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Hi!

I've been on this list for a long time, but so far I've only been a

reader. I need some help with something that has been stumping me.

My NT almost 2 yr old daughter was developing exactly on time. When

she got her 15 mo shots (HIB and DTaP)(I had refused some others, but

was bullied into these), she stopped talking. We watched her regress

in front of our eyes. (Her brother is 3 and ASD, and until lately was

totally non verbal). Now I realize both of my children are vaccine

damaged and neither one will ever receive another shot. We have been

on the SCD since Oct. 07. Now she is talking a lot! All the time!

We also saw her stop growing completely after shots, (she grew

neither in height nor weight for over 9 months). Since SCD she is

growing both in height and weight.

BUT

Two weeks after her shots she developed a low grade fever that

persisted for a month on and off. Now since then this fever returns

randomly for a couple of days. It accompanies bright red cheeks and

a very distressed disposition. She also wakes up screaming and

posturing over her stomach at night. By the time I decide we should

go in to the doctor, it all disappears. The only thing that seems to

help are some homeopathic drops that are for minor infections. The

problem is it ALWAYS comes back.

Any ideas? Can you have a virus that just keeps popping up?

Thank you so much!

Tonja - Mom to 3 yr old ASD and almost 2 yr old NT

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FYI,

This doesn't help you now, but it might help someone else who reads your post.

The DTaP shot has " trace " amounts of thimerisol in it. At the 3 doses

recommended by 2 yrs. old, that is a lot of thimerisol.

If someone does want to vaccinate, they can get a prescription for " thimerisol

free " vaccines.

I don't know why they are still calling the shots mercury free.

Kelley :)

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Hi!

I've been on this list for a long time, but so far I've only been a

reader. I need some help with something that has been stumping me.

My NT almost 2 yr old daughter was developing exactly on time. When

she got her 15 mo shots (HIB and DTaP)(I had refused some others, but

was bullied into these), she stopped talking. We watched her regress

in front of our eyes. (Her brother is 3 and ASD, and until lately was

totally non verbal). Now I realize both of my children are vaccine

damaged and neither one will ever receive another shot. We have been

on the SCD since Oct. 07. Now she is talking a lot! All the time!

We also saw her stop growing completely after shots, (she grew

neither in height nor weight for over 9 months). Since SCD she is

growing both in height and weight.

BUT

Two weeks after her shots she developed a low grade fever that

persisted for a month on and off. Now since then this fever returns

randomly for a couple of days. It accompanies bright red cheeks and

a very distressed disposition. She also wakes up screaming and

posturing over her stomach at night. By the time I decide we should

go in to the doctor, it all disappears. The only thing that seems to

help are some homeopathic drops that are for minor infections. The

problem is it ALWAYS comes back.

Any ideas? Can you have a virus that just keeps popping up?

Thank you so much!

Tonja - Mom to 3 yr old ASD and almost 2 yr old NT

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Hi Tonja-

My 10 yr old son has had the same annoying virus with a low grade

fever (100.3F)coming and going for 9 months now. He had it again

last week and is still in bed today. It wipes him (and me) out. I

believe it is a virus (maybe from a vacination)or maybe the Lyme

virus, but with his damaged gut he is not strong enough to fight it

off. We have been using digestive enzymes for 3 months now, but

this virus isn't going away.

I am taking him to a new DAN! dr tomorrow and asking for lots of

tests. We are also doing the Yasko genetic test the next day. Her

approach is focused on the removal of viruses and bacteria from the

child's body. I am desperate to get rid of this virus. Every time

it hits, it weakens him a little bit more.

Maybe if your daughter is stronger than my son, you could work up to

using Enzymedica's ViraStop. I have heard people have good results

with that. You can find more information about treating viruses on

the website www.enzymestuff.com

Please let me know what works for you!

Liz

>

> Hi!

>

> I've been on this list for a long time, but so far I've only been

a

> reader. I need some help with something that has been stumping me.

>

> My NT almost 2 yr old daughter was developing exactly on time.

When

> she got her 15 mo shots (HIB and DTaP)(I had refused some others,

but

> was bullied into these), she stopped talking. We watched her

regress

> in front of our eyes. (Her brother is 3 and ASD, and until lately

was

> totally non verbal). Now I realize both of my children are

vaccine

> damaged and neither one will ever receive another shot. We have

been

> on the SCD since Oct. 07. Now she is talking a lot! All the time!

>

> We also saw her stop growing completely after shots, (she grew

> neither in height nor weight for over 9 months). Since SCD she is

> growing both in height and weight.

>

> BUT

>

> Two weeks after her shots she developed a low grade fever that

> persisted for a month on and off. Now since then this fever

returns

> randomly for a couple of days. It accompanies bright red cheeks

and

> a very distressed disposition. She also wakes up screaming and

> posturing over her stomach at night. By the time I decide we

should

> go in to the doctor, it all disappears. The only thing that seems

to

> help are some homeopathic drops that are for minor infections.

The

> problem is it ALWAYS comes back.

>

> Any ideas? Can you have a virus that just keeps popping up?

>

> Thank you so much!

