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Too many too soon! My daughter is 4 and is vaccine free and my baby is 2

and a half (can you believe that!!!????) has non either. They are both

smarter and healthier than all three of my boys were at these ages. I think

vas are important, but we need to push for safer vaccines and schedules.

Chuck you may be able to help me with my next question. Dr

suggests getting an acellular not a whole cell pertussis vaccine. What does

that mean? Gracias! http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller15.html

CW

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Eight years ago, when my friend had her child, we talked about vaccines, and

read about

the problems some of the children had and my friend decided to get less

vaccines in one

shot, and spaced out the ones that her child did get longer than usual. I

agreed with her, and thank heaven her child is fine.

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

>

>

> Does anyone know of a good medical website (not web MD or the

> likes), but

> like a research site. Now that my daughter is 4 I want to start a

> vaccine

> schedule, but want good research info to compare to what I already

> have.

> Thanks

> CW

>

>

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Crystal,

You wrote:

>

> ....Dr

> suggests getting an acellular not a whole cell pertussis vaccine. What does

> that mean?

Just as it sounds, the whole cell vaccine is made by killing Bordetella

pertussis bacteria. The acellular types (more than one) are made from

denatured pertussis toxin (something the bacterium produces) mixed with

various proteins taken from the cell membrane or fibers. Acellular

vaccines were introduced in 1997 to avoid some of the bad reactions to

the whole cell vaccines. As I recall, though, the acellular vaccines

were also slightly less effective for infants but even more effective

for older children.

Part of the confusion in results comes from the fact that the FDA

licenses combination vaccines with diphtheria and tetanus. You can't

pick a combination of this company's diphtheria with that company's

acellular pertussis. Anyway, if you are immunizing infants with an

acellular, you should plan on multiple booster shots.

Chuck

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Oh yeah that is just how it sounds, silly me : ) I think you can get the

diptheria and the pertussis separate from the tetanus. Thanks!

CW

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Crystal,

You wrote:

>

> ....Dr

> suggests getting an acellular not a whole cell pertussis vaccine. What

does

> that mean?

Just as it sounds, the whole cell vaccine is made by killing Bordetella

pertussis bacteria. The acellular types (more than one) are made from

denatured pertussis toxin (something the bacterium produces) mixed with

various proteins taken from the cell membrane or fibers. Acellular

vaccines were introduced in 1997 to avoid some of the bad reactions to

the whole cell vaccines. As I recall, though, the acellular vaccines

were also slightly less effective for infants but even more effective

for older children.

Part of the confusion in results comes from the fact that the FDA

licenses combination vaccines with diphtheria and tetanus. You can't

pick a combination of this company's diphtheria with that company's

acellular pertussis. Anyway, if you are immunizing infants with an

acellular, you should plan on multiple booster shots.

Chuck

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Crystal,

You wrote:

>

> Oh yeah that is just how it sounds, silly me : ) I think you can get the

> diptheria and the pertussis separate from the tetanus. Thanks!

I believe you can only get the acellular pertussis in combination. If

you get pertussis separately, it has to be the whole cell. At any rate

that was how it used to be. Maybe they have a new license.

At any rate neither DPT nor DPaT (acellular) contain thymerosol.

Chuck

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sounds like it could be! those are def some of the symptoms....and you know what

they say if you havent been told its all in your head you dont have lyme, thats

just a joke umong some of us lymies...good luckk

Begley - Temporary Placement Manager

From: Geri Logan <hotwheels@...>

Subject: [ ] ?

Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 4:09 PM

 

Group,

My friend is very sick today..W/a fever and chills..Is this part of lymes?We

have for some time suspected that he has Lymes but has not been able to get

help. His doc thinks it is all in his mind, I see Russ being in more pain as

time goes on..today he can hardly walk and even his skin hurts part of

limes?...... .What to do? Limited Ins! and he hasn't much money.

Don't know how to get the doc to hear him!With out him think he is crazy!

Thanks

Geri

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Sounds like its possible. I would suggest going to an LLMD and see what he/she

says. It took me years to find out, even went to the best docs in New York,

some said it was in my head, and others said I need a vacation, I worked to

hard, and throw in CFS and Fibro etc. Only when I went to a LLMD in New Jersey

was I diagnosed with Lyme and co-infections. So I suggest getting checked for

co-infections also, for that too can create a whole bunch of other problems.

Good luck to your friend in this journey....

