Guest guest Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Dana, Thanks for getting back to me on this, you confirmed my suspicions. Can you tell me how many miligrams of each, how often, what brand and for how long you used? Any side effects of die off? > > > > My son was put on Inositol recently for his OCD but it hasn't made any > > change in his behavior. In December, he was started on 5HTP and > > Glycine for his outbursts, which helped for a while but recently have > > been back up. Since January he's been sick 3 times. > > > At my house, OCD was related to strep [a bacteria, which I eliminated > with OLE] and viruses, which I eliminated also with OLE, and vitamin C > and lysine. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 --Sounds like he has strep issues[ocd] ,and due to chronic antibiotic use he likely has alot of yeast. Has anyone done a cdsa? I would try some natural anti bacterial,and anti yeast protocols simultaneously[as these like to mutate back and forth] He will need a high probiotic about 50-100 billion per dat. - In , " krs111 " <krs111@...> wrote: > > Listmates, > I was just wondering which enzyme you think helps most with OCD symptoms, Peptizide or Zyme Prime? My nephew with Asperger's tested negative for casein and gluten in urine and he is already a happy child, but he talks obsessively about certain things. Also has a history of chronic antibiotic use. > Thanks, > Kathy > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 What is a good anti bacterial and anti yeast protocol to do at the same time that is natural approach? anyone have anything to try that worked and do you do them at the same time or apart from each other in the same day....and for how long do you do this treatment? sammysouthie <sammysouthie@...> wrote: --Sounds like he has strep issues[ocd] ,and due to chronic antibiotic use he likely has alot of yeast. Has anyone done a cdsa? I would try some natural anti bacterial,and anti yeast protocols simultaneously[as these like to mutate back and forth] He will need a high probiotic about 50-100 billion per dat. - In , " krs111 " <krs111@...> wrote: > > Listmates, > I was just wondering which enzyme you think helps most with OCD symptoms, Peptizide or Zyme Prime? My nephew with Asperger's tested negative for casein and gluten in urine and he is already a happy child, but he talks obsessively about certain things. Also has a history of chronic antibiotic use. > Thanks, > Kathy > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 What nutritional supplements help ocd? Thanks, D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Can we call it " cdo " to keep it in alphabetical order? Laurie P.S. I am also looking for ideas on how to treat this. (Hope not to offend anyone. Just looking for a little humor.) **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 > > What nutritional supplements help ocd? At my house, B vitamins, anti-virals, and anti-fungals. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Thanks. I had remembered reading about it, but couldn't remember the details nor find it in my saved material. Our son has developed multiple problems in this area and it seems to be getting worse as he gets older. I wanted to try this before we resorted to drugs. Do you have further info somewhere on your website. If so, how do I access it? D. From: danasview <danasview@...> Subject: Re: ocd Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 9:59 AM > > What nutritional supplements help ocd? At my house, B vitamins, anti-virals, and anti-fungals. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 > > Thanks. I had remembered reading about it, but couldn't remember the details nor find it in my saved material. Our son has developed multiple problems in this area and it seems to be getting worse as he gets older. I wanted to try this before we resorted to drugs. > Do you have further info somewhere on your website. If so, how do I access it? Probably most of my info on this subject is written on my son's page, on the " anti-viral " links which are at the bottom http://www.danasview.net/myson.htm Basically, I eliminated viruses here with OLE, Virastop, vitamin C, and lysine. Viral die off caused a LOT of yeast overgrowth, which I eliminated with biotin and GSE. mB12 and a multi-B was required. B12 required folic acid and carnitine for proper absorption. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Did you know that drinking enough (2 liters meaning about 9 big glasses for an adult) water (not soda, juice and especially not orange, bubbles) and putting salt on the tip of your tongue after drinking a couple of times a day has often been very useful for lowering allergies. It takes up to 4 weeks to see the impact of proper hydration on histamine levels, but it can also be much quicker. Histamine is a sensor regulator of water metabolism and its distribution in the body, It is also an agent that has responsabilities in the body's immune defense of course as you know. So when the body gets dehydrated histamine increases a lot. Salt on the other hand is a natural anithistamine and is also useful to help breaking mucus in the lungs when you get asthma or allergies. Several severe cases of allergy and asthma have been treated with this simple remedy. It might also be that our kids need more water than average kid because of gut problems and all the detox they are doing. Why don't you try this for a couple of weeks and tell us about it? Not risky and not expensive anyway! see watercure.com and 'your body's many cries for water' Senta > > > > Can we call it " cdo " to keep it in alphabetical order? > > > > Laurie > > > > P.S. I am also looking for ideas on how to treat this. > > > > (Hope not to offend anyone. Just looking for a little humor.) > > > > > > > > ************ **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your > budget? > > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > > > (http://autos. aol.com/cars- BMW-128-2008/ expert-review? ncid=aolaut00050 000000017 > ) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Wow, Senta, I'd never heard of this but it makes sense. Thanks for passing along the information! -Sierra > > Did you know that drinking enough (2 liters meaning about 9 big glasses for an adult) > water (not soda, juice and especially not orange, bubbles) > and putting salt on the tip of your tongue after drinking a couple of times a day has often > been very useful for lowering allergies. It takes up to 4 weeks to see the impact of proper > hydration on histamine levels, but it can also be much quicker. > > Histamine is a sensor regulator of water metabolism and its distribution in the body, It is > also an agent that has responsabilities in the body's immune defense of course as you > know. So when the body gets dehydrated histamine increases a lot. > Salt on the other hand is a natural anithistamine and is also useful to help breaking > mucus in the lungs when you get asthma or allergies. > > Several severe cases of allergy and asthma have been treated with this simple remedy. It > might also be that our kids need more water than average kid because of gut problems > and all the detox they are doing. > > Why don't you try this for a couple of weeks and tell us about it? Not risky and not > expensive anyway! > > see watercure.com and 'your body's many cries for water' > > Senta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Every once in a while I have a day like that too, I only have one son, sometimes I either go for a bath or go n lie down for a while, my husband never seems to take a hint that this means I need a break, so within minutes my son is either "helping me" shampoo or in bed with me, either way I kinda come round, dry my tears and get on with life as we know it. I guess we all need a bit of space sometimes, my other small piece of sanity is going to the gym 4 times a week and jumping around like a maniac til I have no stress left! Hope today is better than yesterday. Lor B From: Debra Balke <dlbalke@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Re: OCD @...Date: Thursday, 17 December, 2009, 0:55 Hi guys. I am having a down day. It is one of those days that you don't just look one hour ahead but you look five years down the road and are horrified and can't face that much of it all at once.. I think I am going to go to bed after dinner, let the kids go nuts in the house and not worry about the mess, and get up in the morning hoping I feel better. I have told them I am grumpy, can't be nice, and I am going in my room to hide. Hopefully nothing will burn down while I am in here. Some days are just like this. It is all way, way, way too much to do..... ( ) Re: OCD My AS daughter also has OCD traits. At age 7 she too had issues with germs, handwashing, wanting to take showers, fear she touched something.Because of the AS she does not respond or cooperate with therapy that tries to explain to her that the OCDis making her want to wash. She does respond to a type of Exposure Response Prevention that is part facts and part behavioral.She responds to some social stories like the schools overstatethe handwashing because some kids don't wash at all.You only have to wash after the bathroom and before you eat.That is it. I had her go to the bathroom in the nurses officein first grade so she could make sure she was not overwashing.She also responds to rules the rule is you can take a shower once in the evening and that is it. It can only last 30 min or less.I told her the germs at home we are use too. She doesn't seem to worry too much about contamination at home. But she is worried that I don't wash soap bubblesoff things enough. I did start her on Zoloft this summer 50 mg at age 11. I was surprised it stopped the sensitivity to socks and clothesand that her panic reaction to loud noises was helped. Her obsessiveness was reduced but not eliminated.She thought the medicine was poison too. I had to start her on a crumb of zoloft and stay at that until she was comfortable.It took over 2 months to get to 50mg but she had no adverse reactions