Re: Reactions to natural food chemicals - Confused

[Guest guest]

> Sulfur foods - For awhile her poop was slap you in the face pungent with

> amonia/vinegar type smell and I figured out it was the broccoli,

> cauliflower, brussel sprouts and now asparagus that were the causes. Someone

> mentioned sulfer and all of those plus many other foods are naturally high

> in *sulfur*. These also seem to coincide with very mush poop.

My son did not tolerate these, because of the carotene content. I had to

correct his carotene conversion problem before these were tolerated.

> *Salicylates* - Those foods high in salicylates seem to cause the majority

> of behavior problems for dd. Huge energy, can't stop moving, defiance etc...

My info

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

> Then there are Oxalates, amines, phenols etc.... They all cross each other

> out and I have no idea what to eat!

I used No-Fenol enzyme for most phenol foods. Enzymes did not work for carotene

foods tho.

>>It just feels like she

> is allergic to everything.

My son tolerated no foods. HNI enzymes allowed him to eat most foods without

problems.

Dana

[Guest guest]

My son did not tolerate these, because of the carotene content. I had to

> correct his carotene conversion problem before these were tolerated.

>

>

Okay, what is carotene? That is a new one to me.

> > *Salicylates* - Those foods high in salicylates seem to cause the

> majority

>

> > of behavior problems for dd. Huge energy, can't stop moving, defiance

> etc...

>

> My info

>

> http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

>

Thanks, I have read over your website many times

>

>

> > Then there are Oxalates, amines, phenols etc.... They all cross each

> other

> > out and I have no idea what to eat!

>

> I used No-Fenol enzyme for most phenol foods. Enzymes did not work for

> carotene foods tho.

>

I have been using No-Fenol and Trienza and they seem to be working well. My

bms no longer have undigested food and I sprinkle some on the solids dd does

get and she no longer has undigested foods which is great.

>

>

> >>It just feels like she

> > is allergic to everything.

>

> My son tolerated no foods. HNI enzymes allowed him to eat most foods

> without problems.

>

What other enzymes did you use from HNI besides the No-Fenol?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

how would you know if your child has an issue with carotene conversion?

thank you!

kim

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From: Ketchem <mjpketchem@...>

Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 2:32:49 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Reactions to natural food chemicals - Confused

My son did not tolerate these, because of the carotene content. I had to

> correct his carotene conversion problem before these were tolerated.

>

>

Okay, what is carotene? That is a new one to me.

> > *Salicylates* - Those foods high in salicylates seem to cause the

> majority

>

> > of behavior problems for dd. Huge energy, can't stop moving, defiance

> etc...

>

> My info

>

> http://www.danasvie w.net/phenol. htm

>

Thanks, I have read over your website many times

>

>

> > Then there are Oxalates, amines, phenols etc.... They all cross each

> other

> > out and I have no idea what to eat!

>

> I used No-Fenol enzyme for most phenol foods. Enzymes did not work for

> carotene foods tho.

>

I have been using No-Fenol and Trienza and they seem to be working well. My

bms no longer have undigested food and I sprinkle some on the solids dd does

get and she no longer has undigested foods which is great.

>

>

> >>It just feels like she

> > is allergic to everything.

>

> My son tolerated no foods. HNI enzymes allowed him to eat most foods

> without problems.

>

What other enzymes did you use from HNI besides the No-Fenol?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Hi

I agree it is quite a minefield.

The Royal Prince Alfred Hospital in Sydney, Australia generally recommend foods

low in Salicylates, Glutamate and Amines as well as avoiding artificial

additives and colourings, which many of these are banned in Europe. Some fruits

can be higher or lower in some chemicals depending on how ripe they are.

http://www.cs.nsw.gov.au/rpa/allergy/resources/foodintol/ffintro.cfm

The Feingold diet might be helpful as may the below links.

http://www.fedupwithfoodadditives.info/factsheets/Factintroduction.htm

http://www.fedupwithfoodadditives.info/

Cheers

Kenny

>

> Hi, My name is and I could really use some feed back. I am going to

> be posting this to other groups as well so some of you might see it twice.

> My dd is 19 months old and below I have written about our problems. I could

> really use some help and guidance as I don't know where to go from here.

> Please ask questions as necessary as I really need to figure this out. We

> have started introducing Brainchild vitamins and minerals as well as using

> Trienza and No Phenol enzymes along with Kirkman Pro Bio probiotics inulin

> free. I can get her to take the enzymes and probiotics but the vits and

> minerals are proving impossible. She is mostly breastfed at this point and

> eats a few solids 1 -2 times a day. We tried GAPS and we did okay in some

> areas but it turned other areas worse.

