Question regarding enzymes and self stimulatory behavior

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I attended a seminar with , and have both books.

Last year I saw great improvements with my son as I put him on

Enzymes. I used Houston brand. I had to use them all the time. I

also started using probiotics and Coromega, along with vitamins.

The difference was incredible and I do not believe die off was an

issue at all.

After the conference, when I ran out of Houstons, I put on

Digest Gold nad Glutenease. His stimming has actually returned...not

as bad but I suppose I am dealing with die off now since they are a

more powerful Enzyme??

I read about Bacteria, and tried giving him two Glutenease between

meals and no Digest Gold and that seemed to really go well..No

stimming.

I suppose now Im confused on what to do next. Should I treat him as

he has a bacteria issue. Not sure if he has a yeast issue....no

symptoms in the book match him. Could Digest Gold be too powerful

for him? Or should I wait it out for 2 weeks for the die off. I

have not purchased any yeast fighting enzymes as again, Im not sure

if he has a yeast issue. Or maybe he is sensitive to Papain? SHould

I use Glutenease and go back to AFP Peptizes?

Any insight would be very helpful! Enzymes have been a god sent. My

husband did comment to me the other day that he does not stim until

he takes Digest Gold...

Thoughts?

Kathy

[Guest guest]

> After the conference, when I ran out of Houstons, I put on

> Digest Gold nad Glutenease. His stimming has actually returned...not

> as bad but I suppose I am dealing with die off now since they are a

> more powerful Enzyme??

It is possible, or it is possible that he does better with the HNI.

Usually there is a 3 week adjustment period. If after 3 weeks he is

not improving again, try going back to the HNI.

> I read about Bacteria, and tried giving him two Glutenease between

> meals and no Digest Gold and that seemed to really go well..No

> stimming.

He might not tolerate an ingredient in the Digest Gold.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thanks Dana, ok maybe I will stop Digest gold and go from there!

Kathy

Re: Question regarding enzymes and self stimulatory

behavior

> After the conference, when I ran out of Houstons, I put on

> Digest Gold nad Glutenease. His stimming has actually returned...not

> as bad but I suppose I am dealing with die off now since they are a

> more powerful Enzyme??

It is possible, or it is possible that he does better with the HNI.

Usually there is a 3 week adjustment period. If after 3 weeks he is

not improving again, try going back to the HNI.

> I read about Bacteria, and tried giving him two Glutenease between

> meals and no Digest Gold and that seemed to really go well..No

> stimming.

He might not tolerate an ingredient in the Digest Gold.

Dana

[Guest guest]

hi Kathy

I work for enzymedica's education department. Digest Gold is a very

potent enzyme. You can try giving him 1/2 a capsule instead of a

whole one. If you would like I can send you Digest samples. Digest

Gold is 3x more potent than Digest. If you would like I can send you

some samples of Digest. Feel free to ask me any questions.

Alessandra

>

> Hi,

> I attended a seminar with , and have both books.

>

> Last year I saw great improvements with my son as I put him

on

> Enzymes. I used Houston brand. I had to use them all the time. I

> also started using probiotics and Coromega, along with vitamins.

> The difference was incredible and I do not believe die off was an

> issue at all.

>

> After the conference, when I ran out of Houstons, I put on

> Digest Gold nad Glutenease. His stimming has actually

returned...not

> as bad but I suppose I am dealing with die off now since they are a

> more powerful Enzyme??

>

> I read about Bacteria, and tried giving him two Glutenease between

> meals and no Digest Gold and that seemed to really go well..No

> stimming.

>

> I suppose now Im confused on what to do next. Should I treat him

as

> he has a bacteria issue. Not sure if he has a yeast issue....no

> symptoms in the book match him. Could Digest Gold be too powerful

> for him? Or should I wait it out for 2 weeks for the die off. I

> have not purchased any yeast fighting enzymes as again, Im not

sure

> if he has a yeast issue. Or maybe he is sensitive to Papain?

SHould

> I use Glutenease and go back to AFP Peptizes?

>

> Any insight would be very helpful! Enzymes have been a god sent.

My

> husband did comment to me the other day that he does not stim until

> he takes Digest Gold...

>

> Thoughts?

>

> Kathy

>

[Guest guest]

thanks! That would be great...I just thought more powerful the better lol and

so that is not always the case! I would love samples of Digest .....

my email is k.darrow@... and I will give you my address.

Kathy

Re: Question regarding enzymes and self stimulatory

behavior

hi Kathy

I work for enzymedica's education department. Digest Gold is a very

potent enzyme. You can try giving him 1/2 a capsule instead of a

whole one. If you would like I can send you Digest samples. Digest

Gold is 3x more potent than Digest. If you would like I can send you

some samples of Digest. Feel free to ask me any questions.

Alessandra

>

> Hi,

> I attended a seminar with , and have both books.

>

> Last year I saw great improvements with my son as I put him

on

> Enzymes. I used Houston brand. I had to use them all the time. I

> also started using probiotics and Coromega, along with vitamins.

> The difference was incredible and I do not believe die off was an

> issue at all.