at all. I am sorry we didn't try this sooner. If you trial prozac or zoloft (both prescribed for OCD) slowly very slowly and very gradual increases you can advert any adverse reaactions. If you see an increase in agitation you just stop the medication. That is it. The trial is over, it didn't work. My daughter's anxiety got so bad in 5th grade she stopped going to school.The combination of OCD and AS is tough to treat with just therapy.Pam sI ca the gernssjat eBpye t >> My 8 year old son was always a bit OCD but it's gotten much worse. He has to wash his hands, and if someone else touches his clothes, he wants to wash off his clothes. For example, we were sitting on a bench and an elderly man was sitting with his wife on the bench also. The man's hat was on the bench next to him and my son's leg brushed against it--we had to find a bathroom to wash off my son's pants.> He woke up in the night last night wanting to wash again and was up for hours. I don't want to use medication. Have any of you dealt with this before and how did you handle it. Our psychologist gave us a book about OCD and I'm going to read it today--hopefully it has some ideas. Thank you for any help.> > maureen> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Oh Debra... I'm so sorry that yesterday was "the breaking point". I hope you feel better this morning........ Hugs.... Robin From: Debra Balke <dlbalke@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Re: OCD @...Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 6:55 PM Hi guys. I am having a down day. It is one of those days that you don't just look one hour ahead but you look five years down the road and are horrified and can't face that much of it all at once.. I think I am going to go to bed after dinner, let the kids go nuts in the house and not worry about the mess, and get up in the morning hoping I feel better. I have told them I am grumpy, can't be nice, and I am going in my room to hide. Hopefully nothing will burn down while I am in here. Some days are just like this. It is all way, way, way too much to do..... ( ) Re: OCD My AS daughter also has OCD traits. At age 7 she too had issues with germs, handwashing, wanting to take showers, fear she touched something.Because of the AS she does not respond or cooperate with therapy that tries to explain to her that the OCDis making her want to wash. She does respond to a type of Exposure Response Prevention that is part facts and part behavioral.She responds to some social stories like the schools overstatethe handwashing because some kids don't wash at all.You only have to wash after the bathroom and before you eat.That is it. I had her go to the bathroom in the nurses officein first grade so she could make sure she was not overwashing.She also responds to rules the rule is you can take a shower once in the evening and that is it. It can only last 30 min or less.I told her the germs at home we are use too. She doesn't seem to worry too much about contamination at home. But she is worried that I don't wash soap bubblesoff things enough. I did start her on Zoloft this summer 50 mg at age 11. I was surprised it stopped the sensitivity to socks and clothesand that her panic reaction to loud noises was helped. Her obsessiveness was reduced but not eliminated.She thought the medicine was poison too. I had to start her on a crumb of zoloft and stay at that until she was comfortable.It took over 2 months to get to 50mg but she had no adverse reactions at all. I am sorry we didn't try this sooner. If you trial prozac or zoloft (both prescribed for OCD) slowly very slowly and very gradual increases you can advert any adverse reaactions. If you see an increase in agitation you just stop the medication. That is it. The trial is over, it didn't work. My daughter's anxiety got so bad in 5th grade she stopped going to school.The combination of OCD and AS is tough to treat with just therapy.Pam sI ca the gernssjat eBpye t >> My 8 year old son was always a bit OCD but it's gotten much worse. He has to wash his hands, and if someone else touches his clothes, he wants to wash off his clothes. For example, we were sitting on a bench and an elderly man was sitting with his wife on the bench also. The man's hat was on the bench next to him and my son's leg brushed against it--we had to find a bathroom to wash off my son's pants.> He woke up in the night last night wanting to wash again and was up for hours. I don't want to use medication. Have any of you dealt with this before and how did you handle it. Our psychologist gave us a book about OCD and I'm going to read it today--hopefully it has some ideas. Thank you for any help.