Re:Measles titer (maternal)

February 5, 2008

After I gave birth to my son they gave me the Rubella shot in th hospital b/c

they had no previous record of me having it. He has PDD-NOS...coud that be

related?

February 5, 2008

I just found this online....

http://www.vaclib.org/email/autismom.htm

I was given the MMR shot right after birth b/c I showed no antibodies but I

was just looking through my records and saw that I was vaccinated in 2000 with

live MMR and it was my second MMR vaccination. SO all in all I was vacinnated 3

times in my life. The last time within hours after giving birth to my son and

then I breastfed him for 10 months. He then received his MMR short at 1 yr old.

February 7, 2008

> After I gave birth to my son they gave me the Rubella shot in th

hospital b/c they had no previous record of me having it. He has

PDD-NOS...coud that be related?

Rubella is not the same as measles. Measles virus can cause lots of

problems. Are you sure it was a rubella shot?

Dana

February 8, 2008

There's a section about this in Karyn Seroussi's book " Unravelling the

Mystery of Autism and PDD " . She says there's a researcher looking at

the relationship between mothers getting the MMR in the hospital right

after giving birth because their titers are low or non-existent.

There seems to be a correlation between this. Since the book was

written awhile ago, I wonder if this research has been published? I

don't remember anything about it and leant my book to someone, but if

you're curious you could check into it. It sounded from teh book like

there very well may be a correlation. Apparently it was Rubella that

the mothers were not showing antibodies to, but for some reason they

were being given the whole MMR and showing extremely high measles

titers. It could be one more piece in this incredibly complex puzzle...

-Sierra

> > After I gave birth to my son they gave me the Rubella shot in th

> hospital b/c they had no previous record of me having it. He has

> PDD-NOS...coud that be related?

>

> Rubella is not the same as measles. Measles virus can cause lots of

> problems. Are you sure it was a rubella shot?

>

> Dana

>

February 10, 2008

* After I gave birth to my son they gave me the Rubella shot in th

hospital b/c they had no previous record of me having it. He has

PDD-NOS...coud that be related?

There's a Canadian doctor (Dr Moulden) who believes the rubella virus

is the main problem in autism. The article below was on another list

recently. Not sure where they got it from.

Dr Moulden said...

To Whom it may concern:. October 8, 2007

Re: Autism epidemic - I know the cause and how to stop it...Period.

My name is Dr. Moulden. I have an eclectic background studying the

human brain. An honors B.A. in biological psychology (valedictorian), an

M.A. (child development - my thesis was in developmental neuropsychology and

language development in children), Ph.D. in Clinical Neuropsychology (thesis

was neurophysiology and brain imaging). Concordant with the PhD I completed

and extra specialization in basic and applied neuroscience. I was top ranked

in the PhD and the M.A.

After the Ph.D. rather than take up a six figure salary, I went on to

Medical school, completing electives in Neurology, genetics, physitary,

family medicine... and then on to a neuropsychiatry residency at the

University of Ottawa and Toronto.

I have not just studied the human brain in academia - my undergrad and

graduate course grades relative to the human brain were 98%, 96% and

straight A'.

I received 27 scholarships and awards for academic, research, and clinical

excellence during the 13 1/2 years of formal University training; I was a

regional, provincial, and national scholar as well as an Ontario Mental

Health Foundation scholar. I have taught brain and behavior courses at the

university level for 12 years during and after my studies. Some have said I

am a " born communicator. "

I then commenced residency training in psychiatry. That is in addition to my

PhD clinical training as a neuopsychologist. I wear the hats of more than

one " Brain " Doctor. As such, when it comes to clinical conundrums affecting

the human brain, I tend to think outside the box from multiple fronts. I

liken it to the Chinese proverb of three blind men feeling different parts

of the elephant (the tail, the body, and the trunk) - each describes what

they " see " from their unique vantage point. My training has allowed me to

place " several " hands on the entire elephant, simultaneously, and describe

it as a whole.. " an elephant! " ..not like a rope, a wall, or a tree trunk.

Beyond the accolades, I am also a high school drop-out (grade 11). I was

also adopted as an infant. I met my biological family (3 sisters, brother,

parents 50 plus aunts/uncles etc. on March 16th, 2001.

During an elective psychiatry placement 6 months out of medical school

(January 2001), I came across two interesting case histories while on an out

of town placement. I had just returned from delivering the eulogy for my

mother-in-law who had passed away, in my arms, in the ICU in Ottawa after a

two week battle with cancer. I was distraught. I was also pleasantly

surprised that these two clinical cases, as well as a call from adoption

services saying " we found your biological parents - they want to meet you "

happened on the same day.

These two cases were an autistic and a schizophrenia case. Both had a

similar family history relative to rubella (German measles) exposure and

vaccination. Armed with 14 years of formal studies of the human brain, this

was the first time I had ever come across a clinical case of autism.