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We need to find a LLMD to call, in our area.

Little Falls Minnesota....he is still.sick.

Geri

Sounds like its possible. I would suggest going to an LLMD and see what

he/she says. It took me years to find out, even went to the best docs in New

York, some said it was in my head, and others said I need a vacation, I worked

to hard, and throw in CFS and Fibro etc. Only when I went to a LLMD in New

Jersey was I diagnosed with Lyme and co-infections. So I suggest getting checked

for co-infections also, for that too can create a whole bunch of other problems.

Good luck to your friend in this journey....

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My brother is located in MN and treats lyme:

Sult, MD[image: Photo of Sult]

*Integracare*

100 2nd St S

Sartell, MN 56377

Phone: *(320) 251-2600*

To

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Geri Logan <hotwheels@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> We need to find a LLMD to call, in our area.

> Little Falls Minnesota....he is still.sick.

> Geri

>

> Sounds like its possible. I would suggest going to an LLMD and see what

> he/she says. It took me years to find out, even went to the best docs in New

> York, some said it was in my head, and others said I need a vacation, I

> worked to hard, and throw in CFS and Fibro etc. Only when I went to a LLMD

> in New Jersey was I diagnosed with Lyme and co-infections. So I suggest

> getting checked for co-infections also, for that too can create a whole

> bunch of other problems.

> Good luck to your friend in this journey....

>

>

>

>

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Dr Sult is no longer taking lymes patents at this time my mom goes to him and

that's what the nurse told said.It is very expensive but then she is lucky to

have good ins..I think we may be in trouble that way.Going to call and see.

Thank you

Geri

My brother is located in MN and treats lyme:

Sult, MD[image: Photo of Sult]

*Integracare*

100 2nd St S

Sartell, MN 56377

Phone: *(320) 251-2600*

To

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Geri Logan <hotwheels@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> We need to find a LLMD to call, in our area.

> Little Falls Minnesota....he is still.sick.

> Geri

>

> Sounds like its possible. I would suggest going to an LLMD and see what

> he/she says. It took me years to find out, even went to the best docs in New

> York, some said it was in my head, and others said I need a vacation, I

> worked to hard, and throw in CFS and Fibro etc. Only when I went to a LLMD

> in New Jersey was I diagnosed with Lyme and co-infections. So I suggest

> getting checked for co-infections also, for that too can create a whole

> bunch of other problems.

> Good luck to your friend in this journey....

>

>

>

>

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It [robabyl wasn't the best idea to post such information on a public site \like

this. Theres no telling who could get a hold on where his practice is and what

they do now. Anyway i just urge you do that through private email, because it

could be detramental to your brother's practice possibly. Not to be all

know-it-all, but you never know. I am not one to think bad, but it is good to be

safe.

Good luck Geri!

\Elaina

>

>

>

> We need to find a LLMD to call, in our area.

> Little Falls Minnesota... .he is still.sick.

> Geri

>

> Sounds like its possible. I would suggest going to an LLMD and see what

> he/she says. It took me years to find out, even went to the best docs in New

> York, some said it was in my head, and others said I need a vacation, I

> worked to hard, and throw in CFS and Fibro etc. Only when I went to a LLMD

> in New Jersey was I diagnosed with Lyme and co-infections. So I suggest

> getting checked for co-infections also, for that too can create a whole

> bunch of other problems.

> Good luck to your friend in this journey....

>

>

>

>

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Well, they be able to refer to you someone else who is lyme savy.. Good

luck!

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Geri Logan <hotwheels@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Dr Sult is no longer taking lymes patents at this time my mom goes to him

> and that's what the nurse told said.It is very expensive but then she is

> lucky to have good ins..I think we may be in trouble that way.Going to call

> and see.

> Thank you

> Geri

>

>

> My brother is located in MN and treats lyme:

> Sult, MD[image: Photo of Sult]

> *Integracare*

> 100 2nd St S

> Sartell, MN 56377

>

> Phone: *(320) 251-2600*

>

> To

>

> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Geri Logan

<hotwheels@...<hotwheels%40brainerd.net>>

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> > We need to find a LLMD to call, in our area.

> > Little Falls Minnesota....he is still.sick.