> > maureen> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 This group is wonderful! It helps to know I am not alone, that alone helps my sanity. My daughter (5) had a lesson in germs in Kindergarten mid October. The teacher called me panicked as my daughter was standing in the middle of the room with her hands in the air trembling and screaming and sobbing uncontrollably afraid to touch anything. When I got to the school 15 minutes later she was still sobbing and refusing to touch anything or even sit down, thankfully she let me touch her. We are still working on this, thankfully we have gotten her down from her 40 or so hand washings a day, but it is still a struggle. She still asks before/when she touches anything outside of the house if it is dirty and has germs on it, and also still panics if she eats something if she had not washed her hands just minutes prior. Also, she will not eat anything unless it is on a plate where it cannot touch anything (ie, no serving a banana or a cookie on a placemat or napkin) and refuses to eat anything if it has been left out over ½ hour as she thinks germs may have gotten on it. I have started carrying anti-bacterial wet wipes with me everywhere to help her with this (the reason we are not hand washing constantly), as she gets so worried just touching a doorknob or hand railing. One good thing is it completely and very quickly cured her of her nail biting habit! Amie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009  Oh thank you so much for this. Some days I think it will never, ever, ever end.... It helped so much reading your email. OK. Maybe one more day I can do this. ( ) Re: OCD My AS daughter also has OCD traits. At age 7 she too had issues withgerms, handwashing, wanting to take showers, fear she touchedsomething.Because of the AS she does not respond or cooperate withtherapy that tries to explain to her that the OCDis making her want to wash.She does respond to a type of Exposure Response Preventionthat is part facts and part behavioral.She responds to some social stories like the schools overstatethe handwashing because some kids don't wash at all.You only have to wash after the bathroom and before you eat.That is it. I had her go to the bathroom in the nurses officein first grade so she could make sure she was not overwashing.She also responds to rules the rule is you can take a shower oncein the evening and that is it. It can only last 30 min or less.I told her the germs at home we are use too.She doesn't seem to worry too much about contaminationat home. But she is worried that I don't wash soap bubblesoff things enough.I did start her on Zoloft this summer 50 mg at age 11.I was surprised it stopped the sensitivity to socks and clothesand that her panic reaction to loud noises was helped.Her obsessiveness was reduced but not eliminated.She thought the medicine was poison too. I had to start her on a crumb of zoloft and stay at that until she was comfortable.It took over 2 months to get to 50mg but she had no adverse reactions at all.I am sorry we didn't try this sooner. If you trial prozac or zoloft (both prescribed for OCD) slowly very slowly and very gradual increases you can advert any adverse reaactions. If you see an increase in agitation you just stop the medication. That isit. The trial is over, it didn't work.My daughter's anxiety got so bad in 5th grade she stopped going to school.The combination of OCD and AS is tough to treat with just therapy.PamsI cathe gernssjat eBpye t>> My 8 year old son was always a bit OCD but it's gotten much worse. He has to wash his hands, and if someone else touches his clothes, he wants to wash off his clothes. For example, we were sitting on a bench and an elderly man was sitting with his wife on the bench also. The man's hat was on the bench next to him and my son's leg brushed against it--we had to find a bathroom to wash off my son's pants.> He woke up in the night last night wanting to wash again and was up for hours. I don't want to use medication. Have any of you dealt with this before and how did you handle it. Our psychologist gave us a book about OCD and I'm going to read it today--hopefully it has some ideas. Thank you for any help.>> maureen> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 I would suggest getting her to a psychiatrist and obtaining medication for her. Hopefully, the medication will help her live a " normal " life without so many worries! Lindsey sen http://5kidswdisabilities.wordpress.com On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Amie <amiedawn1@...> wrote: This group is wonderful! It helps to know I am not alone, that alone helps my sanity.My daughter (5) had a lesson in germs in Kindergarten mid October. The teacher called me panicked as my daughter was standing in the middle of the room with her hands in the air trembling and screaming and sobbing uncontrollably afraid to touch anything. When I got to the school 15 minutes later she was still sobbing and refusing to touch anything or even sit down, thankfully she let me touch her. We are still working on this, thankfully we have gotten her down from her 40 or so hand washings a day, but it is still a struggle. She still asks before/when she touches anything outside of the house if it is dirty and has germs on it, and also still panics if she eats something if she had not washed her hands just minutes prior. Also, she will not eat anything unless