Unlike my contemporary researchers of autism, I had an advantage. I did not

come to autism with some preconceived beliefs, a research grant, a singular

area of expertise, or a family members illness driving my interests. My area

of expertise is the human brain - from a normal, neurodevelopment framework,

from multiple " professional " hats I wear simultaneously and ability to

interpret diverse research areas relative to the human brain and its

functions.

There are some simple rules you learn about brain function,

neurodevelopment, and functional deregulation when you have studied the

brain as broadly as I have.

When I came across these first two cases (there have been many more since),

the mothers stories of being rubella susceptible during gestation with the

now autistic child struck a chord; as did the case with schizophrenia. I had

studied this neuroviral theory of brain pathology during independent

neuroscience seminars in grad school (re: Dr. Fuller Torrey). However, now I

was armed with medical physiology knowledge, a neuropsychologists Doctorate,

a neurosciences specialist, functional brain imaging scientist, a

neurodevelopmentalist's knowledge specific to language development from

infancy to young adulthood (my M.A, thesis received a provincial award for

this work in 1993), and an understanding of how clinical medicine is taught

and practiced from multiple specialties. Its not so much of knowing

something more than " the other guy " , I now knew what both groups (PhD' and

M.D's) did not know, what they assumed, how they are trained, and the

potential errors they could make based on knowledge that was known, assumed,

and/or accepted status quo.

Several other autistic cases came to light. Knowing what to look for after

my first few case histories, and having my emerging causal model of autism,

relative to rubella, receive support when I took the evolving story back to

the medical literature in the areas of neuroimmunology, virology, and

immunology - the pattern that emerged was consistent across stories and

began to explain, quite eloquently, how the rubella vaccine was causally

related to autism, why we have been missing it, and what we need to do to

stop it. Indeed, it is not even the brain that is being " attacked " as it is

the brains blood supply, both prenatal as a " first hit " and the second hit

comes from the vaccine (or wild virus) as the infants immune system is

uncoupled by re-exposure to the virus post-natal.

I recognized that the mothers stories of rubella susceptibility during

pregnancy, and cases where the test we currently use indicated the mother

should have been rubella immune were significant. It became clear in my mind

that " the hemaglutination " test we use to assure ourselves that woman are

immunized against rubella during pregnancy - must NOT always be accurate.

Sure enough, the medical literature confirmed this suspicion.

Indeed, when you break this all down, there are 6-18% of the populations

whose rubella immune status based on our current hemaglutination antibody

tests, are falsely reassuring us. These women are NOT immune to rubella,

even though the antibody tests suggest they should be.

If such women are exposed to German measles during pregnancy, and they are

in the first trimester, the fetus will be hit as the virus crosses the

placenta, but protective antibodies do not. More over, if a person (adult or

child) receives an attenuated live rubella virus vaccine, or exposure to the

wild rubella virus, and is one of these 6% to 18% with an immune tolerance

to rubella - they will show no outward signs of rubella infection, will

evidence " protective " antibody titers with our currently used rubella immune

assays, yet they can actively shed the virus, asymptomatically, for a

protracted period of time (several months to a year). This will not be

picked up statistically on a population level study as the signal (the few

who exhibit this profile) is buried in the noise (the majority who are

vaccinated do not have this profile). So we assume that the vaccine virus is

not transmissible - that is incorrect...on multiple levels, which I will not

explain here.

I had shared my work with Dr. Bernard Rimland (the founder of the Autism

Research Institute in San Diego, a co-founder of Defeat Autism Network

(DAN), the expert consultant for the movie rainman, and author of the

definitive text in the 1960' showing autism to be a brain disease not

something from " cold mothers. " Bernard knew I had this figured out (I have a

letter to this effect from him). I asked me repeatedly to share this

publicly. However, I informed Bernie that, its no help to come out and

complain about a vaccine - the public health department will defend

vehemently, and many may get hurt if parents opt to NOT vaccinate as a fear

of vaccines in general. It was important to come out with not only the

cause, but a way to test for it, and a solution that does not undermine the

public health vaccine protocols. I told Bernie I was working on these areas,

and I would need more time.

Bernard reluctantly acquiesced and I did keep him in the dark on a few key

things. Nevertheless, I informed him that by the summer of 2007 I would be

ready to bring the entire model to public awareness with the cause of the

autism epidemic, what's happening to the brain, how the rubella vaccine is

causing this autism epidemic(it is not as simple as give the vaccine and the

child develops autism - which is another reason why this is being missed),

and with an immunology test that will show who should not receive the

rubella vaccine (a contraindication test) - that covers adults as well as

children.

The cause of autism is a double hit: they first get hit in utero with the

virus which alters the fetal immune system, and can cause subtle brain

deficits, which may be seen clinically before the send hit, which comes from

the immunization with rubella at 12 and 18 months of age. In essence, we

de-couple the immune system and unleash an autoimmune attack.

