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> question I have is could my son's failure to thrive and his autism

> symptoms be very closely related?

I have three tall kids and one who tended toward being short. He started

growing with enzymes, carnitine, thyroid support, and adrenal support. Those

are also things that help with autistic kids [this child is my PDD child]. So

yes, they can be related.

>>I'm thinking that his autism is somehow related to his

> brain being starved in some way. Is that possible?

One of the leading autism doctors has written a book called " Children with

Starving Brains " , so yes, it is common.

Dana

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Ed I took my son to the amen clinic in reston va. You csn check out their web

page at www amenclinic com its pretty impressive with the brain.they also have a

hige selection of books. My son is aspergers. Adhd ocd tourettes. They did

brain scans on my son to see which part of the brain is affected and then how we

need to treat. They told me that a lot of these kids problems is inflammation in

the body that is causing inflammation of the brain. Figure what the

trigger/triggers are, treat with enzymes etc. And u should see a huge reduction

in symptoms. Triggers can be food allergies, metals, the body lacking in

anything (vitamins, enzymes etc) , they questioned me about lyme disease,

fungals, yeast, fatty acids, leaky gut, thyroid function Great plains

laboratory has a huge selection on labs to help figure this out. We've used them

several times. Now we finally found a dan dr and r going next week to see if he

can put it all together for us. Ugh!!! Talk about complicated.

We have started coromega 3 because the amen clinic said it helps with reducing

inflammation of the brain. 4000mg a day. My son weighs 80 pounds. Can't tell

really a difference yet. Its only been 3 weeks.

Hope this helps. Good luck

.

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Failure to thrive and ASD

Hello all,

I have a 5 year old son who was diagnosed with ASD a few months back.

He is a former micro preemie (born a 510g). He's got a mix of

symptoms. I've been researching like crazy trying to figure out what

is going on and seeing if we can get some or all of his symptoms under

control. We have an appointment next with with a DAN doctor and we'll

begin investigating things with him as well. I started him on broad

spectrum enzymes almost a month ago and have recently switched him to

Trienza to see if that will help both with his ASD and growth. The

question I have is could my son's failure to thrive and his autism

symptoms be very closely related? He's at about the third (3)

percentile for height (38.5 inches) and weight (27.5 lbs) and hasn't

put on much weight since January. He's pretty energetic and

constantly on the go. When his autism symptoms don't get in the way

he can learn. I'm thinking that his autism is somehow related to his

brain being starved in some way. Is that possible? Anyone have any

comments on this one?

Thanks

Ed

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Hi ED,

Have you had his zinc and copper levels checked.Too high copper nad too low zinc

can cause failure to thrive according to Pfeiffer.

R

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Hi,

My son has similar issues. Developmental delay and growth delay. For us I

think the two issues are linked by the same root cause. We are still trying to

figure it out.

But, after not growing for a year we recently increased the amount of enzymes

(including nattokinase, virastop, candidase, trienza) we give him and reduced

gut inflammation with enhansa/curcumin. We also started HBOT about a month or

two ago. We also started giving him iron and zinc supplements and he has grown

about 3 inches in the past few months. Most of that growth seems to have come

since starting HBOT. But it is hard to say for sure because we also started the

higher doses of enzymes at the same time.

How is your son's appetite? Have you ever had his blood checked for iron

ferritin levels and zinc levels? What about growth hormone? Our son has had no

detectable levels of growth hormone in his blood in 3 or 4 tests. You can read

a lot about the link between growth hormone and iron, ferritin, and zinc

deficiencies.

We think several things are going on with our son which may also apply to other

kids. Iron and zinc (and other nutrients) are low because malabsorption and gut

dysbiosis (maybe biofilm using up some minerals/nutrients), thick blood due to

leaky gut, metal toxicity, suppressed immune system, which leads to

blood/oxygen/nutrient flow issues in the brain and rest of the body which causes

hormone issues and other issues and keeping my son in a developmental and growth

delayed state.

We are trying to address the blood flow issue by repairing his gut, using niacin

to open up the capilaries, HBOT to increase oxygen delivery, vitamins/minerals

to supplement deficiencies, antifungal/antiparasitics/antivirals/probiotics to

address pathogens, and lots and lots of enzymes to help digest food, break down

biofilm and this the blood.

