Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Should I get biotin? I'm not sure what it is. Should I get GSE? My son does have trouble with too many phenols, but his tolerance is really quite high and we are now taking no phenol. Which one/ones should I use? Thanks for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Ever since I added biotin, we have less of a struggle fighting yeast. You will probably need both, but I would definitely consider adding biotin. My son gets 10mg three times a day and it's been working pretty well. Hope this helps, Mom to - 4 years old - recovering from PDD-NOS Our recovery story: http://www.recoveringnicholas.com From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of shirleyfadden123 Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:51 PM Subject: " upping the yeast protocol " what do you reccomend? Should I get biotin? I'm not sure what it is. Should I get GSE? My son does have trouble with too many phenols, but his tolerance is really quite high and we are now taking no phenol. Which one/ones should I use? Thanks for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 > > Should I get biotin? I'm not sure what it is. It is a B vitamin, manufactured by the good bacteria in the gut, and the body uses it to control yeast. > Should I get GSE? This will actively kill yeast. > Which one/ones should I use? I would start with biotin. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 does that mean 10mg slip three times a day or 30mg total per day Thanks From: <hisblueeyes@...> Subject: RE: " upping the yeast protocol " what do you reccomend? Received: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 1:57 AM Ever since I added biotin, we have less of a struggle fighting yeast. You will probably need both, but I would definitely consider adding biotin. My son gets 10mg three times a day and it's been working pretty well. Hope this helps, Mom to - 4 years old - recovering from PDD-NOS Our recovery story: http://www.recoveri ngnicholas. com From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of shirleyfadden123 Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:51 PM Subject: " upping the yeast protocol " what do you reccomend? Should I get biotin? I'm not sure what it is. Should I get GSE? My son does have trouble with too many phenols, but his tolerance is really quite high and we are now taking no phenol. Which one/ones should I use? Thanks for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I split 30mg per day into 3 doses. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Shell Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:26 PM Subject: RE: " upping the yeast protocol " what do you reccomend? does that mean 10mg slip three times a day or 30mg total per day Thanks From: <hisblueeyes@... <mailto:hisblueeyes%40comcast.net> > Subject: RE: " upping the yeast protocol " what do you reccomend? <mailto:%40> Received: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 1:57 AM Ever since I added biotin, we have less of a struggle fighting yeast. You will probably need both, but I would definitely consider adding biotin. My son gets 10mg three times a day and it's been working pretty well. Hope this helps, Mom to - 4 years old - recovering from PDD-NOS Our recovery story: http://www.recoveri ngnicholas. com From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of shirleyfadden123 Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:51 PM Subject: " upping the yeast protocol " what do you reccomend? Should I get biotin? I'm not sure what it is. Should I get GSE? My son does have trouble with too many phenols, but his tolerance is really quite high and we are now taking no phenol. Which one/ones should I use? Thanks for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Ugh, I'll have to return my biotin. 1 capsule is only worth .5mg. Does it matter if you take the Biotin on a full or empty stomache? Does anyone know about this Anultra? Is it GSE or something different? What is GSE? > > From: <hisblueeyes@... <mailto:hisblueeyes%40comcast.net> > > Subject: RE: " upping the yeast protocol " what do you reccomend? > > <mailto:%40> > Received: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 1:57 AM > > Ever since I added biotin, we have less of a struggle fighting yeast. You > will probably need both, but I would definitely consider adding biotin. My > son gets 10mg three times a day and it's been working pretty well. > > Hope this helps, > > > > Mom to - 4 years old - recovering from PDD-NOS > > Our recovery story: http://www.recoveri ngnicholas. com > > From: > [mailto:] On Behalf Of shirleyfadden123 > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:51 PM > > Subject: " upping the yeast protocol " what do you reccomend? > > Should I get biotin? I'm not sure what it is. > > Should I get GSE? My son does have trouble with too many phenols, but > his tolerance is really quite high and we are now taking no phenol. > > Which one/ones should I use? > > Thanks for your help! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 So for the biotin how long does it take to get up to such a high dose, this a new one for me and my son is taking only 300mcg three times a day for a total of 900mcg. I have just ordered the new one from kirkman which is 1000mcg but it is called D-biotin I am sure it's the same, right? I am in Canada and sometimes it's hard to get certain supplements here without fillers so that is why I got the Kirkmans one and also it is in a capsule the one he has right now is in a pill so I have to crush it, I have gone through two crushers already, they keep breaking. Anyway for the dosing, how much and how often should I increase I like to do everything slow but it seems like I am WAY under for the biotin. My son is Three and weighs about 27 lbs  Thanks so much! Shell From: shirleyfadden123 <shirleyfadden123@...> Subject: Re: " upping the yeast protocol " what do you reccomend? Received: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 8:48 PM Ugh, I'll have to return my biotin. 1 capsule is only worth .5mg. Does it matter if you take the Biotin on a full or empty stomache? Does anyone know about this Anultra? Is it GSE or something different? What is GSE? > > From: <hisblueeyes@ ... <mailto:hisblueeyes %40comcast. net> > > Subject: RE: " upping the yeast protocol " what do you reccomend? > > <mailto:EnzymesandA utism%40gro ups.com> > Received: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 1:57 AM > > Ever since I added biotin, we have less of a struggle fighting yeast. You > will probably need both, but I would definitely consider adding biotin. My > son gets 10mg three times a day and it's been working pretty well. > > Hope this helps, > > > > Mom to - 4 years old - recovering from PDD-NOS > > Our recovery story: http://www.recoveri ngnicholas. com > > From: > [mailto:EnzymesandA utism] On Behalf Of shirleyfadden123 > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:51 PM > > Subject: " upping the yeast protocol " what do you reccomend? > > Should I get biotin? I'm not sure what it is. > > Should I get GSE? My son does have trouble with too many phenols, but > his tolerance is really quite high and we are now taking no phenol. > > Which one/ones should I use? > > Thanks for your help! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I usually buy this one which works well - and is inexpensive - especially since we are going through 30mg per day: http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Biotin I ramped this one up fairly quickly and did not see a negative reaction. First day I started with one capsule in the morning. Second day, I did 1 capsule morning and night. Third, one capsule morning, afternoon and evening. Then I did the same thing to add the 2 capsule. I would think they're the same, not sure why kirkman's has a d in front of it. Hope this helps, Mom to - 4 years old - recovering from PDD-NOS Our recovery story: http://www.recoveringnicholas.com From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Shell Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: " upping the yeast protocol " what do you reccomend? So for the biotin how long does it take to get up to such a high dose, this a new one for me and my son is taking only 300mcg three times a day for a total of 900mcg. I have just ordered the new one from kirkman which is 1000mcg but it is called D-biotin I am sure it's the same, right? I am in Canada and sometimes it's hard to get certain supplements here without fillers so that is why I got the Kirkmans one and also it is in a capsule the one he has right now is in a pill so I have to crush it, I have gone through two crushers already, they keep breaking. Anyway for the dosing, how much and how often should I increase I like to do everything slow but it seems like I am WAY under for the biotin. My son is Three and weighs about 27 lbs Thanks so much! Shell From: shirleyfadden123 <shirleyfadden123@... <mailto:shirleyfadden123%40> > Subject: Re: " upping the yeast protocol " what do you reccomend? <mailto:%40> Received: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 8:48 PM Ugh, I'll have to return my biotin. 1 capsule is only worth .5mg. Does it matter if you take the Biotin on a full or empty stomache? Does anyone know about this Anultra? Is it GSE or something different? What is GSE? > > From: <hisblueeyes@ ... <mailto:hisblueeyes %40comcast. net> > > Subject: RE: " upping the yeast protocol " what do you reccomend? > > <mailto:EnzymesandA utism%40gro ups.com> > Received: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 1:57 AM > > Ever since I added biotin, we have less of a struggle fighting yeast. You > will probably need both, but I would definitely consider adding biotin. My > son gets 10mg three times a day and it's been working pretty well. > > Hope this helps, > > > > Mom to - 4 years old - recovering from PDD-NOS > > Our recovery story: http://www.recoveri ngnicholas. com > > From: > [mailto:EnzymesandA utism] On Behalf Of shirleyfadden123 > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:51 PM > > Subject: " upping the yeast protocol " what do you reccomend? > > Should I get biotin? I'm not sure what it is. > > Should I get GSE? My son does have trouble with too many phenols, but > his tolerance is really quite high and we are now taking no phenol. > > Which one/ones should I use? > > Thanks for your help! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I'm not sure on the full/empty stomach, but I've never noticed any issues either way. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of shirleyfadden123 Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:48 PM Subject: Re: " upping the yeast protocol " what do you reccomend? Ugh, I'll have to return my biotin. 1 capsule is only worth .5mg. Does it matter if you take the Biotin on a full or empty stomache? Does anyone know about this Anultra? Is it GSE or something different? What is GSE? > > From: <hisblueeyes@... <mailto:hisblueeyes%40comcast.net> > > Subject: RE: " upping the yeast protocol " what do you reccomend? > <mailto:%40> > <mailto:%40> > Received: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 1:57 AM > > Ever since I added biotin, we have less of a struggle fighting yeast. You > will probably need both, but I would definitely consider adding biotin. My > son gets 10mg three times a day and it's been working pretty well. > > Hope this helps, > > > > Mom to - 4 years old - recovering from PDD-NOS > > Our recovery story: http://www.recoveri ngnicholas. com > > From: > [mailto:] On Behalf Of shirleyfadden123 > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:51 PM > > Subject: " upping the yeast protocol " what do you reccomend? > > Should I get biotin? I'm not sure what it is. > > Should I get GSE? My son does have trouble with too many phenols, but > his tolerance is really quite high and we are now taking no phenol. > > Which one/ones should I use? > > Thanks for your help! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Thank you ! I ordered my biotin and GSE. I will start with the biotin. I wanted to read your recovery story and the link didn't work for me. Any idea how much GSE? Thanks, Shirley > > > > From: <hisblueeyes@ <mailto:hisblueeyes%40comcast.net> > > > Subject: RE: " upping the yeast protocol " what do you > reccomend? > > > <mailto:%40> > > <mailto:%40> > > Received: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 1:57 AM > > > > Ever since I added biotin, we have less of a struggle fighting > yeast. You > > will probably need both, but I would definitely consider adding > biotin. My > > son gets 10mg three times a day and it's been working pretty well. > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > > > > > Mom to - 4 years old - recovering from PDD-NOS > > > > Our recovery story: http://www.recoveri ngnicholas. com > > > > From: > > [mailto:] On Behalf Of > shirleyfadden123 > > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:51 PM > > > > Subject: " upping the yeast protocol " what do you > reccomend? > > > > Should I get biotin? I'm not sure what it is. > > > > Should I get GSE? My son does have trouble with too many phenols, > but > > his tolerance is really quite high and we are now taking no phenol. > > > > Which one/ones should I use? > > > > Thanks for your help! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Do you know if there are negative side effects to look for with biotin? My son is very anxious right now, and the only thing I can attribute it to is the biotin. Meg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 > Ugh, I'll have to return my biotin. 1 capsule is only worth .5mg. Or start with that dose, and gradually increase. > Does it matter if you take the Biotin on a full or empty stomache? It did not matter at my house. > Does anyone know about this Anultra? Is it GSE or something > different? What is GSE? Grapefruit seed extract. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 > > So for the biotin how long does it take to get up to such a high dose, It took me about 2 weeks to move up to the highest dose I used with my son, which was 20mg 3x per day. My son was older than yours. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 > > Do you know if there are negative side effects to look for with > biotin? My son is very anxious right now, and the only thing I can > attribute it to is the biotin. Taking too much biotin here, especially without magnesium, caused massive headache. Taking it without magnesium caused constipation and muscle twitches [magnesium deficiency]. It can also cause yeast die off symptoms, because it does control yeast. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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