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

> Dd seems to react to multiple types of natural food chemicals but I am so

> overwhelmed by the different types and could use some insight.

>

> Beef Bone Broth - I thought it was the vinegar I was using when making it

> that caused her to break out in a dry bumpy rash on her entire trunk and

> arms but then I made plain broth with water and bones (grass fed) and it

> still happened. This is the same reaction she got from chicken broth, eggs

> and chicken. It is finally clearing up after two weeks. Someone mentioned

> that it could be the *glutamates* in the broth that are the problem?

>

> Sulfur foods - For awhile her poop was slap you in the face pungent with

> amonia/vinegar type smell and I figured out it was the broccoli,

> cauliflower, brussel sprouts and now asparagus that were the causes. Someone

> mentioned sulfer and all of those plus many other foods are naturally high

> in *sulfur*. These also seem to coincide with very mush poop.

>

>

> *Salicylates* - Those foods high in salicylates seem to cause the majority

> of behavior problems for dd. Huge energy, can't stop moving, defiance etc...

> I have also read that *histamine* foods tend to go with salicylate

> intolerance so add in that list of foods. If I try and go low sals those

> foods low in sals are ones she reacts to in a different way such as the

> sulfur foods. Coconut oil for example is supposed to be really healthy but

> it sends her thru the roof with energy and is really high in sals.

>

> Then there are Oxalates, amines, phenols etc.... They all cross each other

> out and I have no idea what to eat! I can either get her to where she has no

> rash, no rrod (red ring around anus) but still wakes every two hours or so

> and has crazy energy. Poop everyday but it smells or is really mushy or poop

> every 3-4 days and be of a more normal consistency. It just feels like she

> is allergic to everything. I sometimes wish I could just start this whole

> thing over again and do better at removing one thing at a time instead of

> groups of things which is what I should have done. UGH I had reached what I

> though was baseline enough but I know it really wasn't and that is hard.

>

> I also know that I am probably mal-nourished due to all of this and am going

> to the Dr. to get checked on my vitamin and mineral levals and whatever else

> I should have checked to see if it is something I am contributing to. I have

> read a little on detox pathways and such but that is something else I am

> really overwhelmed with. I need to balance my own body to help her imo.

>

>

> My picture of baseline for dd at 19mo is normal smell and shape poops

> everyday, no rashes, no rrod, regular energy levals and the ability to sleep

> at least 4 - 5 hours in a row at night. That would be awesome. I have yet to

> get there and am really tired. She is still nursing all the time and while

> she does eat a little more solids it is still not much. I have no problem

> nursing her like this but it is why I think I need to try and fix myself in

> order to help fix her, kwim?

>

> Then there are groups that would say the dry rashes and eczema could be

> healing reactions and the bodies way to get rid of the bad stuff and

> replacing it with the good. I am not sure what to think of that. I know bone

> broth is supposed to be really good for you but is the rash an allergic

> reaction or is it a healing reaction? I don't want her to react at all!!!

>

> Now what? What do I do about her being sensitive to practically everything?

> What do I ask my Dr. to test for? I have no energy, foggy brain, no sex

> drive at all and am just really feeling depleted. Do I just focus on myself

> and do what I can for her but because she reacts to everything what do I eat

> to help nourish myself? I have 10 accupuncture treatments that I get from

> when I managed her office so I will be starting those hopefully once a week

> and that will help as long as I can get there.

>

> Dd is currently recovering from stitches and she received local pain shots

> so I have no idea what was in them so I feel like this is a good time to try

> and start a new game plan but like I said I have no idea what that should

> be.

>

> Help please I am just feeling really overwhelmed and want someone else to

> make the decision for me! I know you can't but a little help would be

> great.

>

> (San Diego)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> My son did not tolerate these, because of the carotene content. I had to

> > correct his carotene conversion problem before these were tolerated.

> >

> Okay, what is carotene? That is a new one to me.

Carotene is a substance found in orange and green foods, and in some reds and

yellows. For example, carrots are high carotene. A healthy body converts

carotenes into vitamin A. But my son's body could not do the conversion, so

carotenes basically poisoned his brain until I corrected his body's ability to

convert them.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> how would you know if your child has an issue with carotene conversion?

In some people, eating carotenes will cause yellow hands and feet.

For my son, it caused him to be really spacy and " not present " .

Dana

[Guest guest]

> i have yellow hands and feet and so do my kids. does this necessarily mean

that there is a problem?

I don't think it would *necessarily* indicate a problem, but it would definitely

be something to consider.

Dana