Guest guest Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 >>The bottom front teeth look on the verge of losing most of the enamel. Is it decay, or demineralization? >>He gets multivitamins and enzymes along with b12, b complex, CLO, calcium and probably a few other things. What are you doing for yeast protocol? > Has anyone else had issues with teeth and if so does anyone have any suggestions on how we can help stop the tooth damage? For my son, it was demineralization caused by improper absorption of minerals [calcium toxic, because the calcium was not absorbed, etc]. He required chelation and several supplements for proper calcium absorption. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Demineralization is usually a smooth discoloration right at the gumline. Decay is a hole or rough kind of chipped piece of tooth in the tooth surface. Usually darker in color. Demineralization can not b brushed off. U can try brushing with a high concentrated fluoride to help remineralize those spots. Fluoride will help but not help over night. Hope this helps. I am a. Dental hygienist. . Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Re: tooth decay... completely desperate >>The bottom front teeth look on the verge of losing most of the enamel. Is it decay, or demineralization? >>He gets multivitamins and enzymes along with b12, b complex, CLO, calcium and probably a few other things. What are you doing for yeast protocol? > Has anyone else had issues with teeth and if so does anyone have any suggestions on how we can help stop the tooth damage? For my son, it was demineralization caused by improper absorption of minerals [calcium toxic, because the calcium was not absorbed, etc]. He required chelation and several supplements for proper calcium absorption. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 > Demineralization can not b brushed off. U can try brushing with a high concentrated fluoride to help remineralize those spots. Fluoride will help but not help over night. Fluoride is a neurotoxin, I would never recommend using it. You are correct, demineralization cannot be brushed off, but it can be corrected. That is why I asked the question. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 Too bad dentists and dental health professionals are not trained in toxicity and are following many decades to misinformation from public health and the dental associations. An Oregon boy, Cantor, died in the dentist's chair after ingesting 1/2 teaspoon of fluoride. Besides vaccines, fluoride is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated in our society. On Jun 8, 2010, at 7:09 AM, danasview wrote: > >> Demineralization can not b brushed off. U can try brushing with a >> high concentrated fluoride to help remineralize those spots. >> Fluoride will help but not help over night. > > > Fluoride is a neurotoxin, I would never recommend using it. > > You are correct, demineralization cannot be brushed off, but it can > be corrected. That is why I asked the question. > > Dana > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 How can it be corrected? > >> Demineralization can not b brushed off. U can try brushing with a >> high concentrated fluoride to help remineralize those spots. >> Fluoride will help but not help over night. > > > Fluoride is a neurotoxin, I would never recommend using it. > > You are correct, demineralization cannot be brushed off, but it can > be corrected. That is why I asked the question. > > Dana > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 On Jun 8, 2010, at 9:24 AM, drissia wright wrote: > How can it be corrected? > Remineralization of the enamel and the dentine underneath the enamel requires the naturally-occurring enzyme adenosine diphosphatase, as well as calcium, vitamin D and phosphate in the diet or supplementation. Since fluoride destroys most enzymes, it is a blocker to remineralization, so the first step would be to completely eliminate fluoride. I've never used it on my daughter's teeth and I have fluoride filters in my house and her hygienist comments all the time that she has some of the healthiest teeth she's ever seen. Another thing is to stop using commercial toothpastes that contain glycerine. Glycerine coats the teeth with a sticky substance and also prevents proper remineralization. Teeth remineralize well when nutrition is applied to very clean, uncoated teeth, and this nutrition is in your saliva. It is the constant bathing of saliva on your teeth, combined with proper nutrition and supplementation that helps them to remineralize. The key is that the saliva needs to be at or near neutral pH (7). Saliva in the acidic range demineralizes teeth. You want to keep it as close to neutral pH as possible. We also use Himalayan Crystal salt with ionic and colloidal to minerals help alkalize the body and replenish lost trace minerals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 Sorry but in the twenty years of doing dentistry all demineralized spots will not one hundred percent away with fluoride. I still have some demineralizzed spots. I have seen what too much fluoride does to teeth. And I have also seen what no fluoride can do as well. I agree it is a personal preference. I choose fl for my son because he does not sit well in the dental chair. Or tolerate things in his mouth well. