Re: severe bacteria problems

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> OLE is causing too much pain. Major inflammation and antibiotics are not

working. ViraStop (PRX,SPS) is also causing pain. Using SuperCranactin with

phenol assist. Sensory issues worsening. Wetting accidents continue. B-6

causes hyper.

This sounds like the anti-bacterials are causing a massive yeast overgrowth

problem. Try using OoO, which will address both yeast and bad bacteria.

Dana

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I looked on your site, but what is OoO--please define..

Re: severe bacteria problems

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>> OLE is causing too much pain. Major inflammation and antibiotics are not

>> working. ViraStop (PRX,SPS) is also causing pain. Using SuperCranactin

>> with phenol assist. Sensory issues worsening. Wetting accidents

>> continue. B-6 causes hyper.

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> This sounds like the anti-bacterials are causing a massive yeast

> overgrowth problem. Try using OoO, which will address both yeast and bad

> bacteria.

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> Dana

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Dana, He is on diflucan. I thought the O of O was addressing the yeast but the

doctor wanted him on diflucan due to being on an antibiotic, so I stopped the O

of O. His yeast symptoms are gone. No more constipation, red ring or bumps on

his bottom. Bacteria is just really bad. Antibiotics took care of it in the

past but than we tried a few rounds of ALA - Andy's Protocal, and the bacteria

kicked up and we haven't been able to get it under control. I see the antibiotic

wearing off and wetting accidents returns. Since antibiotics histamines caused

by the bacteria aren't as bad. We started the antibiotic and diflucan at the

same time. Since starting this he is having two to three bm's a day. They are

not looking as good as before. They are more on the loose side. This infection

is serious and if you have any ideas I would greatly appreciate them. The

bacteria seems to be building up resistance to the antibiotics. We are using

Florajen3 probiotics. We trid Klaire's detox support but it was too much,

caused stomach pain for both of my kids.

For my daughter. Last week her throat started hurting and she started wetting at

night and now she is wetting during the day. We haven't seen day wetting for

two years. Pediatrics did a urinalysis and strep test that came back negative.

I increased OLE and PRX and her throat is no longer bothering her but she is

still having accidents. Now the increase in OLE and PRX are causing stomach

pain for her too. I think she has had low grade bacteria for a long time and it

just doesn't show up. Bacteria issues seem to be related to her eye-contact

which is her last remaining spectrum issue. Yeast has kicked up for her and

seems to have built up resistance to the o of o. I just switched her to

berberis last week and she is also on diflucan. Now rotating the O of O and

going back to the berberis seems to help some with the yeast. It will probably

take a little while to get her back to where she was before this recent bacteria

infection that she either picked up or go stirred up somehow. I am at a loss of

how to treat her bacteria. Mito issues have also kicked up.

melinda

> > OLE is causing too much pain. Major inflammation and antibiotics are not

working. ViraStop (PRX,SPS) is also causing pain. Using SuperCranactin with

phenol assist. Sensory issues worsening. Wetting accidents continue. B-6

causes hyper.

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>

> This sounds like the anti-bacterials are causing a massive yeast overgrowth

problem. Try using OoO, which will address both yeast and bad bacteria.

>

> Dana

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oil of oregano

> >> OLE is causing too much pain. Major inflammation and antibiotics are not

> >> working. ViraStop (PRX,SPS) is also causing pain. Using SuperCranactin

> >> with phenol assist. Sensory issues worsening. Wetting accidents

> >> continue. B-6 causes hyper.

> >

> >

> > This sounds like the anti-bacterials are causing a massive yeast

> > overgrowth problem. Try using OoO, which will address both yeast and bad

> > bacteria.

> >

> > Dana

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[Guest guest]

OKay, I am guessing it tastes terrible, We are desperately trying to get

my son to swallow capsules, but no dice. Any mixing suggestions..

Re: severe bacteria problems

> oil of oregano

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>> >> OLE is causing too much pain. Major inflammation and antibiotics are

>> >> not

>> >> working. ViraStop (PRX,SPS) is also causing pain. Using

>> >> SuperCranactin

>> >> with phenol assist. Sensory issues worsening. Wetting accidents

>> >> continue. B-6 causes hyper.

>> >

>> >

>> > This sounds like the anti-bacterials are causing a massive yeast

>> > overgrowth problem. Try using OoO, which will address both yeast and

>> > bad

>> > bacteria.

