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Hi Amber.

I can relate to your confusion, because that was my reaction 5 months ago

when I was trying to figure out what these new symptoms I was experiencing

were related to. I had gone to three different doctors about these symptoms,

and none of them mentioned candida or tested me for it, despite my having

had 8 months of frequent courses of antibiotics and 3 surgeries.

When I finally felt the vaginal discomfort I realized I had a yeast

infection, and could finally begin to do the research and become informed on

what candida does, and how to deal with it, etc. At that point my primary

doctor agreed that it must be a yeast infection, but still didn't agree that

my head symptoms (sore throat, brain fog, burning eyes, white tongue) had

any relation....

I have been on the elimination diet since May, and am finally beginning to

feel my symptoms reduce. So I know that candida/yeast was the source of my

head symptoms. My doctors are still reluctant to agree that candida have

anything to do with things; my gastroenterologist in particular gets

irritated when I mention it.

Fortunately I have done lots of reading, and being in this group has also

helped me tremendously in figuring out what to do to cope. So I just don't

worry about the medical bias and I stick to the elimination diet and use

probiotic supplements. Since it's working, although slowly for me due to my

cranky digestive system (other problems, not due to candida), I know I'm on

the right path.

My advice is to try the elimination diet for a few months and see how you

are feeling at the end. If you see or feel improvement, even if it's

slight, then you will know you are on the right track. Basically the diet

is healthy eating, so there won't be any danger to you. Because you avoid

starch you might find you have to eat more frequently to maintain your

energy, but that's a minor issue!

Kim M.

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Dear Darline,

Thank you so much for that excellent post. I was the girl who could

only eat 9 foods. That was back in the mid-1980s, and like you I got

well on the candida program. But I had doctors laugh in my face that

I had such a non-existent disease and cured it. I told them I didn't

care what they called my disease - call it the kitchen sink or

whatever - but the fact is I was cured all of my medical problems on

the candida program and that's what counts. Problems those same

doctors treated for years but didn't cure them, i.e. vaginal yeast

for over 25 years! Lo?

But curing candida does not provide money to the medical industry.

Largely it is cured by diet, and the drug companies can't patent

foods. So as a disease it will not get medical attention because it

is not profitable to do so.

The reason most doctors don't agree that candida overgrowth exists is

because the medical industry is run by the drug industry and medical

training is largely funded by the drug industry. In fact back in the

early 1900s when the Rockefellers got into the drug business they

made it their job to take out nutritional training for doctors all

across North America. And they succeeded. Recently I read in The

Yeast Syndrome Book (printed in 1985) that the drug industry

predicted there would be only chemotherapy and no immunotherapy

within the next 10 years. Money talks and they have succeeded

again. It is very sad, and again it proves to us that we must take

charge of our own health and well-being.

The best,

Bee

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Thank you Bee, and nice to chat with you....

As you re-interated...it is money! The doctors have also in certain

terms been told to tell cancer patients that chemo was their only out

and if they tell their patients otherwise it would ruin their

licenses...Most people are oblivious to the medical goings on except

the few who find a way and investigate on their own..or as myself

always been around it....I said for years there is a cure for cancer

and when the upper elite want us to know they would tell us..I

believe the good book tells us what we need to know and we should use

it and do our own investigations...look at all the drugs that injure

people and they pull from the market or that have killed now

honestly if the FDA was doing the testing how could that happen...be

your own judge..We must remember Doctors guess as do the weather

men/ladies in most instances..like my doctor says we dont know

everything there is toooo much to know and they rely on others

too...I only know if I have been to the doctor umptine times and they

have no clue and make me think I am nuts it is time to find it on my

own!..It is like everything else a chain of command and the

pharmacies are behind it more than the doctors....so sad but

true....Well I best get busy with the day but will post again

later...Have a wonderful day...God Bless,darline

>

> Dear Darline,

>

> Thank you so much for that excellent post. I was the girl who

could

> only eat 9 foods. That was back in the mid-1980s, and like you I

got

> well on the candida program. But I had doctors laugh in my face

that

> I had such a non-existent disease and cured it. I told them I

didn't

> care what they called my disease - call it the kitchen sink or

> whatever - but the fact is I was cured all of my medical problems

on

> the candida program and that's what counts. Problems those same

> doctors treated for years but didn't cure them, i.e. vaginal yeast

> for over 25 years! Lo?

