Re: Candidase enzymes quit working??

[Guest guest]

I would say; reduce the Grapefruit Seed extract to 10 drops 3 x day; A

and give one Cutrelle in the am and one in pm if possible; imo anna 57

In , " " <jenn-

miller@...> wrote:

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> We started on a yeast protocol about 4 weeks ago (3 candidase + 30

> drops GSE 3 x/day + 2 Culturelle at bedtime). During the first

week

> and a half it worked amazingly well. Then, we all had a flare at

the

> same time that we haven't been able to knock down. Could it be

that

> the enzymes are damaged or do we need to try something else? I'm a

bit

> dismayed at the notion that I may have spent $700 on defective

enzymes,

> but encouraged that I may be able to treat with a cheaper remedy.

> Anyone know how well oil of oregano works? Also, how can I be sure

> that the enzymes I get are viable? I can't find a distributor that

> cold ships, and buying directly from Enzymedica is really cost-

> prohibitive for me. Although, I suppose that spending all that time

and

> money taking supplements that don't work is a real waste as well.

> Anyone have any suggestions?

>

[Guest guest]

Once there is no yeast, the grapefriut seed extract can cause bacteria problems.

Try eliminating it all together and see what happens.

 

I just had this happen with my son....I was giving him GSE and I thought he was

having the worst yeast I'd ever seen. HUGE bloated belly, terrible breath and

gas. Turns out he no longer needed GSE and  had dysbiosis from it..

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> We started on a yeast protocol about 4 weeks ago (3 candidase + 30

> drops GSE 3 x/day + 2 Culturelle at bedtime). During the first

week

> and a half it worked amazingly well. Then, we all had a flare at

the

> same time that we haven't been able to knock down. Could it be

that

> the enzymes are damaged or do we need to try something else? I'm a

bit

> dismayed at the notion that I may have spent $700 on defective

enzymes,

> but encouraged that I may be able to treat with a cheaper remedy.

> Anyone know how well oil of oregano works? Also, how can I be sure

> that the enzymes I get are viable? I can't find a distributor that

> cold ships, and buying directly from Enzymedica is really cost-

> prohibitive for me. Although, I suppose that spending all that time

and

> money taking supplements that don't work is a real waste as well.

> Anyone have any suggestions?

>

[Guest guest]

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> We started on a yeast protocol about 4 weeks ago (3 candidase + 30

> drops GSE 3 x/day + 2 Culturelle at bedtime). During the first week

> and a half it worked amazingly well. Then, we all had a flare at the

> same time that we haven't been able to knock down.

What were the symptoms of your flare?

That is a rather high dose of GSE, and once the yeast is gone [usually

a week or so], GSE will tend to cause a bad bacteria problem, which

sometimes has similar symptoms.

>>Could it be that

> the enzymes are damaged or do we need to try something else?

Why do you suspect the Candidase? What other supplements are you

currently giving?

> Anyone know how well oil of oregano works?

It works well on both yeast and bad bacteria, so you can switch from

GSE to OoO if you want, see if that works better for you.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I found your reply interesting; " too much grapefruist seed extract

can cuase " fermentation in the tummy; too much of anything is not good

I recall when I was 10 yrs. old in 1961; I had chronic nose bleeds;

so off to Doc. my Mum took me; turns out I was thin and I had a

Deficiency of Vitman C Ascorbic Acid called Scurvy; so the Doc put me

on Vitamin C Ascorbic Acid script; IN 10 DAYS MY NOSEBLEEDS CLEARED

and i never had another nose bleed in 40 years; THEN I began to eat

tons of fruit which Mum bought; i recall the day I ate about 7

tnagerines in one afternoon;I broke out in a face arm rash;off to doc

This time it was too much Vitamin C called Acidosis; amazing stories !

so the point is: A Balance must be maintained when supplementing kids.

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> > We started on a yeast protocol about 4 weeks ago (3 candidase +

30

> > drops GSE 3 x/day + 2 Culturelle at bedtime). During the first

> week

> > and a half it worked amazingly well. Then, we all had a flare at

> the

> > same time that we haven't been able to knock down. Could it be

> that

> > the enzymes are damaged or do we need to try something else? I'm

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> > dismayed at the notion that I may have spent $700 on defective

> enzymes,

> > but encouraged that I may be able to treat with a cheaper remedy.