So far he has been doing pretty well lately and seems to be growing a little

finally. We still have a long way to go but the past month or two have been

encouraging for us.

Good luck to you. I think you are right to think the two issues may be related.

>

> Hello all,

> I have a 5 year old son who was diagnosed with ASD a few months back.

> He is a former micro preemie (born a 510g). He's got a mix of

> symptoms. I've been researching like crazy trying to figure out what

> is going on and seeing if we can get some or all of his symptoms under

> control. We have an appointment next with with a DAN doctor and we'll

> begin investigating things with him as well. I started him on broad

> spectrum enzymes almost a month ago and have recently switched him to

> Trienza to see if that will help both with his ASD and growth. The

> question I have is could my son's failure to thrive and his autism

> symptoms be very closely related? He's at about the third (3)

> percentile for height (38.5 inches) and weight (27.5 lbs) and hasn't

> put on much weight since January. He's pretty energetic and

> constantly on the go. When his autism symptoms don't get in the way

> he can learn. I'm thinking that his autism is somehow related to his

> brain being starved in some way. Is that possible? Anyone have any

> comments on this one?

>

> Thanks

>

> Ed

>

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Hi Ed,

Since failure to thrive can be related to not be able to absorb crucial

vitamins, minerals and nutrients, have you considered changing his diet? I would

recommend going on a gf/cf (gluten free casein free) diet. Even staying away

from corn and soy, while limiting the sugar intake. Diet has a huge impact on us

and we often don't realize it. Also, do some research on hbot. It's a hyperbaric

oxygen therapy. A lot of parents in similar situations, have found that between

that, diet and enzymes that their child has tremendously benefited. And you've

already got the enzyme thing down, right? Adding in some supplementing enzymes

to help with the inflammation (if you find out he does have inflammation) would

be worth a try too.

We all wish we could give you a guarantee solution, but in some way, I really do

hope this helps you and your family out. I wish you guys the best.

Talyna

Enzymedica Education Dept.

www.enzymedica.com

www.AGRT.org

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> >

> > Hi ED,

> > Have you had his zinc and copper levels checked.Too high copper nad too low

> > zinc can cause failure to thrive according to Pfeiffer.

> > R

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> Ed I took my son to the amen clinic in reston va. You csn check out their web

page at www amenclinic com its pretty impressive with the brain.they also have a

hige selection of books. My son is aspergers. Adhd ocd tourettes. They did

brain scans on my son to see which part of the brain is affected and then how we

need to treat. They told me that a lot of these kids problems is inflammation in

the body that is causing inflammation of the brain. Figure what the

trigger/triggers are, treat with enzymes etc. And u should see a huge reduction

in symptoms. Triggers can be food allergies, metals, the body lacking in

anything (vitamins, enzymes etc) , they questioned me about lyme disease,

fungals, yeast, fatty acids, leaky gut, thyroid function Great plains

laboratory has a huge selection on labs to help figure this out. We've used them

several times. Now we finally found a dan dr and r going next week to see if he

can put it all together for us. Ugh!!! Talk about complicated.

>

> We have started coromega 3 because the amen clinic said it helps with reducing

inflammation of the brain. 4000mg a day. My son weighs 80 pounds. Can't tell

really a difference yet. Its only been 3 weeks.

>

> Hope this helps. Good luck

> .

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> Failure to thrive and ASD

>

>

> Hello all,

> I have a 5 year old son who was diagnosed with ASD a few months back.

> He is a former micro preemie (born a 510g). He's got a mix of

> symptoms. I've been researching like crazy trying to figure out what

> is going on and seeing if we can get some or all of his symptoms under

> control. We have an appointment next with with a DAN doctor and we'll

> begin investigating things with him as well. I started him on broad

> spectrum enzymes almost a month ago and have recently switched him to

> Trienza to see if that will help both with his ASD and growth. The

> question I have is could my son's failure to thrive and his autism

> symptoms be very closely related? He's at about the third (3)

> percentile for height (38.5 inches) and weight (27.5 lbs) and hasn't

> put on much weight since January. He's pretty energetic and

> constantly on the go. When his autism symptoms don't get in the way

> he can learn. I'm thinking that his autism is somehow related to his

> brain being starved in some way. Is that possible? Anyone have any

> comments on this one?

