Guest guest Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 > What is the proper term for my childs diagnosis as I don't think " PST deficiency " is accurate. The body's inability to convert phenol/salicylate foods into antioxidants. > We would like to not have to be so restrictive of his diet if possible as you know that can be very difficult. Do you think that using options 2-4 would ever allow him to safely eat more like all his friends? No-Fenol helped my son eat all phenol/salicylate foods, except those containing carotenes. See my previous reply on what was needed for that. My son lost his phenol/salicylate problem after 10 rounds of ALA chelation. I lost my own phenol/salicylate problem after 50 rounds. > If there was one remedy that gave you miracle results to the PST deficiency what would it be? No-Fenol enzyme and ALA chelation. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Dana - Thank you for your response. Thank you very much for your response. We have been experimenting with the Epsom Salt baths along with cranberry juice. The first night we did both of these the very next morning was the VERY first time he got up by himself, dressed himself, brushed his teeth without us having to prod him. Because we gave him the Salt bath along with the Cranberry juice - we are not sure what made such a drastic change in him. Last night he was having a Phenol Episode (aggressive behavior) and we gave him about 5 ounces of Cranberry juice and then a Epsom Salt bath. 30 minutes later his aggression went away and he spent the rest of the night playing with his brother without fighting. The fighting is the norm when they play. We were amazed! It's like a different kid. We are going to experiment with his next Phenol Episode and only administer one remedy. Cranberry or Epsom Salt bath... Anyway - we understand that No-Fenol should help to prevent the Phenol Episodes in the first place and would like recommendations on how to start him out. We bought the chewables and they were delivered yesterday and want to start him out on it ASAP. Suggestions on time, quantity, and how often would be greatly appreciated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Suplementing Molybdenum helped my son a lot with phenol issues. HTH, . Looking for a Miracle result for PST Defiecency! My wife and I have been struggling with our 5 year old... We first noticed his aggression problems when he was around 1 after eating an apple. As the years have progressed we have found more and more things that cause his behavior to change. Orange juice causes him to have downright tourettes type symptoms, it's scary. Sodium Benzoate and Yellow #5 turn him into a monster for a day or two depending on his total intake. We have learned through our own trial and error what he can eat. The problem now is that he is in Kindergarten and we have little control over what his little friends might be sharing with him in the lunchroom. Also, there is an occasion when we go out to to eat we make a mistake because we can't read all the ingredients like we do at home before giving it to him. We really had no idea what was wrong with our child until we recently stumbled upon this article. http://www.enzymestuff.com/epsomsalts.htm This leads us to believe that our son definitely has a PST deficiency. At this point we don't even know if that is what we should call it. Anyway after researching tons of articles online we have found many suggestions. 1. Feingold diet - we have derived our own version of this with trial and error. We have been buying lots of All-Natural foods lately. 2. Epsom salt baths: we have not tried this yet 3. No-Feno: I ordered already 4. Cranberry juice: We read that it is possible that cranberry juice might be able to help reverse and episode if we accidentally give him something we shouldn't have. FYI - We did read the entire very lengthy Sulfur and PST document in the FILES folder. I also did extensive reading on Rosemary Warings's Epson salt studies, Dana's View website, No-Fenols website, etc... So to our questions... What is the proper term for my childs diagnosis as I don't think " PST deficiency " is accurate. We would like to not have to be so restrictive of his diet if possible as you know that can be very difficult. Do you think that using options 2-4 would ever allow him to safely eat more like all his friends? If there was one remedy that gave you miracle results to the PST deficiency what would it be? Has anyone done the MHPG Test as mentioned in this website below? http://www.feingold.org/Research/sinaiko.html Are there any other suggestion and/or remedies that I am missing? Thanks in advance!!! The Brinsons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 > Because we gave him the Salt bath along with the Cranberry juice - we are not sure what made such a drastic change in him. Try just the bath, not the juice, see what happens. > Anyway - we understand that No-Fenol should help to prevent the Phenol Episodes in the first place and would like recommendations on how to start him out. We bought the chewables and they were delivered yesterday and want to start him out on it ASAP. > Suggestions on time, quantity, and how often would be greatly appreciated... I would try 1/2 tablet just before a meal. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 may i ask how much moly you used? do you still use the same amt? ________________________________ From: Augusto Federighi <luis.federighi@...> Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 9:50:11 PM Subject: Re: Looking for a Miracle result for PST Defiecency! Suplementing Molybdenum helped my son a lot with phenol issues. HTH, . Looking for a Miracle result for PST Defiecency! My wife and I have been struggling with our 5 year old... We first noticed his aggression problems when he was around 1 after eating an apple. As the years have progressed we have found more and more things that cause his behavior to change. Orange juice causes him to have downright tourettes type symptoms, it's scary. Sodium Benzoate and Yellow #5 turn him into a monster for a day or two depending on his total intake. We have learned through our own trial and error what he can eat. The problem now is that he is in Kindergarten and we have little control over what his little friends might be sharing with him in the lunchroom. Also, there is an occasion when we go out to to eat we make a mistake because we can't read all the ingredients like we do at home before giving it to him. We really had no idea what was wrong with our child until we recently stumbled upon this article. http://www.enzymestuff.com/epsomsalts.htm This leads us to believe that our son definitely has a PST deficiency. At this point we don't even know if that is what we should call it. Anyway after researching tons of articles online we have found many suggestions. 1. Feingold diet - we have derived our own version of this with trial and error. We have been buying lots of All-Natural foods lately. 2. Epsom salt baths: we have not tried this yet 3. No-Feno: I ordered already 4. Cranberry juice: We read that it is possible that cranberry juice might be able to help reverse and episode if we accidentally give him something we shouldn't have. FYI - We did read the entire very lengthy Sulfur and PST document in the FILES folder. I also did extensive reading on Rosemary Warings's Epson salt studies, Dana's View website, No-Fenols website, etc... So to our questions... What is the proper term for my childs diagnosis as I don't think " PST deficiency " is accurate. We would like to not have to be so restrictive of his diet if possible as you know that can be very difficult. Do you think that using options 2-4 would ever allow him to safely eat more like all his friends? If there was one remedy that gave you miracle results to the PST deficiency what would it be? Has anyone done the MHPG Test as mentioned in this website below? http://www.feingold.org/Research/sinaiko.html Are there any other suggestion and/or remedies that I am missing? Thanks in advance!!! The Brinsons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 I use E-Lyte (Body Bio) Liquid Moly - 14 drops/day. I can't remember now how much miligrams. HTH, . Looking for a Miracle result for PST Defiecency! My wife and I have been struggling with our 5 year old... We first noticed his aggression problems when he was around 1 after eating an apple. As the years have progressed we have found more and more things that cause his behavior to change. Orange juice causes him to have downright tourettes type symptoms, it's scary. Sodium Benzoate and Yellow #5 turn him into a monster for a day or two depending on his total intake. We have learned through our own trial and error what he can eat. The problem now is that he is in Kindergarten and we have little control over what his little friends might be sharing with him in the lunchroom. Also, there is an occasion when we go out to to eat we make a mistake because we can't read all the ingredients like we do at home before giving it to him. We really had no idea what was wrong with our child until we recently stumbled upon this article. http://www.enzymestuff.com/epsomsalts.htm This leads us to believe that our son definitely has a PST deficiency. At this point we don't even know if that is what we should call it. Anyway after researching tons of articles online we have found many suggestions. 1. Feingold diet - we have derived our own version of this with trial and error. We have been buying lots of All-Natural foods lately. 2. Epsom salt baths: we have not tried this yet 3. No-Feno: I ordered already 4. Cranberry juice: We read that it is possible that cranberry juice might be able to help reverse and episode if we accidentally give him something we shouldn't have. FYI - We did read the entire very lengthy Sulfur and PST document in the FILES folder. I also did extensive reading on Rosemary Warings's Epson salt studies, Dana's View website, No-Fenols website, etc... So to our questions... What is the proper term for my childs diagnosis as I don't think " PST deficiency " is accurate. We would like to not have to be so restrictive of his diet if possible as you know that can be very difficult. Do you think that using options 2-4 would ever allow him to safely eat more like all his friends? If there was one remedy that gave you miracle results to the PST deficiency what would it be? Has anyone done the MHPG Test as mentioned in this website below? http://www.feingold.org/Research/sinaiko.html Are there any other suggestion and/or remedies that I am missing? Thanks in advance!!! The Brinsons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 My son also had trouble processing phenols/salycitates. Epsom salt baths and Feindgold diet worked wonders for him, and once we chelated his toxic metals, he improved. He was unable to eat apple or drink the juice without having urine accidents, meltdowns, and extreme stims. We did 8 months of IV CaEDTA chelation with glutathione and NAC. His metals are within normal range except the mercury so we are using OSR now. But once we addressed the metal, his PST issues and gut bacteria improved. And molybdenum helps him too. Joanne > > Because we gave him the Salt bath along with the Cranberry juice - we are not sure what made such a drastic change in him. > > > Try just the bath, not the juice, see what happens. > > > > Anyway - we understand that No-Fenol should help to prevent the Phenol Episodes in the first place and would like recommendations on how to start him out. We bought the chewables and they were delivered yesterday and want to start him out on it ASAP. > > Suggestions on time, quantity, and how often would be greatly appreciated... > > > I would try 1/2 tablet just before a meal. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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