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Re: Re: tooth decay... completely desperate Too bad dentists and dental health professionals are not trained in toxicity and are following many decades to misinformation from public health and the dental associations. An Oregon boy, Cantor, died in the dentist's chair after ingesting 1/2 teaspoon of fluoride. Besides vaccines, fluoride is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated in our society. On Jun 8, 2010, at 7:09 AM, danasview wrote: > >> Demineralization can not b brushed off. U can try brushing with a >> high concentrated fluoride to help remineralize those spots. >> Fluoride will help but not help over night. > > > Fluoride is a neurotoxin, I would never recommend using it. > > You are correct, demineralization cannot be brushed off, but it can > be corrected. That is why I asked the question. > > Dana > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 The enamel issues that you're describing are common in Pyrroluria, which interferes with the enzyme pathway described by someone else by causing severe zinc deficiency. I would check that first and correct if needed (cheap and easy). His vitamin D levels should also be checked. Also, you mentioned that he needs a low oxalate diet, so you know he has calcium absorption issues. My gut seemed to really need vitamin K2 for that. Generally, the health of the mouth reflects the health of the gut. SCD is a great step but doesn't encourage/allow the level of probiotic use or fermented foods that many people need to heal the dysbiosis (this also effects the pH like someone else mentioned). Lastly, human teeth aren't " meant " to need any dental hygiene or care. For most of the time that people have lived on earth we had zero dental hygiene and excellent teeth (per the fossil record), it was just dietary changes, mainly eating grains especially the high carbohydrate ones like corn and wheat, that brought about tooth decay. It shouldn't matter whether our kids brush or sit in the dental chair. Once we see enamel problems, or decay, we know that an underlying biological process has been interrupted or injured and we should address these problems at the core. Even if fluoride does reverse demineralization, it leaves the disease process unchecked and uncorrected. -Sierra > >> Demineralization can not b brushed off. U can try brushing with a > >> high concentrated fluoride to help remineralize those spots. > >> Fluoride will help but not help over night. > > > > > > Fluoride is a neurotoxin, I would never recommend using it. > > > > You are correct, demineralization cannot be brushed off, but it can > > be corrected. That is why I asked the question. > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 FYI: My friends son has no enamel on his baby teeth, the dentist told her that he may have had a virus at the time they were suppose to develop which interferred with it and the dentist said the adult teeth would be fine....not sure if there is any truth, just thought I would share. PWC ________________________________ From: purpledragonmama05 <sierra.ansley@...> Sent: Tue, June 8, 2010 3:12:07 PM Subject: Re: tooth decay... completely desperate  The enamel issues that you're describing are common in Pyrroluria, which interferes with the enzyme pathway described by someone else by causing severe zinc deficiency. I would check that first and correct if needed (cheap and easy). His vitamin D levels should also be checked. Also, you mentioned that he needs a low oxalate diet, so you know he has calcium absorption issues. My gut seemed to really need vitamin K2 for that. Generally, the health of the mouth reflects the health of the gut. SCD is a great step but doesn't encourage/allow the level of probiotic use or fermented foods that many people need to heal the dysbiosis (this also effects the pH like someone else mentioned). Lastly, human teeth aren't " meant " to need any dental hygiene or care. For most of the time that people have lived on earth we had zero dental hygiene and excellent teeth (per the fossil record), it was just dietary changes, mainly eating grains especially the high carbohydrate ones like corn and wheat, that brought about tooth decay. It shouldn't matter whether our kids brush or sit in the dental chair. Once we see enamel problems, or decay, we know that an underlying biological process has been interrupted or injured and we should address these problems at the core. Even if fluoride does reverse demineralization, it leaves the disease process unchecked and uncorrected. -Sierra > >> Demineralization can not b brushed off. U can try brushing with a > >> high concentrated fluoride to help remineralize those spots. > >> Fluoride will help but not help over night. > > > > > > Fluoride is a neurotoxin, I would never recommend using it. > > > > You are correct, demineralization cannot be brushed off, but it can > > be corrected. That is why I asked the question. > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 I am not sure if is decay or demineralization. If I think of a tooth like an onion to me it looks like the teeth is dissolving like peeling away an onion layer by layer. Hi teeth seem to be getting smaller and smaller. There is one tooth that looks like all the enamal is almost gone. We have pictures of what his teeth used to look like. FOr yeast we have been on/off diflucan and