> > Geri

> >

> > Sounds like its possible. I would suggest going to an LLMD and see what

> > he/she says. It took me years to find out, even went to the best docs in

> New

> > York, some said it was in my head, and others said I need a vacation, I

> > worked to hard, and throw in CFS and Fibro etc. Only when I went to a

> LLMD

> > in New Jersey was I diagnosed with Lyme and co-infections. So I suggest

> > getting checked for co-infections also, for that too can create a whole

> > bunch of other problems.

> > Good luck to your friend in this journey....

> >

> >

> >

> >

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we are trying,problen is..INS also! The lymes docs are very far away .......

Geri

Well, they be able to refer to you someone else who is lyme savy.. Good

luck!

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Geri Logan <hotwheels@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Dr Sult is no longer taking lymes patents at this time my mom goes to him

> and that's what the nurse told said.It is very expensive but then she is

> lucky to have good ins..I think we may be in trouble that way.Going to call

> and see.

> Thank you

> Geri

>

>

> My brother is located in MN and treats lyme:

> Sult, MD[image: Photo of Sult]

> *Integracare*

> 100 2nd St S

> Sartell, MN 56377

>

> Phone: *(320) 251-2600*

>

> To

>

> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Geri Logan

<hotwheels@...<hotwheels%40brainerd.net>>

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> > We need to find a LLMD to call, in our area.

> > Little Falls Minnesota....he is still.sick.

> > Geri

> >

> > Sounds like its possible. I would suggest going to an LLMD and see what

> > he/she says. It took me years to find out, even went to the best docs in

> New

> > York, some said it was in my head, and others said I need a vacation, I

> > worked to hard, and throw in CFS and Fibro etc. Only when I went to a

> LLMD

> > in New Jersey was I diagnosed with Lyme and co-infections. So I suggest

> > getting checked for co-infections also, for that too can create a whole

> > bunch of other problems.

> > Good luck to your friend in this journey....

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi ,

The other day I spoke to her husband. They were still working on pain control

for but otherwise she was doing great. She is not answering her cell so I

haven't been able to speak with her directly.

I read you had a date! Wow! After all this time .... :) You will do fine after

all, he is one of the best. C

>

> Hi C -

> Any more news on ?? I'm anxious to hear how things are going? Also, as

you have probably read by now, I've seen Dr. Glazer again and have a revision

date of March 15!

> D (RI)

>

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Yes, he is one of the best!! And I'm delighted and humbled to be in such great

hands. I recently spoke with Joanne Chertok - she had her surgery with Glazer

almost 5 years ago and she told me that she has been painfree for almost as long

and doing great too! She said he gave her a whole new lease on life and she

couldn't be better!! Got to love it! He sure has an excess of success stories

and I plan on being one of them too!!

D (RI)

> >

> > Hi C -

> > Any more news on ?? I'm anxious to hear how things are going? Also,

as you have probably read by now, I've seen Dr. Glazer again and have a revision

date of March 15!

> > D (RI)

> >

>

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Hello! any person who has had Dr. Aceves for your wls live in the Panama City Florida area? We just moved here from Las Vegas where we were living at the time of my band. joanne

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I live in Yuma about 1hr and 1/2 from Mexicali and it is really bad for us. My pool is flooded over along with all the roads. The winds are up to almost 100 miles an hour. And it is still going I have lived in Arizona for 3yrs now and never seen anything like this before.>> Did you all see the big storm over Mexicali today? http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?product=N0R & rid=yux & loop=yes> > Marilou> Dr. Aceves> VSG~February 5, 2010>

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Your in the right place. Everyone in here is very helpful. Your not alone. I

found out about 9mo. ago and still have my days of denial but my not feeling

good all the time brings me back to the world to. I'm getting ready to start

treatment anytime, just waiting for the medicines to arrive. I have a dr. app.

on tuesday to get some shots for other stuff and sign some more papers. I

scared, no I'm petrified but I figure that I'm sick all the time now and if this

works it will be worth it. Don't ever be afraid to ask a question in here, as a

matter of fact ask alot of them, if someone don't already know the answer they

will help you find it.

Sheri

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Hepatitis C

Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 11:38:30 AM

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1st time texter!

I have learned 2 yrs. ago I have the curse.

I'm in denial. I need some help here

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It's not a curse, and you're not alone.  There's lots of interesting

information on this web site.  CDC has information.  What have you done yet? 

J

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Subject: ?

Hepatitis C

Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 11:38 AM

 

1st time texter!

I have learned 2 yrs. ago I have the curse.

