Guest guest Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 > > I need some information please. It was suggested that I begin using ALA for my son to help with the focus that he needs. For focus, my son needed B vitamins, fish oil, and anti-virals. >>I have purchased some ALA from my chiropractor now and he tells me that Collin only needs to take one 100 mg pill every other day. I would like very much to follow his directions but I keep reading here that everyone on this site uses it every 3 hours or less to keep from redistributing the metals. If I'm using it with an oral chelater is that okay? Will that insure that the metals won't redistribute? What should I do? First, check to see that it is alpha lipoic acid, not alpha linoleic acid. You can use alpha linoleic acid on the schedule that was given to you. If you want to use alpha lipoic acid, definitely read more information about dosing, schedules, etc. I did not use the dosing and schedules recommended here, but I did not give 100mg every other day. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 My (limited) memory tells me that Andy says to take more Mg more frequently with headaches - like Mg with every dose. What form, quantity, how frequently, are you taking it now? Some people seem to really lose Mg readily. In Amalgam Illness (p 98) he says that supplementary taurine may correct the cause of the Mg deficiency. Also, that potassium deficiency often goes along with Mg deficiency. To test K deficiency, try some salt substitute (KCL). If it tastes good then extra will be good. If it tastes bad your body doesn't want it. J > > I posted on adult site but it can take a day or two to get any replies. > > I just started round 9 today for myself. dmsa 12.5mg and ala 5mg. > > I had tried dmsa/ala once before maybe on round 5. I had such terrible > headaches no matter how low I took the ala dose that I stopped it all > together. > > This time, I am still having headaches with the 5mg ala. I did a round > of dmsa last weekend with no probs. Am taking it every three hours, > supplements and such I am supposed too. > > What possiblities are there for this? > Could it still be too soon? I am not sure I can take three days of a > headache.... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 > > Interestingly, after about 3 months, it was a bad bacteria headache. > I eliminated the yeast killers [including probiotics] and the headache > was gone. So if you have a good yeast protocol, it might be this. > > Dana - how could you tell a yeast headache from a bacterial headache? Does it feel different or are there other symptoms that would go along with one or the other? Sheresa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 The rounds I have done with 5 mg ALA I just get more and more fatigued with time. Not sure if it's the ALA or the sleep deprivation or both. I don't like to think of myself as 'toxic', rather'd be considered 'sensitive'. When I make up my capsules I have been filling the DMPS ones with ascorbic acid powder and the ALA ones with Mg citrate powder. That way I get both with every dose without having to think about it. Maybe you don't need so much potassium? I think low aldosterone would lead to highish potassium and lowish Na. Do you find that taking extra salt (Na) helps? J > > Thanks , that would be me. Mag deficient and potassium > deficient. I cannot take additional potassium due to a contradiction > with a muscle disorder..lets' just say it makes me twitch and in a > lot of pain. Grrrr... > I did stop the ala yesterday as I had no idea what else to do. I am > finishing the round out with dmsa alone. I was able to find an > archive saying someone remembered Andy saying that people who cannot > tolerate any ala are essentialy very toxic. (who knows) > > Taurine...next on my list! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Salt doesn't do much for me either way. I did not notice a difference, and personally don't care for the taste of it. I do add a bit to my food as per all I have read to help with iodine/potass, but I really cannot take enought to make much of a difference. I take 500mg of C with each dose of chelator, I also take B-1 cause of my high cadmium with each dose, and all the other minerals/ etc. on the list. The low mag makes sense though. I don't think I am taking enough of it, not that I think about it. It is lost cause for me with potassium or iodine, with the muscle thingy going on. So maybe as time goes on and I get some metals out, my body can begin to rebalance that somewhat. I spend my x-mas money on Hair test book from Andy, so I have to wait for another holiday to purchase the Amalgam one...lol. Since my potassium is low, I don't think I have too much aldosterone. Taking adrenal support to correct that too. Maybe I just have to wait to use ala until I have more rounds under my belt. Since dmsa causes me few issues. > > > > Thanks , that would be me. Mag deficient and potassium > > deficient. I cannot take additional potassium due to a contradiction > > with a muscle disorder..lets' just say it makes me twitch and in a > > lot of pain. Grrrr... > > I did stop the ala yesterday as I had no idea what else to do. I am > > finishing the round out with dmsa alone. I was able to find an > > archive saying someone remembered Andy saying that people who cannot > > tolerate any ala are essentialy very toxic. (who knows) > > > > Taurine...next on my list! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 I have seen this happen as well. This type of headache is way different than any yeast or viral ones I have had. Stops as soon as you stop the ala and its a different type of pain. So bad you can't think and you'll do anything to get rid of it, and it makes you feel foggy..like the fillings I back in again. So I has that Hg feel lets say. But I did have that problem you speak of last month with my GSE protocol, started getting viral/bacterial headaches and stopped using my viral protocol(OLE) and GSE, to stop the headaches. Those type felt different though and came with swollen neck glands. But yes...yeast protocol can do that too. > > I had tried dmsa/ala once before maybe on round 5. I had such terrible > > headaches no matter how low I took the ala dose that I stopped it all > > together. > > > > This time, I am still having headaches with the 5mg ala. I did a round > > of dmsa last weekend with no probs. Am taking it every three hours, > > supplements and such I am supposed too. > > > > What possiblities are there for this? > > Could it still be too soon? I am not sure I can take three days of a > > headache.... > > > This was a yeast headache for me. Try increasing your yeast protocol, > see if that helps. > > Interestingly, after about 3 months, it was a bad bacteria headache. > I eliminated the yeast killers [including probiotics] and the headache > was gone. So if you have a good yeast protocol, it might be this. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Comments interspersed. S S <p>Hi All,<br> <br> Yet Another ALA question . I tried to look at archives but could not <br> find the right answer to this. <br> I have been chelating my son with DMSA for about 16 rounds now (6 <br> with Andy protocol and before on suppositories)<wbr>. He has been pulling <br> lots of lead all along and he keeps improving steadily . I <br> understand that a lot of you add ALA at this stage or even before <br> this . My DAN doctor is very open-minded about Andy's protocol but he <br> is very concerned about adding ALA since he feels mercury could go <br> into his brain from the body. <br> *That's why it is so important to use Andy's protocol. <br> My son hasnt started to pull mercury at all and so the body burden <br> could be quite high. He has not had a exposure in the form of <br> amalgams or anything though. *But from your amalgams via in utero and breastfeeding? And vaccines? ALA is the only way to get mercury out of the brain. Does ALA work both ways (Push mercury <br> in and out of brain). If so what is the rational behind using it <br> now ? Is there any doc on how ALA exactly works ? Is it explained in <br> Andy's book. <br> <br> I am sure if so many of you have done this before, its for a good <br> reason and after thinking this through If someone could enlighten <br> me please ..<br> <br> Thanks,<br> Kavitha <br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Unless you are willing to give ALA every 3-4 hours around the clock on those off days, it is not wise to continue using ALA. Even IF you are going to follow that 3 hour schedule, Mickie's body needs a break. Instead, take a look at how you are chelating. How much DMSA and how often? Mickie might do better at a lower dose. If you are using DMSA every 8 hours then definitely go down to 4 hours. If you are using ALA every 4 hours with the DMSA, try using both every 3 hours. There are some options. Some people do better on the 'on' days. It is not rare. But, it isn't wise to chelate indefinitely without breaks. Good luck. Pam > > I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep Mickie on ALA on > his days off DMSA, just in case there is mercury in the blood that > used to be hiding in the cells before Chelation started. > He is just having such a hard time on this off days. > > Please advice, > > Zurama > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Okay, I can see what you mean......Thank you Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Well lets see.........I chelate him from friday to Sunday and then four days off. I've been doing this for about a month and a half. I can see tiny improvements already. I only chelate during the day four to five times which is how many meals he has a day, because he has malabsorption and is the only way to keep his weight from going down fast. I give him 50mg DMSA and 50mg ALA, four to five time a day, during