>

> But curing candida does not provide money to the medical industry.

> Largely it is cured by diet, and the drug companies can't patent

> foods. So as a disease it will not get medical attention because

it

> is not profitable to do so.

>

> The reason most doctors don't agree that candida overgrowth exists

is

> because the medical industry is run by the drug industry and

medical

> training is largely funded by the drug industry. In fact back in

the

> early 1900s when the Rockefellers got into the drug business they

> made it their job to take out nutritional training for doctors all

> across North America. And they succeeded. Recently I read in The

> Yeast Syndrome Book (printed in 1985) that the drug industry

> predicted there would be only chemotherapy and no immunotherapy

> within the next 10 years. Money talks and they have succeeded

> again. It is very sad, and again it proves to us that we must take

> charge of our own health and well-being.

>

> The best,

> Bee

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Thanks Darline. It was nice chatting to you too. I do hope you

stick around and post more. You have so much to offer to others.

Well, I have to get ready for school this morning - at 62 years old

I'm going back to school and setting up my own business! My

granddaughter thinks it's great. lol!

Luv,

Bee

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Bee that is fantastic!!! I always thought I should go back to school

butttttttt! LOL I have had my own homecare business and for the

last 5 years just helping others and have a basket business...Have a

great day I will post more....darline

>

> Thanks Darline. It was nice chatting to you too. I do hope you

> stick around and post more. You have so much to offer to others.

>

> Well, I have to get ready for school this morning - at 62 years old

> I'm going back to school and setting up my own business! My

> granddaughter thinks it's great. lol!

>

> Luv,

> Bee

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Read this link it will answer most of your questions. Low T does not cause ED I

had low T got it when I was 40 and never had a problem with ED. But after I got

into my 50's I started having the problems and it was from high E2 Estradiol not

Estrogen. E2 is the bad guy here. But low T will lower your sex drive. As for

PE it can be anything. I keep my E2 down with an otc supplement called

Indolplex/DIM but don't mess with your E2 unless you know it is low by a blood

test. Going to low is just as bad as being to high. High E2 also stopped me

from having an orgasm.

http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcls-txt/t-prtcl-130.html

Also go to this site Dr. 's read at the bottom his TRT: A recipe for Success

and his HCG Update. Print them out the tests you need are in there and give a

copy to your Dr. tell your Dr. that Dr. trains other Dr.'s on treating low

t.

http://www.allthingsmale.com/

Phil

vikas Dudhe <vdudhe@...> wrote:

Hi Guys

I like this forum, very good information. But some

time I get confused.

(1) Low T means the ED problems, but low estrogen is

also cause of the ED and less sexual drive, making me

bit confuse?

(2) Is there any permanent treatment which can treat

the cause instead of producing artificial T?

(3) Low T means 3 reason….the testes are not capable

of producing the enough T OR testes are healthy but

the T produced is converted into estridiol OR

pituitary gland is not sensing the low T level and

that means something wrong with them (LH). Is there

any other reason?

(4) I have the gynecomastia, and it is already passed

under the knife, but I want to know the cause, I think

the most probable it is because of hormonal imbalance,

because I have other symptoms which are indicating

towards the hormones.

(5) People said about the ED. I am severely affected,

I am not at all good in the sexual activity, and not

only the ED but I have the premature ejaculation

problems too. People say minute man but I am a second

man.

(6) I fixed an appointment this Friday with the

doctor, but afraid whether he knows much or not, I

don’t want anyone to play with my hormones.

(7) What basic test he is supposed to do for me which

are enough for the proper diagnosis.

Thank YOU for your time in reading this

Ricky

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Hi ,

It's very difficult to know who is *right* and who is giving out not so helpful advice!

We have been advised to really seriously step up the probiotics prior to and during an attack on the bad bacteria. If you don't put in the good bacteria (in probiotics) to colonise the gut then you have die-off of bad bacteria and then it just recolonises the gut again. There isn't much point in killing off the bad bacteria if you aren't going to replace it with what's healthy! We've also beeen advised to clear out with oxypowder during the treatment in order to flush the bad guys out and keep things moving so the bad bacteria don't fester and regrow.