I'm in denial. I need some help here

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I've been take some " natural supplement " antioxidants and other herbs, never

have felt sick and can't afford the expensive the internist want to put me on. 

Jackie

From: Sheri Sheeder <sherisheeder@...>

Subject: Re: ?

Hepatitis C

Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 5:00 PM

 

Your in the right place. Everyone in here is very helpful. Your not alone. I

found out about 9mo. ago and still have my days of denial but my not feeling

good all the time brings me back to the world to. I'm getting ready to start

treatment anytime, just waiting for the medicines to arrive. I have a dr. app.

on tuesday to get some shots for other stuff and sign some more papers. I

scared, no I'm petrified but I figure that I'm sick all the time now and if this

works it will be worth it. Don't ever be afraid to ask a question in here, as a

matter of fact ask alot of them, if someone don't already know the answer they

will help you find it.

Sheri

____________ _________ _________ __

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Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

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1st time texter!

I have learned 2 yrs. ago I have the curse.

I'm in denial. I need some help here

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Yes there are many of us out here for u.  It's not a curse.  In a way it's

been a blessing as I have appreciated every day more since I was diagnosed 30

years ago last month.  Do all the things u enjoy but put off starting tomorrow,

fulfill every desire within measure, do something kind for someone every day,

adopt a cat or dog from The  SPCA,  help those who are old or infirmed worse

than u.  Believe me, u will feel better about your own condition and it will

come back to you.  It's the pay it forward thoughts.

 

Patti

From: yp_julie_braintree <julieat575@...>

Subject: ?

Hepatitis C

Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 11:38 AM

 

1st time texter!

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I'm in denial. I need some help here

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I'm getting my medicines through the pegassist program, it's through the company

that make the stuff, Roche. But to apply for help you have to go to the

pegassist website, they also have alot of information on there as well.

For the past couple of years the dr's couldn't figure out why I was always under

the weather, most the time they said they couldn't find anything wrong and that

I must just have a cold or be over doing it and getting wore out and it's just

my body telling me to slow down and sleep more. Then nine months ago a dr. ran a

bunch of test during a follow up visit after I had a mini stroke and noticed

that my liver count was high so he ran the hep test and it was positive, so I've

been seeing a liver specialist ever since. I have never used IV drugs and the

best we can come up with is that I got it 25yrs ago when I was given blood after

my youngest daughter was born. They don't usually test for hepititis unless they

think you have it and that's why I wasn't diagnosed earlier.

Have a goodnight everyone.

Sheri

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From: Jackie Ware <bchgirl49@...>

Hepatitis C

Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 5:35:53 PM

Subject: Re: ?

 

I've been take some " natural supplement " antioxidants and other herbs, never

have felt sick and can't afford the expensive the internist want to put me on. 

Jackie

From: Sheri Sheeder <sherisheeder@ ymail.com>

Subject: Re: ?

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 5:00 PM

 

Your in the right place. Everyone in here is very helpful. Your not alone. I

found out about 9mo. ago and still have my days of denial but my not feeling

good all the time brings me back to the world to. I'm getting ready to start

treatment anytime, just waiting for the medicines to arrive. I have a dr. app.

on tuesday to get some shots for other stuff and sign some more papers. I

scared, no I'm petrified but I figure that I'm sick all the time now and if this

works it will be worth it. Don't ever be afraid to ask a question in here, as a

matter of fact ask alot of them, if someone don't already know the answer they

will help you find it.

Sheri

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1st time texter!

I have learned 2 yrs. ago I have the curse.

I'm in denial. I need some help here

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hi,im only 34 and i have all this medical problem.my doctor just told me that i

have hep c im scare i dont know what to do its been like a month an  im still

waiting for the medicine to come thew.i know that everything will be ok.

________________________________

From: Sheri Sheeder <sherisheeder@...>

Hepatitis C

Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 6:00:04 PM

Subject: Re: ?

 

Your in the right place. Everyone in here is very helpful. Your not alone. I

found out about 9mo. ago and still have my days of denial but my not feeling

good all the time brings me back to the world to. I'm getting ready to start

treatment anytime, just waiting for the medicines to arrive. I have a dr. app.

on tuesday to get some shots for other stuff and sign some more papers. I

scared, no I'm petrified but I figure that I'm sick all the time now and if this

works it will be worth it. Don't ever be afraid to ask a question in here, as a

matter of fact ask alot of them, if someone don't already know the answer they

will help you find it.

