child is raging...please help

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My 11 yr. old ds is raging now and I don't know why. He started 10 days ago on

100mg

SAM-e and was tantrum-free for 10 days. Then, 3 days ago we started on 200mg.

Today

he has had 2 tantrums and is raging now because I " gave him a choice between 2

things. "

Apparently I should know that he can't make choices. He was completely calm

before this

happened. He had just had his evening compounded vitamins (from Pfeiffer) and

his CLO

and Nystatin for yeast issues. He's been on Nystatin or Diflucan since

July...mostly

Nystatin. I don't think it's die off at this point. He had complained yesterday

of getting a

bad stomach ache after GABA so last night I didn't give it to him and then he

had a tantrum

this morning. So I gave him GABA after that and I am about to give it to him

now. We are

going to have to phase it out because the stomach aches are becoming bad even

when he

takes it with food. We will switch to Inositol. He had tried it in July but it

kept him awake

so I'm not sure how he will tolerate it but I'm willing to give it a try as I

understand it helps

with OCD which he has had since May. I know I'm rambling but I am wondering if

any of

this will trigger a thought in any of you that could help him. Tomorrow he has a

half day

at school and is then on break for 3 weeks. So if he is having a problem with

the 200 mg

of SAM-e we can still try to stay on it for a few more days and see how he does.

We

genuinely saw an improvement on the 100 mg and the doctor feels that he should

take

200- 400 mg for his weight. So I want to give the 200 mg a chance. What do you

all think?

Has anyone had this happen with increasing SAM-e? Or is it just that he missed

the GABA

last night? God, I was just starting to feel we had a Christmas miracle on our

hands and

now this. Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

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> My 11 yr. old ds is raging now and I don't know why. He started 10

days ago on 100mg

> SAM-e and was tantrum-free for 10 days. Then, 3 days ago we started

on 200mg. Today

> he has had 2 tantrums and is raging now

Too much SAMe caused problems here. Try dropping it for a day or two,

then go back to the previous dose.

>>I understand it helps

> with OCD

At my house, OCD was mostly viral, altho yeast and B vitamin

deficiency also contributed.

Dana

[Guest guest]

We use SAM-e to address high histamine levels, which causes one of my

kids to rage. We noticed that the histamine seemed to cause his

symptoms to flare as it came back out through his system. This could

be a good sign that it is working, but you could reduce again and

bring it out more slowly if the raging is too much to take. Vitamin C

helps with this for us, and so does calcium (the calcium pulls the

histamine out of the tissues and the vitamin C flushes it out of the

body). You can also avoid high histamine foods such as tomatoes,

berries and seafood at this time since his system may be overwhelmed

with amines.

BTW, I just read in the Gut and Psychology Syndrome book that some

bacteria in the gut produce histamine and that this can be the cause

of high histamine levels in the blood and all the problems that go

along with that.

HTH

-Sierra

> >

> > My 11 yr. old ds is raging now and I don't know why. He started 10

> days ago on 100mg

> > SAM-e and was tantrum-free for 10 days. Then, 3 days ago we started

> on 200mg. Today

> > he has had 2 tantrums and is raging now

>

>

> Too much SAMe caused problems here. Try dropping it for a day or two,

> then go back to the previous dose.

>

>

> >>I understand it helps

> > with OCD

>

>

> At my house, OCD was mostly viral, altho yeast and B vitamin

> deficiency also contributed.

>

> Dana

>