>> >

>> > Dana

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Vitamin C is a natural Immune system builder; Cloves are a natural antispetic;

and Garlic is a natural antibiotic; I'd do Probitoics w/ Vit. C; mix the

suppleents in a blender drink smoothie with fruit;

I contacted Dr. Sahelian and he says this is ok; " mix in banana smoothie; or any

fruit and juice;Anne

> >> >> OLE is causing too much pain. Major inflammation and antibiotics are

> >> >> not

> >> >> working. ViraStop (PRX,SPS) is also causing pain. Using

> >> >> SuperCranactin

> >> >> with phenol assist. Sensory issues worsening. Wetting accidents

> >> >> continue. B-6 causes hyper.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > This sounds like the anti-bacterials are causing a massive yeast

> >> > overgrowth problem. Try using OoO, which will address both yeast and

> >> > bad

> >> > bacteria.

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> >> > Dana

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You can get it in liquid and mix with juice. Some people mix supps with honey.

Kirkman labs sent me a great idea list.

www.kirkmanlabs.com

It's best to try to get them to swallow capsules. Start with tiny capsules and

work your way up.

Good Luck, Melinda

> >> >> OLE is causing too much pain. Major inflammation and antibiotics are

> >> >> not

> >> >> working. ViraStop (PRX,SPS) is also causing pain. Using

> >> >> SuperCranactin

> >> >> with phenol assist. Sensory issues worsening. Wetting accidents

> >> >> continue. B-6 causes hyper.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > This sounds like the anti-bacterials are causing a massive yeast

> >> > overgrowth problem. Try using OoO, which will address both yeast and

> >> > bad

> >> > bacteria.

> >> >

> >> > Dana

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Do you do a special diet? I'd get the kids onto one like SCD or GAPS to stop

feeding the pathogens, whatever they are. Diflucan sometimes gets some yeast

but not all- there are different kinds of yeast and sometimes different kinds

cause different symptoms. Your daughter can still have strep- did they do a

long culture or just the short one? I would do diet in addition to

antibacterials to get things. We did so many anti-pathogenic things, and it was

amazing how much more there was to die off once we got onto the GAPS diet.

-Sierra

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I have been moving toward the SCD. My son doesn't tolerate phenols. My daughter

has high oxalates and is gf/cf, egg, peanut and vanilla. What is GAPS? Melinda

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> Do you do a special diet? I'd get the kids onto one like SCD or GAPS to stop

feeding the pathogens, whatever they are. Diflucan sometimes gets some yeast

but not all- there are different kinds of yeast and sometimes different kinds

cause different symptoms. Your daughter can still have strep- did they do a

long culture or just the short one? I would do diet in addition to

antibacterials to get things. We did so many anti-pathogenic things, and it was

amazing how much more there was to die off once we got onto the GAPS diet.

>

> -Sierra

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[Guest guest]

I'm having a most difficult time administering OoO and GSE. Do each or both of

these break down with heat? I am wondering if I can bake them into things like

bite-size meatloaves or muffins?

Any other tips and tricks for getting these nasty things into

non-pill-swallowers? We currently use juice in syringe and it's a horrible

experience for both of us.

Thanks...

> > >> OLE is causing too much pain. Major inflammation and antibiotics are not

> > >> working. ViraStop (PRX,SPS) is also causing pain. Using SuperCranactin

> > >> with phenol assist. Sensory issues worsening. Wetting accidents

> > >> continue. B-6 causes hyper.

> > >

> > >

> > > This sounds like the anti-bacterials are causing a massive yeast

> > > overgrowth problem. Try using OoO, which will address both yeast and bad

> > > bacteria.

> > >

> > > Dana

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> Dana, He is on diflucan. I thought the O of O was addressing the yeast but

the doctor wanted him on diflucan due to being on an antibiotic, so I stopped

the O of O. His yeast symptoms are gone. No more constipation, red ring or

bumps on his bottom. Bacteria is just really bad. Antibiotics took care of it

in the past but than we tried a few rounds of ALA - Andy's Protocal, and the

bacteria kicked up and we haven't been able to get it under control.

ALA usually increases yeast. Are you sure it is bacteria? If you are not sure,

try adding back the OoO, which will address both bacteria and yeast.

>>this he is having two to three bm's a day. They are not looking as good as

before. They are more on the loose side.

Yeast is typically constipating, but for one of my kids it caused loose bms.

Bacteria typically causes diarrhea.

