Guest guest Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 What about grinding teeth in relation to stress? From: danasview <danasview@...> Subject: Re: Clostridia Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 10:01 AM Â > My seven year old son has major issues with Clostridia with symptoms including motor/vocal tics, dark circles, and inappropriate behavior at school (spitting, calling kids stupid, etc). I know that all of these symptoms sound like yeast but I really think his yeast is under control. The reason I think this is because when he is put of Flagyl all the symptoms go away and stay away. OLE and Culturelle worked to eliminate bad bacteria problems here. Spitting at my house meant carnitine deficiency. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 I get dairy free sacc boul at The Vitamin Shoppe...it's a chain store so you might have one near you. Kirkman makes a dairy free sacc boul too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 My guy as a toddler was grinding his teeth and a very light sleeper. Enzymes, wow, no more issues. I'm sure it was just the tip of the iceberg but a start. He's on the mild side of the spectrum. I vote for something bothering him. Even try a parasite protocol or hit the dentist and get things checked out. I my early 20's, I needed teeth work. Didn't really know it because my parents didn't take me to the dentist. I was grinding my teeth big time in my sleep. When I got my first full time job and hit the dentist, getting my teeth repaired, he could tell I was a teeth grinder. Anyway....after the fillings (thankfully all white), no more teeth grinding. My dad did too, he had all his teeth removed, dentures. The dentist said it was my bodies was of trying to " fix " issues and I did it in my sleep. Tammy Re: Clostridia Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 10:01 AM > My seven year old son has major issues with Clostridia with symptoms including motor/vocal tics, dark circles, and inappropriate behavior at school (spitting, calling kids stupid, etc). I know that all of these symptoms sound like yeast but I really think his yeast is under control. The reason I think this is because when he is put of Flagyl all the symptoms go away and stay away. OLE and Culturelle worked to eliminate bad bacteria problems here. Spitting at my house meant carnitine deficiency. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 My son with bacteria started Kirkman's Colostrum two weeks ago and we are seeing die offs from it. It's supposed to help with yeast, bacteria and reduce inflammation. I also keep him on Biocidin for bacteria control. It's a nice herbal alternative to the antibiotics. Joanne www.healingautismandadhd.wordpress.com > > > > My seven year old son has major issues with Clostridia with symptoms including motor/vocal tics, dark circles, and inappropriate behavior at school (spitting, calling kids stupid, etc). I know that all of these symptoms sound like yeast but I really think his yeast is under control. The reason I think this is because when he is put of Flagyl all the symptoms go away and stay away. Unfortunately, three to four weeks after his round of Flagyl is finished all of these symptoms come back. I need any and all suggestions to help with Clostridia overgrowth. I'm am going crazy!!! Also, his strep titers were checked and this is not a strep issue. > > > > Dayna > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Just wanted to share a couple thing I have learned about clostridia. I have read that clostrdia and Bifidobacterium strain(Probiotics) compete for the same food lactose. Currently I was just using cultrelle(L. GG) to treat the clostridia but I have since added a some bifidombacterium strains and I do notice a bit of a difference in my son when I use both versus just using one(l.gg). Because clostridia feed on lactose, I was planning on adding a Lactose enzyme which in theory should destroy the food source and help clear out some of the problem. Another thing I had read was that clostridia can maintain viable counts in the presence of Phytic acid. My son is a peanutbutter- aholic which could mean high numbers of phytic acid which I have read inhibits the absorption of zinc. My adhd'r needs all the zinc he can get. So, I was thinking of adding the enzyme phytase to break down the phtic acid and make the zinc more readily available and hopefully discourage the clostridia. In the book " Bacteria for breakfast " , the author states that L.Plantrum is better for fighting clostridia then L.GG and that L.salivarius is better then l. plantrum. I have tried L.Plantrum with good results but he is getting sick of those chewables(Jarrow yum yum dophilus) ...I will try the L. Salivarius at some point. I have read not sure if it was in the book or not , that L.Salivarius grows 20 fold....very good at reproducing. PWC ________________________________ From: Dayna <Dgrundland@...> Sent: Thu, April 15, 2010 5:10:50 PM Subject: Clostridia  My seven year old son has major issues with Clostridia with symptoms including motor/vocal tics, dark circles, and inappropriate behavior at school (spitting, calling kids stupid, etc). I know that all of these symptoms sound like yeast but I really think his yeast is under control. The reason I think this is because when he is put of Flagyl all the symptoms go away and stay away. Unfortunately, three to four weeks after his round of Flagyl is finished all of these symptoms come back. I need any and all suggestions to help with Clostridia overgrowth. I'm am going crazy!!! Also, his strep titers were checked and this is not a strep issue. Dayna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 > What about grinding teeth in relation to stress? At my house, teeth grinding was caused by yeast overgrowth and mineral deficiency [magnesium and calcium]. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 dana....how much(mg dose) OLE how often(times a day) and how long(days) to clear also how much(caps dose) Cultrelle how often(times a day) and how long(days) to clear Also...any side effects? Thanks PWC ________________________________ From: danasview <danasview@...> Sent: Fri, April 16, 2010 10:01:21 AM Subject: Re: Clostridia  > My seven year old son has major issues with Clostridia with symptoms including motor/vocal tics, dark circles, and inappropriate behavior at school (spitting, calling kids stupid, etc). I know that all of these symptoms sound like yeast but I really think his yeast is under control. The reason I think this is because when he is put of Flagyl all the symptoms go away and stay away. OLE and Culturelle worked to eliminate bad bacteria problems here. Spitting at my house meant carnitine deficiency. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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