>

> After the conference, when I ran out of Houstons, I put on

> Digest Gold nad Glutenease. His stimming has actually

returned...not

> as bad but I suppose I am dealing with die off now since they are a

> more powerful Enzyme??

>

> I read about Bacteria, and tried giving him two Glutenease between

> meals and no Digest Gold and that seemed to really go well..No

> stimming.

>

> I suppose now Im confused on what to do next. Should I treat him

as

> he has a bacteria issue. Not sure if he has a yeast issue....no

> symptoms in the book match him. Could Digest Gold be too powerful

> for him? Or should I wait it out for 2 weeks for the die off. I

> have not purchased any yeast fighting enzymes as again, Im not

sure

> if he has a yeast issue. Or maybe he is sensitive to Papain?

SHould

> I use Glutenease and go back to AFP Peptizes?

>

> Any insight would be very helpful! Enzymes have been a god sent.

My

> husband did comment to me the other day that he does not stim until

> he takes Digest Gold...

>

> Thoughts?

>

> Kathy

>

[Guest guest]

....I just thought more powerful the better lol and so that is not always the

case!

While more potent can be better, it is also something a person may not be able

to tolerate

right away, or ever. And 'what is best at the moment' may change over time as

health

improves (the goal anyway). So trying different things every 6-12 months may be

beneficial.

The Great Low-n-Slow Method was developed from the need to help those with very

injured guts or sensitive systems because they couldn't start off with a high

full dose. This

approach was rather the opposite of what most enzyme vendors were recommending.

Now most enzyme vendors are promoting the low-n-slow approach because it has

been

so successful in the initial healing process. Kudos to this group in helping

with this

guideline!

Other supplements work this way too: probiotics, detoxification programs,

minerals.

Another thing to consider is what the GlutenEase alone between meals is telling

you. For

one thing, as a strong protease, it could be helping with pathogen control or

general

healing. Do you have any particular reason to suspect it is bacteria or yeast?

Has your

child has die-off reactions in the past that you could gage as a die-off

reaction?

One the flip side, if the Digest Gold is causing some stimming, this is very

consistent with

the initial adjustments which can happen in when more foods is being digested

with

meals. And each jump in enzyme potency or enzyme dosing tends to bring another

jump

in adjustment and then a corresponding jump in improvements.

All of these are ideas to look at. I often look for patterns of similar type

reactions a person

may have.

.

>

> >

> > Hi,

> > I attended a seminar with , and have both books.

> >

> > Last year I saw great improvements with my son as I put him

> on

> > Enzymes. I used Houston brand. I had to use them all the time. I

> > also started using probiotics and Coromega, along with vitamins.

> > The difference was incredible and I do not believe die off was an

> > issue at all.

> >

> > After the conference, when I ran out of Houstons, I put on

> > Digest Gold nad Glutenease. His stimming has actually

> returned...not

> > as bad but I suppose I am dealing with die off now since they are a

> > more powerful Enzyme??

> >

> > I read about Bacteria, and tried giving him two Glutenease between

> > meals and no Digest Gold and that seemed to really go well..No

> > stimming.

> >

> > I suppose now Im confused on what to do next. Should I treat him

> as

> > he has a bacteria issue. Not sure if he has a yeast issue....no

> > symptoms in the book match him. Could Digest Gold be too powerful

> > for him? Or should I wait it out for 2 weeks for the die off. I

> > have not purchased any yeast fighting enzymes as again, Im not

> sure

> > if he has a yeast issue. Or maybe he is sensitive to Papain?

> SHould

> > I use Glutenease and go back to AFP Peptizes?

> >

> > Any insight would be very helpful! Enzymes have been a god sent.

> My

> > husband did comment to me the other day that he does not stim until

> > he takes Digest Gold...

> >

> > Thoughts?

> >

> > Kathy

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

Thanks...

Last year when I started enzymes, we used AFP Peptyze and HN Zyme. He had no

reaction as far as die off, he instantly improved but I was giving it to him

4-5 times a day. In about 6 months he was doing really well...Last fall is

when I went toyour seminar....and figured I would try the digest gold and

glutenease when I ran out of Houston. Slowly his stimming became more

noticable.

So I dont think he has a history of die off. I was impressed that I never

experienced it with the Houston......

But they Digest gold/Glutenease are definitely stronger.....

He also takes kirman probiotics and Coromega along with brain child vitamins.

I just am trying to figure out my next step Nothing really strikes me about

bacteria or yeast, but I just dont know if that is missing....

Kathy

Re: Question regarding enzymes and self stimulatory

behavior

...I just thought more powerful the better lol and so that is not always the

case!

While more potent can be better, it is also something a person may not be able

to tolerate

right away, or ever. And 'what is best at the moment' may change over time as

health

improves (the goal anyway). So trying different things every 6-12 months may

be

beneficial.

The Great Low-n-Slow Method was developed from the need to help those with

very

injured guts or sensitive systems because they couldn't start off with a high

full dose. This

approach was rather the opposite of what most enzyme vendors were

recommending.

Now most enzyme vendors are promoting the low-n-slow approach because it has

been

so successful in the initial healing process. Kudos to this group in helping

with this

guideline!