the day. He sleeps fine and when he doesn't I give him melatonin. Zurama On Oct 30, 2007 5:20 AM, Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > No. You need to give his body a break between rounds. What doses and dosing > schedule are you using? > S S > > ALA question > Posted by: " Zurama " autismtookmickie@... artdezurama > Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:47 pm (PST) > > I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep Mickie on ALA on > his days off DMSA, just in case there is mercury in the blood that > used to be hiding in the cells before Chelation started. > He is just having such a hard time on this off days. > > Please advice, > > Zurama > > > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 You might try lowering the dose a lot (how old is he and how much does he weigh?) and giving it every 4 hours, round the clock, like Andy suggests. It would make things safer, and I bet it would make things much more tolerable for him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No. You need to give his body a break between rounds. What doses and dosing > > schedule are you using? > > S S > > > > ALA question > > Posted by: " Zurama " autismtookmickie@... artdezurama > > Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:47 pm (PST) > > > > I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep Mickie on ALA on > > his days off DMSA, just in case there is mercury in the blood that > > used to be hiding in the cells before Chelation started. > > He is just having such a hard time on this off days. > > > > Please advice, > > > > Zurama > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 I did round the clock back in 2002 and it took it's told on me. I got so sick I almost died. i kept going to the doctor and he didn't know what was wrong with me. I don't know if I could do that again. He seems to be improving and he has gain weight in the last month. His cheeks are pink and he has this glow that I had not seen in years. He is 10 and weight about 60 pounds. Zurama On Oct 30, 2007 11:18 AM, anneecbrynn <anneecbrynn@...> wrote: > > > > > > > You might try lowering the dose a lot (how old is he and how much > does he weigh?) and giving it every 4 hours, round the clock, like > Andy suggests. It would make things safer, and I bet it would make > things much more tolerable for him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No. You need to give his body a break between rounds. What > doses and dosing > > > schedule are you using? > > > S S > > > > > > ALA question > > > Posted by: " Zurama " autismtookmickie@... artdezurama > > > > > Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:47 pm (PST) > > > > > > I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep Mickie on > ALA on > > > his days off DMSA, just in case there is mercury in the blood > that > > > used to be hiding in the cells before Chelation started. > > > He is just having such a hard time on this off days. > > > > > > Please advice, > > > > > > Zurama > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > > > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Zurama, I'm sorry you had such a difficult time with the 'around the clock' schedule. I know what it is like to wake up 2 times a night to give DMSA. It wears you down regardless of any progress. I actually am just finishing a 3 month break from chelating because I was just so TIRED. It is not a good idea to give a chelator every 4 hours during the day and then skip the entire night. Blood levels of DMSA/ALA will peak and fall and peak and fall which encourages redistribution of heavy metals (often this is what makes us feel ill). How many hours does he go at night without a dose of DMSA? The only way you would know if he does better with around the clock chelation is to try it, unfortunately. That will have to be your own personal decision. If he does seem better, perhaps you could chelate every other weekend to give yourself more of a rest. For now, I would suggest lowering the dose by half for both DMSA and ALA the next round to see if Mickie does better during the week (25 mgs DMSA/25 mgs ALA). My son is about 50 lbs and I give him less than 20 mgs DMSA each dose. I give him about 20 mgs ALA, too. Some people just can't handle the higher doses. If you take a look at http://www.danasview.net, danatty (a member here) chelated her children every 8 hours with ALA. She says her children no longer are on the spectrum. I'll warn you ahead of time that Dana put more effort and research in to healing her children than the average mom... so maybe that is why they were able to tolerate the 8 hour ALA schedule. Her site is full of all she did to accomplish her goals. Personally, I cannot take ALA unless I take it every 3.5 hours. I get a huge headache if I wait any longer. I take 1/2 of what you give Mickie. Like I said earlier, there are options for you to experiment with. Question: how did Mickie