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It really depends on you and your discussions with the doctor.

The lap band is less invasive, about 30 minutes under, but you do have

to get fills. But in the end you still accomplish the same thing

Gastric by pass is more invasive of a surgery so it is about 3 hours,

and of course no feels, I suspect a bit more caution with it as well

because you are healing on the inside.

For me: I would have loved the band. But gastric by pass is better

for me (I believe) because I have another diease and this other

diease limits my foods and the GBP will limit my foods to very similar

to how I should eat 60/40 protein/carbs, this is common for both

patients actually in the beginning, but for me it will be for life

because of the food limitation (in other words if it is good, I'm not

allowed to eat it because of my bladder problem i.e., chocolate, sugar

free anything, coffee, even decaf, most fruits except pears and

blueberries ans so much more that I promise you never want to hear about.

Bottom line, which after you do all your research best fits your life

style and gives you the greatest succcess with you weight loss

journey. You and only you (well maybe you and your DR) can make this

decision.

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What is the strength of colloidal silver that you use? Do you think that a chronic strep would respond to this? Thanks,

>>I wouldn;t use anything higher than 10ppm with these kids and it has to be good quality and very very small particle size - I find it highly effective and after 2 years of diddling about was glad I did it. We don't do it very often and nobody ASD or not should use this stuff continually IMHO and that of many others.

Source Naturals is good brand if you are in the US or Trimedica Silva Solution, they are my favs. Trimedica works out less expensive

Mandi in UK

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Why the lap band over the by pass??? I personally know people who died with the by pass. I know others who have had major complications. One of the common complications is blood clots. The surgery is much longer, recovery is much longer, pain is much worse, cost is a lot more. By pass is NOT reversible where the lap band is. I am sure there are reasons I left out. For me it is a no brainer. Good luck in your decision.abbikadar <abbikadar@...> wrote: Can anyone tell me why it is soo

much better to do the lap band rather than the by-pass?Thanks so much __________________________________________________

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My first thought is to lodge a formal complaint with the head of the department at 's Hopkins about the doctor that you saw. that was about as unprofessional as you can get. One certainly can't make any informed decisions on having surgery with a specific doctor without hearing what the doctor has to say. The repsonse from this doc is inappropriate and needs to be reported. That being said you are in a quandry about what to do and who to use. My suggestion is to get more opinions. One really can't have too many before making a decision to have surgery of this kind and it isn't always the ones at the leading hospitals that you should use and I know that from experience. Before I had my surgery for stenosis last june, and it was lumbar, I saw quite a few docs for other opinions before having the surgery done. I saw them at the leading hospitals in

Boston MA and came away totally unimpressed believe me. they where nice, but business like, gave their opinions and they didn't all agree with each other. I had some say I should wait till I was so crippled that I needed a wheelchair for surgery and I wasn't that bad. that doc wasn't interested in hearing that I had no life and was already crippled in agony and if it went on I wanted to commit suicide. What I did find was neurosurgeons where not the ones I wanted to use. All they wanted to do was the most extensive surgery with the biggest incisions and with the old methods. Orthopedics didn smaller incisions and where more personable than the neurosurgeons, which have no personality, but again liked big cutting and surgery. The best I found to use where sports medicine orthopedic surgeons. They where the most up to date on new techniques, did the least cutting required to do the surgery and did

as little surgery as needed. I chose a sports medicine spinal surgeon for my surgery and one from a small hospital. Never regretted the decision either. My suggestion to you is to get a few more opinions and stay away from anyone that is associated with any of the docs you have already seen. Be sure to bring all your records and MRI's and make sure they will discuss with you your case and what they would suggest, just so you don't get a repeat of what you had happen at 's Hopkins. See if you can see a sports medicine orthopedic surgeon that specializes in your specific problem. Don't be afraid to get 6 or more opinions. remember this is your life and body you are talking about, not someone elses. Get all the risks and advise possible. I wasn't afraid to get 8 opinions, plus the one I originally had. I figured that if they where going to play around in my spine,

then I'm going to get as many opinions as I need to get to be sure what I was going to do was the right thing to do. Also, always bring someone else along with you to hear everything that the doctor has to say and ask any other questions you might not have thought of. It's a great help. I always had at least one other person with me, usually 2. Only one doctor had a problem with them with me and as far as I was concerned that was too bad for the doctor. when I made my decision to have surgery and which doctor to use, we sort of had a party in his office. My husband and daughter where with me, my best friend, who is a nurse was there, and elderly neighbor who is a retired nurse was with me and i was there. there was alot of laughter about the number of people in the room, but at the same time, they all had questions that I didn't have, didn't understand something that was said and it was made more