Other supplements work this way too: probiotics, detoxification programs,

minerals.

Another thing to consider is what the GlutenEase alone between meals is

telling you. For

one thing, as a strong protease, it could be helping with pathogen control or

general

healing. Do you have any particular reason to suspect it is bacteria or yeast?

Has your

child has die-off reactions in the past that you could gage as a die-off

reaction?

One the flip side, if the Digest Gold is causing some stimming, this is very

consistent with

the initial adjustments which can happen in when more foods is being digested

with

meals. And each jump in enzyme potency or enzyme dosing tends to bring another

jump

in adjustment and then a corresponding jump in improvements.

All of these are ideas to look at. I often look for patterns of similar type

reactions a person

may have.

.

>

> >

> > Hi,

> > I attended a seminar with , and have both books.

> >

> > Last year I saw great improvements with my son as I put him

> on

> > Enzymes. I used Houston brand. I had to use them all the time. I

> > also started using probiotics and Coromega, along with vitamins.

> > The difference was incredible and I do not believe die off was an

> > issue at all.

> >

> > After the conference, when I ran out of Houstons, I put on

> > Digest Gold nad Glutenease. His stimming has actually

> returned...not

> > as bad but I suppose I am dealing with die off now since they are a

> > more powerful Enzyme??

> >

> > I read about Bacteria, and tried giving him two Glutenease between

> > meals and no Digest Gold and that seemed to really go well..No

> > stimming.

> >

> > I suppose now Im confused on what to do next. Should I treat him

> as

> > he has a bacteria issue. Not sure if he has a yeast issue....no

> > symptoms in the book match him. Could Digest Gold be too powerful

> > for him? Or should I wait it out for 2 weeks for the die off. I

> > have not purchased any yeast fighting enzymes as again, Im not

> sure

> > if he has a yeast issue. Or maybe he is sensitive to Papain?

> SHould

> > I use Glutenease and go back to AFP Peptizes?

> >

> > Any insight would be very helpful! Enzymes have been a god sent.

> My

> > husband did comment to me the other day that he does not stim until

> > he takes Digest Gold...

> >

> > Thoughts?

> >

> > Kathy

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh

I did forget to say that I do see improvements with even though his

stimming has increased...but I cant say if that is his RDI therapy or the

enzymes...

KAthy

Re: Question regarding enzymes and self stimulatory

behavior

...I just thought more powerful the better lol and so that is not always the

case!

While more potent can be better, it is also something a person may not be able

to tolerate

right away, or ever. And 'what is best at the moment' may change over time as

health

improves (the goal anyway). So trying different things every 6-12 months may

be

beneficial.

The Great Low-n-Slow Method was developed from the need to help those with

very

injured guts or sensitive systems because they couldn't start off with a high

full dose. This

approach was rather the opposite of what most enzyme vendors were

recommending.

Now most enzyme vendors are promoting the low-n-slow approach because it has

been

so successful in the initial healing process. Kudos to this group in helping

with this

guideline!

Other supplements work this way too: probiotics, detoxification programs,

minerals.

Another thing to consider is what the GlutenEase alone between meals is

telling you. For

one thing, as a strong protease, it could be helping with pathogen control or

general

healing. Do you have any particular reason to suspect it is bacteria or yeast?

Has your

child has die-off reactions in the past that you could gage as a die-off

reaction?

One the flip side, if the Digest Gold is causing some stimming, this is very

consistent with

the initial adjustments which can happen in when more foods is being digested

with

meals. And each jump in enzyme potency or enzyme dosing tends to bring another

jump

in adjustment and then a corresponding jump in improvements.

All of these are ideas to look at. I often look for patterns of similar type

reactions a person

may have.

.

>

> >

> > Hi,

> > I attended a seminar with , and have both books.

> >

> > Last year I saw great improvements with my son as I put him

> on

> > Enzymes. I used Houston brand. I had to use them all the time. I

> > also started using probiotics and Coromega, along with vitamins.

> > The difference was incredible and I do not believe die off was an

> > issue at all.

> >

> > After the conference, when I ran out of Houstons, I put on

> > Digest Gold nad Glutenease. His stimming has actually

> returned...not

> > as bad but I suppose I am dealing with die off now since they are a

> > more powerful Enzyme??

> >

> > I read about Bacteria, and tried giving him two Glutenease between

> > meals and no Digest Gold and that seemed to really go well..No

> > stimming.

> >

> > I suppose now Im confused on what to do next. Should I treat him

> as

> > he has a bacteria issue. Not sure if he has a yeast issue....no

> > symptoms in the book match him. Could Digest Gold be too powerful

> > for him? Or should I wait it out for 2 weeks for the die off. I

> > have not purchased any yeast fighting enzymes as again, Im not

> sure

> > if he has a yeast issue. Or maybe he is sensitive to Papain?

> SHould

> > I use Glutenease and go back to AFP Peptizes?

> >

> > Any insight would be very helpful! Enzymes have been a god sent.

> My

> > husband did comment to me the other day that he does not stim until

> > he takes Digest Gold...

> >

> > Thoughts?

> >

> > Kathy

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>