do in 2002 with the around the clock dosing? I know you didn't do that well (got so sick), but did Mickie do better that time? I guess you didn't say how much you were giving him at that time or if you even used DMSA/ALA. Take care, Pam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No. You need to give his body a break between rounds. What > > doses and dosing > > > > schedule are you using? > > > > S S > > > > > > > > ALA question > > > > Posted by: " Zurama " autismtookmickie@ artdezurama > > > > > > > > Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:47 pm (PST) > > > > > > > > I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep Mickie on > > ALA on > > > > his days off DMSA, just in case there is mercury in the blood > > that > > > > used to be hiding in the cells before Chelation started. > > > > He is just having such a hard time on this off days. > > > > > > > > Please advice, > > > > > > > > Zurama > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > > > > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 He goes 8 hours with out DMSA and ALA at night. He is 10 years old now. I 2002, I Chelated without dealing with the gut simptoms and he was not yet on the CFGF diet so even though he got better as far as the eye contact and his social skills his gut really suffered and after four months I stopped the Chelation and didn't try again for another two years. He was on a very low dose then and he did do better round the clock, but he had horrible panic attacks in the middle of the night either way-probably because of the malabsorption that I was yet to be aware off. In 2003 as I learned more, I put him on enzymes, the CFGF diet, fatty acids, pro-biotics, super-nuthera, and multi-minerals. lately I started feeding less amounts but four to fine meals a day and he has now weighed weihgt and his coloring is good. The only thing I haven't been able to do is completely take off sugar from his diet. Every time I try he deteriorates to the point where you can see death on his face. I will never try that again. This may be because no two kids are alike and what work for one may not work for others. Zurama On Oct 30, 2007 1:12 PM, noaholiviaian <phaselow@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Zurama, > > I'm sorry you had such a difficult time with the 'around the clock' > schedule. I know what it is like to wake up 2 times a night to give > DMSA. It wears you down regardless of any progress. I actually am > just finishing a 3 month break from chelating because I was just so > TIRED. > > It is not a good idea to give a chelator every 4 hours during the day > and then skip the entire night. Blood levels of DMSA/ALA will peak > and fall and peak and fall which encourages redistribution of heavy > metals (often this is what makes us feel ill). How many hours does > he go at night without a dose of DMSA? > > The only way you would know if he does better with around the clock > chelation is to try it, unfortunately. That will have to be your own > personal decision. If he does seem better, perhaps you could chelate > every other weekend to give yourself more of a rest. > > For now, I would suggest lowering the dose by half for both DMSA and > ALA the next round to see if Mickie does better during the week (25 > mgs DMSA/25 mgs ALA). My son is about 50 lbs and I give him less > than 20 mgs DMSA each dose. I give him about 20 mgs ALA, too. Some > people just can't handle the higher doses. > > If you take a look at http://www.danasview.net, danatty (a member > here) chelated her children every 8 hours with ALA. She says her > children no longer are on the spectrum. I'll warn you ahead of time > that Dana put more effort and research in to healing her children > than the average mom... so maybe that is why they were able to > tolerate the 8 hour ALA schedule. Her site is full of all she did to > accomplish her goals. > > Personally, I cannot take ALA unless I take it every 3.5 hours. I > get a huge headache if I wait any longer. I take 1/2 of what you > give Mickie. > > Like I said earlier, there are options for you to experiment with. > > Question: how did Mickie do in 2002 with the around the clock > dosing? I know you didn't do that well (got so sick), but did Mickie > do better that time? I guess you didn't say how much you were giving > him at that time or if you even used DMSA/ALA. > > Take care, > > Pam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No. You need to give his body a break between rounds. What > > > doses and dosing > > > > > schedule are you using? > > > > > S S > > > > > > > > > > ALA question > > > > > Posted by: " Zurama " autismtookmickie@ artdezurama > > > > > > > > > > > Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:47 pm (PST) > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep Mickie on > > > ALA on > > > > > his days off DMSA, just in case there is mercury in the blood > > > that > > > > > used to be hiding in the cells before Chelation started. > > > > > He is just having such a hard time on this off days. > > > > > > > > > > Please advice, > > > > > > > > > > Zurama > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > > > > > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 > I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep Mickie on ALA on > his days off DMSA, just in case there is mercury in the blood that > used to be hiding in the cells before Chelation started. > He is just having such a hard time on this off days. My son had a hard time on his " off " days because he was mineral toxic, and the ALA was pulling minerals. Try stopping the minerals on the " off " days, see if you notice any change. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Comments interspersed. S S Re: ALA question Posted by: " Zurama " autismtookmickie@... artdezurama Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:34 am (PST) Well lets see.........I chelate him from friday to Sunday and then four days off. I've been doing this for about a month and a half. I can see tiny improvements already. I only chelate during the day four to five times *That's a problem because each night all the mercury you've stirred up during the day settles into his brain. which is how many meals he has a day, because he has malabsorption and is the only way to keep his weight from going down fast. I give him 50mg DMSA and 50mg ALA, four to five time a day, during the day. *How much does he weigh? He sleeps fine and when he doesn't I give him melatonin. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 What does comments interspersed mean? Zurama On Oct 31, 2007 3:33 AM, Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Comments interspersed. > S S > > Re: ALA question > Posted by: " Zurama " autismtookmickie@... artdezurama > Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:34 am (PST) > > Well lets see.........I chelate him from friday to Sunday and then > four days off. I've been doing this for about a month and a half. I > can see tiny improvements already. > > I only chelate during the day four to five times > > *That's a problem because each night all the mercury you've stirred up > during the day settles into his brain. > > which is how many > meals he has a day, because he has malabsorption and is the only way > to keep his weight from going down fast. I give him 50mg DMSA and 50mg > ALA, four to five time a day, during the day. > > *How much does he weigh? > > He sleeps fine and when > he doesn't I give him melatonin. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 It means that I left what you wrote and put my responses after the comments they correspond to, rather than just posting my whole message at the top like I did on this one. Hair is not a good indicator for iron, that requires a blood test. S S Re: ALA question Posted by: " Zurama " autismtookmickie@... artdezurama Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:55 pm (PST) What does comments interspersed mean? Zurama _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 For anyone using ALA - where do you buy it? I saw some at health food store (NOW brand) but it was 100mg, and I see Kirkman's has it in 25 mg size which I think is the amount Dana used on her kids during her ALA protocol (3 days on 4 days off). Also, when using ALA can you also do the high dose Vit. A (10,000 IU per day)? We already use probiotic, GSE, OLE and seem to have that mix worked out. Just started using Vit. A at 10,000 IU per day, and now checking into ALA. Also GF/CF for 5 mos. Thanks for advice, CC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Hi we just started ALA chelation with my 22/m son. I believe the starting dose for ALA is 1/8 to 1/4 mg per pound. It is also good to have minerals in place if your child can tolerate then as ALA does chelate essential minerals also. We are using Kirkmans 25 mg. But I divide it up and put it into v-caps for proper dose. I asked Dana the same question about viral and she said best to wait see how chelation goes for a while so as to know if he reacts you know what to and also yeast is a common issue for chelation so I put my son on biotin and probiotics before and am going to add oil of oregano. Dana can explain better than I but thought I would give best answer I could ALA question For anyone using ALA - where do you buy it? I saw some at health food store (NOW brand) but it was 100mg, and I see Kirkman's has it in 25 mg size which I think is the amount Dana used on her kids during her ALA protocol (3 days on 4 days off). Also, when using ALA can you also do the high dose Vit. A (10,000 IU per day)? We already use probiotic, GSE, OLE and seem to have that mix worked out. Just started using Vit. A at 10,000 IU per day, and now checking into ALA. Also GF/CF for 5 mos. Thanks for advice, CC ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 How long do you do the chelation? 