Guest guest Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Dear Gloria, You may need to take more Betaine HCl with pepsin in order to help your digestion. Some people need to take up to 10 per meal in order to increase the acid in their stomach enough. But do follow the article on this in the " Digestion " folder that explains increasing the amount you take each meal until you get a burning feeling - the burning feeling will not cause ulcers and you can take some baking soda in water to alleviate it very quickly. Then you will know with your next meal you should take maybe one tablet less. Please know that increasing stomach acid does not cause ulcers. Ulcers al caused by a decrease in the stomach's natural protective lining and a decrease in mucus production. The candida diet contributes to a healthy lining in the stomach and intestines, esp. meats and " good " fats. It also takes time for the body to respond to changes, i.e. adding HCl this Monday. Also, the entire diet plus HCl, supplements, etc. all contribute to a healthy digestive tract. Have patience my friend. There are no quick fixes when you employ the body's healing processes. Your body will go through cycles as well - your digestion may be fine for a few days and then get worse again. But the lenght of time you feel better will get longer and longer as you continue on the candida program. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Maybe you need an Iodine supplement. There's an experiment running on another group; Iodine supplement for acid reflux patients. > > Hello, > I really can't tell if I need HCl or not. When I've taken it I get > heartburn, even though I did it by slowy increasing. I got to the > point where I thought it was ok (3 caps) but then after 2 or 3 days I > was no longer ok with it. Maybe I'm not low on HCL? > > I tried the baking soda test. It's the one where you drink 1/4 tsp > baking soda in a glass of water when you first wake up. If you > haven't belched in 5 minutes then you have low stomach acid, but if > you do before 2 minutes then you have too much. Well, I always belch > rather quickly, so according to this I would have too much, meaning I > wouldn't need to take HCl. > > > Elyse > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 //> Hello. I checked the label information for the NOW Betaine HCL and I think it looks 'legal' to me (no sugars, starch, yeast, etc., and it has minimal ingredients). I found that after about a week of HCL supplementation, I began getting terrible acid reflux, even on only one 1/2 of a tablet, so this made it very easy to conclude that I am producing adequate amounts of acid in my stomach all by myself. I would continue using the HCL tablets; But if you start getting hyperacidity in your stomach and your esophagus/throat stats to burn shortly after meals, you probably should reduce your dosage or stop the HCL all together. I hope this helps! > > HI Bee/ all, > I took the Betaine HCl for the first time with my meal last night. My stomach was > rumbling most of the night, for at least 6 hours after the meal. Is this normal? > > The brand is NOW with 648mg of Hcl (from beets) and 150mg of Pepsin. Is this > supplement OK. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 > > HI Bee/ all, > I took the Betaine HCl for the first time with my meal last night. My stomach was rumbling most of the night, for at least 6 hours after the meal. Is this normal? ==>I wouldn't be concerned about the rumbling. Your stomach probably isn't used to having enough acid. Also ensure you take " enough " HCl - there's an article on how to regulate it in the C) Digestion Folder in our Files. > > The brand is NOW with 648mg of Hcl (from beets) and 150mg of Pepsin. Is this supplement OK. ==>Yes that is a good one. > > I cheated on the diet about 3 weeks ago on something made from corn flour and also sour cream and cheese and I've really noticed a flare up of symptoms since then. I also had a bad cold do you think the cold could have knocked my immune system around hence the flare up in symptoms? Surely it couldn't have been that one cheat!? ==>Your cold was die-off symptoms because the body increases mucus in order to get rid of toxins - for more information see our Group's Files (left menu) for the " Mucus, Chronic & Excessive " in the C) Treatments Folder. I don't believe one cheat would have caused it. > > I'm feeling very very fatigued and its hard to get the normal day to day stuff done. I've been taking clove tea, have also done a few niacin flushes and a vit c flush and that has helped a little, but usually only lasts a day or two then its fatigue again. ==>It is tough to carry on when you get so fatigued. Fatigue is a die- off symptom and your body heals better when it has more sleep, so rest when you can - see the article " Fatigue and Candida " in the " C) Treatments Folder for more information. That's great that the niacin and vitamin C flushes have helped you. ==>When you get fatigued take some coconut oil or butter by the spoonful. They provide the best and quickest source of energy. Also do everything you can to help your body detoxify, including dry skin brushing daily, Epsom salt baths, etc. - for more information see the article " How to Detoxify Effectively " in the Candida Symptoms, Help For Folder. I hope that helps you. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 > I found that after about a week of HCL supplementation, I began > getting terrible acid reflux, even on only one 1/2 of a tablet, so > this made it very easy to conclude that I am producing adequate > amounts of acid in my stomach all by myself. > > I would continue using the HCL tablets; But if you start getting > hyperacidity in your stomach and your esophagus/throat stats to burn > shortly after meals, you probably should reduce your dosage or stop > the HCL all together. > > I hope this helps! > Thanks , I've all sorts of weird digestive and die off problems lately so I think I will stop until some of it passes so I can judge what I'm reacting to. I'm probably trying to do too much at once! Cheers, Cara ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Get the World's number 1 free email service. http://mail..au Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 > ==>I wouldn't be concerned about the rumbling. Your stomach probably > isn't used to having enough acid. Also ensure you take " enough " HCl - > there's an article on how to regulate it in the C) Digestion Folder > in our Files. Thanks Bee, I've conlcluded that the rumbling could have come from other things so I will hold off on the CHL for a week or two and see how I go then. > ==>Your cold was die-off symptoms because the body increases mucus in > order to get rid of toxins - for more information see our Group's > Files (left menu) for the " Mucus, Chronic & Excessive " in the C) > Treatments Folder. I don't believe one cheat would have caused it. Thanks I hope so. It's strange though, I was up to 6 TBLs of CO and 2 TBLs of butter per day and I've really had to cut back as i'm reacting like crazy to the egg drink at the moment. In fact I've stopped taking it before work as I can't handle the pain during the day. Thats why I thought my set back must have been so huge. Anyhow I'll try it again on the weekend with small amounts of everything. > ==>It is tough to carry on when you get so fatigued. Fatigue is a die- > off symptom and your body heals better when it has more sleep, so > rest when you can - see the article " Fatigue and Candida " in the " C) > Treatments Folder for more information. That's great that the niacin > and vitamin C flushes have helped you. It sure can be tough but I'm trying to stay positive, I know all this pain and suffering will make victory so much sweeter and it's a constant reminder to not cheat lol. I will check out the fatigue stuff, thanks. Thanks again Bee, Cheers, Cara ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Get the World's number 1 free email service. http://mail..au Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Cara, The cinnamon and eggs (contain sulphur) also are antifungal, in addition to butter and coconut oil. Start with small amounts and only gradually increase them in order to minimize die-off reactions. Also ensure you are taking Betaine hydrochloric acid tablets with the egg drink. Bee > Thanks I hope so. It's strange though, I was up to 6 TBLs of CO and 2 TBLs of > butter per day and I've really had to cut back as i'm reacting like crazy to the > egg drink at the moment. In fact I've stopped taking it before work as I can't > handle the pain during the day. Thats why I thought my set back must have been so > huge. Anyhow I'll try it again on the weekend with small amounts of everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 > > Hi Bee, > My name is Kathleen and I have been skulking around this group for a > couple of months now. I have been on SCD/GAPS (without fruit, dairy, > nuts or honey)for 3 1/2 months, and have implemented your program fully > for a month now. I have searched the files for an answer to the > following question, but I couldn't find it. I am having trouble > finding " my dose " of the HCL. I can take up to 10 at a meal without > any burning or heaviness (I don't really know what " heaviness " would > feel like). I've tried all sorts of combinations...some before, some > in the middle of the meal, and some 40 minutes after. I just never > seem to notice a difference in my digestion or get any indication that > I have taken too much. What could this mean? Is there a dosage that > is average that I should just stick with? +++Hi Kathleen. Some people need 10 per meal, so that's okay, but I wouldn't take any more. And eventually you will need to lower the amounts as your digestion improves, in which case you will get burning. > Thanks so much for your time and the good work that you do. +++You are so welcome Kathleen. Peace to you too, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 > > Hello everyone, > I have attempted to order Natural Factors Betaine HCL from three different sites including iherb. All three have the HCL out of stock. I am desperate for this item and have been trying to get it for nearly two weeks now. I thought it was being mailed to me but unfortunately the sites I ordered from didn't tell me it was out of stock until long after I placed my order. My digestion needs it. Does anyone know of a place on-line that has it in stock? I have some digestive aids I had taken in the past from Garden of Life called omega-zyme. Would these be helpful or harmful? I guess I will make some rejuvelac in the meantime; but that takes 3 days before it will be ready!! +++Hi Darlene B. Try your local health store. You do not have to buy Natural Factors brand since there are other good HCl products available. Your body cannot use omega-zyme to improve digestion, because of how your body digests foods, so it is a waste to take it. That is why I only recommend HCl - see this Stomach Acid article which explains why: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/dig14.php If HCl also contains pepsin it is okay to take. The best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 -- In , " al wagner " <alw@...