>

> Thanks

>

> Ed

>

> Hello Ed and all!

My son is also 5 years old and autistic. He was diagnosed when he was 3 years

old. We did ABA therapy for a year. That was great! Now, we are trying enzymes

and we are taking him to a DAN doctor soon too. I can't wait to find out what

supplements he needs to recover him!

JUlie

>

>

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Hi Ed!

You are in for an enlightening experience with this wonderful support group!!

DeFelice, Dana, and others here helped me tremendously with our ASD child

(started on this group when she was 5 and now she's 12 years old!). Doctors

know a lot, but most don't know a lot when when it comes to autism and other

related symptoms. THOUSANDS of dollars can be saved on doctor bills by trying

some of the things mentioned on this group. The knowledge is incredible here.

Each individual will have their own unique combination of things that will work

BEST for them...It takes trial and error, patience, and endurance to discover

what that combination is.

You're off to a good start with Dr. Houston's wonderful enzymes!! Be sure they

are taken with each meal/snack as they'll be needed if it's been over an hour or

so since eating (The enzymes can also be taken between meals to help with viral

and/or bacterial issues) ~ The AFP Peptizyde (which is in the TriEnza) is

particulary helpful for those needing to go Gluten and/or casein free...With

these enzymes, some people are able to eat pretty much whatever they want since

this enzyme helps with breaking down proteins in things such as wheat and soy,

but others, including with our little girl, still needs to avoid gluten

(particularly wheat) as much as possible as it affects her eczema, although

certain supplements along with the enzymes have been helping with that a great

deal. Before we had started with enzymes, we had started with the Feingold

Diet, avoiding artificial colors/preservatives (which we ALL should be doing as

the artificial stuff is not good for ANY of us). I had also eliminated all

fragrance from the home by throwing out any product with " fragrance " in the

ingredients and other chemicals such as artificial colors. We now purchase

household products that are hypoallergenic or organic. Many of the products we

get are from Aubrey Organics online. They also have wonderful shampoo's and a

great household cleaner (which you can put an inch of the product in a spray

bottle, fill the rest with water and clean your whole home!). Once we started

houston's enzymes, to us, they were like a miracle for our little girl, allowing

better sleep, growth, focus, behavior, skin,...

Some additional companies you might find helpful are: KirkmanLabs.com,

Brainchild Nutritionals, and Wellness Resources, to name a few. If you haven't

already, be sure to check out www.enzymestuff.com and www.danasview.net

We order most of our supplements now from Wellness Resources

( www.WellnessResources.com 800-717-WELL ). Whether you order from them or

not, they explain each supplement in detail which is helpful in understanding if

and why a certain supplement might be helpful for a particular individual. Not

all supplements are the same and rarely, if ever, can a high quality supplement

be found at a " regular " store. It's important to research to be sure you're

getting a good, high quality supplement that can be absorbed easily into the

body.

The Wellness Resource supplements we use for our daughter that you might want to

read about at the site to consider for your little one as well are:

CoQ10, Vit C (thankfully, this one is corn-free), Zinc, Magnesium (we give the

Relax-a-Mag),DHA (they're tiny capsules, easy to swallow),

Acetyl-L-Carnitine/Pantethine/ Carnosine (we take the Stress Helper, which has

all 3 of these in it and supplement a little more individually of the Pantethine

for our little girl),Biotin...Soon we'll be trying their " Daily Energy

Multivitamin " which contains various types of healthy vitamins, including many

of the B vitamins that, in the past, our daughter couldn't take even though her

body needed it as shown in blood tests...Our daughter is highly Phenol reactive

and used to react to certain fruits, vegetables, chocolate, perfumes, and B

vitamins, all of which are high in phenols. Dr. Houston's enzyme, No-Fenol,

helped with the phenol food issues for the most part (we still needed to avoid

certain red fruits and veggies, but, at age 12, after all the wonderful healing

from enzymes, healthy diets/supplements, and fragrance-free environment, she now

can consume pretty much anything on occasion which is nice when we have social

gatherings (the behavior can still get a little challenging at times off the

diet, but it's WAY better than before starting all the healthy stuff!!).

Well, now that your head is spinning....try to relax....Over time, much of this

will all make sense, and know you're off to a GREAT start with Dr. Houston's

enzymes...