3 days on, 4 days off for how long? Does Dana or anyone else have they're protocol written anywhere? I'm wondering if enzymes and No Fenol can be taken...also Vitamin A. I might do this too. Thanks > > Hi we just started ALA chelation with my 22/m son. I believe the starting dose for ALA is 1/8 to 1/4 mg per pound. It is also good to have minerals in place if your child can tolerate then as ALA does chelate essential minerals also. We are using Kirkmans 25 mg. But I divide it up and put it into v-caps for proper dose. I asked Dana the same question about viral and she said best to wait see how chelation goes for a while so as to know if he reacts you know what to and also yeast is a common issue for chelation so I put my son on biotin and probiotics before and am going to add oil of oregano. Dana can explain better than I but thought I would give best answer I could > > > > ALA question > > For anyone using ALA - where do you buy it? I saw some at health food > store (NOW brand) but it was 100mg, and I see Kirkman's has it in 25 > mg size which I think is the amount Dana used on her kids during her > ALA protocol (3 days on 4 days off). > > Also, when using ALA can you also do the high dose Vit. A (10,000 IU > per day)? We already use probiotic, GSE, OLE and seem to have that > mix worked out. Just started using Vit. A at 10,000 IU per day, and > now checking into ALA. Also GF/CF for 5 mos. > > Thanks for advice, > CC > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Hi. Yes actually enzymes are good while chelating. probiotics also. My son is on cod liver oil, efa's from flax seed oil, selenium, biotin ( for yeast ) vitamin c, vitamin e, calcium, mag, moly, zinc milk thistle ( for liver) and low dose b's plus no fenol and afp peptizydes. There is tons of info on the autism treatment group / and here is Danas great websight http://www.danasview.net/myson.htm ALA question > > For anyone using ALA - where do you buy it? I saw some at health food > store (NOW brand) but it was 100mg, and I see Kirkman's has it in 25 > mg size which I think is the amount Dana used on her kids during her > ALA protocol (3 days on 4 days off). > > Also, when using ALA can you also do the high dose Vit. A (10,000 IU > per day)? We already use probiotic, GSE, OLE and seem to have that > mix worked out. Just started using Vit. A at 10,000 IU per day, and > now checking into ALA. Also GF/CF for 5 mos. > > Thanks for advice, > CC > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ ____________ __ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Search. http://tools. search.. com/newsearch/ category. php?category= shopping > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 > > For anyone using ALA - where do you buy it? I buy mine at my local health food store, and Kirkman. >>I saw some at health food > store (NOW brand) but it was 100mg, I used Natural Factors brand from my health food store. It was 100mg but I divided the capsules into four parts. > Also, when using ALA can you also do the high dose Vit. A (10,000 IU > per day)? High dose vitamin A protocol is 400,000 IU per day for two days. http://www.danasview.net/vitamina.htm If I was doing this protocol while chelating, I would do it on two of the " off " days. We already use probiotic, GSE, OLE and seem to have that > mix worked out. Just started using Vit. A at 10,000 IU per day, and > now checking into ALA. Also GF/CF for 5 mos. Giving 10,000 IU per day of vitamin A is okay for most kids. Just watch for toxicity symptoms, which are included on my page linked above. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 > > How long do you do the chelation? 3 days on, 4 days off for how long? My kids needed approx 100 rounds, over 2-1/4 years. > Does Dana or anyone else have they're protocol written anywhere? Here is a site including one protocol http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/ I used ALA 3x per day. I'm > wondering if enzymes and No Fenol can be taken...also Vitamin A. Yes Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 In my opinion, it doesn't have to be exactly 3 or 3.5 or 4 hours each time. I would think any time before 11 am would work just fine. Then, between 3-4 hours from then on after that. If you do give the dose at 11 am then the next one should be 3-4 hours later. If you give it at 10:30 am then the next dose should be 3-4 hours later. And so on. Enjoy! Pam > > I gave a dose at 11pm last night and then at: > > 3am.....7am.....and then i was going to give one at 10am but she is still sleeping. So i figured that I can just wait another 4 hours like i did on the night time doses. my question is, if she wakes up at 10:30, can i give it then? that would be 3-1/2 hours. and then would my next dose be 3 hours after that? that would be 1:30? haven't done this in 6 months. thanks! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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