I'm surprised that your DAN didn't know this as it's pretty basic (even I understand it!!!).

Hope that helps and that it doesn't add to your confusion. That doesn't necessarily mean that you need to find another DAN practitioner but that maybe you can double check his/her advice.

All the best,

Darla

Just spoken to an autism consultant abroad. She says we were given bad advice and should get a different DAN. She feels it's terribly wrong to do Difflucan without probiotics in place. When my Dr gave us Difflucan, I didn't even know yet about probiotics. My son did crash and regress towards end of Difflucan, this lasted quite a while, 2 months approx, initially charcoal helped, but after a few days it made no difference. At the time I thought we had done too much at once, causing regression????

This consultant also says transdermal chelation is harmful/ doesn't work. Better to do oral every 3-4 hours, round the clock.

NCD - she says is good, if you can't do proper chelation, but chelation is the better, more proven way forward?

Does this make sense to anyone? I don't know enough to know who's right.

Very confused

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Just spoken to an autism consultant abroad. She says we were given bad advice and should get a different DAN. She feels it's terribly wrong to do Difflucan without probiotics in place. When my Dr gave us Difflucan, I didn't even know yet about probiotics. My son did crash and regress towards end of Difflucan, this lasted quite a while, 2 months approx, initially charcoal helped, but after a few days it made no difference. At the time I thought we had done too much at once, causing regression????

This consultant also says transdermal chelation is harmful/ doesn't work. Better to do oral every 3-4 hours, round the clock.

NCD - she says is good, if you can't do proper chelation, but chelation is the better, more proven way forward?

Does this make sense to anyone? I don't know enough to know who's right.

Very confused

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What can happen when you give Diflucan on its own, is that it kills

off the yeast overgrowth (which is what you want it to do) but

sometimes you get bad bacterial growth coming in to the fill the

space, which is what it sounds like happened in your case. This

would be why the DAN was suggesting using probios at the same time

to hopefully stop this happening. Is your son ok now?, if not it

might be a good idea to treat for bacterial overgrowth. What i find

that works pretty well here for this, is a short course of Colloidal

Silver, but there are other choices.

Having said the above i must admit that i have given Diflucan (on

DAN advice) without using probios, which worked ok for us, no

regression and producing slight improvement behaviour wise. IMHO

this meant that at the time we probably didn't have any bad bacteria

hanging around to take over (had them since!) but you giving it to

your son was a different story. Either way is probably right, so you

do not necerssarily need to give up on your DAN, but what it has

done is tell you something about your childs physiology, and that he

may be prone to bacterial overgrowth IMO.

We are not chelating so cant advice on that, Mandi is the expert but

she is away at the mo, back at the weekend i think, trying asking

again then, put her name in the subject line so she spots it easily!

Hth, Nikki

>

> Just spoken to an autism consultant abroad. She says we were given

bad advice and should get a different DAN. She feels it's terribly

wrong to do Difflucan without probiotics in place. When my Dr gave

us Difflucan, I didn't even know yet about probiotics. My son did

crash and regress towards end of Difflucan, this lasted quite a

while, 2 months approx, initially charcoal helped, but after a few

days it made no difference. At the time I thought we had done too

much at once, causing regression????

> This consultant also says transdermal chelation is harmful/

doesn't work. Better to do oral every 3-4 hours, round the clock.

> NCD - she says is good, if you can't do proper chelation, but

chelation is the better, more proven way forward?

> Does this make sense to anyone? I don't know enough to know who's

right.

> Very confused

>

>

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Hi Probiotics was one of the first things our DAN put us on -

our kids need them all the time whether giving other things or not. I

think we all do! And a Dan dr should be able to help when a child

crashes. I think use gut instinct and if you don't quite trust the

advice then ask loads of questions and possibly look for another DAN.

The trouble is when they are awful you can spot them but when they

are ok it is more difficult. Oh and I would ask your DAN why he

didn't put your son on probiotics.

