Re: How important is having a low oxylates diet?

[Guest guest]

It's really hard to say, it's my impression that lots of people with

leaky gut don't have an oxalate problem. I didn't actually look into

this as much as I had intended, just removed some very high oxalate

foods (almonds, chocolate, spinach which I was sneaking into pesto).

we didn't do a low-oxalate diet, just avoided high oxalates, if that

makes sense. It's my understanding that in a healthy gut oxalates are

absorbed or neutralized by good bacteria so an oxalate problem

indicates the absence of certain probiotics.

An organic Acid Test measures oxalic acid levels, so if you've had

that done you can check. In my son, if he ate food with lots of

oxalates he'd get irritable and sometimes get sudden pain in his eyes,

which is classic for oxalates. I'd suspect high oxalate levels in a

kid who does a lot of rubbing the eyes, does any self-injurious

behavior to the eyes or around the eyes. It can cause sudden pains in

other soft tissue as well so the eyes aren't indicative. I really

don't know how common this is so I wouldn't take a kid off of almond

milk if they are doing fine on it unless you want to see if there's a

difference. There's a group called Trying_Low_Oxalates that has

lots of info.

Oxalates are tiny crystals and can clog small passages or openings in

the body. Many kids on the spectrum seem to have reduced blood flow

to the brain, and my DAN! thinks that this can be caused by oxalate

buildup. Also, a few months ago my son's penis got really swollen and

purple- looked like a blood vessel had gotten plugged- and again doc

thought it could have been from oxalates. I'm not trying to freak

people out, just wanted to mention that this can be a consideration

with eating almonds or almond products. I'd look into it more before

just taking a kid off of a food that seems to work out well for them.

-Sierra

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> I was so happy to find almond milk to replace dairy milk and rice

> milk, but I've read that it's a high oxylate food (as well as high

> phenol).

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> Are oxylates something to mostly avoid if there is a leaky gut?

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> Did you find that removing them caused improvement?

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> My son didn't like the hemp milk, but if almond milk is hurting then

> we have no choice.

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> Thanks,

>

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[Guest guest]

Sierra, thank you so much for the info. It really helps to know that

about the eyes. I have noticed recently that he's been doing a lot of

eye poking, blinking, and squinting. I've been adding spinach to his

juice too and, so, if this is a problem, I think it may be worsened by

the spinach in addition to all the almond milk.

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> > I was so happy to find almond milk to replace dairy milk and rice

> > milk, but I've read that it's a high oxylate food (as well as high

> > phenol).

> >

> > Are oxylates something to mostly avoid if there is a leaky gut?

> >

> > Did you find that removing them caused improvement?

> >

> > My son didn't like the hemp milk, but if almond milk is hurting then

> > we have no choice.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

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> I was so happy to find almond milk to replace dairy milk and rice

> milk, but I've read that it's a high oxylate food (as well as high

> phenol).

> Are oxylates something to mostly avoid if there is a leaky gut?

Depends. Many people are giving B6/magnesium instead of entirely

removing the high oxalates, so you can try that if you want, see if it

helps.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Dana. I've noticed gains with the B6 and mag so that's good to

know. I may just cut back on the oxalates, but not totally remove them.

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> > I was so happy to find almond milk to replace dairy milk and rice

> > milk, but I've read that it's a high oxylate food (as well as high

> > phenol).

> > Are oxylates something to mostly avoid if there is a leaky gut?

>

>

> Depends. Many people are giving B6/magnesium instead of entirely

> removing the high oxalates, so you can try that if you want, see if it

> helps.

>

> Dana

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