>>The bacteria seems to be building up resistance to the antibiotics.

I used OLE as antibiotic. OoO will also help.

>>We are using Florajen3 probiotics. We trid Klaire's detox support but it was

too much, caused stomach pain for both of my kids.

Can you reduce the dose? Maybe that would work.

> For my daughter. Last week her throat started hurting and she started wetting

at night and now she is wetting during the day.

This can mean yeast overgrowth, or bad bacteria.

>>We haven't seen day wetting for two years. Pediatrics did a urinalysis and

strep test that came back negative. I increased OLE and PRX and her throat is

no longer bothering her but she is still having accidents.

Try increasing the yeast protocol, maybe add OoO or biotin.

>>Yeast has kicked up for her and seems to have built up resistance to the o of

o.

Add biotin, see if that helps.

>>Mito issues have also kicked up.

What my son needed for mito issues is written here

http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm

Dana

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> I'm having a most difficult time administering OoO and GSE. Do each or both of

these break down with heat? I am wondering if I can bake them into things like

bite-size meatloaves or muffins?

I don't think you can bake them.

> Any other tips and tricks for getting these nasty things into

non-pill-swallowers? We currently use juice in syringe and it's a horrible

experience for both of us.

OoO will mix well into tomato juice. GSE into tomato, orange, lemon, or

grapefruit juices.

Here are some ideas to teach how to swallow capsules

http://www.danasview.net/capsules.htm

Dana

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You're in a similar boat as my family. I said for over a year that we couldn't

do SCD because we had too many other sensitivities, including histamine foods

(very similar list to phenols) and oxalates. We were also somewhat sensitive to

eggs and nuts. I did a rotation diet for several months (it worked even though

I never did it right, not one day of only eating the right things!). It turns

out that we have been able to work around all of these things and it is working

very well for us. Many of our food sensitivities are improving on the diet too,

so it keeps getting easier.

GAPS is a based on the SCD, but is more focused on people with neurological

symptoms and issues than SCD. It also focuses more on what foods you SHOULD

eat- which foods will heal your gut, now just which ones to avoid. No criticism

intended of SCD, Elaine Gottschall is one of my heroes. GAPS just sort of

" updates " the SCD a bit and is more of a protocol than just a special diet.

There are also some people who don't do as well on SCD and GAPS is sometimes

more helpful to those people. Pretty much everyone, when they first see the

GAPS intro diet freaks and says " there's no way my kid will eat this! " . It's

amazing how people make it work, and while it is very strict on one hand, people

also find ways to be flexible. For example, my kids don't eat soup or broth.

I will post some links aboout GAPS. Also, some friends and I who are all doing

it and hwo are " foodies " have a blog about what we eat and our favorite recipes,

which might give you more of a sense of the diet:

http://grainfreefoodie.blogspot.com/

Here are more:

http://www.gaps.me/

http://gapsdiet.com/

http://gapsguide.com/

GAPShelp/

HTH, feel free to ask me more questions about how we make it work. It is not

easy but it is really paying off.

-Sierra

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> > Do you do a special diet? I'd get the kids onto one like SCD or GAPS to

stop feeding the pathogens, whatever they are. Diflucan sometimes gets some

yeast but not all- there are different kinds of yeast and sometimes different

kinds cause different symptoms. Your daughter can still have strep- did they do

a long culture or just the short one? I would do diet in addition to

antibacterials to get things. We did so many anti-pathogenic things, and it was

amazing how much more there was to die off once we got onto the GAPS diet.

> >

> > -Sierra

> >

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[Guest guest]

Thank you...

I love statement #8, " This is second only to potty training in parental workload

relief. "

I agree! Mastering pill swallowing is such a big help.

We are working with a feeding clinic to overcome trouble swallowing food, before

we move to caps. Plus he is only 3, but I have earmarked this page. I am

grateful for your entire site...

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> > I'm having a most difficult time administering OoO and GSE. Do each or both

of these break down with heat? I am wondering if I can bake them into things

like bite-size meatloaves or muffins?

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> I don't think you can bake them.

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> > Any other tips and tricks for getting these nasty things into

non-pill-swallowers? We currently use juice in syringe and it's a horrible

experience for both of us.

>

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> OoO will mix well into tomato juice. GSE into tomato, orange, lemon, or

grapefruit juices.

>

> Here are some ideas to teach how to swallow capsules

>

> http://www.danasview.net/capsules.htm

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> Dana

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