sporanox. We have also done enhansa and gse. But at the moment we are only doing fermented coconut keifer and probiotics for yeast. He still seems pretty 'yeasty'. Did your son's teeth improve or at least stop demineralizing? What supplements did you give for helping calcium absorption? Thanks, > >>The bottom front teeth look on the verge of losing most of the enamel. > > > Is it decay, or demineralization? > > > >>He gets multivitamins and enzymes along with b12, b complex, CLO, calcium and probably a few other things. > > > What are you doing for yeast protocol? > > > > Has anyone else had issues with teeth and if so does anyone have any suggestions on how we can help stop the tooth damage? > > > For my son, it was demineralization caused by improper absorption of minerals [calcium toxic, because the calcium was not absorbed, etc]. He required chelation and several supplements for proper calcium absorption. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 Thanks. What causes the demineralization? I don't see any cavities yet but the teeth seem to be getting smaller and smaller like they are dissolving away. > >>The bottom front teeth look on the verge of losing most of the enamel. > > > Is it decay, or demineralization? > > > >>He gets multivitamins and enzymes along with b12, b complex, CLO, calcium and probably a few other things. > > > What are you doing for yeast protocol? > > > > Has anyone else had issues with teeth and if so does anyone have any suggestions on how we can help stop the tooth damage? > > > For my son, it was demineralization caused by improper absorption of minerals [calcium toxic, because the calcium was not absorbed, etc]. He required chelation and several supplements for proper calcium absorption. > > Dana > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 How can demineralization be corrected Dana? > > Demineralization can not b brushed off. U can try brushing with a high concentrated fluoride to help remineralize those spots. Fluoride will help but not help over night. > > > Fluoride is a neurotoxin, I would never recommend using it. > > You are correct, demineralization cannot be brushed off, but it can be corrected. That is why I asked the question. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 Hi , That is great about your daughter? We also try to filter out fluoride and do not use toothpaste. What types of supplements have you used. I know nutrition is key, fats, vit A/D/K2, etc can help the teeth but our son seems to have a really hard time absorbing through his gut. Maybe he just needs a lot more of the supplements to help increase absorption. > > > How can it be corrected? > > > > Remineralization of the enamel and the dentine underneath the enamel > requires the naturally-occurring enzyme adenosine diphosphatase, as > well as calcium, vitamin D and phosphate in the diet or > supplementation. Since fluoride destroys most enzymes, it is a > blocker to remineralization, so the first step would be to completely > eliminate fluoride. I've never used it on my daughter's teeth and I > have fluoride filters in my house and her hygienist comments all the > time that she has some of the healthiest teeth she's ever seen. > Another thing is to stop using commercial toothpastes that contain > glycerine. Glycerine coats the teeth with a sticky substance and also > prevents proper remineralization. Teeth remineralize well when > nutrition is applied to very clean, uncoated teeth, and this > nutrition is in your saliva. It is the constant bathing of saliva on > your teeth, combined with proper nutrition and supplementation that > helps them to remineralize. The key is that the saliva needs to be at > or near neutral pH (7). Saliva in the acidic range demineralizes > teeth. You want to keep it as close to neutral pH as possible. We > also use Himalayan Crystal salt with ionic and colloidal to minerals > help alkalize the body and replenish lost trace minerals. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 What did you notice after taking K2 specifically? What brand did you take? We did the Pyrroluria test. Don't remember the lab but it came back saying he did not have this. He does get fairly high dose of Vit B6 and zinc daily but this teeth problem is getting worse. We started adding more Ghee and butter oils to his diet (can't have milk or cheese) and increased CLO, vit A and vit D3 along with calcium and a small amount of sodium bicarbonate. We also started brushing his teeth gently with a small about of sodium bicarbonate. Thanks for the information. > > >> Demineralization can not b brushed off. U can try brushing with a > > >> high concentrated fluoride to help remineralize those spots. > > >> Fluoride will help but not help over night. > > > > > > > > > Fluoride is a neurotoxin, I would never recommend using it. > > > > > > You are correct, demineralization cannot be brushed off, but it can > > > be corrected. That is why I asked the question. > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 You could think of lack of calcium. Calcium is very important to the body (the little boy who died during IV chelation died because the chelator stripped calcium from his blood and stopped his heart). So if it is short it will take calcium from the bones and teeth to keep the levels up. Are you CF? Sally m_jhouston333 wrote: > Thanks. What causes