> Tonja - Mom to 3 yr old ASD and almost 2 yr old NT

>

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>>We have been

> on the SCD since Oct. 07. Now she is talking a lot! All the time!

Try adding biotin, and consider chelation and anti-virals.

> We also saw her stop growing completely after shots, (she grew

> neither in height nor weight for over 9 months). Since SCD she is

> growing both in height and weight.

Try adding carnitine.

> Any ideas? Can you have a virus that just keeps popping up?

My son had a cold once, and I watched the virus migrate directly into

his brain.

Viruses can be resident in the body, and it takes anti-virals to

eliminate them. So yes, it can " pop up " on and off. I used OLE,

Virastop, vitamin C, and lysine to eliminate viruses at my house. The

vitamin C and lysine were required to keep viruses out of my son's brain.

Dana

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Thank you so much for everyone who has been replying. I've been

studying up on the enzyme stuff website- thanks!

How much OLE would I give a almost 2yr old who is only 24 pounds?

And I've heard Dana mention biotin so much-...what kind of dose for

that?

Also I forgot to mention she takes Nu-thera, and Tri-enza-- so she is

getting some no-phenol. Is virastop a lot better then no-phenol?

I've spent so much time focusing on treatments for my little ASD guy,

I feel this virus thing has been going on WAY too long.

Thank you so much!

Tonja- Mom to 3yr old ASD, and almost 2 yr old NT

> >>We have been

> > on the SCD since Oct. 07. Now she is talking a lot! All the

time!

>

>

> Try adding biotin, and consider chelation and anti-virals.

>

>

> > We also saw her stop growing completely after shots, (she grew

> > neither in height nor weight for over 9 months). Since SCD she

is

> > growing both in height and weight.

>

>

> Try adding carnitine.

>

>

> > Any ideas? Can you have a virus that just keeps popping up?

>

>

> My son had a cold once, and I watched the virus migrate directly

into

> his brain.

>

> Viruses can be resident in the body, and it takes anti-virals to

> eliminate them. So yes, it can " pop up " on and off. I used OLE,

> Virastop, vitamin C, and lysine to eliminate viruses at my house.

The

> vitamin C and lysine were required to keep viruses out of my son's

brain.

>

> Dana

>

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I could have written much of that about my son, now 5 when he was 2

going on 3. He's done very well on Valtrex. No stunning night & day

turn around but he has not had any seizures since we started Valtrex

and he was downed by a virus every month for 7-12 days with petit mal

seizure activity. Having said that theValtrex calm lead us to believe

that we havd not found " the " virus, though we believe he fits the

viral/yeast profile. We asked to be tested for Lyme last fall, though

we did not have a tick bite that we knew of though I'd read some info

on ABMD Board. He tested positive. We are still on DAN, still on

Valtrex but also working down that Lyme path now. In exploring Lyme

we're testing other members of the family as well. I've discovered

that I have it, my older daughter does not (supposedly.) I don't know

about my husband or baby yet. Perhaps you'll visit some of the Lyme

boards, or LIA http://www.lymeinducedautism.com/

I hope you don't have it but for us we feel like " well, at least we

know " and we can chase it down. Truly I also feel like can't this kid

catch a break?

Good luck.

>

> Hi!

>

> I've been on this list for a long time, but so far I've only been a

> reader. I need some help with something that has been stumping me.

>

> My NT almost 2 yr old daughter was developing exactly on time.

When

> she got her 15 mo shots (HIB and DTaP)(I had refused some others,

but

> was bullied into these), she stopped talking. We watched her

regress

> in front of our eyes. (Her brother is 3 and ASD, and until lately

was

> totally non verbal). Now I realize both of my children are vaccine

> damaged and neither one will ever receive another shot. We have

been

> on the SCD since Oct. 07. Now she is talking a lot! All the time!

>

> We also saw her stop growing completely after shots, (she grew

> neither in height nor weight for over 9 months). Since SCD she is

> growing both in height and weight.

>

> BUT

>

> Two weeks after her shots she developed a low grade fever that

> persisted for a month on and off. Now since then this fever

returns

> randomly for a couple of days. It accompanies bright red cheeks

and

> a very distressed disposition. She also wakes up screaming and

> posturing over her stomach at night. By the time I decide we

should

> go in to the doctor, it all disappears. The only thing that seems

to

> help are some homeopathic drops that are for minor infections. The

> problem is it ALWAYS comes back.

>

> Any ideas? Can you have a virus that just keeps popping up?

>

> Thank you so much!

> Tonja - Mom to 3 yr old ASD and almost 2 yr old NT

>

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> How much OLE would I give a almost 2yr old who is only 24 pounds?

I would start with 100-250mg per day.

> And I've heard Dana mention biotin so much-...what kind of dose for

> that?

I would start with 400mcg.

> Also I forgot to mention she takes Nu-thera, and Tri-enza-- so she is

> getting some no-phenol. Is virastop a lot better then no-phenol?

It is totally different. Virastop addresses viruses, and should be

given on an empty stomach. No-Fenol can address yeast if given on an

empty stomach. If you give No-Fenol with food, it will address the

phenol issues of the foods

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

Dana

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