> wrote: > > Isn't it strange that you never see this product on store shelves in the > vitamin/health section? One of the things most Americans NEED! +++Hi Shari. I found that some health stores put HCl in a different section than other vitamin & mineral supplements. All the best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 > > Hi Bee, > > So I've been adding Betaine HCL after each meal. Today I took 6 after a meal. I had some extremely mild stomach pains. I don't know if they were caused by the hcl. > > My question is will I be able to tell without a doubt that I took too much HCL? Should I try to take 7 after my next meal? Also, why do we take it after and not with? Why do I need so many? +++Hi . The burning is heartburn, so you will know it for sure. Remember that the more protein you eat the more HCl you need since HCl digests protein. If you don't eat much protein you'll need less HCl. Of course some carbs contain a little protein too. You should take the same amount with the next meal. If you get mild stomach pains, take 1 less the next meal. But learn more about stomach so you can regulate it with more confidence: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/dig14.php Also, you can get stomach pains when you are stressed, so do these deep breathing exercises before meals, and definitely when your stomach gets pains after a meal: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/breath4.php All the best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I didn't experience any heartburn, just mild stomach discomfort. I will stick with 6 after my next meal and see how I feel. The reason I thought I should increase is because I didn't have heartburn. How many HCL do people need to usually start with? I'm ALL about breathwork. I do breathwork each morning, along with meditation and prayer and yoga stretches and then I do more at night before I fall asleep. In fact, I'm going to post some different breathing exercises I do that help. Thanks, > > > > Hi Bee, > > > > So I've been adding Betaine HCL after each meal. Today I took 6 after a meal. I had some extremely mild stomach pains. I don't know if they were caused by the hcl. > > > > My question is will I be able to tell without a doubt that I took too much HCL? Should I try to take 7 after my next meal? Also, why do we take it after and not with? Why do I need so many? > > +++Hi . The burning is heartburn, so you will know it for sure. > > Remember that the more protein you eat the more HCl you need since HCl digests protein. If you don't eat much protein you'll need less HCl. Of course some carbs contain a little protein too. > > You should take the same amount with the next meal. If you get mild stomach pains, take 1 less the next meal. But learn more about stomach so you can regulate it with more confidence: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/dig14.php > > Also, you can get stomach pains when you are stressed, so do these deep breathing exercises before meals, and definitely when your stomach gets pains after a meal: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/breath4.php > > All the best, Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Hi Bee, I found some sauerkraut. The brand is Deep Root Organic- raw cultured sauerkraut, dairy and vinegar free. Ingredients are green cabbage, spring water, sea salt, juniper berries, caraway seeds and lactic starter. I haven't eaten yet because I wanted to make sure it's okay! Thank You, > > > > I'm going to Whole Foods today so I will look for that sauerkraut. Do I eat it cold or can I warm it up? I don't really like sauerkraut, but I guess I'll get in touch with my German roots! haha! > > > > So taking 9 caps of Betaine HCL with 650 mg in each pill is okay? The one you recommend on IHerb is sold out, so I found it on another site but it has 650 mg in each pill. > > > +++Yes, that HCl is okay at 9 caps. > > > Why sauerkraut? > > +++Read about the benefits of sauerkraut under the Improve Digestion section in my candida article: > http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php#s27 > > Are you sure you read that article ? > > The best to you, Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Hi , It's better to get it without the juniper berries and caraway seeds. I'm sure about the lactic acid. I don't know why they would need starter since cabbage ferments pretty nicely on its own. Perhaps Bee can shed more light on this. All the best, (Group Moderator) > > > Hi Bee, > > I found some sauerkraut. The brand is Deep Root Organic- raw cultured sauerkraut, dairy and vinegar free. Ingredients are green cabbage, spring water, sea salt, juniper berries, caraway seeds and lactic starter. I haven't eaten yet because I wanted to make sure it's okay! > > Thank You, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 > > > Hi Bee, > > I found some sauerkraut. The brand is Deep Root Organic- raw cultured sauerkraut, dairy and vinegar free. Ingredients are green cabbage, spring water, sea salt, juniper berries, caraway seeds and lactic starter. I haven't eaten yet because I wanted to make sure it's okay! +++Hi . First question: IS it labelled unpasteurized? Second, lactic starter is not needed to make sauerkraut so I'm suspicious of that. Also, like advised, you only want cabbage in it, and not juniper berries or caraway seeds. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 hello, a quick question. generally how many milligrams are needed for adults. and is it needed for every meal, is it used up every meal. thanks in advance, s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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