clear even for me. The night before my surgery, my daughter called the doc with a few more questions and he called back and he talked with my son who lives out of state. He had no objection to talking to anyone that I said was fine to talk with. His feeling was, the more relaxed the patient, family and friends are, the easier his job is and my reovery will be quicker. that's the kind of doctor to find and I'm sure if you see a few other docs for opinions you will be able to find one too. Good luck and let us know how you make out. Franmylak <mylak@...> wrote: In December I was diagnosed with spinal stenosis with spinal compression in the cervical C4-7 area. I was told I should have surgery, to be very careful becuase I could because I could become paralyzed. One surgeon wanted to do a double surgery- disc removal first through the front of the neck, one month later bone removal through the back. I went for a second opinion out of the area- that dr said it was "elective" surgery- disc removal through the front; not to worry- to go skiing if I want- he even wrote me a script for traction on my neck. I deceided to go to s Hopkins(quite a distance from where I live) for a 3rd opinion. That dr didn't even look at my MRi's even though I overnighted them 3 wks earlier; he also said the surgery was "elective" and wouldn't even discuss it with me

until I told him I was going to have it.I am very confused. Other than a few minor aches and pains, some daily headaches at the base of my neck, and some numbness in my arm & hands ant night sometimes, I don't have a lot of symptoms. I kmow I will have the surgery- but who, where, & what?

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>I've never had so much run around and oversight as I have with

stenosis. Doctors and I have argued because pain was just too

unbearable to accept half witted confusion or dismissal. I mean no

disrespect towards Dr.'s, but they seem to be so scattered anymore. I

too have been told to be careful because of paralizing resutls, and

my MRI's are conclusive and pretty advanced in it's chronic

situation.. why did it take me so many years and Dr.'s before I got

one that actually oredered them, looked at them and found even more

advanced stuff yet to effect me.. I know a lot of it is insurance

situations, and I finally have a Dr. that takes this as serious, and

tlaks to me and looks into it greatly. I got so sick of being

dismissed I lost faith in Dr.s... I have to wonder how certain things

are being taught.. I dont mean to sound rough on them, but so much

time and money have been wasted on many of them and half looked at ,

immediate top of the mind diagnoses.. I hope you find the Dr. right

for your situation before any light aches and pains become worse. It

is important, and your not alone in your confusion, I've been there

and it shouldn't have to be..

Andy

> In December I was diagnosed with spinal stenosis with spinal

> compression in the cervical C4-7 area. I was told I should have

> surgery, to be very careful becuase I could because I could become

> paralyzed. One surgeon wanted to do a double surgery- disc removal

> first through the front of the neck, one month later bone removal

> through the back. I went for a second opinion out of the area-

that dr

> said it was " elective " surgery- disc removal through the front; not

to

> worry- to go skiing if I want- he even wrote me a script for

traction

> on my neck. I deceided to go to s Hopkins(quite a distance

from

> where I live) for a 3rd opinion. That dr didn't even look at my

MRi's

> even though I overnighted them 3 wks earlier; he also said the

surgery

> was " elective " and wouldn't even discuss it with me until I told

him I

> was going to have it.

> I am very confused. Other than a few minor aches and pains, some

daily

> headaches at the base of my neck, and some numbness in my arm &

hands

> ant night sometimes, I don't have a lot of symptoms.

>

> I kmow I will have the surgery- but who, where, & what?

>

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I think you need to read the Files section on the left side of this

page. Andy Cutler is a PhD chemist with his own history of mercury

toxicity who has offered a chelation protocol based on science and

not convenience, false hope, stardom or financial gain. In a

nutshell, the Cutler Protocol uses low doses and frequent dosing of

chelators. He is an active member of this group (andrewhallcutler).

Quite a few parents here don't consult doctors anymore (if ever).

Chelators are available without a prescription (DMSA and ALA). I

still have a DAN! doctor to keep me motivated, but I see them once

per year. Honestly, I've never followed their chelation advice

(they've been OK with that), but rather used Andy's protocol. Not

very many DAN! doctors will do that... but they seem to be getting

better. Andy doesn't hold back his criticism and egos have been

crushed. You will find an entire group where his name isn't

allowed to be mentioned! Funny, though, I'd guess close to 1/4 of

the parents on that list quietly use his protocol.

If you are interested, Andy has written a few books to help guide us

through the maze:

http:\\www.noamalgam.com

Pam

>

> Don't you need a Dr. to tell you how to chelate and to give a

> prescription. Sorry if this is a stupid question but reading some

of

> these posts has gotten me quite confused and what is the Andy

protocol?

>

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> Don't you need a Dr. to tell you how to chelate and to give a

> prescription.

I chelated all four of my kids with ALA, which does not require a

prescription or a doctor.

Dana

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Well the doctors don't know how to chelate. And the dmsa and ala are

both sold as supplements.

Happily chelating myself and two kids without a doc. The doc knew

nothing about it. Andy is as much a doc as any, probably more so.