the demineralization? I don't see any cavities yet but the teeth seem to be getting smaller and smaller like they are dissolving away. > > > > > > >> >>>> The bottom front teeth look on the verge of losing most of the enamel. >>>> >> Is it decay, or demineralization? >> >> >> >>>> He gets multivitamins and enzymes along with b12, b complex, CLO, calcium and probably a few other things. >>>> >> What are you doing for yeast protocol? >> >> >> >>> Has anyone else had issues with teeth and if so does anyone have any suggestions on how we can help stop the tooth damage? >>> >> For my son, it was demineralization caused by improper absorption of minerals [calcium toxic, because the calcium was not absorbed, etc]. He required chelation and several supplements for proper calcium absorption. >> >> Dana >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 I believe that the coconut kefir can do something to enamel. I can't remember if I read it on the Body ecology website or in the book. You need to drink water after giving the coconut kefir to rinse out your mouth. I don't think it would do as much as you're stating below. Could your son be grinding his teeth? Re: tooth decay... completely desperate I am not sure if is decay or demineralization. If I think of a tooth like an onion to me it looks like the teeth is dissolving like peeling away an onion layer by layer. Hi teeth seem to be getting smaller and smaller. There is one tooth that looks like all the enamal is almost gone. We have pictures of what his teeth used to look like. FOr yeast we have been on/off diflucan and sporanox. We have also done enhansa and gse. But at the moment we are only doing fermented coconut keifer and probiotics for yeast. He still seems pretty 'yeasty'. Did your son's teeth improve or at least stop demineralizing? What supplements did you give for helping calcium absorption? Thanks, > >>The bottom front teeth look on the verge of losing most of the enamel. > > > Is it decay, or demineralization? > > > >>He gets multivitamins and enzymes along with b12, b complex, CLO, calcium and probably a few other things. > > > What are you doing for yeast protocol? > > > > Has anyone else had issues with teeth and if so does anyone have any suggestions on how we can help stop the tooth damage? > > > For my son, it was demineralization caused by improper absorption of minerals [calcium toxic, because the calcium was not absorbed, etc]. He required chelation and several supplements for proper calcium absorption. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 Demineralization can be from acids or sugars in your mouth . not brushing well can contribute (missing the same tooth and allowing the sticky plaque to sit on that tooth for an extended period of time) Some mediications can dry the mouth out to where your saliva can not wash the teeth off in your mouth. This means that what you eat and drink sticks on your teeth longer. Increasing your likelihood of getting a cavities or demineralization. If this is a problem you need to rinse your mouth out after you eat with atleast water. Don't sip on sugary drinks all day. Drink it and be done with it. The more time you have sugar or acid in your mouth it alters the mouths ph which creates a nice environment for cavities or demineralization. Hope this helps Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Re: tooth decay... completely desperate I am not sure if is decay or demineralization. If I think of a tooth like an onion to me it looks like the teeth is dissolving like peeling away an onion layer by layer. Hi teeth seem to be getting smaller and smaller. There is one tooth that looks like all the enamal is almost gone. We have pictures of what his teeth used to look like. FOr yeast we have been on/off diflucan and sporanox. We have also done enhansa and gse. But at the moment we are only doing fermented coconut keifer and probiotics for yeast. He still seems pretty 'yeasty'. Did your son's teeth improve or at least stop demineralizing? What supplements did you give for helping calcium absorption? Thanks, > >>The bottom front teeth look on the verge of losing most of the enamel. > > > Is it decay, or demineralization? > > > >>He gets multivitamins and enzymes along with b12, b complex, CLO, calcium and probably a few other things. > > > What are you doing for yeast protocol? > > > > Has anyone else had issues with teeth and if so does anyone have any suggestions on how we can help stop the tooth damage? > > > For my son, it was demineralization caused by improper absorption of minerals [calcium toxic, because the calcium was not absorbed, etc]. He required chelation and several supplements for proper calcium absorption. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 I would DEFINITELY agree. I would not stick Fluoride in my child's mouth. It does NOT accomplish remineralizing. I like to have fell out of my chair when I read that. > > Demineralization can not b brushed off. U can try brushing with a high concentrated fluoride to help remineralize those spots. Fluoride will help but not help over night. > > > Fluoride is a neurotoxin, I would never recommend using it. > > You are correct, demineralization cannot be brushed off, but it can be corrected. That is why I asked the question. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 > Did your son's teeth improve or at least stop demineralizing? What supplements did you give for helping calcium absorption? I eliminated my son's demineralization and I re-mineralized his teeth. My son required magnesium, vitamin D, vitamin K, and lysine for proper absorption of calcium. For many children, they have lead in their teeth instead of calcium. If that is true for your child, you may need to chelate the lead first. DMSA works well to eliminate lead, and then you use the supps listed above for proper absorption of calcium. The body only absorbs about 300-350mg calcium at any one time, so give it multiple times during the day, along with the supps above. [Your child may not need all the supps that my son needed.] Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 Yes, we are CF. But we started just the past few days to add a lot of Ghee and butter oil to his foods and added calcium citrate. Hopefully that will help. I know he is having trouble absorbing. So even if we add calcium he may not be absorbing it. > >> > >>>> The bottom front teeth look on the verge of losing most of the enamel. > >>>> > >> Is it decay, or demineralization? > >> > >> > >> > >>>> He gets multivitamins and enzymes along with b12, b complex, CLO, calcium and probably a few other things. > >>>> > >> What are you doing for yeast protocol? > >> > >> > >> > >>> Has anyone else had issues with teeth and if so does anyone have any suggestions on how we can help stop the tooth damage? > >>> > >> For my son, it was demineralization caused by improper absorption of minerals [calcium toxic, because the calcium was not absorbed, etc]. He required chelation and several supplements for proper calcium absorption. > >> > >> Dana > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010  do you think epsom salt chelation might equally be stripping calcium from my daughter? i am not giving her calcium but she gets lots of nut milks. i think ghee is interesting.  ________________________________ From: m_jhouston333 <m_jhouston333@...> Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 7:39:53 PM Subject: Re: tooth decay... completely desperate  Yes, we are CF. But we started just the past few days to add a lot of Ghee and butter oil to his foods and added calcium citrate. Hopefully that will help. I know he is having trouble absorbing. So even if we add calcium he may not be absorbing it. > >> > >>>> The bottom front teeth look on the verge of losing most of the enamel. > >>>> > >> Is it decay, or demineralization? > >> > >> > >> > >>>> He gets multivitamins and enzymes along with b12, b complex, CLO, calcium and probably a few other things. > >>>> > >> What are you doing for yeast protocol? > >> > >> > >> > >>> Has anyone else had issues with teeth and if so does anyone have any suggestions on how we can help stop the tooth damage? > >>> > >> For my son, it was demineralization caused by improper absorption of minerals [calcium toxic, because the calcium was not absorbed, etc]. He required chelation and several supplements for proper calcium absorption. > >> > >> Dana > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010  we had to give my daughter a general anaesthetic and dental surgery for an hour and she was only two years old. she ground her teeth terribly, drank bottles of similac (this was all pre-biomeds and cf/gf) and diluted apple juice. in the end she had 3 fillings and a few crowns and her back teeth look like jaws. the front part of her teeth were also partially black. if your child will not allow a dentist to do a thorough clean, i recommend getting the job done with anaesthesia. and then giving your child all the vits and minerals they need. we are still not giving our daughter calcium but she gets a really healthy balanced diet, her teeth are much much better and no more grinding.   ________________________________ From: m_jhouston333 <m_jhouston333@...> Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 7:32:55 PM Subject: Re: tooth decay... completely desperate  We just started brushing with sodium bicarbonate 2 days ago. I didn't know it could have such a negative affect on teeth. Other places I read that it can help stop tooth decay. Man I am so confused. We will stop using it for now until we know more. Thanks. > >>and a small amount of sodium bicarbonate. We also started brushing his teeth gently with a small about of sodium bicarbonate. > > > I used baking soda to try to whiten my teeth when I was in high school. I succeeded in wearing down almost all the enamel on my two front teeth, requiring them to be filled with composite. If you are noticing the enamel disappearing on your child's teeth, stop using the sodium bicarbonate. > > Dana > m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 I have not heard of epsom salt chelation. We learned about Ghee early on when looking into the cesien free diet. But we stopped giving it to our son when we started the SCD diet (not sure why we stopped ghee). Anyway you might find the book " cure tooth decay " by Ramiel Nagel. We just started reading it but he talks about ghee, high vitamin butter oil and key nutrients (like Vit A, D3, etc) for helping to strengthen teeth. From: Yarkoni <tanya.yarkoni@...> Subject: Re: Re: tooth decay... completely desperate Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 6:54 PM   do you think epsom salt chelation might equally be stripping calcium from my daughter? i am not giving her calcium but she gets lots of nut milks. i think ghee is interesting.  ________________________________ From: m_jhouston333 <m_jhouston333@...> Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 7:39:53 PM Subject: Re: tooth decay... completely desperate  Yes, we are CF. But we started just the past few days to add a lot of Ghee and butter oil to his foods and added calcium citrate. Hopefully that will help. I know he is having trouble absorbing. So even if we add calcium he may not be absorbing it. > >> > >>>> The bottom front teeth look on the verge of losing most of the enamel. > >>>> > >> Is it decay, or demineralization? > >> > >> > >> > >>>> He gets multivitamins and enzymes along with b12, b complex, CLO, calcium and probably a few other things. > >>>> > >> What are you doing for yeast protocol? > >> > >> > >> > >>> Has anyone else had issues with teeth and if so does anyone have any suggestions on how we can help stop the tooth damage? > >>> > >> For my son, it was demineralization caused by improper absorption of minerals [calcium toxic, because the calcium was not absorbed, etc]. He required chelation and several supplements for proper calcium absorption. > >> > >> Dana > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 nut milks do not contain calcium. they are only called milk because they are white. They have nothing else in common with milk. I put epsom salts in the bath. They are magnesium sulphate. I don't think they chelate. Sally Yarkoni wrote: > > do you think epsom salt chelation might equally be stripping calcium from my daughter? > i am not giving her calcium but she gets lots of nut milks. i think ghee is interesting. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: m_jhouston333 <m_jhouston333@...> > > Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 7:39:53 PM > Subject: Re: tooth decay... completely desperate > > > Yes, we are CF. But we started just the past few days to add a lot of Ghee and butter oil to his foods and added calcium citrate. Hopefully that will help. > > I know he is having trouble absorbing. So even if we add calcium he may not be absorbing it. > > >>>> >>>> >>>>>> The bottom front teeth look on the verge of losing most of the enamel. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> Is it decay, or demineralization? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> He gets multivitamins and enzymes along with b12, b complex, CLO, calcium and probably a few other things. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> What are you doing for yeast protocol? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Has anyone else had issues with teeth and if so does anyone have any suggestions on how we can help stop the tooth damage? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> For my son, it was demineralization caused by improper absorption of minerals [calcium toxic, because the calcium was not absorbed, etc]. He required chelation and several supplements for proper calcium absorption. >>>> >>>> Dana >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 thanks sally i do a mix of nuts and seeds. i think some of them do have calcium. here is a very interesting list of calcium sources. http://www.soystache.com/sources_of_calcium.htm  ________________________________ From: Sally Eva <bobsallyeva@...> Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 11:23:53 PM Subject: Re: Re: tooth decay... completely desperate  nut milks do not contain calcium. they are only called milk because they are white. They have nothing else in common with milk. I put epsom salts in the bath. They are magnesium sulphate. I don't think they chelate. Sally Yarkoni wrote: > > do you think epsom salt chelation might equally be stripping calcium from my daughter? > i am not giving her calcium but she gets lots of nut milks. i think ghee is interesting. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: m_jhouston333 <m_jhouston333@...> > > Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 7:39:53 PM > Subject: Re: tooth decay... completely desperate > > > Yes, we are CF. But we started just the past few days to add a lot of Ghee and butter oil to his foods and added calcium citrate. Hopefully that will help. > > I know he is having trouble absorbing. So even if we add calcium he may not be absorbing it. > > >>>> >>>> >>>>>> The bottom front teeth look on the verge of losing most of the enamel. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> Is it decay, or demineralization? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> He gets multivitamins and enzymes along with b12, b complex, CLO, calcium and probably a few other things. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> What are you doing for yeast protocol? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Has anyone else had issues with teeth and if so does anyone have any suggestions on how we can help stop the tooth damage? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> For my son, it was demineralization caused by improper absorption of minerals [calcium toxic, because the calcium was not absorbed, etc]. He required chelation and several supplements for proper calcium absorption. >>>> >>>> Dana >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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