Peta -

-- In Autism Treatment , " "

wrote:

>

> Just spoken to an autism consultant abroad. She says we were given

bad advice and should get a different DAN. She feels it's terribly

wrong to do Difflucan without probiotics in place. When my Dr gave us

Difflucan, I didn't even know yet about probiotics. My son did crash

and regress towards end of Difflucan, this lasted quite a while, 2

months approx, initially charcoal helped, but after a few days it

made no difference. At the time I thought we had done too much at

once, causing regression????

> This consultant also says transdermal chelation is harmful/ doesn't

work. Better to do oral every 3-4 hours, round the clock.

> NCD - she says is good, if you can't do proper chelation, but

chelation is the better, more proven way forward?

> Does this make sense to anyone? I don't know enough to know who's

right.

> Very confused

>

>

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hi Nikki, just butting in here, could you please expand on how you give the

short course of colloidal silver? thanks, Josie x

> >

> > Just spoken to an autism consultant abroad. She says we were given

> bad advice and should get a different DAN. She feels it's terribly

> wrong to do Difflucan without probiotics in place. When my Dr gave

> us Difflucan, I didn't even know yet about probiotics. My son did

> crash and regress towards end of Difflucan, this lasted quite a

> while, 2 months approx, initially charcoal helped, but after a few

> days it made no difference. At the time I thought we had done too

> much at once, causing regression????

> > This consultant also says transdermal chelation is harmful/

> doesn't work. Better to do oral every 3-4 hours, round the clock.

> > NCD - she says is good, if you can't do proper chelation, but

> chelation is the better, more proven way forward?

> > Does this make sense to anyone? I don't know enough to know who's

> right.

> > Very confused

> >

> >

>

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Sure Josie,

What i usually do is 5mls morning and evening, so 10mls total a day,

for 5 days. I usually give it in a drink, the flavour is not very

strong and i have a kid that likes to drink anything!!!

You shouldn't give this stuff all the times, cos what in fact you

are doing is putting silver into your child, but i have never had

any probs giving a short course as described above and silver is a

really good antibiotic.

Nikki

- In Autism Treatment , " Josie Wilkinson "

wrote:

>

> hi Nikki, just butting in here, could you please expand on how you

give the

> short course of colloidal silver? thanks, Josie x

>

>

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> This consultant also says transdermal chelation is harmful/ doesn't

work. Better to do oral every 3-4 hours, round the clock.

> NCD - she says is good, if you can't do proper chelation, but

chelation is the better, more proven way forward?

,

I'm not sure how transdermal chelation done at the right intervals and

right dosage could be harmful unless your child reacts badly to the

cream (as opposed to the chelator). I have, however, heard a number

of people say that they felt they wasted their time with TD. Even DANs

are now saying that oral is more effective than TD. It is certainly

cheaper.

As for NCD, I don't really believe that it is a great chelator, if it

is a chelator at all (that is, if it can actually claw out the

sequestered metals) but it is certainly doing something for some kids.

I happen to think that something is either viral of pH related. There

is plenty of evidence to prove that oral chelation done with low

frequent doses is both safe and effective.

It is confusing but you're in a very good place to get help. I

wouldn't trust ANY doctor completely. I think it is important to run

suggestions by other parents first and gather information. Even if you

feel you have a great doc, which, I'm sorry to say, you probably don't

given the bad diflucan advice you got (that stuff is pretty basic). It

sounds like your consultant is a bit better versed.

Anita

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You can buy the colloidal silver from MandiMart.

it's a liqiud and you can give it in 5 ml doses as it's quite dilute.

Also, if it is truely colloidal, then the silver shouldn't be

readily adsorbed by the body and shoud be very safe to use.

> > >

> > > Just spoken to an autism consultant abroad. She says we were

given

> > bad advice and should get a different DAN. She feels it's

terribly

> > wrong to do Difflucan without probiotics in place. When my Dr

gave

> > us Difflucan, I didn't even know yet about probiotics. My son

did

> > crash and regress towards end of Difflucan, this lasted quite a

> > while, 2 months approx, initially charcoal helped, but after a

few

> > days it made no difference. At the time I thought we had done

too

> > much at once, causing regression????

> > > This consultant also says transdermal chelation is harmful/

> > doesn't work. Better to do oral every 3-4 hours, round the clock.

> > > NCD - she says is good, if you can't do proper chelation, but

> > chelation is the better, more proven way forward?

