Guest guest Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Hi, My NT daughter always had reddish/purplish rings under her eyes starting at about 4-5 months of age (when we started infant formula). This continued for months. She did not have a gray face but it was more pale/yellowish. Since we were giving our son lots of supplements to help ASD symptoms we thought our daughter also had dysbiosis. So we started giving her probiotics, biotin and cod liver oil at ~12 months and she no longer has red/purple eyes and she looks and acts so much better. We recently stopped biotin for a couple weeks and the reddish/purple eyes and yellowish color came back again. Since starting biotin again it went away again. Have you tried biotin? From: Dayna Sable <Dgrundland@...> Subject: Why does my son look grey? Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 7:10 PM I have been going crazy trying to figure out why my son's complexion is grey. He looks so sick. He has dark red circles around his eyes as well. Besides his " death " looking complexion he is doing great. This complexion thing seems to start in late October and run right through the winter months. Spring is around the corner and I am hoping that some sun will help. Does anyone have any ideas? I know his Vit D is with in the low end of the reference range and it is being addressed. He does not seem to have obvious symptoms of seasonal allergies but we have started Singulair and it seems to be helping a bit. I know that he has really bad gut dysbiosis and I have been working on healing his gut for years. I wish I knew what was going on. He really does look sick. We just got back his blood ammonia and it is elevated. We started using charcoal once a day to help with that. Our DAN gave us a script for lactulose to bring down his ammonia. Has anyone tried this with success and no side effects? Could the ammonia be causing the grey skin color? I would love any suggestions or advice. TIA, Dayna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 > > I have been going crazy trying to figure out why my son's complexion is grey. He looks so sick. He has dark red circles around his eyes as well. For dark circles that are purple-red in color, that was caused by phenol and other food issues here. If it was bright red under one eye, that was caused by giving certain supplements without carnitine. >>he has really bad gut dysbiosis and I have been working on healing his gut for years. Enzymes and biotin [or probiotics] were very helpful for this issue here. >>Could the ammonia be causing the grey skin color? I would love any suggestions or advice. Ammonia can be caused by improper protein digestion and bad bacteria overgrowth. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Elevated ammonia can also be from the liver being overtaxed. Butyrate is supposed to be really good at bringing down ammonia. Ghee and butter are the only two food sources, if your child can have either. I call ghee/butter " cooperation food " because ammonia can lead to obstinate and generally not being very cooperative. Both bytyrate and biotin are produced by good bacteria in the gut so maybe really working on getting the gut dysbiosis back in balance. Also, maybe making sire that you've gotten all the food issues under control. My son gets the purple-red circles from amines. -Sierra http://grainfreefoodie.blogspot.com/ > > > > I have been going crazy trying to figure out why my son's complexion is grey. He looks so sick. He has dark red circles around his eyes as well. > > > For dark circles that are purple-red in color, that was caused by phenol and other food issues here. If it was bright red under one eye, that was caused by giving certain supplements without carnitine. > > > >>he has really bad gut dysbiosis and I have been working on healing his gut for years. > > > Enzymes and biotin [or probiotics] were very helpful for this issue here. > > > >>Could the ammonia be causing the grey skin color? I would love any suggestions or advice. > > > Ammonia can be caused by improper protein digestion and bad bacteria overgrowth. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 My daughter's complexion was grey back in the days before I knew anything about biomedical interventions. Once we got yeast problems under control, her complexion started to look much better. > > I have been going crazy trying to figure out why my son's complexion is grey. He looks so sick. He has dark red circles around his eyes as well. Besides his " death " looking complexion he is doing great. This complexion thing seems to start in late October and run right through the winter months. Spring is around the corner and I am hoping that some sun will help. Does anyone have any ideas? I know his Vit D is with in the low end of the reference range and it is being addressed. He does not seem to have obvious symptoms of seasonal allergies but we have started Singulair and it seems to be helping a bit. I know that he has really bad gut dysbiosis and I have been working on healing his gut for years. I wish I knew what was going on. He really does look sick. We just got back his blood ammonia and it is elevated. We started using charcoal once a day to help with that. Our DAN gave us a script for lactulose to bring down his ammonia. Has anyone tried this with success and no side effects? Could the ammonia be causing the grey skin color? I would love any suggestions or advice. > > TIA, > Dayna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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