't get an exact answer. And

> > what is the Yasko protocol?

> >

> > Thanks so much!!!

> >

> >

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20030525/msgs/229704.html you could have a

histidine

level drawn to see if it is high or low... if it is high, it means

overmethlyation. You could

try hyrdoxy b12 injection, he would convert it to methyl if he is high in

histidine. the hyrdoxy injections sting really bad..and they are painful. There

is a hyrdoxy transdermal cream. All of this needs to be compounded.

 

There are also b12 creams you can try. I know its a challenge to figure our kids

out.

They are not all the same. They do not all respond to the same things. So I hope

this helps you. Gretchen PGH PA

From: <gizbaby123@...>

Subject: Re: Can b12/folinic acid cause anger issues?

Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 7:34 AM

I've never heard this term..overmethylato r. Could someone elaborate

for me? I tried to google it but didn't get an exact answer. And

what is the Yasko protocol?

Thanks so much!!!

>

> > Yes, that's what happened to my son. If you follow Yasko protocol, he

> > may be considered an overmethylator. He's getting to many methyl

> > groups for his body to process. You can try the hydroxy form of

b12 to

> > see if he tolerates that better and back down on the amount of folinic

> > acid.

> > Donna

> >

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

> My son has recently started subl.b12 and folinic acid, and has really

> gotten inpatient and angry - has anyone else had this happen?

At my house, B12 required folic acid and carnitine for proper

absorption, and it tended to increase yeast. Try increasing the yeast

protocol, see if that helps.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thank you everyone - we are going to speak with his DAN!)when we can

afford it!) about methylation - whether he's an over or under - so we

can tweak this. Dana, I will try your suggestion, thanks!

Susi

[Guest guest]

I agree it may just be too much. We were doing the shot every other day and our

DAN had us double the amount to see if any benefits. He was very angry. When I

asked him what was wrong he said " I don't know. Everything is making me mad " .

After a year or two we now do the smaller amount every day and that works fine

for some reason. We have actually seen improvements in communication and social

awareness.

Tami

@...: katie.mccartney@...: Mon, 19

Jan 2009 23:49:40 -0500Subject: Re: Re: Can b12/folinic acid cause

anger issues?

I myself got VERY irritable when I gook methyl B12. I used to tolerate itfine,

but for some reason I can't anymore (probably because my gut hasimproved). They

say to take methylators to tolerance, so it might be thatthe dosage is too high

for him.On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:30 PM, sabels_4 <nmsabel@...> wrote:> Yes,

that's what happened to my son. If you follow Yasko protocol, he> may be

considered an overmethylator. He's getting to many methyl> groups for his body

to process. You can try the hydroxy form of b12 to> see if he tolerates that

better and back down on the amount of folinic> acid.> Donna>> > >> > Hi,>

> My son has recently started subl.b12 and folinic acid, and has really> >

gotten inpatient and angry - has anyone else had this happen?> > Thanks,> >

Susi> >>

[Guest guest]

We do twice weekly 12.5mg. Compounded methyl without the folinic and my son

reacts Like a mad man the first day or two. Then, he is great. I also add

folinic acid 400mcg in his morning supplements every day. So it is not in his

shot. HTH Gretchen

>

Yes, that's what happened to my son. If you follow Yasko protocol, he> may be

considered an overmethylator. He's getting to many methyl> groups for his body

to process. You can try the hydroxy form of b12 to> see if he tolerates that

better and back down on the amount of folinic> acid.> Donna>> > >> >

Hi,> > My son has recently started subl.b12 and folinic acid, and has really> >

gotten inpatient and angry - has anyone else had this happen?> > Thanks,> >

Susi> >>