it is on a plate where it cannot touch anything (ie, no serving a banana or a cookie on a placemat or napkin) and refuses to eat anything if it has been left out over ½ hour as she thinks germs may have gotten on it. I have started carrying anti-bacterial wet wipes with me everywhere to help her with this (the reason we are not hand washing constantly), as she gets so worried just touching a doorknob or hand railing. One good thing is it completely and very quickly cured her of her nail biting habit! Amie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 One more day, just keep that thought. It is sometimes so hard to look at the future too far - it's depressing and makes it hard to keep breathing, I know!!! So keep your goals and vision short term right now so you can maintain your sanity level!! When my 21 yo was in school still, they were going to train him to change the pop machines as a lifetime career. He had an obsession about that and it's probably not a bad job if he ever stresses out...but meanwhile, after school, he went to the career center for a 2 year computer course and excelled. The teacher told us he should apply to MIT or RIT and we just sort of looked at him like he was on a different planet...our kid? LOL. Between his dyslexia and autism, he was a mess when it came to school. While we knew he was a smart guy, we never thought anyone else would be noticing it. lol. Well, he's really very talented with computers but he never really started studying about them until he got done with high school. We had tried a number of things before that but nothing was sticking, nothing worked, everything fell apart. I was depressed just dealing with it! So I sure know how it feels...Right now my 13 yo is severely depressed and no meds are working and I don't know how I will survive another minute some days. When they are homeschooled, it is even harder because there is no break. So I definitely am " there " with you. I try to focus on short term goals and yes, somedays, let the house fall apart and go hide in your room! Recharge. It's required! Roxanna " The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. " E. Burke Re: ( ) Re: OCD  Oh thank you so much for this. Some days I think it will never, ever, ever end.... It helped so much reading your email. OK. Maybe one more day I can do this. ( ) Re: OCD  My AS daughter also has OCD traits. At age 7 she too had issues with germs, handwashing, wanting to take showers, fear she touched something. Because of the AS she does not respond or cooperate with therapy that tries to explain to her that the OCD is making her want to wash. She does respond to a type of Exposure Response Prevention that is part facts and part behavioral. She responds to some social stories like the schools overstate the handwashing because some kids don't wash at all. You only have to wash after the bathroom and before you eat. That is it. I had her go to the bathroom in the nurses office in first grade so she could make sure she was not overwashing. She also responds to rules the rule is you can take a shower once in the evening and that is it. It can only last 30 min or less. I told her the germs at home we are use too. She doesn't seem to worry too much about contamination at home. But she is worried that I don't wash soap bubbles off things enough. I did start her on Zoloft this summer 50 mg at age 11. I was surprised it stopped the sensitivity to socks and clothes and that her panic reaction to loud noises was helped. Her obsessiveness was reduced but not eliminated. She thought the medicine was poison too. I had to start her on a crumb of zoloft and stay at that until she was comfortable. It took over 2 months to get to 50mg but she had no adverse reactions at all. I am sorry we didn't try this sooner. If you trial prozac or zoloft (both prescribed for OCD) slowly very slowly and very gradual increases you can advert any adverse reaactions. If you see an increase in agitation you just stop the medication. That is it. The trial is over, it didn't work. My daughter's anxiety got so bad in 5th grade she stopped going to school. The combination of OCD and AS is tough to treat with just therapy. Pam sI ca the gernssjat eBpye t > > My 8 year old son was always a bit OCD but it's gotten much worse. He has to wash his hands, and if someone else touches his clothes, he wants to wash off his clothes. For example, we were sitting on a bench and an elderly man was sitting with his wife on the bench also. The man's hat was on the bench next to him and my son's leg brushed against it--we had to find a bathroom to wash off my son's pants. > He woke up in the night last night wanting to wash again and was up for hours. I don't want to use medication. Have any of you dealt with this before and how did you handle it. Our psychologist gave us a book about OCD and I'm going to read it today--hopefully it has some ideas. Thank you for any help. > > maureen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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