> > Anyone know how well oil of oregano works? Also, how can I be

sure

> > that the enzymes I get are viable? I can't find a distributor

that

> > cold ships, and buying directly from Enzymedica is really cost-

> > prohibitive for me. Although, I suppose that spending all that

time

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> > money taking supplements that don't work is a real waste as well.

> > Anyone have any suggestions?

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[Guest guest]

The symptoms of our flare included: return of psoriasis patches (The

patches themselves shrunk considerably and looked much less angry since

starting the yeast protocol. Once the flare happened the size of the

patches never increased. Instead, they got red and flaky), vaginal

itching and redness in DD and I, jock itch in DH. I didn't know that

the GSE could cause problems if it isn't needed, but it seems like it

is yeast and not bacteria. Plus, we're also taking 10 protease 3x/day

each along with the candidase, candex and GSE. Should I just quit the

GSE and start OoO? If so, what's a good dose? I've heard 3 drops in a

bit of water 1x/day for adults, so I'd assume 1 drop in water 1x/day

would be good for kids. What about additing it to castor oil and

putting it on the feet at night? Can I do both?

[Guest guest]

>>I didn't know that

> the GSE could cause problems if it isn't needed, but it seems like it

> is yeast and not bacteria.

You can try increasing the GSE, see if that helps.

>>Plus, we're also taking 10 protease 3x/day

> each along with the candidase, candex and GSE. Should I just quit the

> GSE and start OoO?

You can also try this and see if it works better for you.

>>If so, what's a good dose? I've heard 3 drops in a

> bit of water 1x/day for adults, so I'd assume 1 drop in water 1x/day

> would be good for kids.

Start there, increase as required.

>>What about additing it to castor oil and

> putting it on the feet at night? Can I do both?

It may work by putting it on the feet, but I don't have experience

with that.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I have found FermPlus to be wonderful for fighting Candida and growing COLONIES

of bacteria in the body, which will actually fight the Candida even more than

any yeast killer will. http://fermplus.com/aboutfp

Hope this helps,

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[Guest guest]

Oh, FermPlus comes from Australia. You dont have to order it from

Australia, I purchase it from

http://www.significanthealing.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info & products\

_id=6 & zenid=e17b40ad7c68051c16dad2a9b8f6e728

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> I have found FermPlus to be wonderful for fighting Candida and

growing COLONIES of bacteria in the body, which will actually fight

the Candida even more than any yeast killer will.

http://fermplus.com/aboutfp

> Hope this helps,

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[Guest guest]

Is grapefruit seed extract safe to be given while doing DMPS?  What is Cutrelle?

My daughter is 3; is it easy to give?

Re: Candidase enzymes quit working??

I would say; reduce the Grapefruit Seed extract to 10 drops 3 x day; A

and give one Cutrelle in the am and one in pm if possible; imo anna 57

In , " " <jenn-

miller@...> wrote:

>

> We started on a yeast protocol about 4 weeks ago (3 candidase + 30

> drops GSE 3 x/day + 2 Culturelle at bedtime). During the first

week

> and a half it worked amazingly well. Then, we all had a flare at

the

> same time that we haven't been able to knock down. Could it be

that

> the enzymes are damaged or do we need to try something else? I'm a

bit

> dismayed at the notion that I may have spent $700 on defective

enzymes,

> but encouraged that I may be able to treat with a cheaper remedy.

> Anyone know how well oil of oregano works? Also, how can I be sure

> that the enzymes I get are viable? I can't find a distributor that

> cold ships, and buying directly from Enzymedica is really cost-

> prohibitive for me. Although, I suppose that spending all that time

and

> money taking supplements that don't work is a real waste as well.

> Anyone have any suggestions?

>

[Guest guest]

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> Is grapefruit seed extract safe to be given while doing DMPS? What

is Cutrelle? My daughter is 3; is it easy to give?

I chelated with ALA, and I gave GSE with each dose, to control yeast.

Culturelle is a probiotic that works really well for bad bacteria

overgrowth issues.

Dana