We home school our 2 children, which has been a wonderful experience overall

with the flexibility that it allows. We're able to take breaks or speed up at

various times as well as avoid chemicals in foods and in the environment on a

regular basis (everything we smell and allow to touch our skin can make a

difference in health issues as well)

Feel free to contact me at my dot com address if you have any questions:

K12userfor2@...

To better health,

Gretchen and family :)

>

> Hello all,

> I have a 5 year old son who was diagnosed with ASD a few months back.

> He is a former micro preemie (born a 510g). He's got a mix of

> symptoms. I've been researching like crazy trying to figure out what

> is going on and seeing if we can get some or all of his symptoms under

> control. We have an appointment next with with a DAN doctor and we'll

> begin investigating things with him as well. I started him on broad

> spectrum enzymes almost a month ago and have recently switched him to

> Trienza to see if that will help both with his ASD and growth. The

> question I have is could my son's failure to thrive and his autism

> symptoms be very closely related? He's at about the third (3)

> percentile for height (38.5 inches) and weight (27.5 lbs) and hasn't

> put on much weight since January. He's pretty energetic and

> constantly on the go. When his autism symptoms don't get in the way

> he can learn. I'm thinking that his autism is somehow related to his

> brain being starved in some way. Is that possible? Anyone have any

> comments on this one?

>

> Thanks

>

> Ed

>

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Hi , it's absolutely dream come true to have son eat solid. I am in the

same boat as Ed. My son just eats puree. He has been on multivitamin, mineral,

cod liver, enzymes and probiotics for about 10 months. Now I have got enhansa.

Let's see if this makes difference (I'm just scared he is supersensitive to

anything we start).

-Rishi

> >

> >>>

> >

> >>> Ed I took my son to the amen clinic in reston va. You csn check out their

> >

> >>> web page at www amenclinic com its pretty impressive with the brain.they

> >

> >>> also have a hige selection of books. My son is aspergers. Adhd ocd

> >

> >>> tourettes. They did brain scans on my son to see which part of the brain

> >>> is

> >

> >>> affected and then how we need to treat. They told me that a lot of these

> >

> >>> kids problems is inflammation in the body that is causing inflammation of

> >

> >>> the brain. Figure what the trigger/triggers are, treat with enzymes etc.

> >>> And

> >

> >>> u should see a huge reduction in symptoms. Triggers can be food

> >>> allergies,

> >

> >>> metals, the body lacking in anything (vitamins, enzymes etc) , they

> >

> >>> questioned me about lyme disease, fungals, yeast, fatty acids, leaky gut,

> >

> >>> thyroid function Great plains laboratory has a huge selection on labs to

> >

> >>> help figure this out. We've used them several times. Now we finally found

> >>> a

> >

> >>> dan dr and r going next week to see if he can put it all together for us.

> >

> >>> Ugh!!! Talk about complicated.

> >

> >>>

> >

> >>> We have started coromega 3 because the amen clinic said it helps with

> >

> >>> reducing inflammation of the brain. 4000mg a day. My son weighs 80

> >>> pounds.

> >

> >>> Can't tell really a difference yet. Its only been 3 weeks.

> >

> >>>

> >

> >>> Hope this helps. Good luck

> >

> >>> .

> >

> >>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> >

> >>>

> >

> >>> Failure to thrive and ASD

> >

> >>>

> >

> >>>

> >

> >>> Hello all,

> >

> >>> I have a 5 year old son who was diagnosed with ASD a few months back.

> >

> >>> He is a former micro preemie (born a 510g). He's got a mix of

> >

> >>> symptoms. I've been researching like crazy trying to figure out what

> >

> >>> is going on and seeing if we can get some or all of his symptoms under

> >

> >>> control. We have an appointment next with with a DAN doctor and we'll

> >

> >>> begin investigating things with him as well. I started him on broad

> >

> >>> spectrum enzymes almost a month ago and have recently switched him to

> >

> >>> Trienza to see if that will help both with his ASD and growth. The

> >

> >>> question I have is could my son's failure to thrive and his autism

> >

> >>> symptoms be very closely related? He's at about the third (3)

> >

> >>> percentile for height (38.5 inches) and weight (27.5 lbs) and hasn't

> >

> >>> put on much weight since January. He's pretty energetic and

> >

> >>> constantly on the go. When his autism symptoms don't get in the way

> >

> >>> he can learn. I'm thinking that his autism is somehow related to his

> >

> >>> brain being starved in some way. Is that possible? Anyone have any

> >

> >>> comments on this one?