Sheri

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From: yp_julie_braintree <julieat575 (DOT) com>

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 11:38:30 AM

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1st time texter!

I have learned 2 yrs. ago I have the curse.

I'm in denial. I need some help here

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From: Sheri Sheeder <sherisheeder@...>

Hepatitis C

Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 6:00:04 PM

Subject: Re: ?

Your in the right place. Everyone in here is very helpful. Your not alone. I

found out about 9mo. ago and still have my days of denial but my not feeling

good all the time brings me back to the world to. I'm getting ready to start

treatment anytime, just waiting for the medicines to arrive. I have a dr. app.

on tuesday to get some shots for other stuff and sign some more papers. I

scared, no I'm petrified but I figure that I'm sick all the time now and if this

works it will be worth it. Don't ever be afraid to ask a question in here, as a

matter of fact ask alot of them, if someone don't already know the answer they

will help you find it.

Sheri

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Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 11:38:30 AM

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1st time texter!

I have learned 2 yrs. ago I have the curse.

I'm in denial. I need some help here

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Let me know how the pegasys works.  That was one of my concerns as I didn't

think I would be able to continue work, I'm 60, and live by myself.  Jackie

From: Sheri Sheeder <sherisheeder@ ymail.com>

Subject: Re: ?

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 5:00 PM

 

Your in the right place. Everyone in here is very helpful. Your not alone. I

found out about 9mo. ago and still have my days of denial but my not feeling

good all the time brings me back to the world to. I'm getting ready to start

treatment anytime, just waiting for the medicines to arrive. I have a dr. app.

on tuesday to get some shots for other stuff and sign some more papers. I

scared, no I'm petrified but I figure that I'm sick all the time now and if this

works it will be worth it. Don't ever be afraid to ask a question in here, as a

matter of fact ask alot of them, if someone don't already know the answer they

will help you find it.

Sheri

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Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 11:38:30 AM

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1st time texter!

I have learned 2 yrs. ago I have the curse.

I'm in denial. I need some help here

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I will let everyone know how I'm doing, I'm thinking about getting a lap top so

if I have days were I'm sick in bed I can still play on the computer. My

boyfriend says I will be in bed to rest not play on facebook. Lol. I'm there

alot so come find me if you like, I'm the only one listed as Sheri Sheeder, and

I would love the company.

Sheri

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From: Jackie Ware <bchgirl49@...>

Hepatitis C

Sent: Sun, March 14, 2010 11:08:30 AM

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Let me know how the pegasys works.  That was one of my concerns as I didn't

think I would be able to continue work, I'm 60, and live by myself.  Jackie

From: Sheri Sheeder <sherisheeder@ ymail.com>

Subject: Re: ?

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 5:00 PM

 

Your in the right place. Everyone in here is very helpful. Your not alone. I

found out about 9mo. ago and still have my days of denial but my not feeling

good all the time brings me back to the world to. I'm getting ready to start

treatment anytime, just waiting for the medicines to arrive. I have a dr. app.

on tuesday to get some shots for other stuff and sign some more papers. I

scared, no I'm petrified but I figure that I'm sick all the time now and if this

works it will be worth it. Don't ever be afraid to ask a question in here, as a

matter of fact ask alot of them, if someone don't already know the answer they

will help you find it.

Sheri

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From: yp_julie_braintree <julieat575@ . com>

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 11:38:30 AM

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1st time texter!

I have learned 2 yrs. ago I have the curse.

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Sheri, please keep me posted on how the medicine works for you and you're in my

thoughts.  Jackie

From: Sheri Sheeder <sherisheeder@ ymail.com>

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Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 5:00 PM

 

Your in the right place. Everyone in here is very helpful. Your not alone. I

found out about 9mo. ago and still have my days of denial but my not feeling

good all the time brings me back to the world to. I'm getting ready to start

treatment anytime, just waiting for the medicines to arrive. I have a dr. app.

on tuesday to get some shots for other stuff and sign some more papers. I

scared, no I'm petrified but I figure that I'm sick all the time now and if this

works it will be worth it. Don't ever be afraid to ask a question in here, as a

matter of fact ask alot of them, if someone don't already know the answer they

will help you find it.

Sheri

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From: yp_julie_braintree <julieat575@ . com>

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 11:38:30 AM

Subject: ?

 

1st time texter!

I have learned 2 yrs. ago I have the curse.

I'm in denial. I need some help here

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