Re: Asperger meltdowns in puberty?

[Guest guest]

Hi

I don't post on this group either but I do want to respond. yes My daughter

had a very difficult puberty and the hormone changes can put much stress on

our children. Is it possible your son has Lyme Disease?Our Dr. , Dr. K says

children who have Lyme can often get along fairly well and if vaccinations

don't push them over...then often puberty will. This was certainly the case

for our daughter. The good news is now, at age 19 she is really a wonderful

lovely person to live with.....but there were days i wondered if I could

make it through.

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 7:36 PM, mcdmcd888 <margaret.d888@...> wrote:

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> Hi, I haven't posted anything yet. Just kind of been reading and trying to

> figure out where I need to go with things.

>

> My son was diagnosed at age 4 with sensory integration dysfunction and had

> a formal IQ test which came up quite high. The child psych at that time also

> said 'possible Aspergers' in her office notes and in person. At the time, I

> didn't think it was a fit because he seemed ok with kids 1-on-1 (social

> skills). However, the group dynamic in school apparently was where all of

> the sensory input might have been too much for him as he's never really made

> friends or kept them easily unless I suggest to him (push him, really) to

> invite one of them over. Then, they become more friendly. But, still,

> nothing too often. He doesn't seek it out; never has. He's 12 now, and it

> seems he'd rather be alone on the computer playing video games.

>

> He was diagnosed with OCD around age 7 when he would not stop counting

> things and verbalized that he didn't like counting, but felt like he had to

> do it. He went through therapy for that. There were some very bizarre

> behaviors there, no time to detail all of them.

>

> Throughout all of this, I'd say that his meltdowns were pretty extreme when

> he was younger. He actually is an extremely well-behaved boy and calm ...

> but, then, he'd hit some sort of sensory overload thing by afternoon and go

> whacko. Couldn't stop crying usually about something and nothing, NOTHING

> you could do to console him. The screaming would go on for an hour. It

> seemed that brushing and compressions (getting to the proprioceptive sense)

> really did help regulate that stuff. But, we didn't need to do it after he

> was around age 5 or 6. Instead, we would just walk to school with a heavy

> backpack and therapist said that was enough to get to the proprioceptive

> sense.

>

> Anyway, he's always seemed odd/different to other kids, and I know he has

> felt like an outsider ... but he's gotten good grades in school. But, now

> he's having these meltdowns again, and they are horrible. They occur only

> about once/month, but for the past few years they were only once/year. Why

> are they back? I think it is due to puberty coming on ... stress of body

> changes, hormones, possibly? And, I have to say that he's not exercising. No

> PE at school. I think he did ok when I had him at the gym this summer, but I

> can't remember if he had NO meltdowns this summer or not. Shoot. Wish I

> could remember, but I think not.

>

> So, sorry for the long history, and I know I've left out some important

> stuff (like his coma-like sleep funks that went on for days due to

> constipation this past year, and his recent bed-wetting ... twice this

> month? Yeast? What's up with that at age 12??).

>

> I started treating him with Coromega, Pearl Acidophilus, multi-vitamin,

> Calcium/Magnesium, Native Remedie's Digestive Tonic, Vit D3 (5,000 iu's/day)

> and a few other things that I've since dropped. We just added Biotin this

> week to the protocol. He takes 1 melatonin at night with the

> Calcium/Magnesium to get to sleep, otherwise he has insomnia. He is not

> allowed to ingest dairy (milk, cheese).

>

> Anyone have a child like this? Anyone had to deal with extreme anger

> outbursts/meltdowns that increase during puberty? Anyone had to deal with

> sudden bed wetting that has been gone for a long while?

>

> His voice has not changed yet and I don't see hair growth, so this has to

> be pre-puberty.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Throughout all of this, I'd say that his meltdowns were pretty extreme when he

was younger. He actually is an extremely well-behaved boy and calm ... but,

then, he'd hit some sort of sensory overload thing by afternoon and go whacko.

Couldn't stop crying usually about something and nothing, NOTHING you could do

to console him. The screaming would go on for an hour.

This sounds like yeast overgrowth.

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

> So, sorry for the long history, and I know I've left out some important stuff

(like his coma-like sleep funks that went on for days due to constipation this

past year, and his recent bed-wetting ... twice this month? Yeast? What's up

with that at age 12??).

Yep, yeast.

Dana

[Guest guest]

This sounds so much like my older son (technically NT). For my son the sensory

stuff and meltdowns you describe are caused by high blood histamine levels. One

of the things histamine does is to set the volume controls on sensory input in

the brain (and yes, this includes the exact things you are describing such as

the feel of hair on the pillow). It also plays a big role in emotional

regulation and my son will go into these extreme meltdowns or rages over

NOTHING, just as you are describing. This would explain why it is happening

now, because histamine builds up in the blood when the body can't methylate it

fast enough, and methylation is how the body regulates hormones. One possibility

is that he undermethelates, another is that his methylation system is over

burdened (yeast is a big culprit for this).

You can have a blood test done to see what his blood histamine level is. Many

foods are high histamine, and there is often an allergic/addictive thing with

histamine foods, so if you tell me what your son likes to eat that might be

indicative. Also, I would suspect this if there is substance abuse in the

family or any mental health issues, bipolar disorder, allergies, eczema, or

asthma. Here is a post on my blog about how we have addressed histamine issues.

The problem is now almost completely gone!

http://roosclues.blogspot.com/2009/09/histadelia-and-low-histamine-diet.html

HTH, Sierra

> > Throughout all of this, I'd say that his meltdowns were pretty extreme when

he was younger. He actually is an extremely well-behaved boy and calm ... but,

then, he'd hit some sort of sensory overload thing by afternoon and go whacko.

Couldn't stop crying usually about something and nothing, NOTHING you could do

to console him. The screaming would go on for an hour.

>

>

> This sounds like yeast overgrowth.

>

> http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

>

>

> > So, sorry for the long history, and I know I've left out some important

stuff (like his coma-like sleep funks that went on for days due to constipation

this past year, and his recent bed-wetting ... twice this month? Yeast? What's

up with that at age 12??).

>

>

> Yep, yeast.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry I realized the example of being bothered by the sound of hair on the

pillow was a different post!

-Sierra

> > > Throughout all of this, I'd say that his meltdowns were pretty extreme

when he was younger. He actually is an extremely well-behaved boy and calm ...

but, then, he'd hit some sort of sensory overload thing by afternoon and go

whacko. Couldn't stop crying usually about something and nothing, NOTHING you

could do to console him. The screaming would go on for an hour.

> >

> >

> > This sounds like yeast overgrowth.

> >

> > http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

> >

> >

> > > So, sorry for the long history, and I know I've left out some important

stuff (like his coma-like sleep funks that went on for days due to constipation

this past year, and his recent bed-wetting ... twice this month? Yeast? What's

up with that at age 12??).

> >

> >

> > Yep, yeast.

> >

> > Dana

> >

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