> >

> >>>

> >

> >>> Thanks

> >

> >>>

> >

> >>> Ed

> >

> >>>

> >

> >>> Hello Ed and all!

> >

> >> My son is also 5 years old and autistic. He was diagnosed when he was 3

> >

> >> years old. We did ABA therapy for a year. That was great! Now, we are

> >> trying

> >

> >> enzymes and we are taking him to a DAN doctor soon too. I can't wait to

> >> find

> >

> >> out what supplements he needs to recover him!

> >

> >> JUlie

> >

> >>>

> >

> >>>

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Hi again Ed :)

Mashed foods also work(ed) for us on GAPS for things like broccoli,

sprouts and cauliflower. That's more than acceptable in terms of the

protocol.

Our boy probably still does have some visual and smell aversions of his

own....and so we do such things ourselves on a needs basis.

What's interesting to me is this : since we started GAPS our boy has

never craved sweets of any kind, nor bread, nor milk products.

And, he was really addicted to these prior to starting !!!

He refueses them when offered and even tells people that he is not

allowed to have them....and he is now just 4y9m.

Quite proud of him I guess :)

We didn't (and still don't) do yoghurt. We do kefir ... which he loves

when mixed with berries of almost any kind, or honey, or

banana...actually, we have a very authentic banana ice-cream with kefir

in fact. I personally enjoy a good ice-cream and this really is up there

with it!!

We will start yoghurt soon ourselves...but based on our boy's progress,

I believe Kefir is a better option at the astart...it is not as thick

and creamy (hence the need for some flavour and thickening additives),

but I think less risky in terms of milk product sensitivies.

We fermented lots, but our key driver was the broth.

We have/had a daily batch of broth, and then subsequent meals using the

meats, fats and marrows.

Prior to GAPS and Enzymes (GlutenEase (and to some extent initially,

Lacto)) our buy hadn't had a solid BM in the previous 2 years.

We snapped in with the camera when it finally accurred ;)

He was truly dysbiotic in the gut.

I hope this helps.

Seeing that we are on the enzymes list, you can contact me privately if

you uprefer.

Best Regards and Good Luck !!!

n

ps : I say all of this without asking the master chef....my wife ;)

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I missed one VERY CRITICAL POINT....which NCM recommends.... and that is this:

DO THE INTRO !!!!!!

We did it for about 10 weeks.....and we have had very few bowel regressions

since starting. Tough work.... but you will be veyr very very happy you did it

in hindsight.

Once again....best wishes

julian

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Hey Ed,

Thanks for the update. Our son is basically on the SCD diet. And now we are

trying to go low oxalate as well. He really doesn't eat much.

Our son also had a tough time eating. Mashed foods were all he would eat for a

long time. I'll tell you the thing that knocked out his food aversions and oral

aversions completely and dramatically was Enhansa. It is basically turmeric.

We got it from Lee Silsby pharmacy on the web. You can probably read about

enhansa on the message board.

At first on enhansa our son got worse but all this nasty stuff started coming

out in his diapers and after a few weeks his big bloated belly went away and he

started eating solid foods and many more types of foods. It was really quite

amazing. We haven't had to mash foods since.

But.... we still have not figured out his growth issues. We still think there

is a big gut link but have not found the right combination of things that will

help him grow.

We will look into the GAPS diet. Never heard of it.

Thanks,

>

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> >

> > Hi Ed. Our experience is that GAPS certainly puts on weight and makes one

> > thrive.

> >

> > Good Luck

> > n

> >

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I forgot that we also started zinc at the same time we started enhansa.

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> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Ed. Our experience is that GAPS certainly puts on weight and makes one

> > > thrive.

> > >

> > > Good Luck

> > > n

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> > >

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Rishi,

How are things going with your son? I think you should also try to add zinc as

well. We gave our son about 40mg at night before he went to sleep during the

same time period we started enhansa. I am not sure which one helped his eating

problems more. I think it was a combination.