> > > Does this make sense to anyone? I don't know enough to know

who's

> > right.

> > > Very confused

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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thanks for this, I have some good quality coll. at home but have never used it

on Jay, didn't fancy the idea of more metals in him, but think I will give it a

go,

it seems he is struggling with one virus after another, which as I'm sure you

know means regression in our house, thanks again, Josie x

> >

> > hi Nikki, just butting in here, could you please expand on how you

> give the

> > short course of colloidal silver? thanks, Josie x

> >

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What is the name of the DAN you are using

in the UK?

Sally

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Re: Very confused

Just spoken to an autism consultant

abroad. She says we were given bad advice and should get a different DAN. She

feels it's terribly wrong to do Difflucan without probiotics in place. When my

Dr gave us Difflucan, I didn't even know yet about probiotics. My son did crash

and regress towards end of Difflucan, this lasted quite a while, 2 months

approx, initially charcoal helped, but after a few days it made no difference.

At the time I thought we had done too much at once, causing regression????

This consultant also says

transdermal chelation is harmful/ doesn't work. Better to do oral every 3-4

hours, round the clock.

NCD - she says is good, if you can't

do proper chelation, but chelation is the better, more proven way forward?

Does this make sense to anyone? I

don't know enough to know who's right.

Very confused

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Nikki,

What is the strength of colloidal silver that you use? Do you think

that a chronic strep would respond to this? Thanks,

> >

> > hi Nikki, just butting in here, could you please expand on how

you

> give the

> > short course of colloidal silver? thanks, Josie x

> >

> >

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> >

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as well as being anti-bacterial, CS is supposed to be a good anti-

viral and anti-fungal as well so i have heard. I would be

interested to hear if this helps your son.

Nikki

-- In Autism Treatment , " Josie Wilkinson "

wrote:

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>

>

>

>

>

> thanks for this, I have some good quality coll. at home but have

never used it

> on Jay, didn't fancy the idea of more metals in him, but think I

will give it a go,

> it seems he is struggling with one virus after another, which as

I'm sure you

> know means regression in our house, thanks again, Josie x

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The one i have at the mo is the one Mandi stocks, which is 10PPM. I

have also used Source Natural 10ppm CS and thought that was very

good also. Worth a try for strep i would have thought, not something

we suffer from here, but can't see that it would do any harm IMO.

Nikki

-- In Autism Treatment , " mbrookh "

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> Nikki,

> What is the strength of colloidal silver that you use? Do you

think

> that a chronic strep would respond to this? Thanks,

>

>

>

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You'll get different opinions from bypass folks but many band folks will tell you this, The band is adjustable. If you need to lose weight and you aren't, you tighten the band. If you are losing too fast or need extra nutrition for some reason, you loosen the band. It is adjustable to you. If for any reason you need to have the band removed someday, you can. You can't get your intestine back if you want to reverse bypass. It is a safer surgery, less invasive. During bypass surgery they remove intestine to stop you from absorbing food. It stops you from absorbing some nutrients as well. Thus, supplements. Not so with the band. I know one guy that had bypass several years ago, was 700#, lost 350#. Now he can eat a Whopper, large onion rings, and 2 large sodas. He's

looking at being banded now so he can lose the rest of the weight. Bypass is invasive, riskier, and not adjustable. You couldn't pay me to have bypass, but the band? It's mine forever. But remember, you'll get different opinions from bypass folks.abbikadar <abbikadar@...> wrote: Can anyone tell me why it is soo much better to do the lap band rather than the by-pass?Thanks so

much __________________________________________________

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It's actually up to the individual to decide what is best for them in

terms of weight loss surgery. However, lapband is less intrusive

compared to gastric bypass, you are not cutting the stomach and

rerouting the digestive system. Less chances of mortality, less

complications after surgery and shorter recovery time in hospital.

But, there are some disadvantages which should be addressed, there are

chances of erosion, slippage, leakage and possible port

infection...though cases are not great, there have been some people

that have experienced this misfortune. If you are in the research

period might I suggest, Weight Loss Surgery for Dummies, it really

breaks down each surgery. Also, go to Obesityhelp.com for further

information. RNY is a good surgery as well, but there are greater

risks, though not everyone experiences them. There are pros and cons

of every surgery, do your research and speak with as many people as

you can about their experience.