>

> Don't you need a Dr. to tell you how to chelate and to give a

> prescription. Sorry if this is a stupid question but reading some of

> these posts has gotten me quite confused and what is the Andy

protocol?

>

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> > Don't you need a Dr. to tell you how to chelate and to give a

> > prescription. Sorry if this is a stupid question but reading some of

> > these posts has gotten me quite confused and what is the Andy

> protocol?

> >

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> Don't you need a Dr. to tell you how to chelate and to give a

> prescription.

DMSA and ALA are available without prescriptions, and apparently I

needed a Dr. to help me make my kid autistic. I need someone who has

some clue what he/she is doing to help me help my kid get better. I

don't give a you-know-what what letters follow his/her name, just

that what is suggested makes sense and works. That person is Andy.

If you want a doctor on board, Andy has made a few recommendations in

the past. If you would give your general whereabouts, maybe someone

will have a name for you.

> Sorry if this is a stupid question but reading some of

> these posts has gotten me quite confused and what is the Andy

protocol?

Low frequent dose of DMSA and/or DMPS (generally DMSA, since it both

chelates lead and is available OTC, always 1/8-1/2 mg per lb, and

always dosed according to the half life of the chelator so that blood

levels remain consistent for at least three days on and at least as

much time off as on), ultimately with ALA (also 1/8 to 1/2 mg per lb

dosed according to ALA's half life, which is 3 hours, for at least

three days on and at least as much time off as on) to remove mercury

from the brain and intracellular places that the DMSA and DMPS can't

reach.

There is lots of information available in the files. See

specifically the " Love Letters " file, which will redirect you to

Moria's website where she has compiled tons of very

informative " Andy " posts.

Anne

Anne

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I have twin 3 year old girls that were diagnosed last year as PDD-

NOS. One of them was doing alot of echolia, low eye contact and some

minor stimming. Now she is very verbal. Don't know what she is saying

when she gets mad now. She still has a language delay compared to the

others her age. Her eye contact is good, social skills good, no

diarhea or constipation. The other twin was more severe. Extreme

speech delay. She is saying a few words now, eye contact and social

skils are good even with strangers, definitly can be hyper sometimes

but isn't that age appropriate. She will wear clothes now and the

only sensory thing is she sleeps with her blanket stuffed in her

mouth.

I have had them on Houston enzymes since the end of January. I have

been adding other supplements like OLE, GFE, Lysine, B-6, Omega

3,6,9, Cod liver oil, colostrum, vit e & c, zinc, DHA, L-acetyl

carnitine, DMG, Threelac. They had a rash on their butts for 2 years.

Thought it was yeast, viral or food allergy. No food allergies that I

can see. Finally found out it was Staph. Now it is gone. My dilemma

is besides the speech delay they are normal. No stimming, no diahrea

or constipation, no yeast rashes-never had one, no tandrums-besides

the typical 3 year old that won;t no for an answer. I tried the GFCF

diet no changes so that is when I started the enzymes. A few days

they did not get any extra supplements- basically I was too sick to

give them. I did not see any changes. The only change I have seen

recently is when the more severe twin got a high fever and stopped

saying the words and signing she had started since starting preschool

2 weeks ago. I am hoping when she goes back to preschool tomorrow it

will all come back. They have been out of school this past week for

Spring break.

I am going to take them to a DAN doctor in a few months. I am

questioning -do they really have a problem since I hear twins are

always delayed plus they have 2 older siblings who they interact and

play with very well. I read so many posts reagrding other kids having

so many problems. Don't get me wrong I am grateful my girls are mild

on the spectrum. I just at a loss right now. I work full time so I am

not with them during the day but their father does not say are acting

out in any way that is not typical. I am always reading about diets

make a big difference. I struggle getting them to eat period. Usually

1 bite of 2 of the 3 things I give them for dinner. If I am lucky

they will more of something they really like- bacan or eggs.

Do I stop the supplements and see what happens? Try something else?

Am I not seeing something?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sorry to make this post so

long.

April

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> I have twin 3 year old girls that were diagnosed last year as PDD-

> NOS. One of them was doing alot of echolia, low eye contact and some

> minor stimming. Now she is very verbal. Don't know what she is saying

> when she gets mad now. She still has a language delay compared to the

> others her age.

What my son needed for language is written here

http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm

> only sensory thing is she sleeps with her blanket stuffed in her

> mouth.

My #1 did that, it caused a LOT of teeth problems. Consider food

intolerances and/or yeast overgrowth.

> I have had them on Houston enzymes since the end of January. I have

> been adding other supplements like OLE, GFE, Lysine, B-6, Omega

> 3,6,9, Cod liver oil, colostrum, vit e & c, zinc, DHA, L-acetyl

> carnitine, DMG, Threelac.

You have a lot of things here that tend to increase yeast, and almost

no yeast fighters. Try adding biotin and magnesium.

Dana

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