> > >

> > >>>

> > >

> > >>> Ed I took my son to the amen clinic in reston va. You csn check out

their

> > >

> > >>> web page at www amenclinic com its pretty impressive with the brain.they

> > >

> > >>> also have a hige selection of books. My son is aspergers. Adhd ocd

> > >

> > >>> tourettes. They did brain scans on my son to see which part of the brain

> > >>> is

> > >

> > >>> affected and then how we need to treat. They told me that a lot of these

> > >

> > >>> kids problems is inflammation in the body that is causing inflammation

of

> > >

> > >>> the brain. Figure what the trigger/triggers are, treat with enzymes etc.

> > >>> And

> > >

> > >>> u should see a huge reduction in symptoms. Triggers can be food

> > >>> allergies,

> > >

> > >>> metals, the body lacking in anything (vitamins, enzymes etc) , they

> > >

> > >>> questioned me about lyme disease, fungals, yeast, fatty acids, leaky

gut,

> > >

> > >>> thyroid function Great plains laboratory has a huge selection on labs to

> > >

> > >>> help figure this out. We've used them several times. Now we finally

found

> > >>> a

> > >

> > >>> dan dr and r going next week to see if he can put it all together for

us.

> > >

> > >>> Ugh!!! Talk about complicated.

> > >

> > >>>

> > >

> > >>> We have started coromega 3 because the amen clinic said it helps with

> > >

> > >>> reducing inflammation of the brain. 4000mg a day. My son weighs 80

> > >>> pounds.

> > >

> > >>> Can't tell really a difference yet. Its only been 3 weeks.

> > >

> > >>>

> > >

> > >>> Hope this helps. Good luck

> > >

> > >>> .

> > >

> > >>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > >

> > >>>

> > >

> > >>> Failure to thrive and ASD

> > >

> > >>>

> > >

> > >>>

> > >

> > >>> Hello all,

> > >

> > >>> I have a 5 year old son who was diagnosed with ASD a few months back.

> > >

> > >>> He is a former micro preemie (born a 510g). He's got a mix of

> > >

> > >>> symptoms. I've been researching like crazy trying to figure out what

> > >

> > >>> is going on and seeing if we can get some or all of his symptoms under

> > >

> > >>> control. We have an appointment next with with a DAN doctor and we'll

> > >

> > >>> begin investigating things with him as well. I started him on broad

> > >

> > >>> spectrum enzymes almost a month ago and have recently switched him to

> > >

> > >>> Trienza to see if that will help both with his ASD and growth. The

> > >

> > >>> question I have is could my son's failure to thrive and his autism

> > >

> > >>> symptoms be very closely related? He's at about the third (3)

> > >

> > >>> percentile for height (38.5 inches) and weight (27.5 lbs) and hasn't

> > >

> > >>> put on much weight since January. He's pretty energetic and

> > >

> > >>> constantly on the go. When his autism symptoms don't get in the way

> > >

> > >>> he can learn. I'm thinking that his autism is somehow related to his

> > >

> > >>> brain being starved in some way. Is that possible? Anyone have any

> > >

> > >>> comments on this one?

> > >

> > >>>

> > >

> > >>> Thanks

> > >

> > >>>

> > >

> > >>> Ed

> > >

> > >>>

> > >

> > >>> Hello Ed and all!

> > >

> > >> My son is also 5 years old and autistic. He was diagnosed when he was 3

> > >

> > >> years old. We did ABA therapy for a year. That was great! Now, we are

> > >> trying

> > >

> > >> enzymes and we are taking him to a DAN doctor soon too. I can't wait to

> > >> find

> > >

> > >> out what supplements he needs to recover him!

> > >

> > >> JUlie

> > >

> > >>>

> > >

> > >>>

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coconut kefir might be a good alternative. Is coconut allow with the GAPS diet?

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> From: greenrazorsharp <julianpractica (DOT) com.au>

> Subject: Re: Failure to thrive and ASD

>

> Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 9:53 AM

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>  

>

> I missed one VERY CRITICAL POINT....which NCM recommends.. .. and that is

this:

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> DO THE INTRO !!!!!!

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> We did it for about 10 weeks.....and we have had very few bowel regressions

since starting. Tough work.... but you will be veyr very very happy you did it

in hindsight.

>

> Once again....best wishes

> julian

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