Good Luck!

Kelli

>

> Can anyone tell me why it is soo much better to do the lap band

rather

> than the by-pass?

>

> Thanks so much

>

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Wow - that was better than some of the medical sights I have been on. I have one question though, how is the guy able to eat so much after the bypass?Bipley <mybipley@...> wrote: You'll get different opinions from bypass folks but many band folks will tell you this, The band is adjustable. If you need to lose weight and you aren't, you tighten the band. If you are losing too fast or need extra nutrition for some reason, you loosen the band. It is adjustable to

you. If for any reason you need to have the band removed someday, you can. You can't get your intestine back if you want to reverse bypass. It is a safer surgery, less invasive. During bypass surgery they remove intestine to stop you from absorbing food. It stops you from absorbing some nutrients as well. Thus, supplements. Not so with the band. I know one guy that had bypass several years ago, was 700#, lost 350#. Now he can eat a Whopper, large onion rings, and 2 large sodas. He's looking at being banded now so he can lose the rest of the weight. Bypass is invasive, riskier, and not adjustable. You couldn't pay me to have bypass, but the band? It's mine forever. But remember, you'll get different opinions from bypass

folks.abbikadar <abbikadar > wrote: Can anyone tell me why it is soo much better to do the lap band rather than the by-pass?Thanks so much __________________________________________________

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Abbigail... Check this out: http://health.ucsd.edu/specialties/LapBand/About/options.htm The gastric bypass guy looking to be banded simply over eats. He has stretched out everything and is eating just like he did when he got up to 700#. Very sad.Abbigail Kadar <abbikadar@...> wrote: Wow - that was better than some of the medical

sights I have been on. I have one question though, how is the guy able to eat so much after the bypass?Bipley <mybipley > wrote: You'll get different opinions from bypass folks but many band folks will tell you this, The band is adjustable. If you need to lose weight and you aren't, you tighten the band. If you are losing too fast or need extra nutrition for some reason, you loosen the band. It is adjustable to you. If for any reason you need to have the band removed someday, you can. You can't get your intestine back if you want to reverse bypass. It is a safer surgery, less invasive. During bypass surgery they remove intestine to stop you from absorbing

food. It stops you from absorbing some nutrients as well. Thus, supplements. Not so with the band. I know one guy that had bypass several years ago, was 700#, lost 350#. Now he can eat a Whopper, large onion rings, and 2 large sodas. He's looking at being banded now so he can lose the rest of the weight. Bypass is invasive, riskier, and not adjustable. You couldn't pay me to have bypass, but the band? It's mine forever. But remember, you'll get different opinions from bypass folks.abbikadar <abbikadar > wrote: Can anyone tell me why it is soo much better to do the lap band rather than the by-pass?Thanks so much __________________________________________________

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Thank you very much - that was very helpful. I will check out those websites.Kelli <psichikel@...> wrote: It's actually up to the individual to decide what is best for them in terms of weight loss surgery. However, lapband is less intrusive compared to gastric bypass, you are not cutting the stomach and rerouting the digestive system. Less chances of mortality, less complications after surgery and shorter recovery time in hospital. But, there are some disadvantages which should be addressed,

there are chances of erosion, slippage, leakage and possible port infection...though cases are not great, there have been some people that have experienced this misfortune. If you are in the research period might I suggest, Weight Loss Surgery for Dummies, it really breaks down each surgery. Also, go to Obesityhelp.com for further information. RNY is a good surgery as well, but there are greater risks, though not everyone experiences them. There are pros and cons of every surgery, do your research and speak with as many people as you can about their experience. Good Luck!Kelli>> Can anyone tell me why it is soo much better to do the lap band rather > than the by-pass?> > Thanks so

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Just as everyone has stated it is different for each person and there

are many pros and cons. I can tell you that one of my " pros " for the

band was that I want to get pregnant in the near future. It is very

hard to get the nutrition that you need during pregnancy if you have

by-pass. For me, I will just get " un-filled " and then after the baby,

get filled again.

Cyrena Weeks

DOB: 1/19/07

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> Can anyone tell me why it is soo much better to do the lap band rather

> than the by-pass?

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> Thanks so much

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