In the end, the sub-group that gets vaccinated (currently 1 child in 150)

who develops regressive autism, is having the " brain " attacked (its not

actually the brain that is being hit the hardest as it is the blood supply

routes to the brain) when we de-regulate a rubella specific immune deficit

that was set-up during the first trimester of pregnancy by a prenatal

exposure to the virus.

I am not going into all the details, but its is really quite eloquent and

simple to explain with analogies and examples but it is necessary to

describe basic " rules " of fetal, immunological, neuropsychological, and

neurodevelopment.

Dr. Bernard Rimland was anxious for me to come forth with what I had

discovered. Sadly, Dr. Rimland passed away several months ago. I have lost

him as an advocate, and it too an inordinate amount of effort to hold him at

bay while I was zeroing in on the solution.

Today, I now have the model nailed down to both the cause, and the solution,

and a test that can identify, in advance, who should get the rubella

vaccine, and who should not. Basically, I have an immunological test that

has the capacity to identify which women of child-bearing age, and which

infants should not be vaccinated and who should avoid exposure to rubella

infected sources (a hard thing to do now that the attenuated illness looks

like a common cold). Rubella has a 100% attack rate, is spread by sputum,

feces, nasal secretions, and urine...and the test we currently use to assure

" immunity " is falsely reassuring for many.

I could spend the next three years messing with this in one lab study -

which needs conforming by another lab study and another lab study. This will

play out as it has between the vaccine manufacturers, the public health

departments, and the parents of autistic children both arguing

" cause-effect " and " no-cause effect. " However, the public health problem

here is so vast, and the morbidity and costs to society are so significant,

that it would be irresponsible of me to slow down the wheels of knowledge by

not putting the information I have to the public forum now that I have a

solution in addition to the cause of the problem.

I assure, that what I have to share, you have never heard before. I assure,

and I am willing to put my career and my Faith in God on the line for this,

that I DO have the cause of this autism epidemic, I now have a test that can

identify who will develop autism if vaccinated, and I have the means by

which we can stop this epidemic from progressing.

I also assure, that prior to 1969, the incidence of autism was 1 child in

10,000. When I first pulled this model together, and wrote the first

manuscript draft on June 13, 2001, the incidence was 1 child in 500. I

stated back then, as I continue to state today, that this autism epidemic

will continue to climb until it plateaus at a rate of 1 child in 20 - that's

just predictable once you know the incidence of the immune deficit I refer

to and can now test. ;-)

I would very much like the opportunity to speak wit someone from the Oprah

Winfrey Show. This vaccine story, and my story within it, is fascinating,

frustrating, amusing, contemporary, and amazing on multiple fronts.

I pray, and I shall continue to pray, that the producers of the Oprah

Winfrey show will recognize how important and sensitive this topic is as a

global issue around the world and that I would not be coming forward unless

I was certain I have this nailed down, and have the solution.

Imagine how you would feel if you were me? You knew the answer to this

autism epidemic and how to test for and stop it. Today! With every 1 1/2

minutes that elapses, another child is diagnosed with autism....I am asking

for your help, sincerely, in getting my message to the public and the

scientists as soon as possible - I have the immunology test they need and an

explanation as to how to stop this.

Analogy:

- The public health department deems it advisable that it become mandatory

that all children in North America must receive a " peanut butter " shot at 12

months of age, and 18 months of age. If an adult is found to not have any

protection against peanut butter, he/she as well must have a " peanut butter "

shot.

Here is but one problem from the scientific method eyes. If you give peanut

butter to 1000 children, when only 1 child in 150 will have allergic

reaction (anaphylaxis) - you will conclude, based on scientific methods and

probabilities, that these 1:150 kids are chance occurrences and not causally

related - they are a signal (peanut butter allergy) buried in the noise (the

majority of kids who are not allergic peanut butter).

However, if I was to separate the signal from the noise for you, and provide

you with a test that shows who is likely to have a peanut butter allergy and

who is not: then you truly have an experimental design that is meaningful.

You now compare the incidence of anaphylaxis (allergic reaction) between the

group who is normal on the " peanut butter allergy test " to the incidence of

allergic reaction in those who showed susceptibility on this same test - you

would separate the signal from the noise and conclude " Cause and effect. "

That is what I now have, just such a test. With this immune assay test, the

groups of children can be separated into those who are safe to receive the

rubella vaccine (and no autism) whereas those who show the abnormality on

this immune assay test - if vaccinated will develop autism....

This is important information that should not be held back for two to three

years through the science channels when the incidence is 1 child affected

(for life) every 1 and a half minutes.

The point here as well is that you can never give the same medical treatment

to everyone and not expect problems - we are all different in subtle ways.

When the " hit " rate is sufficiently small (i.e. 1:150) you will lose the

signal (cause) in the noise (coincidence) - I have the means to separate

this now - and the test costs 1 dollar per person to save a lifetime of

disability.

Kind regards

J. Moulden

1-647-202-6131

1-647-477-6959

drmoulden@...

101 Subway Crescent, #2302

Etobicoke, Ontario

Canada M9B 6K4

February 10, 2008